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Jailed LIZZY BORDEN Guitarist Claims Veganism Not Recognized By Facility As 'Valid And Sincere'
- Jan. 10, 2009
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Current LIZZY BORDEN guitarist Ira Black, who has previously played with METAL CHURCH, VICIOUS RUMORS and HEATHEN, has gone on a hunger strike at the Los Angeles County Jail because he claims that veganism is not being recognized by the facility as "valid and sincere." Ira was taken into custody the morning of January 3, 2009 on a misdemeanor charge (he apparently had a warrant out for his arrest for an unpaid fine) and is being held on $65,000 bail. Black's fiancée says that the guitarist "has been in the system for over a week now and has had to survive on a miniscule diet. Ira has been a vegan for 15 years and it seems none of the local correctional facilities will accommodate any inmate with a vegetarian or vegan diet. They will give inmates with medical problems or religious beliefs a different meal, but there is no concern for the vegetarians/vegans. "He feels very strongly about this and has gone on a 'hunger strike' until his release later this month to show how serious this should be taken. The situation has been escalating hour by hour. He is now being mistreated by the guards and was forced to take off a sign he was wearing that said 'hunger strike.' He is also being coerced by deputies to 'just go with the system' and eat the food that is provided. He is being threatened and is worried he will be punished in unknown ways just for requesting a meal of vegetables and/or fruit. " Ira spoke to a chaplain at the jail, and they both feel like this is an issue which needs to be made public and dealt with. Ira stated: 'If I can just get the word out so that people will start calling the jail, there can be some changes made. I want people to know how legitimate and sincere veganism and vegetarianism is and this is a serious human-rights issue, I'm not just trying to manipulate the system.' " Ira has also contacted other musicians, local media and PETA regarding this issue." For more information about Ira's arrest, search for his name on The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department Inmate Information Center. Lacey Conner, villainess co-star of VH1's hit TV show "Rock of Love" featuring POISON's Bret Michaels, conducted an interview with Ira Black at last year's winter NAMM (January 2008). Watch the chat below. 
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/10/2009 11:03:02 PM
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mmmmmm.. steak... one juicy steak can cure any fkn vegan.
and, $65k bail for a fucking misdemeanor? WTF is wrong with LA, when OJ can go free for killing two people, yet it costs $65k for a fkn MISDEMEANOR!
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COMMENT | Sheesh
posted by : 1/10/2009 11:19:26 PM
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It's rare for people to actually put into practice what they actually believe. Good for Ira Black. Unlike the other poster or poser here who can't think for himself and believes the police and the American justice system is free from corruption and has the best interest of the citizens at heart.
Going to jail on a misdemeanor charge? Looks like the US has something in common with countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran. So much for your freedom loving country. Its a lie.
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posted by : RiotAct666 1/10/2009 11:23:03 PM
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If you commited a crime , then you will be doing time in jail. simple as that.
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COMMENT | awww poor guy
posted by : 1/10/2009 11:24:25 PM
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cry us a river....please
its tough being a derelict huh?
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posted by : 1/10/2009 11:27:59 PM
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Doing time in jail has nothing to do with following a specific diet. If he is a vegan, he should be allowed to follow that diet. The system is also inconsistent, because they make exceptions for religious reasons... Meaning they have vegan/vegetarian/kosher meals. Why not just give him a damn piece of fruit?
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COMMENT | Trash Can Man
posted by : 1/10/2009 11:28:11 PM
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You go to jail on misdemeanor when you are a repeat offender. You think $65,000 bail came out of no where?
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COMMENT | What a b&%ch...
posted by : rocknrolla 1/10/2009 11:32:01 PM
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That's the most 'un-metal' thing I've ever heard.
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COMMENT | cheeseburgers
posted by : 1/10/2009 11:51:57 PM
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I should eat a cheeseburger in front of Ira Black to see the reaction.
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COMMENT | NAMM
posted by : alanr666 1/10/2009 11:57:11 PM
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well, i just found the answer when i wondered if i would be seeing Ira at NAMM this week! haha
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COMMENT |
posted by : me...? 1/11/2009 12:03:28 AM
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anyone who honestly believes that a person would be held in jail for a misdemeanor with a bond as high as $65,000 is an idiot.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 12:08:59 AM
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In America, if you commit a crime, you go to jail. And that entails certain punishments. So I hope he enjoys his stale bologna sandwiches.
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posted by : 1/11/2009 12:17:09 AM
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"posted by : Trash Can Man 1/10/2009 11:19:26 PM It's rare for people to actually put into practice what they actually believe. Good for Ira Black. Unlike the other poster or poser here who can't think for himself and believes the police and the American justice system is free from corruption and has the best interest of the citizens at heart.
Going to jail on a misdemeanor charge? Looks like the US has something in common with countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran. So much for your freedom loving country. Its a lie."
paxil
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COMMENT | Wait....
posted by : 1/11/2009 12:17:11 AM
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So they're both named Ira?!?!?!
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COMMENT | Nope
posted by : 1/11/2009 1:14:44 AM
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Her name is Sundae---odd way to write the article. Ira is a good guy. Not sure what M is 50,000 and another at 15,000. The sentence is 32 days according to court site, but that's always inflated.
And whats wrong requesting fruits and veggies? That should be an easy request. And just because he is in jail doesn't mean he's guilty. he's being held until there is a hearing. But that confuses the issue of the 32 days...
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COMMENT |
posted by : Grusome 1/11/2009 1:23:28 AM
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm necrosteaks mmmmmmmmmmmmmm yummy what a douche lick the floor if your hungry
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 2:20:56 AM
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QUOTE: You're lucky being stupid and ignorant is not a crime or else you'd be put away for life. Saudi Arabia and Iran? For fuck's sake, stfu.
He's there for a good reason and you know less than nothing about the case.
Spare me the ridiculous hippie speech, you douschebag. This is the LA County Jail and has the more left-winger dickheads running the County. If he had a case that had any validity, the libtards would bend over backwards to satisfy his wants.
This guy is probably a repeat offender and is in jail where he belongs. We definitely need a lot more people like him, in jail where they belong. ------------------------------ And now YOU know more than something about the case and his offenses? It sounds as if you're the idiot.
"People like him"? Like what? You don't even know the alleged crime nor do you even know him.
And now "metal heads" can you show all of us what the Metal Menu should be since most of us didn't know if you ate vegetables only, you were not able to be "metal"..
Blabbermouth: Good Site Blabbermouth readers: Mostly Buffoons
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COMMENT | so there's a metal diet
posted by : And Then There Were None 1/11/2009 2:33:13 AM
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and an anti-metal diet?
yeah, metal fans are really fucking revolutionary.
if you don't get irony i'll be literal: metal has some of the most ignorant, judgmental, conformist fans on the planet.
cheers.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 2:34:21 AM
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I like how people believe that all standards should be altered so that they're comfortable and happy, even when in jail. So you don't get to choose your own menu? I think that's just the nature of jail, that it really sucks. If that's the worst thing that happens then count your blessings.
As for being locked up for an unpaid fine... that does seem a little weird. Must be one hell of a fine.
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COMMENT | Hey Ira
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger 1/11/2009 2:40:20 AM
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If you thought eating meat was bad for you.....wait 'til you drop the soap!!!!!
Come on......what is next????? Someone complaining that you can't drink alcohol in jail??????
As for your rights......don't commit a crime then ASSMUPPET!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 3:10:16 AM
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you should learn to spell before you type asshole
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COMMENT | specific diet?
posted by : 1/11/2009 3:21:01 AM
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pay your fines.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 5:49:58 AM
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wtf is that hanging off his chin??!
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COMMENT | wow...
posted by : enviternal 1/11/2009 5:50:02 AM
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Well... I, myself, as a California taxpayer, have to say; I'm glad for the hunger strike. That's less that I have to pay. In fact, in the course of his incarceration, however trivial the charge may seem, he also needs to remember that he is being punished. As an addendum to his punishment, I do not feel that it is cruel or unusual for him to have to eat non-vegan food. As long as the food is nutritious enough for sustenance, I couldn't really care less about the food that is given to inmates. If I were to find myself incarcerated, I would have to face facts as well. The next thing you know, they'll give him vegan food, and then he's going to whine and cry about the fact that it doesn't taste good. Good for him. Middle fingers up to that guy.
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COMMENT | Seriously...
posted by : Cornloaf 1/11/2009 5:52:47 AM
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"He is being threatened and is worried he will be punished in unknown ways just for requesting a meal of vegetables and/or fruit."
Seriously, he can just get the meal they serve him, trade the piece of meat for another inmate's fruits and vegetables, and double up...
This quote is from a vegan/vegetarian website "Vegatarians in Paradise":
VIP's advice to protesters and activists: STAY OUT OF JAIL. Although there is some movement to accommodate vegans, most state and local facilities are not going to offer vegans a wholesome meal. Federal prisons obviously offer diverse vegan options.
As for the posters saying that Vegan is not metal, I disagree... The fact he talked (cried) to the prison chaplain about his prison food is not metal.
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COMMENT | And to clarify the LAPD records :
posted by : Cornloaf 1/11/2009 6:22:11 AM
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He was picked up on January 3 by the RAIL UNIT PATROL, held and released on January 5 at 6:52PM. Arrested at Superior Court on January 6 at 912am and sentenced to LA Men's Central Jail at 1119 AM January 6. Scheduled for release on January 17.
Ira Black was tried and found guilty for resisting arrest back in 2005 in Van Nuys. He had THREE years to clear this shit up. I have no sympathy.
Name: BLACK , IRA KURTLEY Case Number LAV5PN07500-01 Filed At Van Nuys Courthouse West Filing Date 12/05/2005 Limited Jurisdiction Count Charge Code Charge Description** Disposition Disposition Date 01 148(A) PC RESIST ARREST/PUBLIC OFFICER Guilty/Convicted 03/06/2006
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COMMENT | .
posted by : 1/11/2009 7:53:47 AM
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DESTROY THE FUCKING SYSTEM
THE MACHINE WILL EAT YOU BEFORE YOU TAKE NOTICE
ALL OF YOU SUPPORTING JAIL, WAR PRESIDENTS AND POLICE CAN FUCK OFF
YOU ARE NOT METAL - YOU ARE JUST A BUNCH OF POSERS
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posted by : VUDU 1/11/2009 8:12:15 AM
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I like the states, I really do, but it is so easy to go to jail. Sadly many of the posters here actually justify the system with statements "you should have paid the fine", for misdemeanors you should get a letter in the mailbox stating your fine is doubled and so forth, your car is impounded, not go to jail.
Freedom is an empty word, if you sway just a little it's taken away from you
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COMMENT | re
posted by : sonic the girl 1/11/2009 8:29:54 AM
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Lacey = worst interviewer ever.
get Nicky Black in there.
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COMMENT | Hm
posted by : 1/11/2009 8:48:21 AM
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Thank you VUDU
With the volume of pro government posts here I'd say Metal is on it's death bed.
I generally wouldn't trust the government authorities to protect my interests as much as they protect their own.
Blabberdale. Keep straight. Wash your cloths, make sure your hair is perfectly cropped. Do what authority tells you to think, say and and believe and you are fully justified self righteous indignation. You are a model citizen. Good boy.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 9:04:22 AM
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what a douchebag.
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COMMENT | $65,000 fine
posted by : 1/11/2009 9:20:11 AM
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Now is that the 10 % he has to pay? Which would make the amount $650,000! Or does he have to pay 10% of the $65,000?
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COMMENT | Using stfu, lol, imho....
posted by : mastronaut 1/11/2009 9:26:56 AM
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is about as metal as Hanna Montana...
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : 1/11/2009 9:39:06 AM
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The dude is in jail for 32 days because he had a warrant out for a fine. In most states if you don't pay the fine even if its small then they put out a warrant for your arrest. That means if you get stopped you are going to jail no matter what. He is serving 32 days because that is the amount of jail time needed to pay off his fine since it appears he does not have the money to do so. That is why he is in jail for a misdemeanor. His own stupid fault to be fined in the first place, second to not pay it and get a warrant out on him, and third to still not pay it and get caught. I feel no pity for him.
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COMMENT | Merle
posted by : 1/11/2009 10:34:58 AM
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I am sure there are other dangerous people besides "black people" you dumb rascist. Try moving to a communist country or some poor third world country in Africa I am sure it is slightly worse than America.
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COMMENT | NO . . . FUCK YOU MERLE
posted by : Angry Johnny 1/11/2009 10:39:38 AM
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America is a great country filled with lots of great people. We have quite a few nutcases, but that's true anywhere that human beings live and breed.
What a fucking douchebag you are. America is populated with millions and millions of people that can spell better than you.
Finally, FUCK your racist "dangerous black people" bullshit. I'm constantly amazed at how stupid the average Blabbermouth poster seems to be, but every once in awhile, some knuckledragging fuckface comes along and has to be crowned "Our New Champion of Douchebaggery".
Congratulations.
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COMMENT | please
posted by : 1/11/2009 11:16:10 AM
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to merle and trash can man,please do us all a favor and leave already if you hate this country so much.just tell me though in what other country would you be so free to express your hatred and contempt?you are beyond worthless and don not deserve the freedoms and liberties we have here.and where is it written you must have certain political beliefs to listen to metal? just because I am conservitive does not mean I can't rock out. and what excatly are you kids rebelling against?the right to have your parents buy you everything you want and drive nice cars?yea listen that grunt and growl shit you call metal that will show them how rebellious you are.me I just crank up the classic metal like AC/DC,PRIEST and Maiden when hear that shit and it drowns the noise out.
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COMMENT | I love this country.
posted by : FreedomOfSpeech 1/11/2009 11:28:01 AM
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No complaints. Enough said.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 11:52:46 AM
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Best thread I've read in a while.
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COMMENT | Fuck
posted by : 1/11/2009 11:54:55 AM
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First of all, what does eating have to do with metal? Who cares what he eats.
Also, as much as I sympathize, how hard is it to eat around the steak.
Also, as much as I may not understand the whole vegan thing entirely, are they so low on vegatables that they can't spare a single one. Jeez someone mail the guy some turnips and a juicer.
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COMMENT | "veganism"...
posted by : 1/11/2009 11:59:08 AM
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uh... if it's so "good" for you:
1) Why does every single vegan I know look totally and completely unhealthy?
2) Why can't any vegan I know, name 3 people over the age of 80 who are vegans? I can name dozens of people I know over the age of 80, but not one of them is a vegan. If veganism was so healthy, why aren't there 100 year old vegans running around?
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COMMENT | ???
posted by : 1/11/2009 12:01:42 PM
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Meat is to yummy for lawbreakers anyway give em some broccoli. See that was easy.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 12:03:30 PM
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Trade your meat to another inmate for his veggie. Again easy.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 12:32:26 PM
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he is in jail, so he has to eat the food in front of him. i want to ONLY eat buffalo wings, hamburgers, and cookies, but if i was in prison i couldnt eat anything i want, so this asshole shouldnt be given the chance to get what he wants either.
veganism is a choice. and stupid fucking one at that.
i hope he sees ther error of his ways.
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COMMENT | Douche
posted by : 1/11/2009 1:13:09 PM
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There's plenty of fruits for him to eat while in jail.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Old Fart 1/11/2009 1:44:29 PM
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Your bail is not just set based on the crime but also the risk of flight. When you have money and a passport, the bail will be higher.
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COMMENT |
posted by : tunes 1/11/2009 2:43:50 PM
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Rumor has it that his sloppy performance on the last tour had something to do with his outstanding warrant. Also to add that there is a good chance he won't be returning to the band after doing a months "hardtime". It appears that some eles will be taking his position as lead guitarist in the near future.
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COMMENT | Wow,idiots everywhere
posted by : 1/11/2009 2:44:56 PM
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First of all I would like to add that this act is completely wrong,and I'm not sure if other charges were included for that amount of bail but if the man wants his fruits and veggies then let him be.To that comment about Veganism is not Metal (won't mention names) so I'm guessing you look and feel cool with your Leather jacket,throwing your horn's in the air? This man has been doing this for 15 yrs and half of you won't and can't do this for a week or at least do something that will benefit your health.So to those who appose it's alright this is a choice and a lifestyle.Much love to everyone no disrespect.Vegan love.Now give me some Brutal truth with no Colon Cancer.
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COMMENT | IRA BLACK HUNGER STRIKE SITE
posted by : 1/11/2009 5:06:18 PM
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http://www.myspace.com/444682599
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COMMENT | Tunes is a fool
posted by : pimpsauce 1/11/2009 6:07:01 PM
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I seen these guys on the last tour and Ira was the best thing about the band. Super cool dude. He probably got arrested for rockin to hard. My only complaint about the show was the other dude on guitar, talk about sloppy. That guy should be replaced asap, super gay stage moves too. Stay strong Ira keep eating nuts and berries bro, more hamburgers for me :}
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COMMENT | pimpsauce can eat a5lbs bag of dick
posted by : tunes 1/11/2009 6:31:43 PM
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Just because I'm in the know about all things bordon and you have to wonder what its like to have the real scoop on whats going on, I know fact. Yea I saw their L.A. show, maybe 75 people showed. sad..... I had to leave after a few songs but i will agree that it is totally unecessary to have a second guitarist in that band. they would sound much tighter and not look so gay if they got rid of the dead weight with the over inflated ego.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/11/2009 11:13:55 PM
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I don't sympathize with this guy at all. The only case he's got is why they should make exceptions for religious reasons, but not him.
That being said, the judicial system, and the laws in this country are complete shit. Luckily cops seem to be some of the most retarded people on the planet, so not getting caught for things that shouldn't be outlawed in the first place is fairly simple.
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COMMENT | He
posted by : 1/12/2009 1:40:53 PM
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He could join another band - Thin Lizzy!
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COMMENT |
posted by : 1/12/2009 2:44:13 PM
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Seems like Ira is the primary one with the problem here. That being said, give the guy a little extra on the veggie and fruit portions- in one way or the other - and that is that. No one else has taken this issue pertaining to vegans in jail to this extent so give him a little extra fruits & veggies and take out the meat.
Yet at the same time, when you're locked up, you're not supposed to be enjoying the meals there unless you have a lot of money, then there are priviliges. Veganism isn't only for dietary purposes but moral reasons also. If it was only for his dietary reasons, then too bad. If it is because he is solely against the slaughtering of animals, well that's almost religious within itself. He shouldof just said it was against his damn religion to eat slaughtered animals. This could of avoided a lot of issues that might actually end up with him becoming the assmuppet of the Yr in the LA men's correctional facility.
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COMMENT | blabberdale ,riotact666 & others who "think" the way you do
posted by : 1/12/2009 10:29:03 PM
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HEY AMERICAN LOSERS WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!! , wow i can't believe the level of unbelievable ignorance coming from this post.man you people are so totally un rock'n'roll!!!! ,ever wondered why america is a fucken joke ???with all this bullshit about "land of the free"...what a fucken pathetic joke!!! ,man you get locked up for anything over there,the cops have complete & unquestioned control/authority/brutality , it's beyond rational descritpion.i being from australia consider myself so goddamn lucky. i have been charged multiple times over the years with offences such as:stealing ,fraud,common assault,aggravated assault,assault occasioning bodily harm,forgery,breach of probation,breach of bail,possession of schedule 1 narcotic(heroin),shoplfting ,which by the way is only a summary offence in australia which means no matter how many times someone gets caught shoplifting they NEVER recieve a prison sentence for stealing anything under the retail value of $150.YES all of the charges are for real & they're only the ones i can remember , like i said i've been to court multiple times , when i've bothered to turn up to court that is :),have been found or pleaded guilty multiple times & have NEVER spent a day in prison , jail or whatever the fuck you wanna call it.sure my history makes me sound like a REAL criminal ,but seeing as i don't have any charges like armed robbery or violence against the police to my name,i've always had the benefit of walking out of court with either a fine( which i never bother to pay:)) ,probation(which by the way we DON'T have to pay for ,unlike you oh so "lucky" americans) or a suspended sentence (in 5 days i will have completed my 4th suspended sentence without incident ,not coz i didn't do anything,but coz i did'nt get caught:) ) ,man if i was in your "great" country i'd still be in jail for the very first offences i was busted for back in 1993.so fuck your "do the crime do the time" bullshit , you fuckers who think this way are are a bunch of conservative ,conformist, narrow minded,ignorant redneck losers , why are you into metal anyway ??metal is for people who don't follow the rules & live by their own , that's the problem with you americans,you would'nt know what the fuck freedom is if your miserable excuses for a life depended on it.& another thing ,they don't lock people away coz of unpaid fines down here ,i have a list of fines dating back 6 years ago that i still havn't & won't pay for & you know what ?? i'm still able to leave the country & go to metal festivals in europe without the slightest hassle , either from austrlian customs or euopean customs & i've been to europe 4 times in the last 5 years & NEVER had a hassle....oh but god fucken forbid if i ever attempted to go to america.i know without a doubt i would NEVER be able to step foot in america with my exstensive history & after seeing this post & all the really ultra-right wing ,ultra conservative vomit that has been puked out by you miserable fucks ,i'm not sure i would ever want to come to your shitty country.No i'm not some dreadlocked ,unshowered lefty & i'm not that proud of my rap sheet ,only coz i was caught that many times & i ain't no australian patriot either , i don't vote (voting makes NO difference the cops will ALWAYS be there!!) but the apparent unparalleled ignorance i've seen here is disturbing & enrages me.now i realize how lucky i am that we have a VERY tolerant system here , NO 3 strikes.only 2 days ago i was spoken to by the cops for nodding off (obviously being under the influence of heroin) in a public place , all they told me to do was to move along & that was it , no name check,no bag or body check , nothing.i wasn't getting any "special" treatment ,but you americans ,i heard that f the cops drug test you over there & it comes back positive that you can get done for "internal possession" , what the fuck???.....what kind of fucken joke charge is that ?? & basically anytime/everytime the cops are called on any individual for ANY reason jail time is THE definite result -only in good old america.once again i'm gobsmacked beyond words at how easy it is to be thrown in jail over the most trivial crap.i know it looks (according to my rap sheet) like i got away with murder practically ,if i got caught for any of this in your "wonderful"country i would be doing life & i hav'nt even murdered anyone.NO i don't have fancy lawyers(the australian government pays for my lawyers thru a service called legal aid) & am certainly NOT related to anyone in the police force ,prosecution or a judge that i've gotten away with my list of charges(& we don't have this stupid thing you call felonies) THAT many times without a prison sentence -EVER.australia is just more accepting & realistic of the fact that-people DO make mistakes ,no one is perfect & that we deserve a second chance.big deal i stole things(& still do :) ) , got into fights , used false I.D.'s to buy prescription drugs & sold (& still sell) stolen goods, had drugs on me(heroin),failed to appear in court ,violated my probation.... ALL multiple times ,so does that make me less of a human ??,should i spend an eternity in jail for apart from the assaults committing basically victimless crimes ?? i don't have to think twice about what kind of opinion 1 of you conservative fucks would have of either me or our legal system , which is infinitley & incomparably more forgiving than your wanker fuck american system.i'm not anti-american either just against conservative , ignorant fucks who believe that their corrupt , anti-human , anti -freedom system works ,yeah wait til the day you become a vicitm of american police brutality.....so what did ira black do that was so heinous ?? not pay a fine ?? , what was the original charge ?? probably NOTHING ,& they want $65000 bail for an unpaid fine ?? , what a fucken shameful waste of resources & you patriotic fucks are proud of "your" country.....seriously fuckwits -get a life ,you wankers DON'T belong in the church of metal & the other losers who think being vegetarian is unmetal , you can all get fucked as well.....i am absolutley repulsed at the ignorance i have witnessed here.....beyond abnormal......beyond hope.....
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COMMENT | WOW
posted by : ENEMENCIO123 1/22/2009 9:50:44 PM
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ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS??? THIS IS CRAZY!!! I DONT UNDERSTAND... WHATS THE POINT HERE??? WHATS GOING ON??? LIZZY BORDEN HAS ALWAYS ROCKED!!! AND ALWAYS WILL... A TRUE BAND THAT HAS OUTLASTED ALOT OF OTHERS FOR SURE...
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COMMENT | OH YEAH
posted by : ENEMENCIO123 1/22/2009 9:52:34 PM
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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA RULES THE WHOLE WORLD!!! WE ARE THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH!!!
GOD BLESS THE USA!!!
AND GOD BLESS ALL OF US IN IT TOO!!!
ROCK N ROLL FOR EVER!!! ENEMENCIO123...
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COMMENT | wow
posted by : 1/26/2009 11:43:35 AM
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I have heard when IB was in Vicious Rumors he smoked pole
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