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METALLICA's HETFIELD Says NEWSTED Should Share HALL OF FAME Honor, But Not DAVE MUSTAINE
- Nov. 2, 2008
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METALLICA frontman James Hetfield recently spoke to Rolling Stone magazine about the band's nomination for induction into the 2009 Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame in its second year of eligibility, with the band qualifying because it has been recording for 25 years. An excerpt from the chat follows below.
Rolling Stone: Most likely, METALLICA will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame next April. Who will be onstage with you?
Hetfield: "Everyone that played on a record should be there. You're considered for the Hall 25 years after your first recording, not after you formed."
Rolling Stone: That would omit Dave Mustaine [former METALLICA guitarist and current MEGADETH mainman].
Hetfield: "He wasn't on a record. Jason Newsted [former METALLICA bassist] should be up there — he was in the band for 14 years and played on quite a few records. And so should Robert [Trujillo; current METALLICA bassist]."
Rolling Stone: Will it be weird to be there with Jason?
Hetfield: "There's no reason for it to be weird. We don't want to be part of the soap opera of the Hall of Fame. Everybody wants a train wreck, like with BLONDIE onstage arguing over crap [in 2006]. That really cheapens the moment."
METALLICA got the largest number of votes in the Cleveland Plain Dealer's ninth annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame poll, which asked both print and online readers to pick which nominees on the latest Hall of Fame ballot are the ones they feel most worthy of induction. More than 250 ballots were cast, with RUN-DMC, WAR, THE STOOGES and LITTLE ANTHONY AND THE IMPERIALS rounding out the picks. Only five acts are inducted each year, with this year's list of hopefuls also including JEFF BECK, CHIC, WANDA JACKSON and BOBBY WOMACK.
METALLICA drummer Lars Ulrich told the Plain Dealer about the results, "That's really nice to hear," adding, "It's been a great year for METALLICA. There's a lot of love and goodwill from the fans, from the critics, from the peers, from all the sixth-graders over at my son's school. There's a lot of love everywhere I look. It's amazing to be able to say 27 years into your career that you actually feel like you're on top of your game."
The inductees will be announced this month, with the ceremony scheduled for the Hall of Fame in Cleveland next spring.
METALLICA is currently on the road in support of "Death Magnetic", which entered the Billboard chart last month at No. 1.
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COMMENT |
posted by : DemonicScreams666
11/2/2008 2:28:57 AM
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Why the fuck would Dave Mustaine be up there?
Stupid Question
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posted by : Oldskulethrash
11/2/2008 2:29:37 AM
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I hardly doubt that Mustaine would even want to go anywayz.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 2:36:51 AM
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Why would either Dave Mustaine or Jason Newsted care about the HOF anyway?
I never cared much for Blondie but I agree that their public infighting at the event in 2006 really made them look bad.
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COMMENT | mustaine rips
posted by :
11/2/2008 2:38:32 AM
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He deserves more credit than he's getting for his guitar work. He definately helped write some of the best Metallica songs ever, even if he is an ass don't hate on his guitar skills.
PS: The Metallica show in Portland,OR tonight was A+++ all four were on fire, the only weak song they played was nothing else matters.
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COMMENT | denmark
posted by : motley crue
11/2/2008 3:03:57 AM
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love metallica now im a big rob fan..but it would be nice to see jason again...him and duff are the reason i play bass today....:)
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COMMENT | cliff????
posted by :
11/2/2008 3:36:46 AM
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to motley crue how about cliff???????????
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COMMENT |
posted by : hippy
11/2/2008 3:37:56 AM
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...cool that james acknowledged jason's time and playing/
recording contributions to the band...
..whether jason would actualy show up is another question..
(in MY opinion i reckon he should..)
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 3:41:16 AM
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he shouldnt be there, how only has 6 song writing credits on 2 out of their 9 studio albums
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COMMENT | bobo
posted by : jorgen
11/2/2008 4:00:14 AM
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...and Newsted only has 3. In 14 years, 3 writing credits. Dave Mustaine did more in 10 months. No slight to Newsted; he's great and all, but credit where credit is due. Mustaine was always, and still remains, light years ahead of the rest of Metallica in terms of musicianship.
Ask yourself, could you REALLY imagine if Mustaine had never been in Metallica? Would they even be remotely the same band?
Who knows. Who cares. He was there, and he wrote songs they STILL play to this DAY. Let him up there, he deserves it.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 4:01:42 AM
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I actually agree with Hetfield. And I am pretty much a Mustaine nutswinger. If the qualification is 25 years after the first record - if you weren't on the record, you aren't qualified.
Dave was influential enough - Megadeth will be inducted eventually on their own anyway.
And yes, Cliff Burton will be inducted. He obviously won't BE at the ceremony, but he will be inducted, just like the dead members of Lynyrd Skynyrd were (and it was very cool to see guys like Bob Burns, Artimus Pyle, and Ed King there jamming with them again).
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COMMENT | Hetfield / Ulrich / Mustaine on 6 songs...
posted by : mortalfungus
11/2/2008 4:06:19 AM
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...that became instant classics of the band. He probably wrote most of the music on them. He wrote "Leper messiah", too, but they never mentioned that, they only stealed his riffs.
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COMMENT | lol
posted by : jorgen
11/2/2008 4:09:16 AM
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Agreed. But c'mon. The songs Mustaine DOES have credit on, have his style plastered all over them.
Four Horsemen alone tells that tale.
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COMMENT | lol
posted by : otis360
11/2/2008 4:10:35 AM
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a solo is not considered part of making that song what it is.
if the solo had a hook and a melody it could be debatable.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 4:12:20 AM
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Yeah but Newsted was part of Metallica for 14 years and he dedicated himself to the band by touring and recording with them. I really respect Mustaine for his musicianship and i love Megadeth but he was only part of Metallica for a couple of months, before all the touring and before all the recording. So who cares if he wrote a couple of insignificant songs. Mustaine didnt put as much blood, sweat and tears into Metallica like Jason did, he just got completely wasted during that time.
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COMMENT | Dear James, remember 'Metal Massacre I'?
posted by : TruthIsParamount
11/2/2008 4:36:01 AM
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Guess who played on 'Hit the Lights', your first ever official(ly) released) recording?
That's right: Dave f'n Mustaine!
Guess who co-wrote 'Kill 'Em All' and 'Ride the Lightning'?
That's right: Dave Mustaine!
Don't be an ungracious, ungrateful asshole and have some class. Mustaine has way earned to be inducted alongside you.
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COMMENT | Wow!
posted by : ProlificProcreator
11/2/2008 4:49:53 AM
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James really still has a chip on his shoulder about Dave. A few weeks ago he mocked Mustaines singing in a tv interview, and now this. I guess all that therapy couldn't fix everything.
Dave had a big influence on the first three albums, and he played on Hit the lights from Metal Massacre. They also released video of the band with him playing several songs on Cliff em All.
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COMMENT | Hetfield is a forgetful douchebag (not that the RRHF means much anyway)
posted by : ADCS
11/2/2008 5:07:10 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica_demos
Read up on your shit. Mustaine was a huge element to the band's original sound (which they have now attempted to essentially re-do with Death Magnetic). Then they hired a poodle who can play, but won't argue (Kirk) with King James and Queen Lars.
But really, who cares? Metallica, for years, has been an irrelevant band in the metal world. Even they couldn't give a shit. They're getting paid.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:13:14 AM
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Mustaine needs acknowledging in the success story that is Metallica but I very much doubt he`d want to go to this anyhow. I just think they should re-issue Kill `em All with the Metal Massacre and No Life till Leather demos and leave it at that.
Still, lack of class from Hetfield here.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:16:59 AM
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So the guy that wrote/co wrote the songs that launched your career...
compared to the guy who merely played (nigh indistinguishable) bass on songs that seemed to want to end your career.
Whatever, I've always felt megadeth was far better than metallica anyway.
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COMMENT | Call Phil Towle
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:30:01 AM
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I guess James should call Phil Towle again to practice some therapy on this issue. Man, you can't deny Dave guided Metallica in the first days and Jason didn't bring shit to the table. Just a hired gun. It's unbelievable that it's James who's bringing Dave into the picture, after all these previous years ignoring him. Making fun of him 'cause his vocal style,maybe because he can sing in E with no problem, and James, as we have seen recently on the Making Death Magnetic DVD and live, actually can NOT. Maybe because Dave is not equal to Hair Loss. (Sorry Lars. Sorry James. Sorry Kirk). Maybe because he's not playing with a drummer that, to hide his own and remarcable absence of skills and musicianship, manages to take the writing process to a comfortable level of simplicity with the laughable excuse of "We need to sound 'lively'" when something sounds too much intrincate, James now hates him more than never before.
I love Metallica, btw, but I'll always love 'Deth much more. I think Dave is infrarated, in spite of the 20 million records sold. He deserves much more. Nuff said.
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COMMENT | Well Done Chic'!!!
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:37:35 AM
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It's good to see Chic being recognised for their essential contributions to the music world. They added more to the history of rock than Deep Purple, Kiss, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Saxon, UFO, Blackfoot, Uriah Heep, Whitesnake, Rainbow, Dio, Anthrax, Slayer, The Scorpions, Motorhead, Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Foreigner, Journey, Styx, Kansas, Krokus, Manowar, Loverboy, Molly Hatchet, Raven, Quiet Riot, Thin Lizzy, Survivor, Firefall, Toto, Michael Bolton, Accept and Pantera combined!!!!!
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COMMENT | Hall Of Fame!
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:46:39 AM
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James was not trying to slight Dave, He simply pointed out the fact that YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY PLAY ON A STUDIO RECORDING to be a part of the hall of fame ceremony.
If you put some of the people in the Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame for writing some of the timeless classics of our time, I find it quite likely that some of these bands would feel cheapened knowing they couldn't write their own shit.
Look at Johnny Cash, he's in the Hall of Fame and yet, he rarely wrote any material on his own and he's one of the GREATEST musicians on the fucking planet, period.
I can't really name too many bands as I'm just waking up, but I know it's fact that a good chunk of bands from that particular era of music (Cash's prime) were on the same boat and while they all had some writing credit, they didn't have anything of substance and musical involvement (recording) with the creation.
The bottom line, Metallica deserves to be the Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame just as Gretsky deserves to the be in the Hockey Hall Of Fame or Marino in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame or Jordan in the Pro Basketball Hall Of Fame.
Yes, some years of each of those athletes had years of runs where they didn't accomplish as much as they should've given the caliber of talent they had but at the end of the day NO arguing should take place of where they stand amongst the all-time greats.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:55:13 AM
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FFS Hetfield just give Mustaine the credit he deserves!Then maybe just maybe this shit(DethvsMetallica)can be forgotten and Mustaine can finally put it behind himself
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posted by :
11/2/2008 6:00:17 AM
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nice to see somany people here that "know it all"! Ziis, i laughed my ass off reading your posts... assholes.
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COMMENT | i like...
posted by :
11/2/2008 6:02:20 AM
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hetfield, mustain, newsted. all great and ifluential musicians.
honestly who gives a fuck about politics?
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COMMENT | Cliff...
posted by : MetalPause
11/2/2008 6:06:11 AM
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Cliff should not be up on stage. Mostly because he is dead. That would just be awkward.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 6:17:34 AM
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Bob Rock has more of a right than Mustaine to be up there
Eat that bitches!
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COMMENT | egh
posted by : thrashnbash1
11/2/2008 6:34:55 AM
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If this is a cheesy fake HOF that just counts what records you performed on then yes - Mustaine does not deserve to be part of the Metallica ceremony.
If however its about "Metallica" and their music. Well, Mustaine contributed more to their music than Newsted ever did. Hell... half of Metallica's songs off the first 3 albums Mustaine contributed to (some of which he actually got credit for!). Metallica's best stuff was with Mustaine. If there comes a time when they are credited for something with their actual music then give Mustaine his props. He helped make their music... not Newsted.
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COMMENT | ^^^^^^
posted by :
11/2/2008 6:48:16 AM
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God!!!!!!!! He has only 4 writing credits on KEA, and 2 on RTL Stop spewing bullshit. Mustaine has never claimed anything else, why should his fans do it? Really so insecure about Mustaines writing? The only thing Mustaine has ever claimed outside of that had to do with Lepper Messiah which James and Kirk said was utter bullshit.
Who you gonna trust?
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COMMENT | Mustaine didnt
posted by :
11/2/2008 6:49:21 AM
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write f**ck all for Ride the lightning and next to nothing off of Kill em all, He contributed a very small part of the first album. Where you kiddies get your info is beyond me.
Mustaine was in the band for 11 months.
Metallica were a million times better of without him. He's a been a litle baby about it, since being tossed on his druken ass a million years ago.
He's yet to put out a record of the same calibur as any of the Metallica records. Peace sells was there only decent album
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COMMENT | plihtari
posted by : mortalfungus
11/2/2008 6:59:22 AM
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So they used his riffs, but he didn't write the songs?
I can agree he didn't ARRANGE, but he definitely write them.
Mustaine probably wrote most of the riffs on the songs he co-wrote, and surely Hammett COPIED his solos note-by-note on each K.E.A. song.
And remember, history is always written by the winners...I'm sure they didn't erase him from songwriting credits just because "No life till leather" was a well known testimony to his contribution.
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COMMENT | kdavies
posted by :
11/2/2008 7:11:11 AM
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You my friend are a fucking moron.
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COMMENT | Mustaine and his contribution
posted by : Eragon
11/2/2008 7:21:38 AM
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Considering that they used his ideas for their first TWO albums, which were one of those defining thrash metal, they proved that he was more than just "a guitarist" from their non-album era. I really believe, that his contribution was mostly in the area of creating a new guitar playing approach, songwriting. In my opinion, this is the crucial thing for them and it DESERVES to be honoured. They really should reconsider inviting him!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 7:23:12 AM
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Hetfield is turning into a complete shit head, I use to think he was the level headed one who kept situations in perspective.
Looks like time is revealing his true colours and he has consistently become intoxicated on the brown substance that emanates from his own gob hole.
I think Mr Hetfield should just stick to his daily shopping routine in the pretentious places for conceited arseholes.
Its pretty obvious that James has a problem with Dave still after all these years, only an idiot would deny that. As would the idiot deny that Dave deserves credit where credit is due and its written in black & white on those inlay cards for the albums you treasure so dearly.
Yeah, fully agree with 'mortalfungus' history is written by winners, thats exactly why there is so many lies that become facts in public sheep eyes.
There would be no debate at all if there was no truth to the fact that Dave contributed so much to the primordial creativity of Metallica.
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COMMENT | Mustaine should be inducted.
posted by : fatjimmorrison
11/2/2008 7:23:57 AM
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He contributed way more to Metallica than Newsted or Rob and can you imagine him sharing a stage from Kirk and Lars... that would be priceless. But what it all comes down to is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a crock of shit.
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COMMENT | I think...
posted by : slaughterhouse
11/2/2008 7:30:18 AM
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its funny how everyone thinks they know what happened behind closed doors. Frankly, no one in here was there when shit was being written, everyone is just going off of credit in the sleeves which doesn't say much. Mustaine is fucking great, Metallica is great, newstead is great...his bass lines are great and I'm sure he wrote those himself even though he didn't contribute to core song structure, obviously he wrote his parts...The Black album is a great example of how a rythmn section should sound...They may not be the best musicians individually, but collectivly they make the Metallica sounds which is fucking great!
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COMMENT | Both bands
posted by : slaughterhouse
11/2/2008 7:33:54 AM
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are the shit!!!!! The Trash metal movement is monumental in the shaping of heavy metal!
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COMMENT | wow
posted by :
11/2/2008 7:35:18 AM
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all u guys who say, dave should be inducted as well are all fucking retarded and deserved to be shot for stupidity.
and the dumbass who said, that he deserves to be inducted cuz he played on the metal massacre compilation, wow fucking wow, first that wasn't even a metallica record.
25 years since YOUR first record.
wow i hope u all u dumbasses and ur dumb post choke on shit and die
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COMMENT | i like both bands
posted by :
11/2/2008 7:36:29 AM
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but i think James is right this time
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : slaughterhouse
11/2/2008 7:37:13 AM
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Its funny how upset peeps get about someones opinions...
"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink"
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COMMENT | lol
posted by :
11/2/2008 7:37:48 AM
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a bit of advice, PLEASE MAKE SENSE
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 7:51:16 AM
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They should dig up Cliff's corpse and prop him on stage. He deserves to be there! He was on a recoorrrrddd!!!
To be honest, they should have every ex-Metallica member up there. They all contributed to the band in some way. Even Ron McGovney.
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COMMENT | But...
posted by : slaughterhouse
11/2/2008 7:54:40 AM
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If you can only get into the HOF 25 years after your FIRST recording, then only the peeps from 27 years ago should be up there! That would be James, Kirk, Lars, Jason, Rob and Cliff's dead body...
And to that fact...shouldn't Bob Rock be up there as he was the one that played bass on St. Anger??? lol
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COMMENT | I own most of Metallica's CDs
posted by : MetalPause
11/2/2008 8:29:29 AM
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Can I be up on stage as well, because I help contribute to their success??!
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COMMENT | It's A Sham
posted by :
11/2/2008 8:49:27 AM
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The Way They Induct & The Circus That Follows It. HOF Should B Respected But It's Not With The Way It's Run. James & Lars Have The Ultimate Say B/C It's Their Band. If They Still Have A Problem With Dave Then So, B It. Black Sabbath Did That 2 Dio B/C Ozzy Had A Problem With Him. Anyways It's Time 2 Celebrate That The Greatest Band Of All Time Is Getting In!!!! METAL UP YOUR ST. ANGRY ASS!!!! St. Anus Still Kicks Ass!!!!
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COMMENT | ADCS
posted by :
11/2/2008 8:58:12 AM
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To the ADCS idiot who posted:
"But really, who cares? Metallica, for years, has been an irrelevant band in the metal world. Even they couldn't give a shit. They're getting paid"
---irrelevent? Latest CD - #1, Top 25 in catalog sales for several cd's - Metallica, packed arena tours for the past 20 years - Metallica. Do you think EVERY hard rock band does this?
You have no idea what's going on, do you? Maybe you don't like them, which is fine, but to claim they are "irrelevent" and that they "don't care" is ignorant. To be recognized for 25 years worth of effort is HUGE in the entertainment industry, which is damn near impossible to succeed in. Even YOU would be giddy to get employee of the month just once.
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COMMENT | It's kinda refreshing
posted by : VelveetaRevolver
11/2/2008 9:03:23 AM
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that Hetfield is going public to say that Jason should get recognition for the Hall of Fame. On the other hand, it's almost a 180 from the way they made fun of him in "Some Kind of Monster" when MTV did that Icon thing, saying how "Jason lost his icon status when he left Metallica." Now that was fucking stupid. But hopefully, Jason will be able to stand on stage with his former bandmates with a sense of good grace.
As for the Blondie thing, I totally missed what happen. Can someone clue me in on that one?
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 9:28:53 AM
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First off, let it be known I'm a huge Metallica fan, but here's how I feel about it.
With absolutley no disrespect to Rob, but he gets all this reconigion by MTV Icon a few years back, and now the HOF as being a part of Metallica. Granted he is, but when MTV Icon gonored them, St. Anger was still as fresh as a new pair of underwear. He's been there for 2 albums. I agree he should get credit where credit is due, but Newstead should get more credit then Rob and Dave, cuz he was there longer.
And in addition to Newsted, Cliff Burton should be included. For as we all know, whether you like or dislike Metallica, Burton was an influential bassist.
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COMMENT | DAMN RIGHT!
posted by :
11/2/2008 9:36:21 AM
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Mustaine wasnt that important for Metallica as some people want to think!!
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COMMENT | Nutty statements about Mustaine being Metallica...
posted by : SweiitConcorkill
11/2/2008 9:53:56 AM
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He had nothing to do with Master of Puppets... an album often considered by critics as the best metal album ever written. Anyone who says the best songs were on Kill 'Em All and Ride The Lightning is out of their mind.
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COMMENT | Cliff should be included?
posted by : SweiitConcorkill
11/2/2008 9:55:01 AM
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How are you going to include him on stage? He died 22 years ago.
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COMMENT | I highly doubt...
posted by :
11/2/2008 10:08:57 AM
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... That Dave would care anyway.
Oh, wait...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 10:23:39 AM
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dont think anyone would have considered dave... wadu james wanna start some shit
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COMMENT |
posted by : Steve Guttenberg
11/2/2008 10:45:37 AM
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well, honestly without DAVE MUSTAINE, I don't think ridethelightning or killemall would be the same.
He had alot to do with the start of metallica.
BUT he isn't on any actual officail release by metallica, so its hard to say.
IM sure if metallica gets put in they won't have any part of DAVE
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COMMENT | LordofSalem
posted by :
11/2/2008 10:49:16 AM
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Rob never played on Shit Anger, he came in after it was recorded. If I am not mistaken the producer played the bass on Shit Anger.
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COMMENT | 4 horns to Jason
posted by :
11/2/2008 10:51:14 AM
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Jason should be there. Maybe they can mend their differences and find a way to get Jason back in the band. Ever since he left seeing Metallica without him is a tragedy in itself. I love the work Jason has done with VoiVod but since VoiVod seems to have the original line-up back together this is a perfect time to have Lars and James knock the chip off their shoulders and apoligize and praise the work Jason has done fot the band.
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posted by :
11/2/2008 10:53:37 AM
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Dave should be in there for megadeth once 25 is up
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COMMENT | Newsted
posted by : RiotAct666
11/2/2008 10:59:22 AM
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SHOULD be apart of this. he's been in the band way much more years than mustaine.
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COMMENT | Plain and Simple
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:02:24 AM
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Newsted belongs on stage with Metallica.
Dave Mustaine does not.
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COMMENT | Fuck that
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
11/2/2008 11:07:26 AM
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I think if James thinks Dave shouldn't be inducted, then Metallica should remove all the songs Dave wrote off the future copies of the CDs.
Dave was important enough for Metallica to use his material to further their careers, but when it comes time to give credit.....James and Lars turn into the glory hogs.
Although we all know the REAL reason Metallica is gonna be inducted.....the ULTIMATE SELL-OUT aka The Black Album. If not for the album made entirely for soccer moms, high school jocks, and kids who thought Slayer were too heavy.....the media wouldn't have given 2 shits about them.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:18:41 AM
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Megadeth will never get into the hall of fame. Never.
Dave should right a song condeeming the HOF just like he did the U.N. (but maybe not get his politics blurry on the same album again :)
MTV Icon was meaningless anyway, who cares, do other metal bands really aspire to become an MTV Icon?
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COMMENT | re: Jason deserves to be on the stage & PERMANENTLY w/ Metallica
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:20:25 AM
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No disrespect to Rob, BUT He DOESN'T fit with Metallica at all! Jason was the heart of the band & kept the band from dying after Cliff's tragic death. James & Lars need to pull their heads out of their asses and apologize for the shitty way that they treated Jason for all of those years!
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COMMENT | Just a thought:
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:23:50 AM
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Jason had three writing credits in four albums with Metallica: Blackened, My Friend of Misery, and Where the Wild Things Are.
He wrote the lyrics (and probably a lot of the music) for every song on the one album he did with Flotsam and Jetsam, "Doomsday for the Deceiver". He also has three writing credits on their second album, even though he didn't play on it.
Something's up with that. I hope he goes to the ceremony though, it'd be nice to see him in public again.
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posted by : weinerdog
11/2/2008 11:25:26 AM
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I like 'em both, but there is NO WAY Megadeth ever gets in the Hall of Fame.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:35:08 AM
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It's pretty simple, Dave was not in the band when any of the albums were recorded, hence he doesn't belong in the RRHOF with them. Does Diane Warren get inducted with Aerosmith because she wrote one of their songs? No.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:36:26 AM
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If it wasn't for Mustaine there would be no Metallica. If there was no Metallica that means no Megadeth. Who fuckin cares both are great bands. Megadeth's first album is still the greatest.
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COMMENT | I agree with James on this.....
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:38:45 AM
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....Dave does not belong up there with the band, Jason does. Jason getting up there and being inducted alongside his former bandmates and actually showing up is all on Jason himself. That's his decision to be at the ceremony. Cliff will be posthumously inducted since he's been gone over 22 years now and he's done some awesome work with the band. Jason was in the band for 14 years of the bands 28 year career. Now Rob has been in the band for the last 5 years but has only recorded on Death Magnetic. Producer Bob Rock I think should be up there as well because it was he who recorded bass on St. Anger, NOT Rob Trujillo. Cliff from Kill 'Em All to Ride The Lightning and thats 5-6 years right there, Jason on Justice to S&M and that's 14 years, Bob on St. Anger for 2 years, Rob in the band and touring in 5 years with one album, grand total is 27 years of recordings, its time they get inducted no matter what! Jason should be up there with the band as should be Bob Rock. They both recorded with the band, they both were in the band for a time in each of their lives.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:39:37 AM
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Dave did write part of Whiplash, which I don't see credit for on here. That's 5 songs and half of the entire Kill Em All album. Also, he wrote all the solos for it. He wrote two songs on Ride the Lightning and still had his solos used on those.
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COMMENT | What about Bob Rock?
posted by : profmacdaddy
11/2/2008 11:50:49 AM
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Shouldn't he be inducted, too? He played on that great album St. Anger!
Others are so right that Mustaine should be inducted. He DID appear on two albums as a writer - on two of the band's best albums. He wrote more music that Newsted. Essentially, the band treated Newsted like a hired gun while Mustaine wrote the band's early music that changed the face of metal forever!!
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COMMENT | rac1965
posted by :
11/2/2008 11:59:53 AM
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I know he didn't, but he came into the band right around that time.
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COMMENT | That was just wrong to say / ask?
posted by : blabbermeth
11/2/2008 12:06:23 PM
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Can't slight James for anything he was just answering a question. Go figure someone from Rolling Stone asking that stupid fucking question. That's like asking Dave Mustaine if Megadeth ever gets into the RNRHOF will Kerry King be up there jamming, just saying b/c Kerry was in the band for 2 minutes.
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COMMENT | Megadeth Inducted
posted by :
11/2/2008 12:11:50 PM
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Its gonna be priceless seeing dave on stage with like 20 guys when megadeth gets inducted.
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COMMENT | TruthIsParamount
posted by :
11/2/2008 12:41:32 PM
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Mustaine did not play on Metal Massacre I. It was Lloyd Grant.
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COMMENT | I see it like this vvvv
posted by :
11/2/2008 1:11:27 PM
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Helfield is dissing Mustain.
Mustain on the other hand has no balls to diss James in return, so instead he just ends up dissing Kirk (a'ka "I banged his girlfriend") or imitating Lars.
:)
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COMMENT | ^^^^
posted by :
11/2/2008 1:13:12 PM
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s/Mustain/Mustaine/g of course
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COMMENT | Hetfield sounds like a complete douchebag!
posted by : If I die tomorrow
11/2/2008 1:27:27 PM
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Maybe Kerry King should be inducted because
"My Apocalypse" is a complete Slayer ripoff!
And the only really good song on the new album.
Hail Mustaine.
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COMMENT | CaptainFantastik
posted by : If I die tomorrow
11/2/2008 1:40:47 PM
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You forgot:
Peace sells(considered as one of the best thrash albums ever)
&
So far,So good,So what!
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COMMENT | CaptainFantastik
posted by : If I die tomorrow
11/2/2008 1:46:02 PM
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Britney sells a lot more than Megadeth too so her music must be better right?
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COMMENT |
posted by : HQNC
11/2/2008 2:13:37 PM
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I see lots of users here are easliy influenced. You all go for the titles and not for the article itself. I find it really funny to read some comments saying "I just lost my respect for James" or "Hetfield is such a douchebag!" LOL He was never disrespectful towards Mustaine here. You just didn't read the interview did you? Get you chance here, kids:
Hetfield: "Everyone that played on a record should be there. You're considered for the Hall 25 years after your first recording, not after you formed."
Rolling Stone: That would omit Dave Mustaine [former METALLICA guitarist and current MEGADETH mainman].
Hetfield: "He wasn't on a record.
So... get your facts right please.
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COMMENT | Fucking...
posted by : slaughterhouse
11/2/2008 2:22:42 PM
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Hilarious.........So Bob Rock should be up there since he recorded the bass parts for St. Anger!!!!!
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COMMENT | mustaine
posted by :
11/2/2008 3:10:50 PM
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mustaine was with the band including writing and performing till they got a record deal he was in the begginging credited for the most rememerable songs form the first cd and im sure participated more then hetfield would ever know when they ran out of his material after master they started to suck and i think newsted hated hetfield so he wants nothing to do with it
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COMMENT | Oh christ
posted by :
11/2/2008 4:19:33 PM
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The shit will be stirred again. It doesn't matter if Mustaine goes or not, he'll bitch either way.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Grusome
11/2/2008 4:49:35 PM
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fuck the rock n roll hall of fame what a load of bullshit if i was in a band that they considered i would tell them to fuck off and die
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COMMENT | TruthIsParamount
posted by :
11/2/2008 4:53:24 PM
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"Guess who co-wrote 'Kill 'Em All' and 'Ride the Lightning'?
That's right: Dave Mustaine!
Don't be an ungracious, ungrateful asshole and have some class. Mustaine has way earned to be inducted alongside you."
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Mustaine didn't co-write "Kill 'Em All" and "Ride The Lightning". He has a handful of writing credits on the two albums. If you take away the few songs that Mustaine has credits for, Metallica is in the exact same place today without those songs. Mustaine has nothing to do with the success of Metallica. If he's so talented, maybe he can work on getting his own band into the Hall Of Fame. And, did you really just call James an asshole and suggest that he have some class, while prasing Mustaine in the same breath? You're confused, to say the least.
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COMMENT | I'm glad...
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:07:53 PM
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...that they kicked Mustaine out. Otherwise he wouldn't have held the same anger that gave us 'Rust in Peace'
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COMMENT |
posted by : Chris Lester
11/2/2008 5:30:35 PM
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Dave Mustaine can guzzle all the cum in the world.
Metallica>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Megadeth
Allways has, allways will.
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COMMENT | If someone already posted this....
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:49:58 PM
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forgive me 'cuz I'm not about to read everyone's posts. Having said that, James is an idiot. Robert Trujillo should be inducted 'cuz he played on Death Magnetic??? Why stop there? Let's induct Michael Kamen & the ENTIRE San Francisco Symphony for playing on S&M. Why stop there? Let's induct ALL the guest players on Metallica's version of Tuesday's Gone from Garage Inc. Ooooh, even BETTER....Bob Rock 'cuz he played bass on St. Anger. Go back to drinking Lames Shlepfield & sucking off Lars. It works better for you.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 5:56:40 PM
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I can't believe people are slamming Newsted for not contributing much in terms of songwriting. He wanted to write stuff, it's just that those control freaks Hetfield and Ulrich wouldn't let him, or give his contributions the time of day.
Just look at Newsted's explanation of 'My Friend Of Misery' on the black album 'classic albums' episode, as a perfect example of how he had no say in things.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/2/2008 6:40:51 PM
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i think Dave should be honoured in some way, because he did help write parts of their early songs, and was in the band and helped them to get noticed by the record labels to even get a deal in the first place. even if they dont officially name him with the honour, i think James or Lars should mention him and his contributions in their speech or something
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COMMENT |
posted by : StillBornBornBornBorn
11/2/2008 9:50:10 PM
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It doesn't matter and I doubt Dave cares as Megadeth will no doubt be inducted in a couple of years anyway.
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COMMENT | You knew this talkback would be fucking HUGE.
posted by :
11/3/2008 12:13:38 AM
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But Dave really has no reason to be up there. He was never on a Metallica album. He helped write a bunch of the early songs, but he was out of the band before the first album even came out. It will be cool to see Jason with them up there though.
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COMMENT | Why Dave will be never part of the HOF?
posted by : flangerzone08
11/3/2008 12:50:32 AM
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Why? for simple reason.
James Hetfield tasted the fist of Dave Mustaine.
Dont say anything about my PITBULL.
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COMMENT | This is hilarious....
posted by :
11/3/2008 2:09:03 AM
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There's a reasaon blabbermouth posterss are stereotyped the way they are, and the people swinging from mustaine's nuts over this article do nothing but support that stereotype of blabbermouth posters being the dumbest people in the world that have internet access.
FACT: Dave mustaine NEVER played on a comercially available metallica track. Even the metal massacre album featuring hit the lights has lloyd grant playing lead.
FACT: Dave mustaine contributed to six...only SIX metallica songs out of 100+, and only ONE of those [four horsemen] has been a staple of their live set.
FACT: Newsted contributed more to metallica than mustaine. It's not all about songwriting credits. Jason was a HUGE part of the metallica live show [which they sorely miss] and was THE connection to the fans. Mustaine yapped between songs and was always an asshole.
FACT: Metallica would be where they are with or without mustaine.
Mustaine had no hand in master of puppets [no matter what anyone might whine about over lepper messiah], considered the best metal album ever and had no hand in the black album, the album that broke metallica into historic status.
FACT: Dave mustaine does NOT deserve hall of fame status with metallica. He deserves it for megadeth
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COMMENT | ^^^^^
posted by :
11/3/2008 3:07:32 AM
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100% agree. nice one
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COMMENT | Cool!!!
posted by : meanvenusj
11/3/2008 8:30:24 AM
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That is so awesome that they are going to let Bob Rock in since he played bass on St. Anus. NICE!!!
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COMMENT | Mustaine not dedicate to the band
posted by :
11/3/2008 9:02:16 AM
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I don't care how much Mustaine supposedly contributed to the band (It seems Cliff was more responsible for the early sound than Dave - the sound changed when Cliff died, not when Dave left), the simple fact is, at that point in his life, he was not dedicated to the music. That didn't change until half-way through Megadeth's life cycle.
Anyone who thinks Dave had any meaningful contribution to either Ride or MOP is living in a dreamland. Those two albums are light years ahead of Kill em All.
On a side note, I love how people who consider Metallica irrelevant take the time to post about them. How irrelevant are they if you still read and comment on articles about them?
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COMMENT | WTF
posted by :
11/3/2008 10:45:47 PM
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Mustaine and Burton were the chief song writers in Metallica. Without them there is no amazing first 4 albums. Mustaine's stuff was used up through Master of Puppets and I believe the last of Burton's stuff was used on Justice. Dave has every right to be on the HOF stage with them But I hope he would turn them down if asked. Even though it would be an inkling of an apology for what they borrowed/stole from him.
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COMMENT | Attila_S2C
posted by :
11/4/2008 1:15:33 PM
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Hey Attila_S2C, next time you decide to post, at least have the correct info on hand. You'll find you wont embarrass yourself as much, such as you just have.
The chief songwriter in metallica has ALWAYS been james hetfiled. Dave contributed to only SIX songs off of their first 2 albums. Cliff's contributions, along with his songwriting credits, were mainly harmonies and melodies.
NO mustaine material was used on puppets and the burton material used on ajfa were the lyrics to "to live is to die"
Dave has NO right to be on the HOF stage with metallica
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