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NIKKI SIXX Says 'Chinese Democracy' Is 'Not A GUNS N' ROSES Record'
- Nov. 19, 2008
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According to The Pulse of Radio, the new GUNS N' ROSES album, "Chinese Democracy", was leaked online in its entirety on Tuesday (November 18), finally giving anyone with access to BitTorrent and RapidShare sites a chance to hear the record that has been 13 years in the making. The disc comes out legally on Sunday (November 23) exclusively through Best Buy. One person who's curious to hear it is MÖTLEY CRÜE bassist Nikki Sixx, although he told The Pulse of Radio he has some reservations. "I don't know if I believe it's a GUNS N' ROSES record, because it's just Axl," he said. "I think it's a phenomenal solo record, I'm sure, but as far as being a GUNS N' ROSES record, you know, I'd love to hear GUNS N' ROSES together because we believed in that band. You know, Axl's the type of artist who will make sure it's a great record, but it's not a GUNS N' ROSES record, it's an Axl Rose record. We need to be careful with the brand name."
GUNS N' ROSES once opened for MÖTLEY CRÜE back in the late Eighties.
Singer Axl Rose is the sole remaining original member of the classic GUNS N' ROSES lineup. A revolving cast of musicians have performed on "Chinese Democracy".
Although vocalist Vince Neil and drummer Tommy Lee have both left MÖTLEY CRÜE at various points, there have always been at least three original members in the group.
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posted by : 11/19/2008 2:11:02 PM
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Nikki is right
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posted by : Daisy May Tinklepants 11/19/2008 2:14:16 PM
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and nikki sixx is no longer relevant...
:-)
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posted by : Dave Mustaine's bitch 11/19/2008 2:14:59 PM
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The "brand" is whoever owns the name. Megadeth is only Dave Mustaine but all the records have that Megadeth sound. Nikki is not technically correct.
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COMMENT | Nikki!
posted by : fullshred 11/19/2008 2:15:09 PM
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Don't say that, please. I want me free Dr. Pepper on 11/23/08
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posted by : 11/19/2008 2:15:43 PM
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Velvet revolver isn't doing anything so why not bring back Slash and Duff.
Get any willing drummer besides that lame ass Matt sorum guy.
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COMMENT | Nikki Sticks and Stones
posted by : King of Ultimate Metal 11/19/2008 2:23:07 PM
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Nikki could be right... I haven't listened to the album outside of what Axl played for me one night at his home gym. All I know is I saw Nikki at a Panda Express off Wilshire blvd and told him he stunk. He then proceeded to throw a soft jab at me and I ducked it and swept his leg... knocking him to the sidewalk....as I walked away I threw a couple bucks at him and said "Enjoy the Lemon Chicken...on me."
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posted by : Dave Mustaine's bitch 11/19/2008 2:29:57 PM
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LOL!!!@Panda Express.
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posted by : booch 11/19/2008 2:31:13 PM
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thank you
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COMMENT | I disagree with 5150
posted by : Jack Bauer 11/19/2008 2:36:50 PM
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Buckethead is an awesome guitar player. Ozzy Osborne was looking for a new guitar player about 8 years ago to go on tour with him. He tried out a number of guitar players, and Buckethead was his choice hands down. He talked about how great Buckethead was but wanted Buckethead to remove what he called the stupid chicken bucket from his head. Buckethead refused to remove the bucket, so Ozzy refused to hire him.
Does anyone think Ozzy would attempt to hire a guitar player to play Randy Rhodes guitar solos if he wasn't a Rock N' Roll guitar player?
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posted by : TheSoundOfChunder 11/19/2008 2:39:29 PM
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Axel's N' Roses
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COMMENT | Amazing
posted by : Jack Bauer 11/19/2008 2:40:08 PM
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Amazing how many musicians will come out with blantant jealousy of Axl Rose. Big name musicians as well. Guys like Sixx and Bon Jovi.
I think Axl Rose is a rock star, even in the eyes of fellow rock stars. That is huge.
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COMMENT | GENERATION SWINE IS NOT A MOTLEY CRUE RECORD
posted by : 11/19/2008 2:45:53 PM
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How is Generation swine a Motley Crue record then?
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COMMENT | Too much...
posted by : fuckinghateallofyou 11/19/2008 2:46:08 PM
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SQUAWKING!!!!!!!! I couldn't even make through 10 second clips.
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COMMENT | Relevancy
posted by : 11/19/2008 2:46:14 PM
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Hey Daisy May Tinklepants...Nikki Sixx is more relevant then Axl could ever hope to be..He's working with 2 successful acts and it didnt take him 13 years to make a record.
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COMMENT | NIKKI SIXX Says 'Chinese Democracy' Is 'Not A GUNS N' ROSES Record'
posted by : 11/19/2008 2:56:50 PM
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"Metal" MORGAGNE Says 'NIKKI SIXX' is not a real name
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COMMENT |
posted by : slavedriver1967 11/19/2008 2:57:08 PM
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I feel no need to protect the GnR brand. I got enough to do already.
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COMMENT | Nikki is right.
posted by : 11/19/2008 3:02:27 PM
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Why? Axl could be G 'N R if he were the main or sole songwriter on all their records. Izzy, Slash and Duff wrote quite a few songs, or contributed to, so is not only Axl whom should receive all the credit. On the other hand, Nikki is the main songwriter in M. Crue, most of their songs, mostly from their first records were written by him, and that's different.
A G 'N R record made by Axl only will sound like a Axl Rose record, an album made by Nikki Sixx will sound like a M. Crue record, IMHO.
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posted by : kwf 11/19/2008 3:03:26 PM
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Looks like the GNR/Motley tour is cancelled....
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posted by : I Live Again 11/19/2008 3:16:01 PM
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I'd rather have Izzy back than Slash or Duff. He wrote most of the classic songs.
CHINESE DEMOCRACY HAS STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | FUKK NIKKI SIXX
posted by : T-Boner.com 11/19/2008 3:25:29 PM
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THAT 6AM SHIT WAS SHIT
AND S.O.L.A. WAS FUCKEN TERRIBLE, I WANT MY MONEY BACK!
AXL= GOD
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COMMENT | NIKKI IS JUST HAPPY CAUSE HES BEEN JOCKING DUFFs BAND LOADED
posted by : T-Boner.com 11/19/2008 3:29:05 PM
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HERE IS A STORY FOR YA,
S.O.L.A. WAS OVER PRODUCED AND THE WORST ALBUM IN MOTLEY CRUE HISTORY.
SO- GO FIX YOUR OWN PROBLEMS. NIKKI AND YOU ARE TORUING WITH HINDER MEANS I WOULD NOT PAY 2CENTS FOR THAT SHIT/TOUR!
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COMMENT | shut up
posted by : double_talking_jive 11/19/2008 3:36:12 PM
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Nikki Sixx!
I'm sick of hearing all the losers complaining about "this is not guns n roses" If you don't like gnr than don't visit any threads for gnr! ok!?
GnR\m/
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COMMENT | Guns -n-Axls Roses ass?
posted by : 11/19/2008 3:36:44 PM
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Well what ever. Im buying it for Buckethead's contributuions. He has got to be the nuttiest guitar player out there. Although Im a fan I think I'd be scared to be left in a room alone with him. But I also wake up excited when I have a nightmare. I love scary Dreams!
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COMMENT | OH OH WAIT!!!! I AINT THROUGH... YOU MADE A MOTLEY ALBUM WITHOUT VINCE NEIL
posted by : T-Boner.com 11/19/2008 3:38:03 PM
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CALLED IT MOTLEY CRUE?! AND IT WAS GREAT ALBUM
BUT IT WASNT MOTLEY CRUE WITHOUT VINCE NEIL ON VOX!
LEAST AXL DONT TRY TO PUT OUT SILLY FIGURES OF HIMSELF, RE-RE-RE-RE-RELEASE THE SAME ALBUM,OVER AND OVER. PUT OUT BOOKS, AND RE-RELEASE THE SAME BOOK. A CRY BABY BOOK ABOUT DOING DRUGS.
YEA, YOU KNOW ALL ABOUT*BRANDS* NIKKI, CAUSE YOU LOVE TO SELL IT.
AXL IS ABOVE ALL THESE JEALOUS HATERS AND CAN STAY GOD WITHOUT LIFTING A FINGER TO PROMOTE HIMSELF.
AXL HAS TRUE FANS/FOLLOWERS.
HELL, A.F.D. HAS NOT BEEN RE-RELEASED YET. BELIEVE THAT!
ALL THESE F*CKS ARE JEALOUS...SIMPLE AS THAT.
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COMMENT | the thing is
posted by : double_talking_jive 11/19/2008 3:39:46 PM
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that everyone is getting jealous at the moment cos they now that chinese democracy will sell millions and will be a groundbreaking record! so the best they are doing is to rubbish a very nice person, Axl Rose.
Axl is such a humble person, I mean look he's not going around bragging about new record coming out!
The history is gonna be re-written with chinese democracy
GnR\m/
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COMMENT | Hey "King of Ultimate Metal"
posted by : 11/19/2008 3:49:04 PM
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I'm curious to know what the color of the sky is in your little fantasy world.
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COMMENT | Look...
posted by : Jesterwolf316 11/19/2008 3:52:09 PM
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Nikki is right. This is not a GnR record. But I do think it will be an amazing record.
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COMMENT | Buckethead is a great guitar player...
posted by : Million Dollar Man 11/19/2008 3:56:32 PM
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But what's with everyone riding his ass? I mean, regardless of how you feel about him one way or the other, there are much better and more interesting guitar players out there. Hell, Bumblefoot plays on Chinese Democracy. Let's see some love for Ron Thal, please.
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COMMENT | album
posted by : 11/19/2008 3:56:54 PM
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the album was...pretty damn terrible. the first cut offered up some promise then each song had an intro / outtro that just ruined it. Plus many of the songs blurred together with similar sounds. Gave it a listen then deleted the tracks.
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COMMENT | Crüe
posted by : Devil's Deja Vu 11/19/2008 3:57:14 PM
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i'll have my motley crue over g&r ANY DAY OF THE WEEK..
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COMMENT | And those who call others jealous...
posted by : Million Dollar Man 11/19/2008 3:57:48 PM
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More often than not sound like bratty teenagers. Keep it up guys, way to make the fanbase look worse.
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COMMENT | I WILL AGREE , IT COULD HAVE BEEN CALLED "AXL ROSE"...SOLO
posted by : T-Boner.com 11/19/2008 4:00:13 PM
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AND STILL SELL BILLIONS,
BUT YA KNOW WHAT? AXL WAS SMART ENOUGH TO GET THE RIGHTS TO THE NAME...SO HELL YEAH! MORE POWER!
DUFF HAD TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL TO LEARN THIS LESSON^
AXL= JUST A SMALL TOWN WHITE BOY FROM INDIANA;-) KNEW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME....SLICK.
SO WINNER TAKES ALL.
NIKKI WISHES HE OWNED THE NAME "GUNS N' ROSES"
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COMMENT | See what I mean?
posted by : Million Dollar Man 11/19/2008 4:02:34 PM
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^^^^
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posted by : thesloth 11/19/2008 4:09:00 PM
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What about NIN, Smashing Pumkins. Also Dizzy Reed came on board in 1990 and is still part of GnR
If Slash and Duff were such a big part of GnR then why was VR such a musical failure?
Face it GnR on AFD was mostly Izzy and Axl.
On UYI it was mainly Axl and Izzy. There was Slash for solos and a few cool bass riffs but that is all Slash and Duff did
Classic songs like Patience, November rain, Don't Cry Slash hated and never wanted to do them. Slash hates keyboards he admited this in his book.
Slash is a great guitar player but got way to much credit for what he brought to GnR.
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posted by : 11/19/2008 4:15:52 PM
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I saw Motley Crue when Guns N Roses opened up for them in '87 on the "Girls Girls Girls" tour. Guns N Roses was TERRIBLE in concert and Motley Crue was amazing. But that was then, so it might be different now.
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COMMENT | Axl wins it all!
posted by : Raulinc 11/19/2008 4:16:46 PM
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Chinese Democracy is going to rock!!!!!!! Axl Rocks!!!!
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COMMENT | ****IT IS ABOUT BEING JEALOUS****
posted by : T-Boner.com 11/19/2008 4:21:54 PM
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****ENVY**** IS ONE OF THE 7 DEADLY SINS!
HALF THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD= IS BECAUSE SOMEONE IS JEALOUS.
CHI.-DEM. WILL SELL MORE (FIRST DAY OF RELEASE) THAN S.O.L.A. WILL EVER SELL...(COUNTING OVERSEAS SELLS)
NIKKI COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE SAID: "YEAH , YOU KNOW IT IS GOOD TO HAVE AXL BACK, MAKING MUSIC, I REMEMBER HIM FROM WAY BACK WHEN.... I MISS THE OLD BAND AND SOUND...BUT THIS NEW GUNS N' ROSES IS JUST AS AWESOME"
INSTEAD- HE DOES THE OL "POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK" DEAL TALKING ABOUT "BRANDS"????????????????????????????????WTF!
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COMMENT | AXL SOLO RECORD...PERIOD!!
posted by : 11/19/2008 4:28:35 PM
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You assholes who think "AXL IS GN'R" keep deluding yourselves....
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COMMENT | HYPOCRITE !!!
posted by : 11/19/2008 4:29:14 PM
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Cough Cough, I finding something hard to swallow!
by those standards... MÖTLEY CRÜE should have changed their name when Vince Neil was kicked out...
WHAT A HYPOCRITE !!!
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COMMENT | If I had to Choose
posted by : 11/19/2008 4:40:11 PM
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If I had to choose to see Axl and the GNR cover band or Motley Crue, I would choose Axl and the Cover band any day. Vince Neil sounds like a cat in heat at 4:00 a.m. outside your bedroom window.
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COMMENT | Idiots...
posted by : IPOWNU 11/19/2008 4:48:02 PM
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over the last few days I am tired of reading about Buckethead. He is not in the band anymore. And in this and other threads The all knowing Nikki Sixx for some reason has some relevance on GnR, music in general and if he takes a shit it is news here. Motley crue was never and will never be half the band GnR is/was. Love it hate it buy it or don't it will still destroy V/R
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COMMENT | Nikki is right....
posted by : 11/19/2008 5:04:35 PM
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I have been a GNR fan for MANY years. When I heard they were making a new disc. I was for the most part excitied...but...when I saw an interview with Slash and he said he was not ever going to perform with GNR again. I was NOT excited anymore. WHY...becuase like some of you have said and like Nikki said(he is the only one). When Ozzy left (or) was asked to leave Sabbath he was just Ozzy. He could have used the name because he was part of the group. (With that said)....Slash could use the GNR name also but.... he doesn't...SOOOOOOOOO...Where I am going with this....well I will tell you....Axl should just go with his name and not the GNR name. If he is as great as some of you think he is then thats all he needs.
AND...since some of you are probably to young to know this but.."Gun's & Roses" was originally started by Tracii Guns and Axl Rose...HENCE the name.....so should he use the name too?
Personally....I think Chinese Democracy....'SUCKS'!!!!!!!!!! I was very disappointed.
SMOOCHES... D
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COMMENT | pricky sixxx
posted by : IkidIkid 11/19/2008 5:05:43 PM
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Nikki thinks everything he says and does is SO important. He has spent the past decade trying to cash in on his eventual death. What a loser. Nikki won't die because no one cares about him alive or dead.
Best Motley CD was with Corabi ( Hands down)
From what I've hear of this GNR it sounds like crap that only people who drink DR Pepper would listen too. Techno rock with gay ass vocals and very little guitar. It's a sham that Best Buy bought into that is not gonna pay off because it sucks.
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COMMENT | exactly...
posted by : Kissfan77 11/19/2008 5:20:52 PM
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this is as bad as Uriah Heep personnel changes...this was always not a band...not NIN or Alice Cooper or MM...
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COMMENT | .....
posted by : 11/19/2008 5:25:16 PM
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The new "GNR" or "Axl" cd doesnt change the fact that axl rose is a still cry baby on stage hahaha
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : 11/19/2008 5:32:35 PM
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He is right.
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COMMENT | nikki sixx?
posted by : fixedbroken 11/19/2008 5:59:53 PM
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get out... you are nothing on guns n roses still today. never was never will be.
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COMMENT | NIKKI IS RIGHT>>>>
posted by : 11/19/2008 6:23:37 PM
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And I saw Crue back in '87 with Gns n Roses opening for them and they were not that great - MOTLEY CRUE KICKED ASS that night...now G n R is better than back then but AXL has anger issues and he looks retarded....And besides this is his release by himself..so we will see ...13 years has gone by ...DUH.
NIKKI SIXX IS RELEVANT ...MORE THAN YOU RETARDS WILL EVER KNOW.
NIKKI SIXX - GORGEOUS + ROCK N ROLL ICON. PERIOD.
christy crue in atlanta
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COMMENT | Generation Swine
posted by : 11/19/2008 6:26:04 PM
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There was a comment made on here that "Generation Swine" is not a Motley Crue album? If its not then what is it considered? Last time I checked it had Vince, Nikki, Tommy, and Mick as players.
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COMMENT | stop it
posted by : deth n roll 11/19/2008 6:30:41 PM
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chinese democracy is as much of a guns and roses album as saints of los angelos is a motley crue album.
only difference is people are going to buy *assloads* more copies of gnr. regardless of who is in the band. and you know why?
cause 1/5 original gnr > pretty much any band, new or old. face it.
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COMMENT | I can't help but laugh.
posted by : Raiders757 11/19/2008 6:43:54 PM
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It blows my mind that the low I.Q. Axl fans can't realize that Nikki sixx didn't rip on thier lame ass hero's new solo project. All he did was point out that it's not a true GnR album, and he's 100% correct.
To call what is about to come out, and GnR album, is a a disgrace.
I'll also add that GnR are the most overrated one album wonder of all time. It blows my mind how many of you chumps suck Axl's pole. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the real GnR's music, but they are way overhyped. I saw them live, and they stunk both times. I saw them on TV in concert ,as well as have some bootlegs, and they stunk even more in that setting.
GnR are a band with one hell of a debut album, and that is it. They may be the worst live band of all time, and are the least productive band to have ever had so many pole smokers worship them. Not the term "them", which can no longer be used with GnR. (...and to moron who used Megadeth as an example? What a douchebag! Megadeth has always been about one man, and that one man can fart a better tune than GnR as a whole, or even Axl Rose.)
What is even more mind blowing, is that the media, as well as the sheeply idiot fans, are making such a fuss about this so called 'Chinese Democracy'. Axl dicked his fans around, and has become irrelevant in real music circles, yet somehow the stupid sheep let him slide for dicking them around for so long.
I've heard the album, and it blows giant gorilla nuts. I'm sure his sheeply fans will love it, as they talked themselves into liking it years before it even came out. Axl could release a test pattern at this point, and his fans would claim he was a genius.
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COMMENT | LOL
posted by : Raiders757 11/19/2008 6:48:54 PM
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deth n roll is a prime example of what I am talking about.
He would probably give Axl a rim job if he could.
"1/5 original gnr > pretty much any band, new or old."
That is by far the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet, and being that I come to this place, that says a hell of a lot.
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COMMENT | !!
posted by : 11/19/2008 7:06:23 PM
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have to ask what is being relevant? your not relevant because you get older and 13 year old kids move on and listen to younger bands wich are nowadays and for the last 5-10 years worse then the bands before and even the new stuff by the old bands is much better then most of the crap thats on radio today, but of course kids buy it because the younger bands are supposed to be in fashon or whatever. that doesnt mean the the older bands are any worse and usually they still put on a great show and often bigger show, but their cd's start to sell less but that happens to any bands that stay toegether for 10 years or more. but still the younger bands are playing warm ups for the older bands and paying there respect so of course they are relevant and people will always check out these older albums, thats way for example people still wanna see Zeppelin so much because the music is still relevent and and the people also while they are alive.
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COMMENT | To whoever said....
posted by : demonwhore 11/19/2008 7:29:18 PM
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that the new GNR disc will be groundbreaking....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You obviously haven't actually listened to that joke of a single they released. It's generic at best and Axl has been long over his prime. I could care less if it's called GNR or AXL FUCKING ROSE, it's still very simple and generic. My suggestion is this...you released this piece of shit and got it out of your system. NOW, get a decent band together and write an album in 2 months and release it in 6 and compare the two. Then you'll know if he's still got it.
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COMMENT | Sikki Nikki!
posted by : pigchop 11/19/2008 7:35:19 PM
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http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6316/nikkisixx2li2.jpg
Rock n' roll baby.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/19/2008 8:17:19 PM
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the album is very good and will probably be great in a few listens wich is very good, and at least its many times better then the other hard rock thats been on the radio for the last 5-10 years or longer. and yea its better then Death Magnetic, but wasnt that hard realy, and yea it took him all this time to make this record and it sounds like it(great sound) and the music is good too, but Metallica have only made one ok album in all this time and longer and thats Death Magnetic and it sounds not so good.
but at least we will have some good bands back on the radio and charts for some time, AC/DC, Metallica and GNR( or Axl Rose band or whatever).
its better then Nickelback or Linkin Park and all that shit.
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COMMENT | Chi Dem
posted by : 11/19/2008 8:24:22 PM
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My CD is sitting at a UPS "regional processing facility" in Atlanta, GA....... ...... ...... ...... 210 more miles to go....... I feel like it's taking forever to get here, LOL
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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666 11/19/2008 9:44:35 PM
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1st day buyer of chi dem.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/19/2008 9:44:51 PM
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It's not GNR without Slash! He wears that neat hat! He is the band!
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COMMENT | Nikki's wrong...
posted by : 11/19/2008 9:46:21 PM
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it is NOT a "phenominal Axl Rose solo record".
IT'S A BUNCH OF CRAPPY BALLADS! The only 2 "rockin' songs on there are totally generic.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 11/19/2008 11:21:41 PM
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I gotta say that NO ONE here is jealous of the rock stars. This BS statement has to end. The SAME PEOPLE that LIKE many bands REALLY don't like others and are perceptive to BS!! I like some bands and others I don't. Since I don't like some then that makes me JEALOUS?!?!? What a simple, typical, pahetic reply to someone who happens not to like certain bands. I didn't know that wasn't allowed! I guess you have to like every lucky regular person who has the fortune of selling records for the labels that promote them excessively. What fucking BS!! There is a lot mof music I fucking hate and I am not fucking jealous at all!! Believe me, you couldn't pay me the world to be in their shoes! I guess that makes me jealous too! Anyone who says this is a fucking, stupid, typical asshole with no facts whatsoever! FUCK OFF!
Slash, BTW, was a much bigger part of G'N'R then people are saying!! See, I'm not jealous of him, in fact, I'm quite a fan. He is someone I'd much rather hear than Bucketfucking head or Malmsteen - ANYDAMNDAY!!! Slash is unique and I recognize him from a mile away with his melodies and feel. Can't say that about the typical shredder racing up and down modal's, harmonic minors, and diatonics etc. There is NOTHING there but that same BS shred sound that I am getting real sick of yet again. Moderation maybe but excess - forget about it!
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COMMENT | I don't know dude...
posted by : 11/20/2008 12:58:59 AM
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I'm not blown away by Chinese Democracy, but it sure sounds like a GnR album to me.
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posted by : 5551212 11/20/2008 1:07:04 AM
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Nikki,where is that child you adopted and then disowned? Are you going to buy him a gift for Xmas? ANd who are you to talk shit about a band that took you and your band on THEIR tour? Just keep your mouth between Kat Von D's legs and shit the fuck up.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by : 11/20/2008 4:48:19 AM
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both Nikki and Axl are great and have made some great music throughout the years. i dont realy care if its Axl Rose band or whatever, its great music and thats what counts. i just hope he will make another album soon, and Slash and Duff also with new singer
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posted by : 11/20/2008 6:12:44 AM
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For what it's worth. I've always felt both motley crue and GnR were/are incredibly gay... both of them are pretty much walking mockeries of metal...
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posted by : 3528888 12/6/2008 5:22:22 PM
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I think yer being exposed Mr. Ferrana, haha. Methinks the whinin' t'aint gonna work for ya anymore now that we all know yer a child abuser. Maybe you should go say sorry to yer Mommy for blaming her all yer life, now that yer even lower than her. You should now better, you stupid fuck.
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posted by : dellkell 1/14/2009 10:28:34 PM
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I agree with Nikki.....Great solo album
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