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SLAYER's TOM ARAYA On New METALLICA Album, OBAMA's Election Victory
- Nov. 17, 2008
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Austrian heavy 'zine Stormbringer.at conducted an interview with bassist/vocalist Tom Araya of the California thrash metal veterans SLAYER prior to the band's November 16, 2008 concert in Vienna, Austria. Watch the 24-minute chat below. During the interview, Araya was asked if he has heard METALLICA's new album, "Death Magnetic", and what he thinks of it. "You don't wanna know," Araya replied. "I heard the album. That's all you wanna know. I heard the album… That's why when they [the SLAYER management] said, 'We wanna release this [new SLAYER song], 'Psychopathy Red'.' And this is after listening to the [ METALLICA] album. I'm like, 'Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Let's release this song and give it away, because at least the fans will know what they're getting with our album.' [Laughs] I'm being serious. When I heard the METALLICA album, it didn't appeal to me at all. And all I could think about was, 'Man, what happened?' And then they wanted to record three songs to help sell the tour, that we're working on new material, and I'm like, I thought it was a great idea to release this song. Because people then can have something to compare something to — [show them] that Rick [ Rubin, SLAYER and METALLICA producer] still has it. It wasn't Rick. And that was kind of a way to show people, 'Hey, it's not Rick Rubin. It's the band. It's what the band brings to the table. People are always comparing albums. So now they have something that they can compare it to. And they know that this is what they're gonna be getting with our record. You're gonna be getting SLAYER." On the topic of Barack Obama's election victory and whether he thinks Obama will be able to deliver on all the promises he has made, Araya said, "I think that he'll be able to do whatever it is that the House of Representatives and the Senate allow him to do. He's only the President — they're the ones who vote on things. So if he says, 'I want this to pass' and he gives it to them. And, say, some of them don't agree with him. They don't really like what he's doing anyways. 'You know what? I'm gonna vote 'No' on this.' You know what I mean? And the Democrats have the majority in both the Congress and the Senate — they have the majority. Now we're gonna find out who's on his side or not. Because if the majority are all Democrats and he wants to pass a bill, it should pass — 'cause they're all Democracts and they all feel the same way and they all agree. But that's not how it works. Everybody has their own agenda; everybody wants their piece of the pie. So in order for them to get their piece of the pie… or in order for the President to get his piece, 'I wanna write this in because I want my piece.' So they start adding things to bills. This will tell [us] if the Democrats are really with him — if this was all really because they wanted change or was it just because they wanted to vote a black man in as President. I can tell you this: he's not dumb; he's a pretty smart guy. It really depends on the people on the Congress and the Senate, whether they're gonna allow him to do the things that he wants to do. I can tell you what's really freaky and weird about him — everybody was celebrating that he won, [but] nobody knows him. All over the world, all over the world — people were celebrating that he won. But nobody knows him. He's been a Senator for two years. Never really accomplished much as a Senator. He has done stuff, but never really accomplished something as a Senator, [for people] to say, 'Oh, yeah, he did this,' and everybody would know him for that. But the whole world was celebrating. Why? Nobody knows him. But everybody was happy that he became President. Can you explain that to me? Can you explain to me why people here in Vienna would be happy that Barack won, that he won the presidency? Or what would give them reason to celebrate. I can understand in Kenya, I can understand them celebrating, because he's their blood. It doesn't matter how much blood you've got, your Dad's from Kenya, your blood is from Kenya, so they're happy as shit, and I don't blame them. I think that's great. Because that's part of their blood who's now President of the United States. That's their connection to them. But why everybody else? Everybody around the world celebrated that he won, but nobody can tell you why they celebrated. You have to have a reason to celebrate something . . . I found that very strange. The whole world is celebrating [that] this guy [won], and nobody knows him. I read an article [from] a journalist who was with him for 21 months, on the plane with him during the [campaign] — 21 months! — and at the end of the article, [the journalist] said that after traveling with Barack Obama for 21 months, 'I still don't know what kind of a presidency this man will have.' You ever been with someone for roughly two years and not known about them? That was the final statement in that article. He's been with this person for 21 months, and after 21 months, he still couldn't tell you what kind of a president he would be. It's scary. [In two years], you would know. You would have some idea of what kind of person this person is or how he will be as something. That's the strangest thing about this guy — that everybody is celebrating, but nobody knows him." A non-CD-quality version of SLAYER's new track "Psychopathy Red" — which is set to appear on the band's forthcoming album, due out summer 2009 — has surfaced on YouTube and can be streamed below. The Jeff Hanneman-penned song gives a chilling look into the twisted mind of Andrei Chikatilo, a notorious Russian serial killer. The members of SLAYER spent a couple of weeks in a Southern California recording studio last month tracking three new songs, including "Psychopathy Red". SLAYER kicked off the European "Unholy Alliance Tour: Chapter III" on October 27 at the Manchester Apollo in Manchester, England. The trek is scheduled to wrap in Helsinki, Finland on November 27. The band plans to return to the studio early next year to finish recording the new album. Fans who attend any of the upcoming European "Unholy Alliance Tour: Chapter III" dates, will receive "Psychopathy Red" via an exclusive download card that will also include special material from the entire tour's lineup — SLAYER, MASTODON, TRIVIUM and AMON AMARTH. The download card, along with a limited edition "Unholy Alliance Tour" clothing patch, will be given away free only to ticket holders when they arrive at their local venue the night of the show. "The Unholy Alliance Tour" first launched in fall 2004 with a European edition that featured SLIPKNOT, SLAYER, MASTODON and HATEBREED. The venture was so successful, the first North American trek, dubbed "The Unholy Alliance Tour, Chapter II: Preaching to The Perverted", kicked off in summer 2006 with SLAYER, LAMB OF GOD, CHILDREN OF BODOM, MASTODON, and THINE EYES BLEED stomping and screaming its way to 30 U.S. and Canadian cities. The European run of "Unholy Alliance Tour, Chapter II" took place in fall 2006, featuring SLAYER, IN FLAMES, CHILDREN OF BODOM, LAMB OF GOD, and THINE EYES BLEED. Interview: "Psychopathy Red" stream (studio recording):
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posted by : 11/17/2008 4:41:38 PM
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Getting pretty philosophical...
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COMMENT | Agreed Tom!
posted by : 11/17/2008 4:59:22 PM
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What happened to Metallica after Justice. What a shame.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : karlmetalhead 11/17/2008 5:00:19 PM
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"Because people then can have something to compare something to — [show them] that Rick [Rubin, SLAYER and METALLICA producer] still has it. It wasn't Rick. And that was kind of a way to show people, 'hey, it's not Rick Rubin. It's the band. It's what the band brings to the table."
Not really a big fan of Slayer but the dude has a point...
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COMMENT | Shocker
posted by : FadedLineVigil 11/17/2008 5:00:54 PM
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Hey I'm a Slayer fan for sure, but this is pretty obnoxious. Tom's obviously just pissed that Metallica can sell 2 million albums in as many weeks. It's pretty apparent that the majority likes Death Magnetic. It's a great Metallica album, not their best, but the best thing they've done since Justice for sure.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:01:36 PM
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Fuck Tom Araya.
He liked it, you know why? Because he went to great lengths to say he didn't.
He's just pissed because Rick Rubin showed his true colors and Metallica came first, Slayer 2nd....even after all these years.
That's how Araya's comments really read. Don't be fooled. Bitter. W/ a capital B.
Hell, what was HE even expecting from Metallica? Especially considering their track record prior.
That's why I call bullshit, had Rubin NOT been involved, he wouldn't have had a comment.
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COMMENT | What happened?
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:02:30 PM
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Is he on crack? Death Magentic is better then any Slayer album period. I love Slayer but he needs to give a few more spins. I think in his heart he knows he cannot compete so why not just knock it to get attention. The new song by Slayer is just old sounding. They are done in my opinion. The Last Slayer I bought was Divine Intervention. Death Magnetic is a masterpiece. The best metal albums since Justice. If you think different you are wrong.
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posted by : sonicbrutality 11/17/2008 5:03:17 PM
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Will always have those first 4 albums, fuck it.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:09:02 PM
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Again, his comments were focused on Rubin, not the album. Pay attention to what Araya said vs. what he didn't say-
He didn't say: "A couple tracks were ok, I expected more, nice to hear them go back to somewhat of their old form".
HE SAID: "Rubin this, Rubin that, we got 2nd fiddle and basically we sucked it up for Metallica releasing DM? Fuck them."
Even if Death Magnetic were MOP II or Seasons in the Abyss II, his opinion was negative just because of Rubin.
Call Rubin up Tom, he's used to you guys and your "Creative" side, it's easy money for him, he puts his name on shit he even before knows what the next Slayer album will sound like EVEN before you write it......additionally, he probably slept through the last 3 albums Slayer released.
I know I did.
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COMMENT | Psychopathy Red is awful
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:09:53 PM
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If you're going to insult another band, you'd better back it up.
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COMMENT | Araya is right
posted by : JudasRising 11/17/2008 5:12:50 PM
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Death Magnetic is (and sounds like) shit. I haven't heard Psychopathy Red yet, but I sure hope that Slayer does better than Metallica with their next record.
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posted by : sonicbrutality 11/17/2008 5:13:24 PM
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"I kick the bible in a pool of blood so that none of it's lies can affect me" You should all know that this is lyrical poetry from Tom "One Vocal Note" Araya, come on now!
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COMMENT | Slayer hasn't done anything worthwhile in 20 years either
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:15:18 PM
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And are they still doing the same old evil schtick?
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posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend 11/17/2008 5:16:35 PM
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Although it's their best effort since Justice, Tom is pretty much spot on here.
Speaking of Metallica's fanbase it mainly consists of soccer moms and jocks nowadays anyway, as their mainstream approach pretty much alienated their original thrash metal fanbase permanently.
A goddamn shame, really.
RIP Metallica 1983-1989
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:17:07 PM
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Rubin is all about royalties. And no, just because he produces your record doesn't mean it will be good music. With Slayer being towards the end of its lifecyle that can pretty much say what they want and get away with it.
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COMMENT | prezuiwf
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:18:28 PM
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Agreed. Psychopathy Red is pretty bad. Well not bad, but clearly uninspired, forced, and boring. Slayer has sounded the same for a long long time now, and not in a good way. Death Magnetic is a really good album, imo. Not as good as the first 4 (maybe 5) albums, but still very good.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:22:15 PM
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I hate all the "I'm an original Metallica Fan, we all gave up on them after 1989, because we actually think we are someone in some form, and Metallica will always OWE me and my buddies something for releasing the Black Album"
FUcking GET OVER IT. Seriously, HATERs. Why not congratulate a dirty little band that played in dirty little bars, in front of dirty little teens, in dirty San Francisco, who went on to be DIRTY RICH and Successful.
Let's congratulate them for being condusive to change and not getting pigeon-holed as a 1 trick Pony.
Let's congratulate them for introducing "Metal" no matter how you define it, to more people.
No, let's do the opposite and hold them to some unfathomable juvenile standard.
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COMMENT | msheetz
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:22:28 PM
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"Death Magnetic is a masterpiece. The best metal albums since Justice. If you think different you are wrong"
What an absolutely ignorant, ill informed, stupid ass thing to say!
The best part about this argument is that real metal fans have moved on, and the release of Death Magnetic is completely irrelevant. (Remember what Gary Holt said? Akerfeldt?)
Good for them for trying to sound like a metal band again, but there are dozens of other bands, who are not only just as good, but that never went shitty in the first place.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:24:11 PM
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YMOm's best douche-
Hey, I'm a jock, well not really, but I wipe the floor with your ass in ANY SPORT.
And playing guitar and drums. And this and that and everything else.
Take your comments back to your GED class, maybe you'll pass this time.
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COMMENT | Metalisheep
posted by : Blindgreed1 11/17/2008 5:25:37 PM
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You guys crack me up. You don't have a clue. SLAYER \m/!!!
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:27:45 PM
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Kerry King has been quoted as saying Slayer is done pretty soon.
Warning: JOCK reference coming, sheid your eyes hardcore types.
But, in sports, when an athlete talks of "retirement", they already have, even though they are still active. Keep that shit in mind.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:28:57 PM
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By the fucking way, Kerry King wears NHL Hockey jerseys all the time?
Is he a Jock?
Bloody comquats your true "Metalheads" are. Did you vote for Jethro Tull?
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:31:30 PM
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Uh-oh, a true JOCK BOMB coming....
3... 2.. 1.
I love Slayer. I love Sports. I love to read. I love Jeopardy. I love your Mom.
Now you can't like them anymore. Bwhahahahahahah!
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COMMENT | Thats funny...
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:31:49 PM
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because no Slayer album has ever appealed to me....hmmm.
Nobody in this band is worth a shit.
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COMMENT | Mr. Araya
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:36:38 PM
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Nobody knows why people celebrated Barack Obama being elected president.. Well, he gave those people hope for the better.. Now, ask yourself this Tom, why do you celebrate the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ? Well, it should be the same answer man. He gives you hope.
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COMMENT | Nothing To Prove
posted by : Blindgreed1 11/17/2008 5:37:18 PM
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Isn't it ironic (or moronic) that you exemplify the exact opposite of your screen name?
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:45:11 PM
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Pfff, I have to laugh at people suggesting no Slayer album is as good as any Metallica one. The first 5 Slayer albums utterly destroy everything Metallica did after Justice...and Reign in Blood is better than the lot.
DM is a good album hampered by a poor production but the new Slayer track is better than anything off if. Slayer still do with ease what Metallica are trying to re-capture.
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COMMENT | If I hear one more musician spouting their political views..
posted by : Sinical 11/17/2008 5:47:11 PM
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I am going to piss a fucking cinder block. Seriously, who the fuck cares what an old dirtbag from a washed up metal band has to say about politics?
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COMMENT | somebody knows him
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:47:19 PM
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Q - Nobody knows him. Can you explain to me why people here in Vienna would be happy that Barack won?
A - Cuz they did know what his opponent stood for.
:)olc
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COMMENT | So fucking what
posted by : rmwolfe 11/17/2008 5:47:21 PM
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if Metallica sells 2 million and Slayer don't. That doesn't mean shit to me and Tom was just stating his opinion and I agree with him.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 5:48:26 PM
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"Nobody knows why people celebrated Barack Obama being elected president.. Well, he gave those people hope for the better..."
sheep
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COMMENT | Sontaron
posted by : Blindgreed1 11/17/2008 5:49:43 PM
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Word.
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COMMENT | Slayer>Metallica
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:51:40 PM
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Here is how I look at it: Slayer has 5 awesome albums which I love. Metallica has 4 which I love.
Plus, 90's Slayer own Load of Shit and Reload of Shit
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COMMENT | Well....
posted by : ryanpday 11/17/2008 5:51:57 PM
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seems to be if Tom Araya has that much of an opinion about another bands album, he is jealous.
He should concentrate on his own band.
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COMMENT | Jesus
posted by : 11/17/2008 5:52:23 PM
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Slayer. Bitter little fucks who have to live with the fact that the most succesful and important thing that any of them ever did was play a solo on a Beastie Boys track. 22 years ago!!!!! fuckhead.
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COMMENT | One word.....
posted by : metaldauz 11/17/2008 5:55:18 PM
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Sssssssssssssssssslllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
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COMMENT | SUCK
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:02:06 PM
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Slayer couldn't sing their way out of a Walmart!
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COMMENT | well tom does have an opinion
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:04:36 PM
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too bad his music has been the same for a looonnnggg time. i'd prefer something different.
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COMMENT | Comparing Slayer to Metallica is like......
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:06:02 PM
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Comparing my 6 year old son to Albert Pujols. Yeah my boy may the best hitter on his baseball team, but he's only six years old. He's never sniffed the majors and probably won't. This is Slayer, the best little league metal band on Earth. Metallica gets to play in the same league as Sabbath, Zeppelin and Van Halen.
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COMMENT | Ironic
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:06:50 PM
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Isn't it funny how hald the people on this thread bash Metallica for changing their sound and the other half bash Slayer for not changing their sound. Metal is a lose-lose game.
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COMMENT | psychopathy red
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:07:49 PM
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the songs kinda intresting the main theme in the beginning doesn't sound really slayerish sounds moer like some other death metal bands ive heard cause slayer tends to be heavy but it sounds angry not like this but its still pretty good
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COMMENT | slayer rules
posted by : dpslayer 11/17/2008 6:07:49 PM
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im sick of reading all this bullshit, metallica dont exists, their new album is so obvious and they have no ideas
Slayer kickss their ass every fucking album, dave lombardo play metallica with one hand and one feet, and tom araya is the best frontman in metal word, hail slayer
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COMMENT | Dear Tom:
posted by : MetalTimJ 11/17/2008 6:11:31 PM
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1. The new metallica is sweet, so quit trying to hype your own music by dissing metallica. Your fanboys will cheer, but you might annoy those who actually like both bands (like me). 2. The people are excited because of some of Obama's policies such as closing Guantanamo and ending the Iraq War. Nobody knows exactly what type of presidency will ensue due to changing circumstances and the checks and balances via Congress that you mentioned, but the man's policies have been stated for almost 2 yrs. now as he's campaigned for President. 3. Oh, and since you won't say it, I will- some people around the world were excited about Obama cause he's a minority. The reason is that it shows an implicit tolerance in America that eases some of their fears.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 6:12:49 PM
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Where are all the UberSlayer fans?
Again, I love them both. I was just pissed at Araya's comments, from what I have read, Metallica was always Pro-Slayer. Always.
I thought Araya was too good for his above comments, but again, I'll stick to my original post, this was about Rubin and what Slayer took as a slap, and justifiably so, that Rubin even agreed to go w/ Metallica.
Don't think for a minute, Slayer and Rubin didn't talk about Metallica back in the day, the 90's.....Rubin was probably Anti-Metallica or at least disinterested...and portrayed those feelings to Slayer, then, int he future, to see him do a Metallica album was a slap in the face to them. Shit, that's how I'd feel. I just thought he'd be above all that.
ALL SPECULATION, but if it walks like a duck.....
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COMMENT | smaller venues
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:23:39 PM
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I used 2 like slayer many years ago, but they keep turning out the same old shit time after time & it's got really boring. Don't rate their last few albums at all & neither do alot of fans going by ticket sales for their latest uk tour. Smaller venues while metallica continue to sell out nite after nite. They were at best, a decent thrash metal band, but honestly compare reign in blood to master of puppets!!
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:25:25 PM
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of course Araya is a little angry with Metallica selling 2 millions of an ok album just because its called Metallica and all the advertisement around it. and also of course Slayer wont sell millions of records, just because they are to heavy and Araya doesnt have a commercial voice like Hetfield. but Slayer are doing fine and do what they wanna do and their albums sound way better then most metallica albums, and much better then Death Magnetic. And Araya probably have more brains then all of Metallica together. and yea thats right, sales have nothing to do with how good the music is at least not today, sales is also about marketing and doing what the suits want, and being at the right place at the right time. Slayer and many other bands have been making good to great albums now since the beginning and you know what you get, a Slayer album. Metallica have been making crap for 20 years and then they make an ok album wich is advertised to shit and all of a sudden they are god again for some people. Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, Overkill, Testament have been making better albums for the last 20 years and more albums also in this time, but they havent the same commercial appiel as Metallica, thats why the sell less records, not because they are worse bands because they realy are better bands, and i have seen them all live and they all were bettter then Metallica but they were good also but not as good.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:25:57 PM
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"Slayer. Bitter little fucks who have to live with the fact that the most succesful and important thing that any of them ever did was play a solo on a Beastie Boys track. 22 years ago!!!!! fuckhead."
Have you any idea how naive and ignorant that comment is??? Slayer virtually wrote the rulebook for ever extreme act after RiB. I mean, seriously, Metallica haven`t released a classic, influential album since MoP. Most bands release their great work early in their career. Slayer have been far more consistent than Metallica...that may not equate in sales because Slayer are far less commercial/mainstream...that they`ve sold some 12 million albums making such inaccesible music ( with no airplay ) speaks volumes.
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COMMENT | Well shit...
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:26:40 PM
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I'm not even going to touch the Metallica vs Slayer thing, but that was the longest rant of bullshit I've heard from a metal musician about Obama so far.
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COMMENT | Death Magnetic is better than anything Slayer has released in 15 years
posted by : SweiitConcorkill 11/17/2008 6:33:30 PM
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So, it just goes to show that this twit has his finger on the pulse of his own mindless inanity.
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COMMENT | I dunno
posted by : tvspat 11/17/2008 6:35:10 PM
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I think Divine Intervention was probably the last cool album Slayer ever did. After that it was all boring crap.
Oh, well there was that punk album they did
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COMMENT | How about
posted by : tvspat 11/17/2008 6:36:22 PM
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We need a metalhead debate...maybe Jon Schafer vs. Tom Araya on foreign affairs
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posted by : 11/17/2008 6:37:48 PM
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Tom definitely has most evil laugh in all of metal, that is all.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 6:38:49 PM
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For anyone hati'n on Slayer, SUCK A BIG FAT, COVERED WITH HERPES, AIDS AND SHIT, COCK!!!!!! Slayer fucking kills!!
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COMMENT | !!
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:40:06 PM
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every Slayer album for the last 20 years have been better then the few shitty albums Metallica have done in the last 20 years!!
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COMMENT | sonicbrutality
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:42:10 PM
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"I kick the bible in a pool of blood so that none of it's lies can affect me" You should all know that this is lyrical poetry from Tom "One Vocal Note" Araya, come on now!"
The lyrics to that song are by Kerry King, man...
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:47:43 PM
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Oh and by the way all you Slayer bashing retards, i don't think that the main goal for slayer was ever to have platinum status in their career! It has always been clear that they only wrote music for themselves and their fans, and to never give in to being part of the "mainstream"!! it's never been about money or fame, it's been about music, moshing, dirty ass clubs and the dark side!! and that's a fact!! so go and vaccume your minivans, tuck the kids in and pop in some nice new Metallica, AND FUCK YOURSELVES TO SLEEP!!!!
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COMMENT | Actually....
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:49:15 PM
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It was intended to be a joke, but only partially. Back in the day Slayer got most of their press for their album covers and their Beastie Boys association. Most of today's big metal and heavy rock bands will name Metallica, Maiden, Pantera and Anthrax before Slayer is even brought up. Slayer had the cool album covers and you had it in your collection to scare the shit out of your parents, but they were never anyone's favorite. The only time I ever listened to slayer was while lifting weights. Or maybe Halloween. I did know a guy in high school that named Slayer as his favorite. He used to catch rats and throw them in front of Subway trains. Sick fuck. Ended up hanging himself before graduation.
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COMMENT | sheekster
posted by : 11/17/2008 6:58:53 PM
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You know, except for the minivan deal that sounds like my life! Vaccum the BMW, have dinner with my family, tuck my son in, listen to a little DM in the den with the wife and then, luck you said, but more eloquently, make love to my wife (probably with Alter Bridge or Dream Theatre in the background) before going to sleep.
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posted by : 11/17/2008 6:59:03 PM
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^^^OOOOOOOOOOOKKK!!
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posted by : 11/17/2008 7:01:15 PM
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HAHAHAHA ALTER BRIDGE!!!!HAHAHAHAHA!!! WELL, I REALLY WISH I HAD THAT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! YOU JUST PROVED EVERYTHING I JUST SAID HAHA!!!
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posted by : 11/17/2008 7:03:59 PM
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MAKING LOVE TO ALTER BRIDGE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:07:12 PM
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mcman71: many people have Slayer as their favorite band and who gives if normal newspaper does just put Slayer album covers on their pages??? Slayer was never about that or most metal bands for that matter, more about the music and the people who like the music but of course its a good plus if you sell albums and they seem to have it fine and at a Slayer concert its usually just their fans. unlike most of the big bands like Metallica for example, 50000 people maybe in the concert but so many of them are just there because of nothing else matter or one or whatever, wich arent their best songs, just their most commercial ones.
yea and i went to see Red Hot Chili Peppers 2 years ago and i like their old stuff better but most of the people around only knew the new boring stuff and wasnt realy fans. just the normal people who listen to 1-2 songs an album and tell you the band is great and yea even only buy one album with a band just because of one song and then 10 years later you show them a great album wich sells less and they ask you "are they still playing".
these people are not music fans, or dont have it as a hobby, but of course they listen to music, its all over the radio. just as soccer is in some countrys, some people know of liverpool and Man Utd because its in the newspapers and radio and tv, but they are not fans so you dont talk much about soccer to them.
its similar with music, most people arent real fans or study whats coming out or read music magazines or anything like that but all seem to have opinions of music. but most metal fans seem to follow there band and know whats coming out and wich guy plays what instrument and so on.
I like both Slayer and Metallica, but Slayer more because i think Metallica are a overrated and a big sellout band, but still an ok band.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:10:13 PM
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yea and its similar with the grammys, they are joke, they are more about sales then wich bands are actually good, but of course sometimes a good band get popular too. Tool is a good example.
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COMMENT | DOROS78
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:12:07 PM
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EVERYTHIG WELL SAID...........................................
ALTERED BRIDGE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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COMMENT | SweiitConcorkill
posted by : Some_Person 11/17/2008 7:15:12 PM
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"Death Magnetic is better than anything Slayer has released in 15 years."
Wrong.
And Obama gets cheered around the world because they think he's a nice, charming man. At least on the face of it. They want a nice, charming man leading the country that shapes the world, not a hard-ass!
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posted by : jotun2graveland 11/17/2008 7:16:56 PM
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DM really is just a pathetic attempt by Metallica to go back to some of their older style. And just because Tom Araya has a strong hate towards the album, that doesn't mean he's jealous in any way. He just understands that the new Metallica album is shit. Plus, just because a band sells more albums, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are better. I love Metallica's first four albums, but I agree with Tom, the DM is dreadful
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posted by : 11/17/2008 7:17:59 PM
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Ohhhh baby, you know what i like....ooooohhhh, oh yeah...ohh right there baby, ohoohhhhhoooohhh eeeehhh ooohhhh!!! c'mon baby, Dream Theater's about to start so make me cum ....oooohhhh......HAHAHA!!
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COMMENT | !!
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:25:48 PM
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yea Dream Theater are great!!!!!!!!! glad you mentioned them :)
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:26:19 PM
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I thought I was watching Tom Cruise not Tom Araya in that interview ...
Barbecue
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COMMENT | Yup
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:27:41 PM
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the man speaks the truth
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COMMENT | TOM ARAYA
posted by : fergrhtght6789 11/17/2008 7:28:50 PM
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IS
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RIGHT
SLAYER (new song) > Metallica's last three albums.
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COMMENT | Tom is right on
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:30:38 PM
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He has about the same thoughts on both subjects that I had been feeling. As for Metallica, there were people out there that thought that St. Anger which sold millions was a great album. Thus, there will be diehards that will say the same about "Death Magnetic." It just doesn't have a great album feel to me. There are soo many bands that have put out great albums. Death Magnetic only has the Metallica sound to me at times.
As for politics. I have said the same thing to my collegues all the time. I reckoned that a democratic congress and president will have the best chance to make changes. We will see.
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COMMENT | nobama
posted by : 11/17/2008 7:39:49 PM
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Cheers tom on calling out our fake new president elect.Obama used the media to brain wash the world, well same way metallica did by hyping death magnetic up so much.Barack might me a fine leader to the most powerful country in the world but he has given so much hope to people that are craving change that millions of people aregoing to be let down and hurt from those broken promises that can not be delivered.Now i will admit I have been a metallica fan for a long time, but the over hype along with the let down of the new cd kinda pissed me off.This is a band that has seen the evolution of music over the past twenty years.In the early days it wasnt about what mainstream thought and what the fans thought, but if you listen to death magnetic that is what i get from it.Hell in there interviews they stated they want to feed off of master of puppets and justice but fuck man that is not going to happen.There rebellion is lost, they have conformed to the hard rock crowd aka disturbed.I remember hearing the day that never comes for the first time and thinking what the fuck this is not master of puppets or justice.Yes i know it will never be like it was before.All i am saying is do not over hype something or people will get disappointed that goes with obama and metallica.In the words of dime GETCHA FUCKING PULL
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COMMENT |
posted by : Biki 11/17/2008 7:57:03 PM
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Wow we're still arguing about this? Somehow Obama ended up in this mess? This community's full of too busybodies
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COMMENT | Love Slayer
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:11:31 PM
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But they wanted to release this song to show that it's not Rick. Well, duh? Rick had complete control over the mixing of the record with nobody from Metallica around. Rubin admitted to pushing everything to it's limit in the new issue of So What. So Rubin would have to want to commit career suicide if he would do the same thing with the new Slayer song. Hindsight. It doesn't prove that Rick wasn't behind the way DM sounds. Metallica were on tour when the album was mixed and mastered. Part of their agreement was to give Rubin complete control.
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COMMENT | !!
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:13:01 PM
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hehe yea somhow music chat ends up a political chat. but im just happy Obama got elected instead of McCain and we get rid of Bush. Obama isnt great but still he's probably better then most politicians out there today, american or other. but we have trouble all over the world now and there is no one super fixing gonna take change, it will take some years so people will have to be patience.
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COMMENT | huh?
posted by : YaKnow? 11/17/2008 8:13:22 PM
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COMMENT | What happened? posted by : msheetz 11/17/2008 5:02:30 PM "Is he on crack? Death Magentic is better then any Slayer album period. I love Slayer but he needs to give a few more spins."
Are you on crack?
Death Magnetic better than Reign in Blood?
Bwahahahahahahaha. Even the members of Metallica would disagree with you there.
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COMMENT | My two cents on Slayer vs. Metallica
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:13:26 PM
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Slayer - it's damn near impossible to find a used record.
Metallica - Not as much as Limp Bizkit and Creed, but there are quite a few used Metallica records out there for sale.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:22:30 PM
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yea Metallica have also so many "fans" that only bought the black album and hadnt even heard the albums before that, and some of them bought them and liked them like with all bands but most of them only own the black album and say they are a great band. But most Slayer fans are slayer fans and buy all there albums and thing most of them are good to great. but Metallica got cought up with this, being mega popular and if they wanna keep it they have to play the same songs over and over again or the hits, if they dont do it most of the people wont like it. Slayer usually plays the same songs but it wouldnt realy matter i think if they wouldnt because all the people are their for all their music not just the "hits".
its probably the best thing is being in a band thats all about the music and the fans and selling enough records to make a good living, bands like King Crimson, Dream Theater and more, they can play whatever they wishes live and their fans like it, and they have the talent to change the set list everynight, even if they are playing very complex music. just like the Dream Theater dvd's, usually some different songs on each dvd and thats great, its not like you are watching the same concert over and over again.
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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666 11/17/2008 8:24:20 PM
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Good interview by Tom.
the new metallica is awesome imo.
can't wait for slayer's new one in '09.
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COMMENT | His right
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:25:27 PM
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Of course Tom is right. You don't need to be a fucking Slayer fan to see that. Anyone who thinks Tom is lying or is jealous of Metallica is just terribly behind in the world of Metal. Metallica are gone. Finished. Get over them. There not great. I (like every other Metalhead) have their first four albums...fuck I even enjoyed the Black Album. But comparing a sell out talentless group such as Metallica to a group like Slayer who stayed true to Metal, to their style and always delivered for their fans is just crap. I hope modern day Metalheads know that being jealous of a band that makes more money than you equals selling out. Okay? I'm 17 and I fucking understand that. GET OVER METALLICA!!! I don't get what's so good about them. I enjoy there early stuff but even that isn't fantastic, there are just so many better Thrash bands out there. Why would Tom lie about that anyway? What does he gain from it...Guarantee 70% of people who bought Death Magnetic weren't even Metalheads anyway, I even heard The Day That Never Comes played on our soft rock chill out station and there the only 'Metal' band that is ever played on there. In conclusion Slayer are true and pure. Metallica are gone and Tom isn't lying...
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:28:14 PM
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COMMENT | What happened? posted by : msheetz 11/17/2008 5:02:30 PM
"Is he on crack? Death Magentic is better then any Slayer album period. I love Slayer but he needs to give a few more spins."
Just admit it son, you love COCK, you crave it, in fact, if you could, you would just keep one in your mouth all day!!! shut the fuck up please! just shut the fuck up!!
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COMMENT | hmmmm
posted by : rotgut 11/17/2008 8:29:48 PM
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Wow, another Slayer song that sounds exactly like all the other ones. Pretty innovative.
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COMMENT | !!
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:32:37 PM
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Paulie XXXSLAYERXXX: your so right and im 30. Testament, Overkill, Anthrax, Megadeth, Pantera, and so many other bands are much better, but still Metallica is a fine band but just not as good as these and many others. both live and on album especialy live.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:39:06 PM
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Obama and the rest of these politicians are some of the most evil scum to walk the planet, right up there with many lawyers. The fact that people are so damn shallow to think that Obama is the man because he promises things that are different with no elaborations on his claims and many other things, show what idiot assholes are allowed to vote. I've witnessed these people - makes me fucking sick!
We really know shit about Obama except that he SOUNDS good. That's about it. The point is, all of this publicity that he got was because we really don't know who the fuck he is!! Shouldn't have been mistaken for good promotions. Shit, whether it's him, Britney or whoever else, it doesn't mean anything until you do your due dilligence or research on these people.
I know that Tom Araya is a smart man and a good man too. I know a lot more about him than our to be President.
I can't stand how many seem to think that they're genius Psychologists by pointing out a basic theory that since someone (Tom) isn't fond of something else (Metallica's new stuff) that automatically makes him jealous - BS!! Slayer has been known to not like the newer Metallica as with many other people. Slayer never sold out and Metallica did - for a while. That's fine, I happen to like DM. Doesn't mean Araya is jealous though! I am sure he is just fine with the life he has - believe me!!
BTW, that new Slayer tune is SICK! Pure death metal with no cookie monster!!!! Damn, these guys keep it real like no other! Even in Diabolous in '98, even though it's my least favorite, it's STILL the real deal excpet for one fucking song! Not bad compared to all the other sellouts! Slayer remains true! No jealousy at all!!!
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COMMENT | Dave Levine!
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:42:58 PM
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"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Einstein.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:55:02 PM
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was just listening to the new song, its great and my mom will not like it hahaha, just like Slayer should be!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | SLAYER RULES!
posted by : 11/17/2008 8:59:06 PM
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"You guys crack me up. You don't have a clue. SLAYER \m/!!!"
EXACTLY!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/17/2008 9:03:44 PM
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"Slayer couldn't sing their way out of a Walmart!"
They've started selling SLayer @ walmart? Holy shit Batman! Must've missed the announcement while I was getting the oil on the minivan changed........Oh wait, I don't drive a minvan, my kids don't play soccer, Obama Biden Laden is just another sleezbag politician who needs to keep his fucking hands off my wealth that me and my husband worked hard for instead of "redistributing" (can we say theft) it to a bunch of ass-scratching fucktards who are too lazy to leave the cave, kill something and drag it home. AND I would rather listen to COC and Pantera than anything new by Metallica or Slayer because I haven't heard anything worth a damn from either of them in quite some time.
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COMMENT | Sickboy666
posted by : sonicbrutality 11/17/2008 9:08:32 PM
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Thanks for the correction, I'm still right about the one note vox though.
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COMMENT | ha
posted by : nadir 11/17/2008 9:09:22 PM
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DM sucks. Tom's right!
SSSLLLAYYYYYERRRRRR
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COMMENT | bad juju
posted by : 11/17/2008 9:11:08 PM
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I think that you should go to a Walmart psychiatrist! And while your there, pic up a decent pair of Walmart earphones, some Slayer and some McDonalds!!
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posted by : 11/17/2008 9:27:04 PM
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COMMENT | bad juju posted by : sheekster2 11/17/2008 9:11:08 PM I think that you should go to a Walmart psychiatrist! And while your there, pic up a decent pair of Walmart earphones, some Slayer and some McDonalds!! Thnak you for recommending your family docter but I don't require psychiatric care. Mcdonalds is just gross. I have subwolfers under the seat of my new truck, and Slayer STILL hasn't put out anything worth a damn in quite some time.
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COMMENT | ju ju bees
posted by : The Boss 11/17/2008 9:35:23 PM
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No women post on blabbermouth this must be a first. I think psycopathy red obviously treads alot of the same ground but it's still a pretty damn good track. Everything about Metallica is overblown, especially the commentary they recieve from all the blowhards of blabbermouth.
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COMMENT | bad juju
posted by : 11/17/2008 9:36:45 PM
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Tell you what then, just please get God Hates us All, buy it, download it whatever, pump that shit through your subs and tell me it's not good!
And BTW: My psychiatrist would never work for Walmart!;)
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COMMENT | If anyone pays attention
posted by : jesuswrotefiction 11/17/2008 9:43:20 PM
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I mentioned the same thing about metallica's record sucking because the band put out shit,when they where trying to says it was rubin on an earlier post.Thanks tom for backing me up on that. hahahaha
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COMMENT |
posted by : Skanna 11/17/2008 9:45:26 PM
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McMan71, this is an infringement notice. You are hereby fined $200 dollars for stupdity. You have 21 days to pay. That is all.
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COMMENT | Well
posted by : Some_Person 11/17/2008 9:53:37 PM
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That new SLayer song completely beat the shit out of anything on Death Magnetic.
If you disagree, you obviously need a hearing aid.
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COMMENT | Skanna
posted by : 11/17/2008 9:55:06 PM
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ALTER BRIDGE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Gets me every time!!
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COMMENT | Skanna
posted by : 11/17/2008 9:58:00 PM
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Even better, "eloquently" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! RETARD!!
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COMMENT | shit circus
posted by : 11/17/2008 10:08:22 PM
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shit magnetic
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COMMENT | WTF
posted by : ComaOfSouls 11/17/2008 10:18:02 PM
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I've always liked Slayer over Metallica but the last few Slayer albums have sucked, I'm not sure why those comments were made about Death Magnetic. Slayer tends to hold on to the "we never sold out" thing and I honestly think it's hurt the band's songwriting. Slayer used to progress and almost take chances on their records back in the day(SOH) and that's what made them so much better. DM is the best album since MOP if you ask me and I haven't liked anything past Justice.
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COMMENT | PS
posted by : Some_Person 11/17/2008 10:50:03 PM
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I'm not a Slayer fanboy. At best I like some Slayer songs.
But Death Magnetic takes a backseat to anything Slayer has done from 1990 to 2008.
Fact.
Hearing aids,. people.
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COMMENT | Immature
posted by : 11/17/2008 10:50:05 PM
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Death Magnetic is a real good release... jealously Tom.
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COMMENT | CaptainFantastik
posted by : Some_Person 11/17/2008 10:55:42 PM
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"What it all comes down to is that far more people on this planet want to hear Metallica music than Slayer music."
That's because girls like Metallica. They write girly tunes like Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, And the Unforgiven X. Girls generally love Metallica because of those tunes, although theymight branch out into a few more from the earlier albums. I know. I have, and have had, (gasp) girlfriends.
That's hitting an entire demograpohic that Slayer can't.
BTW I'm an edumacated man.
Death Magnetic: The drumming is embarrisingly simple. (especially the sound)
So are the bass lines.
The vocals are cringe-inducing (although I'm sure Jamz is a nice person)
The soloing is great.
The end, by me.
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COMMENT | Come on guys, wake up
posted by : 11/17/2008 11:04:29 PM
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Wow, I didn't know that many people on here bashed Tom for having an opinion, a true opinion at that.
Let's be honest here.
Death magnetic was terrible, it was St. Anger without the nu-metal and the trash cans. Psychopathy Red was better than Death magnetic as a whole.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/17/2008 11:27:14 PM
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What's with everybodies insults on here consisting of telling people to get hearing aids.. My grandpa has a hearing aid, and he still thinks slayer is shit. Yes Metallica nor Slayer have really done anything awesome since 1991ish blah blah blah... Yes their best albums are Master Of Puppets and Reign In Blood respectively.. blah blah Only difference is at least Metallica were trying to progress and do something somewhat different each album, even though they didn't pull it off at least they didn't just release Reign In Blood over and over again. Every new Slayer album that comes out i get and just think.. i've heard all of these songs already... They've already done this.. Move on.
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COMMENT | doros78
posted by : oPanterao 11/17/2008 11:33:46 PM
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of course Araya is a little angry with Metallica selling 2 millions of an ok album just because its called Metallica and all the advertisement around it. and also of course Slayer wont sell millions of records, just because they are to heavy and Araya doesnt have a commercial voice like Hetfield. but Slayer are doing fine and do what they wanna do and their albums sound way better then most metallica albums, and much better then Death Magnetic. And Araya probably have more brains then all of Metallica together. and yea thats right, sales have nothing to do with how good the music is at least not today, sales is also about marketing and doing what the suits want, and being at the right place at the right time. Slayer and many other bands have been making good to great albums now since the beginning and you know what you get, a Slayer album. Metallica have been making crap for 20 years and then they make an ok album wich is advertised to shit and all of a sudden they are god again for some people. Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, Overkill, Testament have been making better albums for the last 20 years and more albums also in this time, but they havent the same commercial appiel as Metallica, thats why the sell less records, not because they are worse bands because they realy are better bands, and i have seen them all live and they all were bettter then Metallica but they were good also but not as good.
fucken nailed it
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posted by : 11/17/2008 11:37:09 PM
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Tom's entitled to his own opinion, I get where he's comming from but don't totally agree.
Slayer & Metallica = LEGENDS
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COMMENT | Ummmm..........
posted by : 5points 11/17/2008 11:39:47 PM
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Slayer will always rule!!!
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COMMENT | We were happy 'cos Obama is minority & tired of Bush/Co. who spent $Bs in war/death!
posted by : InThroughTheOutDoor 11/17/2008 11:42:57 PM
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Won't buy new 'tallica, based on comments about the sound. The 1st 4 are great, but they've recorded a few great songs after, like Wherever I may Roam, King Nothing, Whiskey ITJ, &..., well not any more I can think of.
Why is Araya happy, did he say, he's a minority in many ways. the world looks at us for $ & inspiration, so they were happy that the Bush Regime will finally fall on its face soon. Shame on you who voted for him the 2nd time! You & the war pigs, who've spend $B in war & given party favors to big companies, are to blame for our bad economy! Those who insulted us all over the net for our anti-Bush comments, must finally suck it up: We've proven you wrong all along!
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posted by : 11/17/2008 11:58:25 PM
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COMMENT | How about posted by : tvspat 11/17/2008 6:36:22 PM We need a metalhead debate...maybe Jon Schafer vs. Tom Araya on foreign affairs
....add Robb Flynn in there too, this guy really has a way with words
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COMMENT | sheekster2
posted by : 11/17/2008 11:59:26 PM
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You might have a point at that. The subs make the seat vibrate when you crank 'em up and the hubby and I haven't properly(wink wink) broken the truck in yet. Alter Bridge~my goodness~do it like you mean it or don't do it at all.
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COMMENT | Obama Osama and your ugly mama...
posted by : BleakOutlook 11/18/2008 12:22:53 AM
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The reason why everybody in the world celebrated his win is because Obama is the Antichrist...so you should write a song about him...wait...you did on Show No Mercy!
Awesome song, too!
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COMMENT | Fuck
posted by : 11/18/2008 12:58:23 AM
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You Araya! I thought you were a cool motherfucker but you're just a dumb ass really. Why would anyone celebrate Obama's win? I'm from Australia and I'll fucking tell you why I and everyone else celebrated Obama's win. 1) Bush is out and so are the republicans. 2) Sarah Palin is back in Alaska. 3) First black president is quite an achievement and I feel it deserves a celebration. 4) The U.S. reputation can only go up-hill and so can the U.S. itself. This is excellent! Why wouldn't you celebrate after watching everything from day one. The most important reason is because we fucking want to! Tom why do you do this? Why does Slayer do that? I'm sure your answer would be to arrogant and ignorant questions like your own one "Coz we fucking want to!" Thats 5 good reasons off the top of my head and I'm sure there's way more. You're a fucking wanker Tom! What do you expect from Metallica? It owns anything you've done since Seasons (except D.I.M. YES I LOVED IT!).
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posted by : 11/18/2008 1:29:25 AM
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Tom, dude, you are so out of touch. You rely on somebody telling you who's good who isn't these days. Man, I love Slayer, but Tom Araya likely hasn't listened to real metal in years, he wouldn't know what is good and what isn't. Sadly, same thing can be said about just about every performing metal old-timer out there.
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COMMENT | Hmm..?
posted by : Big Floppy 11/18/2008 2:16:57 AM
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Last GREAT Metallica Album: ...And Justice For All
Last GREAT Slayer Album: Seasons In The Abyss
Between the two, the only band to release something great since is Metallica. Death Magnetic is a great album if you give it a chance.
Christ Illusion was horrible (Generic Metal). St. Anger was a fucking joke (JOKE!).
This new slayer song still sounds generic. If Tom would go back to his earlier (Reign, Seasons) vocal approach, they might have something. Because this new Psychopathy Red is so crappy, generic, boring, uninspired... same shit as Christ Illusion.
With that said;
Metallica and Slayer are great bands that have made amazing records.
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COMMENT | ???
posted by : 11/18/2008 2:46:10 AM
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Slayer sucks!!
Tom is just jealous that Metallica have sold 100 million albums and is the best heavy metal band of all time.
Death Magnetic rules and the quality is GREAT!!
Hail Metallica!!
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posted by : Skanna 11/18/2008 3:15:45 AM
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Captain fantastik, you're an idiot. Araya does not compose for Slayer. His vocals on Reign through to Divine are superb, and his ability to play tight bass while singing live is highly commendable.
It would be extremely inappropiate for Slayer to change their style and write pop music, as you imply they would do if they only had the talent.
There are plenty of intelligent Slayer fans. Personally, I have done a PhD.
Your user name says a lot about you.
One more thing ... fuck you.
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COMMENT | lost respect
posted by : 11/18/2008 3:22:05 AM
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I lost respect for Tom when he stated that God hates us all was just a cool name for an album. If you are going to release and an album with a title with such strength and have no conviction behind it and just say it's cool is down right weak, especially the way the lyric content is trying to be so clever and convincing. Go back to Show no mercy and Hell awaits and sing about ghouls and gobblins least we knew that was all crap.
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COMMENT | Fuck Slayer
posted by : 11/18/2008 3:30:37 AM
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Araya bites the pillow while King makes him squeal like a pig.
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COMMENT | ???
posted by : 11/18/2008 4:17:59 AM
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Metallica ANYDAY. I'll take "Load" over "Christ Illusion" in a fucking heartbeat at least it has some feeling to it. How does it take Slayer 5+ years to put out an album that sounds JUST LIKE the last one? (God Hates Us All to Christ Illusion)
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COMMENT | V.A.D.E.R!!
posted by : 11/18/2008 4:18:58 AM
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Metallica is back with a new great record and a brand new tour that sells out in 15 minutes in various countries and theyre 10 tons better than fuckin slayer. I bet slayer couldnt sell out a fuckin that fast. The one who can buy a farm is Kerry King Nothing.
P.S Dont use the expression 666 when you talk about slayer. Its only Iron Maiden who got permission to use that.
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posted by : Skanna 11/18/2008 5:10:14 AM
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by the way, Tom is wrong on Death Magnetic. It's a very good record. Why pretend otherwise? It's just mindless to say it is no good.
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posted by : 11/18/2008 5:17:02 AM
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Well said Tom
St.Magnetic is an aboslute mess.
Sure, the last couple Slayer albums have been sub-par, but still much better then the last few Metallica efforts...
Looking forward to the new Slayer album + Tour.
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COMMENT | .
posted by : 11/18/2008 5:35:28 AM
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Dave Lombardo plays in 5 minutes much more intense drumming than Lars in a whole set. That thing alone should shut up those dillusional people that still believe in METALLICA as the saviours of I don't know what or leaders of Metal.
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posted by : 11/18/2008 6:04:40 AM
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The new metallica album did nothing for me. It felt forced... fake... uninteresting. Riffs thrown together with no passion...
So yeah, I see what Tom is saying, because I feel it too. Oh and for the record, Slayer have always been better than metallica. ALWAYS. Who the hell cares if they don't sell out huge stadiums or a million records?? They thrash heavier, harder, and are infinitely more interesting playing in their tight little niche then metallica, who always seem to be trying to augment a soulless sound.
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COMMENT | Tom The Clever
posted by : 11/18/2008 6:49:22 AM
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Obviously, Tom likes to repeat himself. It is fair enough to ask that naive question once. Nobody knows Obama? What is that you would like to know about him Tommy? Size of his shoes? It is an inherent human mind pattern, that people are getting excited, when there is a change ahead. I am sure, that many people are pretty excited about Slayer´s fothcoming album without a reason as well. But I am affraid, that it wont be much of a change (again). In my opinion Slayer should either move on or quit. But maybe there is nowhere to go musically and somehow it feels uncomfortable to leave the milking cow behind while it still breathes. Right Tom?
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posted by : Skanna 11/18/2008 7:07:45 AM
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Pumpkin the Vicious,
The reason people are excited about a new Slayer album is because they know what they'll be getting, and know it will be good.
With Obama, Araya is right .... all around the world, people treated his win as if it was the second coming or something, when really most of them would know very little about Obama and his policies ... so why were they so happy?
The main reason is that Obama is not a man but a symbol. In a very easy and simplistic way, people can grab onto him as some kind of vague embodiment of their hopes for a better world.
If I was American, I would vote for him too. But it is foolish and naive for people around the world to see his win as some kind of victory of Good against Evil. So yeah, the world reaction was way over the top.
I think that is part of what Araya was hinting at.
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posted by : C.I.U 11/18/2008 7:07:57 AM
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Dirk> it's called not taking the lyrics seriously...
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COMMENT | Don't compare
posted by : 11/18/2008 8:11:57 AM
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Tom, don't worry, people won't compare DM with your albums. They (Metallica) are in a different league for you man. Waaaay up over your heads.
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posted by : 11/18/2008 8:59:08 AM
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Slayer hasn't made a relevant record since South of Heaven. Nor have they grown musically since that time. Only AC/DC can get away with making the same record 15 times.
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COMMENT | Zeus,Outofajob
posted by : 11/18/2008 9:13:52 AM
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Zeus, All of this is obviously over your little head you silly little boy, and Outofajob, Slayer has, and always will "get away with it" Douchbags!!
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posted by : thaiguy333 11/18/2008 9:24:44 AM
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what an arrogant dick.
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COMMENT | Tom
posted by : 11/18/2008 9:29:53 AM
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makes some very good points about Obama with out really taking sides, just stating his observations. and the new metallica album does suck.
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COMMENT | Well,
posted by : juanneman 11/18/2008 9:57:31 AM
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Tom is bitter and he is right since he feels the band has played second fiddle to Rick, and I don´t see why he compares the band to Metallica. He shouldn´t have done that. I love at least THESE Metallica and their first 4 albums and ALL of Slayer´s albums, I love Slayer more than Metallica because of their INTEGRITY and their overall career, but he doesnt´need to compare both bands because it just DOESN´T exist. Metallica is BIGGER than Slayer, that´s a fact, but that doesn´t mean anything to me. To sum up, I don´t understand his words on the whole Metallica shit, but he is right in Obama´s case: why are people happy worldwide for someone they don´t know? Is it because they feel relieved Bush is gone? This man is really a mystery such as he says. Look at what the journalist said: after two years he didn´t know about his political direction. I wish him the best, and only time will tell. He only transmitted enthusiasm but no-one really knows him and what he will REALLY do.
Btw, the new Slayer song is plain AWESOME: we know it´s nothing new, but I, as a stalwart Slayer fan, will love their music until their final days, and this song is no exception. Hail the Slaytanic Wehrmacht!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | The odd thing about this thread
posted by : 11/18/2008 11:05:09 AM
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is that i don't see many fans of both bands. Well i'm a fan of both and i can easily say that the great Tom might be a little wrong here. I've buying all Slayer records up 'till now and i can help but hear uninspired music in their last four efforts. Good songs here and there but overall... Now can anyone compare psychopathy with an old song? Yes, it sounds like it's trying to copy something of the raining.. album but it's so much more uninspired. I love Slayer but let's be honest here... Metallica on the other hand have dissappointed us for so many years. But the last effort is good, at least decent. They're trying hard and they're not copying themselves so... I don't want to hate anyone. Don't forget if Metallica were sold outs, then Slayer were too, when they were so New Metal in Diabolus and God hates us all...
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/18/2008 11:30:53 AM
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hahaha since when is Metallica the best metal band of all time????? Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Sabbath. Testament, Anthrax, Overkill, Megadeth, Pantera, Dio, Judas Priest and many others are much better bands but with less commercial appiel. much better bands live. if bands are gonna be judged just by their sales then Britney and Justin Timberlike are musical geniuses right???? Metallica was fine back in the day but still just good in my opinion, many better bands, and they were always hitting on Motley Crue for the looks and so on, but Motley Crue is probably more aobut the music then Metallica. they just made the headlines because they had good looks and were fucking some movie starts and so on. Metallica are a good bands im not saying anything else, but not that good, and the biggest sellout band of all time probably. and they havent made a good album in 20 years, and Death Magnetic is just ok, nothing more.
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posted by : 11/18/2008 12:24:40 PM
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i love both bands overall and slayer was still making good music in the 90s while metallica wasnt.... but i definitely think death magnetic sounds leaps and bounds more inspired than christ illusion. its the first slayer album i probably couldnt get into at all. again, i think death magnetic is definitely in metallicas top 4 albums. its very strong
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posted by : 11/18/2008 1:07:22 PM
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Is it just me or does Slayer not know how to put vocals to the riffs they write? I love their riffs and rhythms but then the vocals come in and in my opinion ruin the songs. The only album, to me, that's bearable is Christ Illusion. It's not his voice, or lyrics, just how they are put to the riffs. Anyone agree?
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COMMENT | DM Owns
posted by : StratoBOB 11/18/2008 1:10:26 PM
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Death Magentic is better then any Slayer album
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COMMENT | HANKSCORPIO...
posted by : 11/18/2008 3:08:44 PM
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...hit the nail on the head really, Toms entitled to his opinion, both bands are Legends and have a legacy that proceeds them and will endure many an age. "CaptainFantastic" as educated as he thinks or is trying to seem is quite unequivocally a pseudo-intellectual on the basis that his comment as easily the most ignorant, you've stooped into stereotyping, type casting, and thats the catalyst for most of the horse shit thats ruined the world (and of any genre, jesus come on!).
Where a bunch of Slayer & Metallica fans taking pot shots at each band and taking our criticisms to far to out do the best guy when we love em both!! and as for this goddamn 2million records, its tired and irrelevant Slayer have a huge passionate fan base, there not poor they have there own image and they never doctored it nor wanted it to appeal to the masses so forget that crap!
Keep it Metal Out there people!
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COMMENT | Captain Fantastic...
posted by : 11/18/2008 3:10:29 PM
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... it'd be so great to have this discussion in a room ala the House of commons, face to face almost, see how ignorant your statements are when your in the presence of your enemy!
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posted by : 11/18/2008 3:56:32 PM
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new slayer is def METAL...but sounds uninspired....
DM is metal...but for some reason it doesnt sound heavy...its just not Bad ass...even when they play old songs livwe it doesnt sound badass nemore
Not a hung slayer fan, but at least they are real badass metal
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posted by : 11/18/2008 4:07:06 PM
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All this proves is that Tom Arya has no idea what he's talking about when you ask him about Metallica.
Hey Tommy Boy have you heard the last 5 slayer albums.. Man what happened? Was that all Rick as well?
I guess Hetfield just needs to sing about Jack the ripper..
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posted by : 11/18/2008 4:13:57 PM
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Fuck death magnetic. Any Slayer album is better than that shit.
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posted by : 11/18/2008 4:19:40 PM
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Metallica - metal for 12 year olds and grandmas.
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COMMENT | Tom and Kerry King.
posted by : 11/18/2008 4:36:23 PM
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sorry but the new slayer song sounds like any slayer song that has been out since "God Hates Us All"
they need to do something fresh and new. alot of ppl either bash bands for changing their sound or the bands not changing their sound. im a big slayer fan but i HATE KERRY KING!! im sorry kerry,but Kirk blows you out of the water. Kerry king is the real sell out in slayer!
"I kick the bible in a pool of blood so that none of it's lies can affect me" real original kerry,just what we all expect from slayer zZZzzzZzz
the new metallica cd to me didnt live up to the old metallica but "The Day that never comes" reminded me of "Fade To Black" and "One". Its the only song i like off DM.
and as far as toms opinion on politics, he should just shut the fuck bcz he just made himself sound just as dumb as he looks. Why did everyone else celebrated Obama's win?..thats probaly the most ignorant statement ive heard this year hahaha
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posted by : 11/18/2008 8:59:26 PM
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Hellooooooo...that's what many of us have been saying since Obama starting his run for the white house. I've seen interviews with people being asked why they like Obama. It's the funniest thing you've ever seen. They can' answer the freakin' question with any specifics.
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posted by : puthimdownyafrig 11/18/2008 9:29:31 PM
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glad he called death magnetic the manufactured piece of shit that it is. but I must say psychopathy red is nothing special.. it's no "disciple"
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COMMENT | SlaytanicFig
posted by : 11/19/2008 2:20:31 AM
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I sure will say my prayers...over a bible in a pool of blood so that none of it's lies can effect me!!111!!!!.
I knew my post woul encite the humiliating wrath of the prepubescent metality of slayer fan, but jeez, if you're going to reply, at least bring something to the tableIf my "rant" was so allegedly opinionated, please point out where anything I said under the FACTS heading is an opinion.....go ahead, try.
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COMMENT | Tom The Clever pt. 2
posted by : 11/19/2008 3:05:49 AM
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Hey Skanna,
thank you SO MUCH for clarifying the deep meaning behind Mr. Oracle´s thoughts. There is nothing wrong with Araya´s statement and what he was hinting at. What I was hinting at, was the childish point he made, which could be done by a 5 year old, and his "Nobody knows him" repetitive postulation. But its allright...coz thats just the way the cookie crumbles in this "innovative" and "non-repetitive" band.
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COMMENT | SlaytanicFig
posted by : juanneman 11/19/2008 9:40:48 AM
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A very good reasoning (ironic).
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posted by : 11/19/2008 2:36:27 PM
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I would pretty much say that St. Anger shits all over ANYTHING that Slayer has ever recorded. Learn how to mix a damn record. if you would bring out the tones, up the bass, and shoot your singer in the face and get somone who sounded halfway decent I might actually buy one or your cds.
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posted by : 11/19/2008 2:37:32 PM
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oh and learn some new riffs. the same one riff you guys use for all of your songs is getting boring.
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COMMENT | slayerbabe
posted by : 11/21/2008 2:15:45 AM
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You might want to look into getting the last 18 years of life back from the horrid albums slayer has released since 1990
Death magnetic >>>>>>> anything post SITA slayer
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COMMENT | slayerbabe
posted by : 11/21/2008 3:19:21 PM
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You forget TBA is also better than anything slayer has done since SITA...though you cant really blame slayer much, it's not like they are very skilled musicians,ave for the drummers they've had. They just cant do anything but the same thing over and over. Well I take that back, the same thing as SITA would be good, but we got DI, DIM, GHUA and CI, now didn't we? Hell, I guess that means slayer cant even do the one thing they were good at anymore.
I suggest you try getting 18 years of your life back that it took you to come up with names like "load of shit" because if that's the best you can do, then it looks like you'll be screwing up people's orders at taco bell for a LOOONNNGGGG time.
yes, me farting>>>>>>>death magnetci. me farting>>>>>>>>your existance and earth in general but assuming you meant that as an insult, if we take me farting>>>>>death magnetic and also take the obvious death magnetic>>>>>any slayer post SITA, then that means me farting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>post sita slayer.
God can you be any more embarrassed?
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COMMENT | Didn't I just tell you that you are embarrassed?
posted by : 11/22/2008 4:38:54 AM
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No, you are embarrassed for sitting there saying something about death magnetic sounding like shit IN DEFENSE of SLAYER of all bands. Instead of sitting on the internet humiliating yourself, profession your undying loyalty to your heroes, your saviors, your GOD, I suggest you actually go out and make something of your life instead of perpetuating the stereotype of slayer fan.
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COMMENT | .
posted by : 11/27/2008 9:00:56 AM
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that one lead part in the song sounds fuck'd up and out of tune........ fix it, then get back to me.
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COMMENT | the truth
posted by : slayervsmetallica 12/30/2008 10:47:41 AM
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metallica got corrupted,twisted and perverted! first 3 albums ARE! the BEST ALTIME! After...dissapointment and more dissapointment. Only "us" priveliged few "it seems like now" who experienced this bands welcomed strangle hold on "us/me" for oh ..about 5 years. Knows whats up! Not hating the new crowd..but cmon do yer homework! we sure the fuck did! SLAYER! loves!!! Metallica!..first 3 albums..ha ha. Hey! believe me all they want is to go to a metallica concert that used to be. Slayer stayed humbled. so.cal thats why! Character!! Slayer has character! And thats the truth!
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