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METALLICA's New Single 'Sounds Like Mud'; Experts Don't Believe Technical Error Is To Blame
- Aug. 27, 2008
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Asbjørn Slettemark of the Norwegian music industry magazine Faro Journalen reports that METALLICA's record label, Universal Music Norway, has confirmed that it has received several complaints over the sound quality of the new METALLICA single "The Day That Never Comes", which was released via the iTunes store late last week. "There will be a new version of the song on iTunes in a short while," Eivind Slotsvik, senior product manager at Universal Music Norway, told Faro Journalen. Slotsvik claims, however, that the "The Day That Never Comes" audio file that was serviced to Norwegian radio and press is not distorted like the track that was being sold via iTunes. "What we know is that there is something wrong with the version sent to iTunes," he said. "The version we have received does not contain similar errors." Faro Journalen downloaded one of the versions Universal Music released to the press via its digital promotional database. The magazine then sent the file to Lasse Svendsen, editor of Norway's hi-fi magazine Lyd & Bilde (Sound & Vision). Svendsen was shocked by what he heard. "Oh my God, this is unfortunately a classic example of how bad things get when studio technicians and musicians gets to play with expensive compressors and limiters," he said. "The file is a 313 kbps AAC sound file, which isn't necessarily that bad, but someone has chosen to maximize the volume with a compressor, so much so that the whole sound file just sounds like mud. The cymbals sound like broken glass, the drums like trees cracking, and the guitars — which are mixed equally loudly — sound like someone shoved a screwdriver into my ears." Kjartan Overby is responsible for the music archives at the Norwegian national radio station at NRK. "The Day That Never Comes" was one of this week's most played tracks on NRK's youth channel P3, and Overby told Faro Journalen he reacted immediately to the sound level on the song. "I have never heard anything like this on songs we have added to the archive. It is probably not a technical error. The file was like that when we received it from Universal Music," he said. Lyd & Bilde editor Svendsen has low expectations for the "Death Magnetic" full-length album, which is scheduled to hit stores worldwide on September 12. "We can only hope that the CD won't sound this bad, but I don't have high hopes that this will happen," he said. A representative for METALLICA's Mission: Metallica web site — the online experience related to the group's forthcoming album, "Death Magnetic" — sent out an e-mail message to the site's registered members last week claiming that the sound quality problems on "The Day That Never Comes" were related to "the creation of the track from master," before reassuring fans that "this is not how it will sound on the album." He then added, "We've identified the source of the problem to prevent it in any subsequent singles released in advance of September 12." Although the band itself has not yet addressed the issue directly, it is believed that the source of the problem lies in the actual mix and not the mastering. With only three weeks left before "Death Magnetic"'s scheduled release, it is highly unlikely that any changes will be made to the album's final mix, a scenario which is almost certain to disappoint may of METALLICA's most loyal fans who have been voicing their displeasure over the new single's production on the band's official message board. "The Day That Never Comes" audio (entire song): "My Apocalypse" audio (entire song):
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COMMENT | Funny...
posted by : CaughtInMoshActually 8/27/2008 4:20:58 PM
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I was banned from the official Metallica message board because of this controversy. And I was right:
Although the band itself has not yet addressed the issue directly, it is believed that the source of the problem lies in the actual mix and not the mastering.
Those idiots on the Metallica board thought it was intentional in order to prevent pirating. Delusional idiots.
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COMMENT | Huh.
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:23:41 PM
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Everyone's an expert...
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COMMENT | BULLSHIT....
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:24:57 PM
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Why wont the band respond?? This is pathetic.....A band with that much money and experience would put out something that sounds worse than St. Anger....These songs were fucking great and its a damn shame that they RUIN them with Rubins so-called "in your face" mixing....good job Metallica...way to put the final nail in your coffin...I have supported you through all of the loads, s&m and st. anger, but this is going too far....releasing TERRIBLE sounding songs and charging us fans for a piece of shit....we were fucked, by you metallica, when we joined mission metallica and pre-ordered the album only for them to say no refund....FUCK YOU
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COMMENT | I'm glad
posted by : CaughtInMoshActually 8/27/2008 4:26:08 PM
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I didn't fork over money for that coffin box set. Those fans are getting hosed paying $130 for an album that sounds like this. Hopefully I'm wrong and the album itself sounds better, but its Metallica.
General rule of thumb with Metallica nowadays: if anything can possibly go wrong, it will.
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COMMENT | To bmetal76
posted by : CaughtInMoshActually 8/27/2008 4:27:21 PM
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I agree with you man. Hey at least you weren't banned from the Metallica board for voicing your opinion. Its bullshit!
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COMMENT | lol
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:29:26 PM
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when was the last time they put out a good mixed cd? Garage Days maybe??
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COMMENT | YEAH-......
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 4:31:27 PM
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ITS SOUNDS LIKE A PILE OF MUD COMING OUT OF LARS DUMB ASS!!!
READ IT AND WEEP-METALLIPANZIES lol
THE MEMORY REMAINS!!!!!
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COMMENT | lol LOL lol LOL lol LOL lol LOL lol LOL lol LOL
posted by : chocolate covered testicles 8/27/2008 4:32:27 PM
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wow, isnt it funny that when it sounds good and gets good reviews Metallica is deemed the gods of metal, and omg such amazing talent. Although when it sounds shitty and eveyone hates it, its definately gotta be a sound mixing error, theres no way that the band could simply just suck, cause they spend all their time and money in hollywood at movie premiers. Seriously hilarious. Im not gonna flame all around and say METALLICA SUCK ASS!!!! cause they do and everyone alreadys knows that. Just found it kind of ironic and disgusting how much the media and "true fans" suck this bands corporate money cock. James, Kirk, Lar$, and Robert......seriously hang the shit up, you are making fools of yourself.. Or start writing from the soul again.
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COMMENT | CaughtInMoshActually
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:34:54 PM
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i have been banned before, but not yet about this subject....i just think they are pathetic for ripping off the fans with this shit
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COMMENT | lord God
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:36:17 PM
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Do any of you idiots pay attention? It will sound fucking fine by the time it actually is relaeased, and the mix on My Apocolypse was WAY better. This has nothing to do with Rubin. Besides, the Norwegians did get a good copy of the song. I just hope that if there is a better version, I get my .99 cents back.
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COMMENT | bmetal76
posted by : CaughtInMoshActually 8/27/2008 4:37:33 PM
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I agree it is pathetic. But they don't know any better because they pretty much walk on water and anything they do, everybody surrounding them will tell them is great. Especially all the nuthugger fans on the message boards.
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COMMENT | AND NOW.....
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 4:41:10 PM
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THE SAD TRUTH FINALLY COMES TO THE SURFACE........ALL THE LITTLE METALLIBITCHES WERE SAYING HOW- THEIR BACK, THEIR BACK!!!
YEAH, RIGHT- ANOTHER MONEY GRAB ATTEMPT BY THE POP ROCKERS!!.........AND ALL THE LITTLE BABIES FELL FOR IT AGAIN!!
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COMMENT | so
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:42:27 PM
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Yes the sound quality is not impressive, but this flaw is small in comparison to the fact that the song is WEAK !!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : choko001 8/27/2008 4:46:02 PM
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i prefer shitty sound quality makes it sound more raw
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COMMENT | .
posted by : Blackenistheyend 8/27/2008 4:47:22 PM
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Hey, how about we all wait to actually hear the CD before bitching?
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COMMENT | so they went from...
posted by : Night_Prowler 8/27/2008 4:48:26 PM
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metallica... to alternica... to shitallica... to mudallica?
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COMMENT | 111222
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:49:25 PM
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Don't worry I'll give you the daily attention you seek. I like how you switch to CAPS when you don't get a reply. and now my 111222 observation of the day: Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of the ideas.
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COMMENT | It's really to bad
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:50:47 PM
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Your dad didn't just shoot you into a kleenex.
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COMMENT | loudness wars anyone?
posted by : sunburntkamel 8/27/2008 4:52:58 PM
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I'll wait for a DVD version of the album.
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COMMENT | Missing Amp
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:53:53 PM
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Maybe James is having post delayed regression from when his Marshall amp was stolen out of the back of a truck in Boston 20 years ago.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:54:49 PM
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come on guys! i sent you the new!!! give me some credite dude!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Just for the record....
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 4:55:19 PM
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I am also peternorthsload, but this album sounds like peter north shot his load on this LOAD OF MUSICAL MEDIOCRITY!!! lol
EVILE>>>>>>>>THESE HAS BEENS!! lol DESTRUCTION>>>>>>THIS TRAIN WRECK!!lol
SOMETIMES THE TRUTH HURTS WIMPS!!! haha ha ha!
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COMMENT | DUMB ASSES
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:55:42 PM
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RICK RUBIN did not mix nor did he record the new album... engineers did... in fact RICK RUBIN probably spent only a couple hours on the whole project. That dumb ass used to be one of the world's best producers just listen to classic Slayer and Danzig albums... hell he even did good work for many other bands as well but it seems since being promoted to this new position in Sony or whatever that he doesnt care to have anything more than his name on something. There is not a single "in the studio" clip with Rick Rubin on it... why? because he didn't do anything and its a shame. Instead the lazy Metallica boys got so used to Pro Tools fixing all of their problems that they dont even try in the studio as much anymore. I don't know how many videos of them replacing Lar's drum parts with better clips or changing the time or placement of his snare and such you have to see to not understand that. How do you make a legit album when you are having some Pro Tools guy cut and paste your snare hits around where you want them instead of playing them. I bet lars didnt even record the drums for this album he probably just used Pro Tools and some drum software and programmed all of his drums for this entire CD. These guys are brainwashed by the "digital age" and its sad. Other than St. Anger all of Bob Rock's production was good but this production is pure shit so far and there is no denying it. Where is Rob's bass?
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COMMENT | Jeez more MEtallica news....
posted by : PlagueBringer 8/27/2008 4:56:56 PM
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WTF, do they own BM now?
This album is going to suck and all this technical BS reeks of promotional crap done to keep it on all the news feeds.At the professional level, QC should be a given and a song got on almighty Itunes without being checked...is questionable or some heads need to roll.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:57:02 PM
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Shitty sound and raw sound are 2 different things.
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COMMENT | the 2nd single should have been named
posted by : 8/27/2008 4:59:53 PM
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my suck-o-calypse
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:00:54 PM
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I think the songs are great, i like My Apocalypse and The Day That Never Comes. I also think the drums are not well recorded, but as far as music talent and vocals, i think they are great, im not a huge Metallica fan, but i have heard all their albums, and i think that this one can be a BIG change from St. Anger, i like some St. Anger, personally i dont think is that bad either, is just different. And the new songs they've released are really good, just bad production.
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COMMENT | stupid fucked up hot master
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:01:28 PM
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a potentially great 'tallica record totally messed up by being mastered too hot.....so close...yet so far!! it sounds terrible there are no words to describe....yeah....mud is quite a good one
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COMMENT | LARS......
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 5:01:50 PM
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PROBABLY DID'NT ACTUALLY PLAY THE DRUMS ON AJFA EITHER!! THEY JUST PRO TOOLED EVERYTHING THEN TOO!!!LOL
THERES NO WAY LARS COULD PLAY THAT GOOD!!
I KNEW IT, I FUCKING KNEW IT!
METALLICA==== FABRICATED MUSIC!! lol
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COMMENT | Imperium74
posted by : cyrus ghahremani 8/27/2008 5:02:17 PM
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for the record-
the differences between compressed and lossy are subtle and really noticeable by trained ears only. the type of compression you are addressing - like AAC and MP3 - is NOT the same type of compression we are complaining about (this being, putting a hard limiter on the final mix that was likely too loud to begin with).
if metallica's people are reading this, please consider and experiment with this:
- set 1k to -6db - set 3k to -4db - set 6k to -1db - set 12k to +3db - set 14k to +4db and boost lows as necessary to your studio monitors.
but if you really are going all the way back to the MIX to make adjustments, please consider that the snare should not be louder than james' vocals, the kick could use some lows, the bass could use some highs. the mid-cut that the guitars usually have, can be ignored if you plan on lowering the mids in the mastering process, as suggested.
it may not be what sold "stadium arcadium", but it IS what sold "and justice for all" and the black album. and i may just be a guy on the internet, but if we think it sounds better this way, and you decide it sounds better that way, why not?
cheers.
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COMMENT |
posted by : cosmos666 8/27/2008 5:04:06 PM
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Come on you guys, we've seen Metallica spend plenty of time in the studio, does anyone here actually believe that they haven't listened to their own master? If we have to start believing what some sort of Norwegian viking has to say about AAC-files (do they actually sell Apples in Norway anyway??), where is the world going to? That's like believing George Bush has a brain!
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COMMENT | Mud heh heh
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:09:50 PM
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METALLICA's New Single 'Sounds Like shit; Experts Don't Believe Technical Error Is To Blame
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COMMENT | You guys are dumb.
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:10:06 PM
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St. Anger notwithstanding, "it is believed that the source of the problem lies in the actual mix and not the mastering" by people who know nothing about mastering. If "someone has chosen to maximize the volume with a compressor", it's BY DEFINITION a mastering issue... despite how "maximizing the volume with a compressor" is part of what makes mastering, mastering.
Shit fucks up. I'm not holding my breath for Metallica to be "BAAAAACK" but this sounds completely technical, and you people want Metallica to suck so much that you'd rather just believe some Norwegian press pulp than messages from their official camp that say it's a mastering error. I don't see what else it could be. To say it's in the mix just sounds like the opinion of someone who doesn't know what a mastering problem sounds like, or really, what mastering even is.
While we're at it, let's keep pretending the mixing and mastering stages are the only conversion stages the audio has to go through to become an mp3. I'm skeptical that there's even a problem with the actual masters. My bet's on the mp3 encoding.
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COMMENT | damn
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:10:15 PM
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A lot of prejudice for Norway here...
Lars pro tooled the shit out of his drums on this and St. Anger as far as I know not sure about Load and Reload but "Some Kind Of Monster" and the "In The Studio" clips are 100% visual proof he Pro Tooled the hell out of his drums... moving different beats and hits around to different times and a lot of cutting and pasting as well. Fuck that! A real drummer should have the balls to actually nail the tracks (click track or not) and not just half ass them and Pro Tool them later.
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COMMENT | new song
posted by : Kissfan77 8/27/2008 5:11:40 PM
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sounds like cross between "Unforgiven" and "one"...its okay. the beginning is really cool i think. middle is good too but not as memorable...i think i would prefer meatier catchy tunes then these guys trying to out do themselves with musical proficiency...
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COMMENT | IT MIGHT SUCK
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:12:46 PM
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NEVER MIND WHAT THE SONG SOUNDED LIKE ON ITUNES....YEA, SO FAR...IT DOESN'T HAVE VERY MUCH SOUL...LYRICS ARE DUMB....DRUMS ARE RECORDED FUNNY AGAIN....YOU WOULD THINK THAT AFTER THE LAST 10 YEARS OF BANDS LIKE "SHADOWS FALL" AND "AVENGED SEVENFOLD" MAKING THE KIND OF MUSIC METALLICA SHOULD OF...THEY WOULD SEE THAT SHIT. THE TWO SONGS THAT THEY HAVE POSTED HAVE A LITTLE BITE TO 'EM BUT AT THIS POINT "THRASH" OR A "THRASH REHASH/KILL 'EM ALL SOLOS STYLE THING SHOULD BE BENEATH THEM AS MUSICANS...IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO...OR READ ABOUT ANYTHING NEW....THEY SEEM TO BE STUCK IN THIS "BLUES/DANZIG/ALICE IN CHAINS THING" THAT THEY CAN'T WRITE THEMSELVES OUT OF.... THEY DIED AFTER "JUSTICE" IN MY BOOK ANYWAY....
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:16:43 PM
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"Although the band itself has not yet addressed the issue directly, it is believed that the source of the problem lies in the actual mix and not the mastering. With only three weeks left before "Death Magnetic"'s scheduled release, it is highly unlikely that any changes will be made to the album's final mix"
NOW I AM SCARRED
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COMMENT | Hey nameendingwith666
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:17:39 PM
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you don't know what you're talking about........a mastering error is very very bad news, a mastering error means the cds are screwed
the official guy never admitted there was a mastering error so i dunno what you're talking about. they were trying to say it was encoded to mp3 badly but you've got to make a real effort to screw that up so it sounds as bad as those two songs. learn your terminology before you start talking crap.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:17:52 PM
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And Rubin doesn't mix.
Everybody just chill the fuck out. Something between the master and the internet made it mega-clip.
And for the 98% of people who read my comments and don't know what I just said...
I know what I'm talking about.
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COMMENT | Chill your little pansy asses out.....sheesh
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:20:46 PM
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This album is gonna rule. Rick Rubin is the best producer in the game, period. Everything he puts out sounds great:
Slayer--Christ Illusion--Brilliant production Red Hot Chili Peppers--Stadium Arcadium--Classic SOAD--Everything he's touched with them has been masterful Slipknot--Vol. 3--Best sounding shit they've ever done.
Name one bad sounding album Rick Rubin has put out in the past 10 years? If it takes you THAT damn long, you know the new Metallica cd will be just fine come September 12.
'Nuff said......
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COMMENT | AS USUAL.......
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 5:24:01 PM
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ALL THE PANZIES HERE ARE CRYING NOW THAT THEY KNOW THIER WATERED DOWN POP ROCK IS NOW GOING TO SOUND EVEN MORE LIKE COMPLETE DUNG.......
PS- I JUST TOOK A HUGE DUMP...........LIKE THE ONE I'M GONNA TAKE ON THIS ALBUM, AFTER I STEAL IT FROM A METALLIWIMP!!
L O L !!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:24:38 PM
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we're have all heard this story... the real story today are the new dates for LA, Chicago and Newark!!!!
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COMMENT | 111222
posted by : 11:11 8/27/2008 5:25:57 PM
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it's "they're" when used in that manner. "their" is the posessive spelling of the word, numbnuts. Call your Mom from the basement for some more meatloaf, buddy.
there's no way the album is going to come out and be distorted like the TDTNC track was. It was just a mistake by whoever transfered the track to mp3 or whatever format it was streaming in. That guy is probably looking for a new job right about now. I don't think a professional release has EVER hit the shelf with a blown out mix like that. It just doesn't happen. And if it was the case, they would postpone the release until the problem was fixed... like maiden did with the Death on the Road DVD glitch among other bands. Shit happens. Looking forward to hearing this album and I like what I've heard so far. My Apocalypse rips.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:26:50 PM
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my apocalypse=best thing they've done since 91
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COMMENT | major richard head
posted by : CaughtInMoshActually 8/27/2008 5:28:37 PM
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Agreed. The prick moderator of the official Metallica board banned me because I gave an honest opinion of the new single. I couldn't believe it. If you don't shower the band with praise on there, expect to be banned.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:31:49 PM
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"If it had been an MP3 encoding issue or an issue with the mastering, there would have been a new, better-quality file out there already. There isn't."
Yes there is. Read the original article again.
"a mastering error is very very bad news, a mastering error means the cds are screwed"
Yep.
"the official guy never admitted there was a mastering error so i dunno what you're talking about. they were trying to say it was encoded to mp3 badly but you've got to make a real effort to screw that up so it sounds as bad as those two songs. learn your terminology before you start talking crap."
I know my terminology. Audio production is what I DO. MP3 encoding fucking up can sound incredibly bad or just sort of wrong, but there's no degree of "real effort" that makes it better or worse. Shit happens.
My point was that there's a lot of wrong terminology flying around here.
It's probably the mp3 encoding doing something to clip the hell out of the original master, which I said in the first place, but hell, I guess I shouldn't expect retards to read last paragraphs.
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COMMENT | HAHAHAHA
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:31:50 PM
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You really have great ears HAHAHA
Slayer--Christ Illusion--Brilliant production (NO - lots of compression and unwanted distortion) Red Hot Chili Peppers--Stadium Arcadium--Classic (never heard it) SOAD--Everything he's touched with them has been masterful (over compressed badly mastered and distorted) Slipknot--Vol. 3--Best sounding shit they've ever done. (heavily distorted and over compressed)
any more great examples of rubin's work? and you wonder why death magnetic has these problems
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COMMENT | Just delay the album MetallicA, instead of releasing a faulty product.
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:33:29 PM
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They should give Andy Sneap a call and have him fix the problem, he has a good reputation for mixing thing´s again from scratch if things ain´t sounding right. And he also knows how record and mix METAL record´s. That´s what i think they should do in this situation.
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COMMENT | YOU SAY, SOUNDS LIKE MUD.........
posted by : southmetal_guy 8/27/2008 5:33:49 PM
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I SAY, SOUNDS LIKE SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ST. ANGER PART DEUX!
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COMMENT | bobson billy
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:37:18 PM
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Hahaha. Well said. Except he didn't do much on that particular Slayer one.
To give Rubin a break though, he wasn't directly responsible for any of those sound problems.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:37:44 PM
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Rick Rubin doesent turn the knobs, Greg Fieldman does, so he and his engineers are more to blame than Rick i think.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:38:23 PM
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Are you blabbermouth kids happy now...??:)
Didnt almost see any negative posts about the song My apocalypse, but now I see youre having fun bashing Metallica again..
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COMMENT | Uhh..?
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:38:27 PM
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Where are people hearing this album? How can 80% of you be 100% sure the album will be shit? You haven't even heard it, which is completely devoid. Nobody is forcing you to like it, so you don't have to be ultra cool and show how metal you are by saying how much this sucks. NOTHING they could have done would have made you like it, your mind was made up the day after St. Anger came out.
Remember, It's cool to hate Metallica, like really ultra mega cool.
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COMMENT | Dave Levine
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:38:57 PM
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What would you know about sound? You don't even know who pioneered the British dual guitar sound or how many Iron Maiden albums Blaze Bayley sang on.
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COMMENT | WTF
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:39:24 PM
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I don't know what to think of all this sh*t... I thought ''Cyanide'' & ''The Day...'' were awful songs, but JUST when I got into that 'My Apocalypse'-doodle, this sh*t happens. I like their older stuff (KEA, RTL) and 'My Apocalypse' gave me some hopes. I'll wait 'til the CD's released, but that's the last chance I'm giving them..
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posted by : 8/27/2008 5:41:57 PM
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Why is the snare so loud in My Apocolypse? I liked the Kill Em All and RTL days when the guitars had "crunch". They seem kind of tinny on these two songs, maybe it's my speakers.
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COMMENT | the end is here
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:43:39 PM
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before st anger they had a chance to free them selves from what they created. In my opinon they should have just went there seprate ways. Has anyone noticed how they like playing in europe more that the states, i think the states would let them have it when it comes to the new crap . thats why when they play the states its mostly the old stuff.
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COMMENT | shitallica should have called up Fleming Rasmussen
posted by : blackfarted 8/27/2008 5:44:24 PM
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or maybe Peter Tagtgren, or as mentioned above, Andy Sneap, or that Suecof guy that did Black Dahlia Murder's last album...WTF does Rick Rubin know about metal these days, the last album he produced that I heard was RHCP's Californication in 2000, and even then I thought it sounded like garbage, a buttload of hisses and scratches and shit.
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COMMENT | Paging Bob Rock
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:44:34 PM
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Maybe they can bring Bob Rock in to mix it real quick! :)
No, I really dig the songs, but it is obvious that the mix is too fucking loud and compressed. Hopefully it will be fixed, but I doubt it because the CD comes out in weeks and I'm sure they have already pressed a ton of cd's, so unless they want to throw a million cd's away, it will probably sound just like it does on the radio........
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posted by : 8/27/2008 5:45:09 PM
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They should've sticked with Rasmussen on production, travel by bikes instead of fuckin' busses and kick Ulrich out of the fucking band!
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:49:39 PM
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"The 'new' MP3 file sounds as bad as the first one. Go read the posts on the METALLICA message board. So there isn't a 'better' file. Therefore it isn't an MP3 encoding issue. Like I said, it takes five minutes to upload a new file. They are still streaming that distorted pile of shit on their website."
You do realize Metallica's a big evil corporate rock band, right? There's turnaround time. This article was posted 15 minutes ago!
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COMMENT | Gossamer Axe
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:51:59 PM
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It´s also in the same level in The day that never comes, i think it´s Lars´s decision, on recent live video clips he has 2 mike´s on top of the snare. So he must really love the snare, or it´s placed so loud in the mix so everyone hears it´s not tuned the same way as on st. anger. And i agree its placed too up front in the mix and the guitars could do with a bit more chrunch.
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COMMENT | glad I wasn't gonna buy this album
posted by : 8/27/2008 5:55:19 PM
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I'll stick to the new Dragonforce, Falconer , and Motorhead for the next few weeks until the new Amon comes out
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COMMENT |
posted by : Grapenutz 8/27/2008 5:55:34 PM
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I'm just glad there aren't as many sheep on here as I thought.
The majority on here are right. The song sucks. The band keeps trying to drive home in interviews that they are back to their roots, but it's obvious they have completely lost the plot.
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posted by : 8/27/2008 5:57:45 PM
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"Maybe they can bring Bob Rock in to mix it real quick!"
Actually Randy Staub mixed those albums. He also mixes Nickelback albums.
Snicker.
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COMMENT | My question is...
posted by : TripletsRule 8/27/2008 6:01:47 PM
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Why has the name Flemming Rasmussen not come up in the past year? If they were so concerned with getting back to "their sound", why not put the man who made them that way in charge again?
Flemming Rasmussen is alive and well (we're myspace buddies). Maybe they should have given him a call, I'm sure he would have been up for the challenge.
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posted by : 8/27/2008 6:03:18 PM
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Their snare has been mega-compressed and mega-loud since the Black Album... I think their best production was on Ride the Lightning, even though they basically copped the production of Iron Maiden and the first Slayer album.
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COMMENT | Death magnetic sound
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:03:37 PM
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I have active studio speakers, and i almost blow them away, if my speakers would have suffer any damage or shit, i would ask warner or metallica for them to be repaired, what the fuck is this shit, are they joking with us, even in my old soundblaster card i had beter sound than this shit on my mixing and mastering, i will not buy the album if it sounds like this, glad i didn't order the coffin shit, i was about to order, but after this FUCK THEM, and i liked the songs, but they can't do things good, or the songs suck but have good production or mastering or the songs sound great and have poor mixing and mastering.
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COMMENT | Cool...
posted by : pazuzu68 8/27/2008 6:06:28 PM
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"...The cymbals sound like broken glass, the drums like trees cracking, and the guitars — which are mixed equally loudly — sound like someone shoved a screwdriver into my ears.""
Sounds like Metal to me - in fact that's the best recommendation anyone could've given me. I'd put this on a sticker on the cover if I were Metallica. Bring it on!
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posted by : cyrus ghahremani 8/27/2008 6:12:40 PM
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"why does he know what getting a screwdriver shoved in his ear sounds like"
norway, dude.
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COMMENT | No ANDY WALLACE, no good!
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest 8/27/2008 6:20:34 PM
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As I posted several times before:
Rick Rubin productions without the co-production/ engineering/ mixing talents of Andy Wallace are subpar.
Andy Wallace mixed Slayer's "holy trinity" of RIB, SOH and SITA and lots of some of the best sounding rock albums of all time - at least from a production standpoint. From Red Hot Chili Peppers to Nirvana to White Zombie, to Faith No More and back:
Everthing Andy Wallace touches sounds amazing. Clear, transparent, well ballanced and razor sharp.
Why Rick Rubin didn't utilize Wallace's services for this important new Metallica (or is it still "'tallica"?) album is totally beyond me.
Shitty mixes or final mastering jobs on current rock/metal albums happen again and again: Nevermore's Enemies Of Reality, Rush's Vapor Trails, Maiden's Dance Of Death...
Consequently, Kevin Shirley and Iron Maiden even released a mix without final mastering of A Matter Of Life And Death - and the result sounds crystal clear.
Personally, I don't care too much about this new album by Hetfield & Co., they won't be able to top the current Opeth, Moonspell or Testament albums anyway. But as a fan of their classic metal albums, it's kind of interesting to check out Metallica's new efforts (call it morbid interest).
If they fucked this one up from a production standpoint - it will go down as one of the biggest recorded mistakes in rock history.
Dear Rick Rubin: No Andy Wallace, no good.
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COMMENT | So everyone is a fucking sound engineer now....
posted by : spaztekmofo 8/27/2008 6:20:37 PM
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Wait til the fucking CD then decide.
Until then, No one can say shit.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:33:01 PM
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You know what's really funny ? This is what Lars had to say about the fucking CD a year ago!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbWGWbZ78ko
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COMMENT | Imperium74, mcman and spaztekmofo
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:33:06 PM
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I agree with both of you... I mean, first off, name ONE good thing to come out of Norway. Wait for it to come out before judging. It sounds distorted cuz they're so used to listening to Black Metal!
I'd bet 99.9% of you wouldn't know shit about shit when it came to mastering music. You can't blame the band. They're not the sound guy, nor is the producer. So, if you're actually gonna blame the band, you're a mental midget.
Besides, why would the band respond to lame shit?
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COMMENT | Loudness wars are in full force unfortunately.
posted by : pigchop 8/27/2008 6:38:43 PM
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Thew only solution which makes sense: remix the album. Hire a good sound engineer. A couple of guys come to mind - Andy Wallace (mentioned above (good call) or Andy Sneap - a damn fine set of ears on this man.
And here is someone I think would be an interesting choice: Bob Clearmountain. Have you ever heard the sound production on Roxy Music's "Avalon"...? It...is...incredible.
Yeah - so what, it's not metal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Clearmountain
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COMMENT | perfect
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:40:36 PM
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this is the final message: Lets see the Napster issue regain its suspicion.... a perfect message!
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COMMENT | LordofSalem and others
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:42:36 PM
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You don´t know shit. to name a few band´s : Ishanh, Emperor, Keep of kalessin, Immortal are all band´s of great quality musicians that you should listen to befor e you start talking shit about things you clearly don´t know anything about.
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COMMENT | MEtallica is done, thank you and goodnight...
posted by : PlagueBringer 8/27/2008 6:48:02 PM
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This album is a comedy of errors, from a technical standpoint to shoddy songwriting and Lar's snare drum fetish.
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COMMENT | who cares
posted by : josh1982fla 8/27/2008 6:50:19 PM
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what the mp3 file sounds like,the album will sound fine.
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COMMENT | 111222 "I am also peternorthsload"
posted by : Blindgreed1 8/27/2008 6:51:06 PM
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You're still an asshat.
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COMMENT | just listened to the sample at Itunes...
posted by : PlagueBringer 8/27/2008 6:53:33 PM
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Utter shite indeed!!!
IF that is the fixed one this will be one of the worst sounding albums in history.
BUYER BEWARE!!!
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COMMENT | SonOfTheMourning
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:55:40 PM
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Like I said name one good thing...
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COMMENT | BORING
posted by : 8/27/2008 6:56:31 PM
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It sounds nothing like Mud, though I'd pay money to hear Hetfield sing "Tiger Feet". :-p
MP3s sound quality is worse than a CD. CD sound quality is worse than vinyl. Hence I'll be buying the vinyl, and judging the mixing/ mastering from that. So shut the fuck up and stop bitching about something you haven't actually heard yet, you fucking retards.
As for the songs, "My Apocalypse" fucking rules. I wasn't sure about "The Day..." at first, but after a couple of listens and seeing it played live at Reading, I reckon it's got a "Fade To Black" vibe to it.
The only let down so far is Lars. On recent live recordings his feet sound sloppy, and the fills on the two new tracks seem to revolve only around the snare... you've got toms, use 'em!
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:00:28 PM
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Besides... what DOES mud sound like anyways?
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COMMENT | LordofSalem
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:03:08 PM
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I named a few there, your just not open minded enough to recognize quality in music.. doesent matter what kind the music is, if there´s quality then one hear´s it if one desent then there´s a problem with musical hearing and person should just stick to listening to music for enjoyment not quality.
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COMMENT |
posted by : TheEagle 8/27/2008 7:09:55 PM
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"Garage Days" was the last album which sounded like a band recording and probably the least expensive of their career.
The new album sounds like a demo I'd do in my home studio, not something you'd have to pay thousands of thousands of dollars with top class engineers in a top class studio. This is what people expect from Metallica.
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COMMENT | the whole album sounds like mud...
posted by : #1metalhead 8/27/2008 7:11:47 PM
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i had the chance to hear most of it & the sound quality is second rate,not to mention the musical quality although better than the last few records they've done.nothing at all like the old stuff.metallica has been over since '88.
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COMMENT | In case everyone......
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 7:14:20 PM
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in here didnt get it yet- I happen to be a metal expert spanning all genres of metal. I know everything about metal and hard rock, producers, drumming(being one that would wipe the floor with Lars all day). I own over 800 cd's. And to put it bluntly, theres no one in this site that can match my shear knowledge of metal music. I am a true KNOW IT ALL!!
That being said: Metallica= Listened to by a bunch of 12 year olds!LOL
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COMMENT | Rasmussen
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:16:27 PM
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I thought 'Cyanide' & 'My Apocalypse' weren't bad songs, they DO contain good riffs... just imagine those with Rasmussen as a producer... and with THOSE TRASH VOCALS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiCv0kLEJtc
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COMMENT |
posted by : wooten 8/27/2008 7:19:07 PM
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I wonder if the dude who engineered/mixed the record had any experience with metal (not talking about Rubin).
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COMMENT | shame
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:22:58 PM
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Millions of dollars and brain washed by a bunch of engineers and idiots into believing that this shit sounds good. You think by now as much experience as they have they could record shit themselves. I am not the biggest fan of Disturbed (not a fan at all) but they did the production on their new album and it sounds awesome. All these years and they never learned how to record and produce their own shit... pathetic. I bet just like St. Anger this album sounds this way I really do. They were stupid enough to be convinced that it was a good choice to release St. Anger so they are dumb enough to release a cd full of clipping and shit distortion. As for the Lars snare quote... duh he loves his snare its the only drum he really uses for everything. Lars is the snare roll king.
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COMMENT | 111222
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:24:33 PM
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"in here didnt get it yet- I happen to be a metal expert spanning all genres of metal. I know everything about metal and hard rock, producers, drumming(being one that would wipe the floor with Lars all day). I own over 800 cd's. And to put it bluntly, theres no one in this site that can match my shear knowledge of metal music. I am a true KNOW IT ALL!!"
Do you want a cookie or something? I can match and defeat you so bring it on :) 800 cds ha ha ha is that suppose to be impressive?
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COMMENT | 111222....
posted by : #1metalhead 8/27/2008 7:27:45 PM
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any drummer could wipe his ass with lars (at least over the last twenty years) give us a link so we can hear 'ya.as long as you don't use your snare 95% of the time & the double bass pedal the other 5% like the above mentioned,you might be alright.always looking for talented musicians.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Biki 8/27/2008 7:31:22 PM
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Grasping at enough straws?
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COMMENT |
posted by : houde666 8/27/2008 7:34:43 PM
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How the fuck does those guys...
1- Rick Rubin 2- Greg Fidelman 3- Metallica 4- Warner
...can fuck up with this?????? I just can't beleive it. There is a TON of underground bands out there without that kind of problem!
Who is the fucking junior who did this? It's unbelievable. And they are selling this quality via iTunes right now!
Unbelievable...
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COMMENT | I think this job was handled by interns...
posted by : PlagueBringer 8/27/2008 7:40:55 PM
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It would make sense, MEtallica would probably go for it too.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:43:03 PM
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Rockkica don't bargin, come to terms with or negotiate with anyone. They just release it, and if people don't like it, well they got your money anyway! If you need good shredding metal, listen to children of bodom!!!
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COMMENT | houde666
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:44:02 PM
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"Who is the fucking junior who did this? It's unbelievable. And they are selling this quality via iTunes right now!"
What is even sadder is that people are actually buying it.
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COMMENT |
posted by : houde666 8/27/2008 7:45:30 PM
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By the way we are talking about SOUND here and not SONGWRITTING.
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COMMENT | you guys please use your heads
posted by : 8/27/2008 7:49:23 PM
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i know all the bitter fans out there that can't face the fact that metallica might actually put out a good album. i'm just as skeptical as the last person. but to say that metallica can't ever put out a good album ever again is just bullshit. your all just a bunch of idiots who think they sound cool cause they're using the same typical lines as all the other metallica haters out there. The Day That Never Comes is a really good single. You should congratulate metallica for not putting out shit for once. And who fucking cares that they made a mistake on the quality of the single. AJFA sound quality is shit but its technically they're best album. the black album is mediocre half ass album with great sound. it dosen't matter the quality of the sound, its the music itself. so i'm still holding out hope for death magnetic. and you should too
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COMMENT |
posted by : nyc333 8/27/2008 7:54:47 PM
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So the label makes people take down reviews and the metallica site just wants the fanboys to lick the load off of the bands nuts if you dont you get banned. No wonder they come here to cry like girls when everyone isnt as PUMPED as they are for this complete mess.
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posted by : nyc333 8/27/2008 7:58:04 PM
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Lets not forget this is the band that had to take limp bizkit out with them to help sell tickets, and 95% of the shows still didnt sell out and this was when nu-metal garbage was at its peak.
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COMMENT | Name one bad sounding album Rick Rubin has put out in the past 10 years?
posted by : 8/27/2008 8:00:09 PM
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Californication. SUCKED.
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COMMENT | SonOfTheMourning
posted by : 8/27/2008 8:02:39 PM
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I am quite open minded. I just don't like Black Metal, so I don't acknowledge it as "good music". I agree... one should listen to music for enjoyment, not quality. So, if the new Metallica has "poor" (it sounded fine to me) quality, and you like it, then does anyone's opinion really matter on this subject? I think not.
As for you Metallica bashers, if you really hate Metallica as much as you do, then why waste your time bashing them? Cuz it's "fun"? Do you really have nothing better to do with your time? You're probably one of those people who sit watching YouTube all day laughing your ass off at a video of a dog farting. If talking shit about shit makes you "feel big", then grow up and get a life. Go find something productive to do... something that actually matters.
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posted by : nyc333 8/27/2008 8:05:44 PM
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LordofSalem
we need to find something productive to do? Like what defend a band that has let you down countless times? Do you think of yourself so highly that you belive you are a superhero who fights haters?
Which is worse people speaking their minds or some tool such as yourself taking a shitty band so personally and feeling the need to defend them while attacking the "haters". Just shut the fuck up go back to metallica.com and play with the other fan girls.
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posted by : nyc333 8/27/2008 8:08:30 PM
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watch out guys the fangirls are going to contact blabbermouth and ask for you to remove this story. Where are all the fanboys saying AHHAHAHAH METALLICA ARE BACK now?
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COMMENT | ????
posted by : 8/27/2008 8:24:04 PM
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Wow, if my band had all the money they do, our next cd would sound like God! I just don't understand how with all that backing the cd sounds as weak (production wise) as Justice? Whoever talked about Disturbed's production is right. Their sound quality is awesome (their music sucks though, but that's beyond the point)......Slipknots new one sounds great....I think that's it's Lars who is in everyone's ear wanting more noise and drums, which fucks it up! Never let the drummer have the final say on the mix! It needs to be a team decision, but I'm pretty sure Lars dictates the final product! Well, I'm hoping for the best......
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COMMENT |
posted by : Purpendicular 8/27/2008 8:33:58 PM
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"Experts"? Who are these "experts"? I'll let my own ears do the judging, thank you very much. As everyone should.
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COMMENT | haha
posted by : mastronaut 8/27/2008 8:37:32 PM
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posted by : sexual_mustard 8/27/2008 5:49:59 PM "why don't we look at the bigger problem and fess up that the song really blows, and that no amount of "fixing" the mix will help?"
So true, and hilarious as well....
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COMMENT | And the fact remains......
posted by : 111222 8/27/2008 8:41:25 PM
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I= An amazing drummer Lars=Toilet water
VITAL REMAINS>>>>SELLOUTTICA!! GLEN BENTON>>>>>>JAMES HETFIELD
LARS' BLASTBEATS==NEVER HAD ANY!!!lol MY BLASTBEATS== PUMMELING!!! I>>>>>JOEY JORDISON!LOL
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COMMENT |
posted by : 8/27/2008 8:47:12 PM
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You guys are so retarded. You actually think they would purposely make the sound quality worse just to piss off some people? It's an error, thats all. And if you listen to Christ Illusion by Slayer, I think you'll find the production is quite similar (tiny glitches and clips aside).
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COMMENT | Everyone in the metal/rock record industry
posted by : shithed 8/27/2008 9:01:07 PM
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should go back to TAPE ....seriously there is no warmth in digital audio recoridng from the amp to the mic to digital capture.
exact reason most guys still play tube amps.
I cannot remember hearing a great sounding metal disc since digital recording came to the forefront of the music industry. its all loops,slices and pitch tuning shit. leave the pro tools in your bedroom or on the tour bus. and buy a analog tape machine for your studio.
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posted by : 8/27/2008 9:07:44 PM
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" all this technical BS reeks of promotional crap done to keep it on all the news feeds"
...because writing an amazingly beautiful, catchy, melodic, heavy metal song with lyrics that weren't full of forced rhymes for once in their career wouldn't.
Kalmah. 'nuff said.
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COMMENT | 5 mins 21 seconds into The Song That Never Ends:
posted by : 8/27/2008 9:08:01 PM
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The Trooper, anybody?
Both tracks are poor, bad sound quality or not. Metallica by numbers.
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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666 8/27/2008 9:08:19 PM
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I will judge the sound with my ears on Sept 12th.
Also i remember an interview with Lemmy on the Guitar sound for the album Orgasmatron Lemmy said that it sounded like mud. It is in his book white line fever.
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COMMENT | major richard head...
posted by : 8/27/2008 9:09:17 PM
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you're right... I'm STILL into Metallica... huge fan. As for the dog fart thing... no, actually, I'm not. Metallica's new album is gonna kick ass. It's gonna cockslap everything that's gonna come out this year.
METALLICA RULES
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COMMENT | Slayer..
posted by : Devil's Deja Vu 8/27/2008 9:18:21 PM
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is darker, heavier, ballsier than metallica, always has been this way...as a matter of fact let me listen some Live Undead from South of Heaven right fuckin' now...
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COMMENT | Digg this article...
posted by : 8/27/2008 9:53:04 PM
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Make this shit go viral in the media and force these fuckers to put out some quality sounding music. I joined M:M at the beginning and pre-paid for the album, thinking they would never make a st. anger part 2 (as far as production goes). The songs so far kick ass, but the production is a slap in the face to the fans.
http://digg.com/celebrity/Metallica_s_new_songs_terrible_sounding
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posted by : 8/27/2008 10:22:24 PM
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the first song, even bon jovi would think it's gay. second song, thrash riffs that even an unsigned band would never use out of pure self respect.
how have the mighty fallen
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COMMENT | This Song Sucks...
posted by : 8/27/2008 11:11:30 PM
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The only good thing I can say about this is that it is better than St. Anger.
Upcoming Megadeth With Broderick >>>>>>>>> Death Magnetic
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COMMENT | Just Listened To My Apocalypse
posted by : 8/27/2008 11:19:35 PM
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...and regret I stopped listening to Meshuggah to torture myself with that pile of crap.
Hetfields vocals on that one are EVEN WORSE than St. Anger...
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COMMENT | bluesy73
posted by : 8/27/2008 11:40:44 PM
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Well said...
All you hates can hate all ya want, but act mature about it... really... geez...
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COMMENT | To clarify some things.
posted by : 8/27/2008 11:47:14 PM
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This is utter bullshit that Rubin or Metallica is to blame for the poor sound on some copies being mailed out to press.
The songsi heard today does NOT sound muddy or crappy. What i heard is the final thing and it does not suck. Just wait and see...
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COMMENT | Tape Magnetic
posted by : repeater 8/27/2008 11:51:42 PM
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Hahahahaha. Fuck Metallica.
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COMMENT | Haters!
posted by : 8/28/2008 1:46:06 AM
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Hate on the album after it comes out. Bunch of fucking scumbags. You heard 2-3 songs, once which, yes the quality is garbage.......... The shit will get fixed. Get over it.
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posted by : sTrAnDeD88 8/28/2008 1:54:12 AM
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this band has a heart of gold for their music...but they have shit for brains for how they are making their music
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COMMENT | Something similar
posted by : 8/28/2008 2:09:56 AM
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Something similar to this happened with The Black Album's master tapes. The band said that the original master tapes of the album had a bunch of clicking sounds on it when they went to have it pressed. They had to hurry and fix it. I can't remember how they did it, but they corrected the problem before the release date. The point is, things like this happen. I'm not trying to give an excuse for lousy production or anything, but I'm not going to get myself all worked up about it until I hear the actual CD on my home stereo. To get pissed off and bash the fuck out of the album (or band/producer) before it even hits the shelves is premature and foolish. Another thing that I don't understand is that with any Metallica album I hear people bitch that it was either too polished or not polished enough. Make up your mind. I'm tired of hearing that worn out argument (among others) every time Metallica releases something new. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Nobody's forcing anybody to listen to Metallica or buy their music. Let it go. I fucking hate Top 40 radio bullshit, but you don't see me listening to it or reading articles about it and then bitching about it afterwards. I simply ignore it, which is what a lot of you elitist, soap-boxing, opinionated, doomsday metal wannabe motherfuckers should do. To read an article about a band you don't like and shit all the hatred out of your mouth about it shows that you really have nothing better to do than jump on the bashwagon because it's the cool thing to do.
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COMMENT | Hands up..
posted by : Embrace_the_HATE 8/28/2008 2:31:33 AM
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..all those who have sold albums in the millions worlwide, and consistently sold out venues all over the world for over 20 YEARS!! Anyone??? No??? Then why don't you just shut the fuck up, and stop whining like a bunch of little pussies!! Honestly.. Why do you fuckers even click on these threads about Metallica when you are obviously so hardcore and above them?? So you're not going to spend that hard earned cash you made working at McDonalds on Death Magnetic.. You know what?? I think Metallica just might survive that..
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posted by : Metal Guru 8/28/2008 2:52:40 AM
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someone here had already identified the mixing problem
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posted by : Metal Guru 8/28/2008 2:57:29 AM
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get the new Cavalera Conspiracy album, forget Metallica
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COMMENT | shithed
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest 8/28/2008 3:09:05 AM
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You are totally right as far as analog recordings are concerned.
Everybody, listen to the last album by Grip Inc., called Incorporated. Try a song like "Curse (Of The Cloth)" or "Skin Trade", a thrasher par excellence. Analog recording on this album, no use of digital equipment. And it sounds amazing. Probably one of the best metal productions of the last ten years. Everything sounds spot-on, especially Dave Lombardo's drums. Thanks to Waldemar Sorychta, one of the best metal producers of today.
And as for ...And Justice For All and Lars' quite technical and fast drumming back in those days:
It is common underground knowledge that at least some of Lars' patterns on Justice were looped in the studio, listen to Dyer's Eve again. Pro Tools didn't exist back then, but other studio trickery did. And it's very obvious that Ulrich is not able to recreate his old playing live nowadays. He was never able to perform Dyer's Eve live the way it was recorded and he struggles, hard, to play his vintage double bass patterns. I really like 80ies Lars Ulrich, but he is washed up now. Mike Portnoy is right.
Take Dave Lombardo for example, same generation as Lars. Lombardo is not the best and most technical drummer in the world (look at guys like Marco Minnemann or Virgil Donati instead), but he's the best straight forward thrash drummer out there, with a style and sound like no other.
The difference between him and Lars Ulrich: Lombardo is a musician who loves what he does and who is trying to progress. Look at his "polka" drum clinic video on YouTube. Fun.
Lars Ulrich is an ex-hobby tennis player who decided to play the drums instead - and who became a lazy fuck when the money started pouring in, unfortunately.
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COMMENT | I just dont get it ....
posted by : 8/28/2008 4:13:25 AM
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how could they mess up the sound like this, the songs sound like demos.This has nothing to do with compression or volume its just lacking post production and some of the turns in the songs scream loud of copy and paste digital jobs, no "breeding room feel"at all. As for the drums how can they not get at least the drumsounds back from The Black Album , heavy clean and loud (ie Sad but True or Wherever i may roam ...with the rolls and all)
Even poor ol' Davey(Mustaine) can get wicked sounds for his albums and he produces them...why? because he likes what he does and he has the drive to do it and not like" lets write an album in the next 2 years ", hype it and flush it like Metallica does.
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COMMENT | Metallica in bad production shocker!
posted by : 8/28/2008 4:47:54 AM
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Big deal, lots of bands have horribly compressed productions... only when it's Metallica do people start whinning. The most important thing is that the new songs suck, that's all.
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COMMENT | whats bigger?
posted by : 8/28/2008 5:24:10 AM
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the new metallica single or the sensless ranting that its created?
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COMMENT | Well...
posted by : 8/28/2008 6:40:21 AM
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I think MA was a little better than The Day..., and both songs shitloads better than anything from St. Wanker... But I think I'll save my money for the release of the new Kreator album ;)
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posted by : 8/28/2008 9:35:07 AM
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Just listen to the new AC/DC song that they have streaming on there website, that alone just blow´s away the lame excuse that it´s the streaming fault for the crappy sound, and also the mix is much better.
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posted by : Metal Guru 8/28/2008 9:45:20 AM
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Load is a better album, seriously
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COMMENT | suggestions.......
posted by : 8/28/2008 11:25:31 AM
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ok haters (as you clearly all are).......... I'm looking for a realworld list of top 10 bands (besides metallica) and if you fucking mention slayer I'm going to slice ur ballz off..talk about playing the SAME STUPID FUCKING RIFF OVER AND OVER 204 BPM....a real world list of new metal...I mean real fucking chugging riffs, melody, actual VOCAL melodies and not 130 lbs pip sqeeks puking into a microphone with undicernable lyrics....also maybe some actual thought put into the lyrics too.....I hear people talk of Meshuggah and they've mentioned Gojira? I'm wanting to give these a full fair listen and not just a one time and fuck them off as junk" either. It took me about 10 listens to get into Mastodon, but now they're one of my favorite, even though that can't sing worth a fuck. give me the list..................
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COMMENT | You are all...
posted by : 8/28/2008 2:31:12 PM
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a bunch of fucking losers. Get a life, go outside, go to work. Just do something. Who writes Metallica manifestos?
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COMMENT | shannon009877
posted by : 8/28/2008 2:40:06 PM
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well, sincs you asked...here's 13 (in no particular order)
Nightwish Meshuggah Opeth Mastodon Lacuna Coil Machine Head High On Fire Within Temptation Amon Amarth (probably the best metal band at the moment) Kreator Violator Arch Enemy Testament
jdfu!
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COMMENT | oops!
posted by : 8/28/2008 2:41:07 PM
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That should be "since".
Carry on.
jdfu!
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COMMENT | I was curious...
posted by : 8/28/2008 3:01:14 PM
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to read the article, after which I then dip into the comments to feel better about myself. Thanks for helping, loser.
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COMMENT | Pffft
posted by : fishyboy 8/28/2008 4:47:28 PM
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doesn't matter if the mixing sounds like mud.
the actual song sounds like shit.
I stupidly had reasonably high hopes for this album but ive heard a few songs and they are dire. Metallica are a let down, I think it's time they step down, I'd rather not hear of them again than hear their next shitty album.
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posted by : 8/28/2008 8:12:43 PM
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How stupid can musicians for over 20 years be? Seriously, the sound quality is terrible, and the sad thing is that the songs arent even bad. Way to fuck yourselves over once again.
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COMMENT | you've got to be kidding......
posted by : 8/29/2008 1:38:56 PM
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RE:hurricane hugo
well, sincs you asked...here's 13 (in no particular order)
Nightwish Meshuggah Opeth Mastodon Lacuna Coil Machine Head High On Fire Within Temptation Amon Amarth (probably the best metal band at the moment)
Amon Amarth...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFq2YJKYa-k
this is it? This is the best you got? The synchronized headbangning at the beginning about sums this lot up. You & your constituents shit talk possibly THE most influencial band of all time and you come back with THIS??? Come the fuck on man. Amon's timing is impeccible, their playing is tight as hell- but shit, the vocals are crap, the lyrics are just downright stupid...the lead singer is singing in a drop octave falsetto (like EVERY OTHER metal wanna be band on the planet these days)...if I need fantasy lyrics with indicernable singing....MASTODON is the way to go. As THEY CLEARLY are the winners when it comes to musicianship in metal....I'm looking for Mastodon type metal with a lead singer who can actually sing or BARK IN TUNE - it's not like hetfield has the BEST voice in the world but shit, his lyrics are good and personal, not about vikings sailing off to the north sea and playing molly hatchet cover art wanna be's, he CAN sing, he damn near INVENTED the barking in tune yell/sing.....so once again.....is there a band out there that can compete - or are all these "up and coming" slayer wanna be rip off's - going to keep riding the coattails of METALLICA....since they wouldn't even be around if it weren't for hetfield and co.
Round 2 mother fuckerzzzzzz
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posted by : 8/30/2008 2:01:20 AM
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Actually I thought his list was pretty good. Not the choices I would make, but definitely enough to get the point across.
I think it's a damn shame that you're so limited to think one of the most commercially accessible metal bands out there is better than those.
as for "THE most influencial band of all time"
that statement right there proves how badly you need to get out and into the real world. Oh well, enjoy the new metallica record!
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posted by : 8/30/2008 1:58:46 PM
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"Actually I thought his list was pretty good. Not the choices I would make, but definitely enough to get the point across.
I think it's a damn shame that you're so limited to think one of the most commercially accessible metal bands out there is better than those".
I see from my incomplete written thought, where you'd think that my thinking is limited. I'm an obvious huge metallica fan BUT not so closed minded to not give a solid listen to ANY OTHER MUSIC out there at all. But as of yet, i've heard NOT ONE metal band that has a good lead singer, non monotonous riffs over and over and over and over and over with obligatory super tight double bass , with a lead singer that isn't even remotely singing or barking in tune or whathaveya, but damn near puking into the microphone....for what reason i dunno, other than maybe they want NO ONE to actually hear their lyrics b/c they are still singing about whatever it is that dudes who puke into microphones sing about. Fuck, even black label society's zack wylde has moments where he actually sings and does a damn good job and THAT band rocks. As far as the statement THE most influencial band of all time - I meant metal band....as they clearly have NO competitors in terms of complete package. Yes, Mastodon can literally blow them off the stage in terms of playing but think about it......if any of those bands that were given in that list, had ANY staying power, ANY relevence to ANY MUSIC SCENE and ANY asperations of getting out of the underground, death, goth, emo, buttsex in a backroom pool hall music scene that has sooooo many bands that ALL sound the same, that ALL play the same riffs - then MAYBE we'd see more metal bands that have sold almost 100m albums world wide, are the most requested band on ALL rock stations across the country - sell out STADIUMS in EUROPE by THEMSELVES??? any of those on the list sell out BY THEMSELVES..... any venues much less stadiums anywhere? hello?........yeah - thought not.
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posted by : Type o Dave 9/1/2008 10:39:50 AM
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Who cares?
I don't. Do you? Really?
I mean, it's a free sample. The problem will definitely be ironed come the 12th.
Honestly, move on people. Don't be so anal all the time.
Metallica or death baby!
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