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CREAM's JACK BRUCE Says He Was Joking About LED ZEPPELIN — Or Was He? - Nov. 5, 2008
Jack Bruce of CREAM was in London Monday night (November 3) at the Marshall Classic Rock Roll Of Honour to accept the award for "Classic Album" for CREAM's "Disraeli Gears". Bruce told Classic Rock magazine at the event, "Everybody talks about LED ZEPPELIN, and they played one fucking [reunion] gig [at London's O2 in December 2007] — one fucking lame gig — while CREAM did weeks of gigs; proper gigs, not just a lame gig like ZEPPELIN did, with all the [vocal] keys lowered and everything. We played everything in the original keys. [Becoming animated]: Fuck off, ZEPPELIN, you're crap. You've always been crap and you'll never be anything else. The worst thing is that people believe the crap that they're sold. CREAM is 10 times the band that LED ZEPPELIN is."

This morning (Wednesday, November 5), Jim Johnson (a.k.a. J.J.) and Lynne Woodison of the Detroit rock station 94.7 WCSX called Jack at his home in London gave him an opportunity to clarify his comments.

"I was just having some fun with the press gallery, really," he said. "[I was being] fairly tongue in cheek, but it's also the truth…. I mean, obviously, those gigs that we did are now three years ago, so it's ancient history now. And they did do that gig, but they also hijacked that gig 'cause that was supposed to be a tribute for Ahmet [Ertegun; the late founder of Atlantic Records and mentor to many music icons], and we were going to be playing it, 'cause it was gonna be at the [Royal] Albert Hall, and it was gona be all sorts of people — the [ROLLING] STONES and all sorts of people were going to be playing — but then they kind of hijacked the gig and made it into a ZEPPELIN gig, and Eric [Clapton; CREAM guitarist/vocalist] and me decided that we didn't want to be a part of it — 'cause it moved to the O2, which is a quite large venue in London. And we thought it had gone in the wrong direction for us as a tribute to Ahmet . . . 'Cause we were really happy to be doing it, and it was going to be fun, because Ginger [Baker; CREAM drummer] was going to come from South Africa. And then Eric called me up and said, 'What do you think about doing this now that they're moving it to O2?' And I said, 'Well, I'm not very happy about doing that.' Because I don't really see CREAM in a place like that. We are more of an intimate sort of a band. We don't like playing vast places. The Garden is about our limit."

Bruce continued, "The thing about ZEPPELIN is that obviously it's a little bit of jealousy on my part — or more than a little bit — because the audience was created by CREAM and JIMI HENDRIX… this sort of very large audience… Then ZEPPELIN came along and had a very easy ride in that way. We were the pioneers and pioneers don't always get the recognition they deserve, maybe. But, on the other hand, it was true that they didn't play [the songs at the O2 concert] in the original key, and let's face it: Jimmy Page ain't no Eric Clapton… no matter what anybody thinks. . . I mean, the only decent guy, the one good guy in that band is dead… so what are you gonna do? [Laughs]"

He added, "You know my sense of humor… I have a terrible sense of humor. . . I was just having some fun. The trouble is if you say anything about the establishment… In Britain, you mustn't criticize the Queen or LED ZEPPELIN, basically."

When asked for his opinion on the possibility of LED ZEPPELIN going out on the road with someone other than Robert Plant on vocals, Bruce replied, "Well, I always thought Robert Plant used the wrong kind of fertilizer, anyway, so I think he might be an improvement… I'm just joking. Robert is one of the all-time, if not THE all-time, great rock singer — I'm not in that league; I'm more of a blues-type singer — and good luck to him."

You can listen to Jack Bruce's chat with Jim Johnson and Lynne Woodison at this location.

CREAM performing live at London's Royal Albert Hall in 2005:

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COMMENT |
posted by : Oldskulethrash
11/5/2008 11:18:16 AM

this guy is a loser.

COMMENT | Dont retract Bruce!!!!
posted by : FreedomOfSpeech
11/5/2008 11:19:42 AM

What you said is the truth, dont take it back dammit!

COMMENT | JB
posted by : Blindgreed1
11/5/2008 11:24:50 AM

Has gone senile.

COMMENT | ''In Britain, you mustn't criticize the Queen''
posted by : Metal Gimp
11/5/2008 11:29:37 AM

Fuck the monarchy. oh and can we either abolish the title 'prince of wales' too, some english toff who inherits the title of Prince over a country he interacts with about as much as he would a leper, ah but I digress...

Led Zeppelin sucks! Black Sabbath rule!!!

COMMENT | Eric Clapton...
posted by : Blake Sabbath
11/5/2008 11:38:27 AM

...is quite good..

Meanwhile Jack Bruce sure knows how to blow on that harmonica...

COMMENT |
posted by : King's X Rocks!
11/5/2008 11:39:12 AM

huh

COMMENT | One thing is certainly true.
posted by : manboy21182
11/5/2008 11:43:27 AM

The songs at the zeppelin O2 show were most definately tuned down. Very hard to listen to when you know the albums so well. Plant should hang it up.

COMMENT | Clapton
posted by : Drew Stone
11/5/2008 11:47:10 AM

Is still "God".

and Plant shouldn't do it if he can't hit the notes.

COMMENT |
posted by : agentpatience
11/5/2008 12:19:48 PM

When he says you must not criticize the Queen, is he referring to the actual Queen of England, or the band, or both? I think over there it's probably both.

Regardless, I don't disagree with anything he said really. Clapton IS better. Bonham WAS the best part of the band. The songs WERE tuned down. A tribute IS supposed to be about who you're remembering, not who's playing - See the Wembley Freddie Mercury tribute for proof of that one.

COMMENT | Jack Bruce is the man!
posted by : shattered73
11/5/2008 12:24:48 PM

Cream > Led Zeppellin
The Rolling Stones > Led Zeppellin
Jimi Hendrix>Led Zeppellin
Black Sabbath > Led Zeppellin
Deep Purple > Led Zeppellin

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if DEEP PURPLE got teh respect LED ZEPPELLIN gets and vice versa this world would make a lot more fuckings sense to me.

Deep Purple had a better guitarist (Blackmore, Bolin, Satriani, and Morse all better than Page), better singer (even JLT isn't as grating and still can sing like he used to), better bassist. better drummer, better songs, and JON LORD, a fucking MONSTER on the Hammond!

Zep stole a bunch of songs from blues guys and added whinning.

Bruce was totally right in his comments, even if he was plastered (and when you're drunk the truth comes out). And you'll notice he's not exactly taking it back, he's just being more polite.

CLAPTON > PAGE

COMMENT | It's not like he's wrong.
posted by : Million Dollar Man
11/5/2008 12:29:17 PM

Cream and Hendrix paved the way for that kind of sound. Hell, Sabbath were together and writing heavy shit before Zeppelin had even formed. You can't deny Zeppelin's impact, and it would be stupid to try. But don't pretend that you should be taken seriously if you're going to badmouth Cream or talk about them as if they're nothing.

COMMENT | !!!
posted by : Doros78
11/5/2008 12:36:24 PM

Cream was a great band and so was Zeppelin!! but Cream werent that good live those 2-3 years ago, specialy not clapton. and he all he does is play old blues standards, and then he comes with 1 song every 2-3 years on the charts. he hasnt made a good album since the 70's or early 80's. Page did most of the songs with Zeppelin and produced them, i like him more but Clapton is of course a great guitarist also and even better.

COMMENT |
posted by : madeinquebec
11/5/2008 1:15:36 PM

A little respect, guys.
Plant's sitting on his laurels. End of story.

COMMENT | Lead Zepopoles
posted by : Aunt Thrax
11/5/2008 1:17:05 PM

Deep Purple is an unbelievable band and really deserve much more credit and Queen was innovative with harmonies.

I think Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and Queen and three bands that were more innovative than Led Zepplin.

Eric Clapton was the true talent of Cream, I think Ginger Baker and John Bonham are/were incredible drummers.

COMMENT |
posted by : billybro54
11/5/2008 1:23:12 PM

Bill Ward is the king in my books. I donèt understand however this animosity towards Zeppelin. Ièm not a massive fan but I certainly would never listen to the stones over them,. The Stones are the most overrated right along Hendrix. David Gilmour was the best and is the best and most underrated guitarplayer, Deep Purple, Procal Harum Uriah Heep and ESPECIALLY MOHAGONY RUSH!!!!! But they all had plus and minus attributes. Why do you all despise Zeppelin. Everyone ripped the blues off. everyone.

COMMENT |
posted by : billybro54
11/5/2008 1:23:40 PM

P.S. THE STONES SUCK

COMMENT | shut up
posted by : laggerlugger
11/5/2008 1:34:30 PM

cream made what 2 records that critics love and he thinks Zep is a copy band?the reason Zep has the rep and fan base is they are 10 times the band the band cream were and the songs that Zep made are timeless unlike the drivel cream out out.the only things fans are buying is the fact Zep is the greatest band ever. so you did not want to play the big arena because you aren't that type of band? no you knew nobody would give a flying fuck or remember you even played after Zep took the stage.other than layla what hard rock or metal riffs has clapton ever put down that match page?no he is more known for his blues stuff and tears in heaven than for being a guitar god. honestly where that clapton is god crap came from is beyond me. don't own any cream and have no desire to,everytime I hear a song by them come on the radio I immeditaly turn it off. strange brew was a funny movie but a horrible song!more importantly I don't need some washed up old has been who thinks of himself as rockstar to start sounding like a critic and tell me what music is good. the proof is in the staying power of the music which Zep has it and cream just doesn't.

COMMENT | a little bit of history, please
posted by : franz84ts
11/5/2008 2:13:06 PM

led zeppelin didn't stole anything from cream, cream disbanded after three albums because in 68 they were such junkies (amazing players, but still junkies) that they didn't even listen to each other during gigs, clapton hated the situation, and also because jack bruce hated clapton, yes, the same clapton he's so glad to praise now. bruce's a great bass player and he is(or at least was) a great singer, but he's also an envious dick (as you can see), and since clapton was the star in cream, he was very very pissed off by clapton "stealing" his success.

Now let's talk about this "i sing in the right key and you don't cause you suck!" bullshit.
although i didn't attended their reunion shows, i've seen the dvd and they singed the song in the original key, sure, but most of the time they, and especially bruce, did it AN OCTAVE LOWER (see for example the bridge of "white room"). There's no shame in it (their not in their 20s anymore), but at least have the decency of not calling out plant on the subject!

last but not least, he says that the only good guy in the band is dead, so i have to assume that he thinks that john paul jones is no good... well, that's the icing on his bullshitcake: is he really so delusional that he thinks that he's better than jonesy??? give me a fucking break!

COMMENT | ...
posted by : Pimpin_Like_Sasquatch
11/5/2008 2:21:09 PM

Hairway to Steven by Dread Zeppelin > Cream

COMMENT | Does Jack Bruce..
posted by : Tyrant7
11/5/2008 2:38:20 PM

First off this guy has no right to say anything about Page, Plant or Bonham. They smoke anything that any of the guys in Cream have ever done in their entire lives. But putting that aside for a moment, does Jack Bruce really think that he's a better player, writer or overall musician than John Paul Jones? NO....FUCKING.....WAY!!! If he actually believes that, than he really is FUCKED IN THE HEAD!

Fuck Cream!! Jack makes comments about how the Zeppelin songs were played in a lower key to accommodate Plants vocals but he never mentions how all of the shit cream played on their reunion was like 5 times slower than the way they used to play it. He also says that the Ahmet Benefit concert was stolen by Led Zeppelin but he never mentions how ALL of the proceeds from that concert were given to charity. Were it not for Zeppelin they would have not been able to raise anywhere close to as much as did. I wonder how much money from the Cream reunion did Jack end up giving to charity?

This guy is a jealous douche!

Zeppelin owns! End of story.


COMMENT | "The thing about ZEPPELIN is that obviously it's a little bit of jealousy on my part"
posted by : Scotts_Orange_Juice
11/5/2008 4:42:13 PM

Uh...sounds like a SH*TLOAD a jealously ta me! HHHAHAHHA

However I still prefer LED over CREAM.

COMMENT | billybro54
posted by : shattered73
11/5/2008 5:01:58 PM

>>P.S. THE STONES SUCK

Everyone is welcome to an opinion, but you, sir, are an idiot. The Stones are, were, and always will be the greatest rock n roll band in the world. Sure, they've had their mis-steps - bad songs, bad albums - and I'm not entirely sure which sampling of their work you're basing this opinion on, but for well over forty years these guys have written the most brilliant, infectuous white-boy blues better and more consistently than anyone around.

Their genius lies in interweaving elements of hard rock, psychedelia, reggae, even disco into their music while still remaining a solid r&b based rock n roll band. Nobody does it better and they're STILL doing it. Critics have been announcing the party's over for over twenty years and every time they come back and kick harder.

The Stones ARE rock n roll. You may not have heard much of their stuff, they may not be your favorites, but to try and say they suck is simply avoiding the issue.

The Stones are true musical pioneers and without them a lot of the bands you probably like wouldn't even exist.


P.S. - Judging from the list you provided you seem obsessed with technical virtuosity, of which the Stones are not known for (except the guitar playing of Mick Taylor). But never underestimate the genius of simplicity in rock.

COMMENT |
posted by : DeadSkin Mask
11/5/2008 5:09:53 PM

He raises nothing but valid points.

I agree.
They were a great band, but Led Zeppelin have always been overrated.

Jimmy Page is not even playing in the same league as Clapton.
Find me a real guitar plyer who dissputes this.

COMMENT | Tyrant7
posted by : mfiasco
11/5/2008 5:13:12 PM

As a matter of fact, Jack Bruce is indeed a better bass player than John Paul Jones. No knock on Jonesy, but the only bassist better than Jack Bruce ever is John Entwistle.

COMMENT | Led Zeppelin
posted by : mfiasco
11/5/2008 5:18:27 PM

Old school musician like the guys in Cream resented Zeppelin because they stole from the old blues guys and never gave them songwriting credits. Page even stole from his own band, the Yardbirds. The bassline in How Many More Times was a direct ripoff from the Yardbirds version of Smokestack Lightning, which had Eric Clapton on lead guitar. The Yardbirds should have been huge.

COMMENT | He's gotta lotta nerve...lol
posted by : Kissfan77
11/5/2008 5:24:52 PM

Jack, you're band may have come and gone before zeppelin but at least they got along...you guys were together 3 years. Clapton isn't that hard to get along with. the reason that reunion took so long as because of you. bottom line is history dictated that zeppelin was better than cream overall. Clapton is the first best white blues guitarist. Zeppelin...the band speaks for itself...bonham, page and plant...Jones wrote some damn good material...basically that's not my time and i have all their records but only a best of from Cream...nuff said.

COMMENT | mfiasco
posted by : DeadSkin Mask
11/5/2008 5:25:08 PM

Another incident when Page recycled Yardbirds material into a Led Zeppelin song is White Summer / Black Mountain Side.

COMMENT | Tyrant7
posted by : john dee
11/5/2008 5:26:10 PM

To add further to what mfiasco posted above, Jack Bruce is actually a much better writer and at least the equal of John Paul Jones as an overall musician. He is also classically trained with jazz experience, and plays keyboards and cello in addition to bass. He's also a fantastic singer. Check out some of his early solo albums to hear all of these talents on display, in addition to some of the lesser known Cream album cuts. Jack's abilities go way beyond the Cream hits that he's known for. As I've said before, Bruce was the real genius in Cream.

COMMENT |
posted by : Heliotropic Rose
11/5/2008 6:55:54 PM

You can't be much more rock and roll than a Rolling Stones album up until about 1977. My personal fave - well, its a toss up between "Beggar's Banquet" or "It's Only Rock and Roll"

COMMENT |
posted by : gunnarcannibal
11/5/2008 7:57:37 PM

John Paul Jones is better than JACK BRUCE and YOU!

COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666
11/5/2008 9:22:04 PM

Both bands are great. just leave it as that.

COMMENT | No Riot Act,I'm finally going to disagree with you
posted by : annarocket
11/5/2008 11:39:54 PM

Bro,as much as I respect you,he was talking out of turn. If he wants to sit at the pub all night and piss and moan that Zepp isn't anywhere close to Cream,fine.
But in the forum he chose to air his personal grievance,it was just tasteless,and made him look like he had sour grapes big time. This was neither the place or the time to be talking that smack.It was tasteless and out of order.If it wasn't.why did he backpedle the next day?
I love Cream,but I love Zepp more and I thought the whole thing was in extremely poor taste.


COMMENT |
posted by : jcdc
11/6/2008 12:09:19 AM

This is just the fodder Plant needs to get off his ass, tour the fucking world one more time.

You watch.


Plant will rejoin because of this.

COMMENT | Fuck Led Zepplin
posted by : sodden_jackal
11/6/2008 12:42:41 AM

"""""Now let's talk about this "i sing in the right key and you don't cause you suck!" bullshit.
although i didn't attended their reunion shows, i've seen the dvd and they singed the song in the original key, sure, but most of the time they, and especially bruce, did it AN OCTAVE LOWER (see for example the bridge of "white room"). There's no shame in it (their not in their 20s anymore), but at least have the decency of not calling out plant on the subject!""""""


yes but robert plant always sang in his upper register to show off and to sound like a GIRL!!! listen to THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME the official live LZ album as opposed to LZ: the BBC sessions......not too many years apart yet plant still had his voice (somewhat) on the BBC Sessions whereas PLANT sang an an octave or two LOWER than he did on the studio albums. some singers can pull it off but not the ones who constantly sang at their ceiling as plant did. not only did LZ tune down for their "one off gig" but plant still didn't sound right. factor that into your illogic.


i like some LZ but for the most part fuck them!

Black Sabbath>LZ
too many to mention>LZ

LZ=totally over-rated live musicians and all too self-important.

COMMENT | clarification
posted by : sodden_jackal
11/6/2008 12:45:13 AM

".......whereas PLANT sang an an octave or two LOWER on THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME than he did on the studio albums."

COMMENT |
posted by : ...and the winds blew death
11/6/2008 3:59:41 AM

Isnt Jack kind of contradicting himself on Robert Plant? First he says Bonham was the only decent band member and then he says Plant is one of the all-time great singers...and better than himself.

COMMENT | Fact:
posted by : meanvenusj
11/6/2008 11:16:37 AM

Cream and Zeppelin > anything released in 15 years

COMMENT | Jack Ass
posted by : Raoul Duke 66
11/7/2008 5:33:44 AM

Let's so not compare Eric "Play in the box" C with Pagey. God gets shredded. Let's all fess up to rampant narco abuse and admit we were always a bit hasty in thinking Eric was special. Jimi and Jimmy had the magic. pete and our boy were left pissing their panties in spasmic fear. Like watching 16 year olds on Youtube break all the rules...So, lets keep things in context and not talk to ooold rockers that missed their medis...


COMMENT |
posted by : diefortacos
11/9/2008 12:22:27 AM

there's a big difference between criticising and slandering, you jealous ponce

COMMENT |
posted by : zepfan43
11/11/2008 11:02:30 PM

COMMENT | ''In Britain, you mustn't criticize the Queen''
posted by : Metal Gimp
11/5/2008 11:29:37 AM


Fuck the monarchy. oh and can we either abolish the title 'prince of wales' too, some english toff who inherits the title of Prince over a country he interacts with about as much as he would a leper, ah but I digress...

Led Zeppelin sucks! Black Sabbath rule!!!

Metal gip,

I like some of Sabbaths studio work however they're and have always been a one-dimensional band. Most adults don’t worship Black Sabbath although a few songs still sound good when played at the proper time and place.

BTW, I saw them at the LA Coliseum the band could’ve had an off day because they were awful and gave me a headache. The music if you could call it that sounded like a big glob of distorted crap and they weren’t even headlining the event Cheap Trick was headline.

How’s that for Sabbath rules dork?


COMMENT |
posted by : zepfan43
11/11/2008 11:24:25 PM


"Good Times Bad Times" "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You"
"Dazed and Confused" "Your Time Is Gonna Come"
"Communication Breakdown" "How Many More Times"
"Ramble On" "Moby Dick" "Bring It On Home" "Whole Lotta Love "What Is and What Should Never Be"
"The Lemon Song" "Thank You" "Immigrant Song"
"Since I've Been Loving You" "Gallows Pole"
"Tangerine" "That's the Way" "Black Dog"
"Rock and Roll" "Stairway to Heaven" "Misty Mountain Hop" "Going to California" "When the Levee Breaks" The Song Remains the Same" "The Rain Song"
"Over the Hills and Far Away" "D'yer Mak'er"
"No Quarter" "The Ocean" "Custard Pie" "The Rover"
"In My Time of Dying" "Trampled Under Foot" "Kashmir" "In the Light" "Down by the Seaside" "Ten Years Gone" "The Wanton Song"
"Black Country Woman" "Achilles Last Stand"
"For Your Life" "Nobody's Fault But Mine" "Hots On for Nowhere" "Tea for One" "In the Evening"
"South Bound Saurez" "Fool in the Rain"
"Carouselambra" "All My Love" "Ozone Baby" "Darlene"
"Bonzo's Montreux" "Wearing and Tearing"
"Traveling Riverside Blues" "Hey Hey What Can I Do"



Robert Plant
Jimmy Page
John Bonham
John Paul Jones

ZEPPELIN #1






COMMENT |
posted by : zepfan43
11/11/2008 11:38:58 PM

COMMENT | billybro54
posted by : shattered73
11/5/2008 5:01:58 PM


>>P.S. THE STONES SUCK

Everyone is welcome to an opinion,

>>P.S You suck

And stuff your lame ass one about Led Zeppelin in your crusty old rear!




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