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Guitarist JIM MARTIN Not Taking Part In Rumored FAITH NO MORE Reunion
- Feb. 18, 2009
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Rumors are gaining momentum that the hugely influential '90s alt-metal band FAITH NO MORE is planning to reunite for a number of European festival appearances this summer. A source close to guitarist Jim Martin, who was in the group from 1983 until 1993, has told BLABBERMOUTH.NET that the axeman expressed interest in taking part in the reunion after being recently contacted by keyboardist Roddy Bottum and a member of FAITH NO MORE's management team, but that the band inexplicably decided to utilize a different guitarist — believed to be one of several musicians that were in FAITH NO MORE following Martin's exit from the group — for the upcoming dates. Although Kerrang! magazine reported in November that a number of U.K. concert venues had been placed on hold for FAITH NO MORE dates next spring, bassist Billy Gould downplayed the speculation, saying, "If anything like this were to happen, it would have to come from the band, and I haven't spoken with any of them in over a year." Meanwhile, U.K. promoter Andy Copping also said FAITH NO MORE's return this year was unlikely, telling Metal Hammer, " FAITH NO MORE haven't managed to get that PR machine together ... All of the band members haven't agreed to do it." Martin left FAITH NO MORE in 1993 due to "internal conflicts" and was replaced by FNM singer Mike Patton's MR. BUNGLE bandmate Trey Spruance. Trey also exited soon after recording 1995's "King for a Day... Fool for a Lifetime", just before the band was to begin a world tour. Spruance was replaced by Dean Menta, the band's guitar roadie. FAITH NO MORE's final studio CD, "Album of the Year", was released in 1997 and featured yet another new guitarist, Jon Hudson, who was a former roommate of Billy Gould. 
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COMMENT | That sucks.
posted by : juanneman
2/18/2009 2:37:04 AM
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Haven´t they settled their differences after so long? A VERY big disappointment if Jim does not take part, he was imagewise and guitarwise a distinctive force in the band. I don´t find it as a FULL reunion, a VERY big letdown. If they play live, I would consider seriously not going to see them, though I am very pissed off at the moment, who knows later.
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COMMENT | Why would he want to re-join them, anyway?
posted by : Tama Basher
2/18/2009 2:40:00 AM
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He's got an awesome new gig growing giant pumpkins.
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COMMENT | No Martin, No Way!
posted by :
2/18/2009 2:54:20 AM
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This is almost like the Van Halen debacle all over again....What is with these bands, it almost ends up ruining all the excitement of a reunion when this kind of situation comes up....
Real Thing/Angel Dust line-up \m/
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 3:07:46 AM
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While I love the Jim martin Era Faith No More, they did go on to release alot of cool stuff after his departure as well. I'll be there either way if they play here in the states.
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COMMENT | Great news
posted by :
2/18/2009 3:08:35 AM
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IMO band got better after Jim Martin left them. Angel Dust was great but Martin didn't write a lot on that album.
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COMMENT | fnm the bomb
posted by :
2/18/2009 3:10:47 AM
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any fnm reunion would be fucking amazing considering the tension within the band for so long when they were together. King for a day their best album imo
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COMMENT | king for a day
posted by :
2/18/2009 3:23:10 AM
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the best album of FAITH NO MORE!!!
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COMMENT | No Jim Martin means...
posted by :
2/18/2009 3:29:03 AM
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No care from me...
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COMMENT | No Jim Martin means no
posted by :
2/18/2009 4:11:11 AM
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STATION!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | cry
posted by : youcunt
2/18/2009 4:37:31 AM
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Listen sooks - they'll have a cardboard cut out of Jim Martin on stage with someone else on guitars. Happy?
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COMMENT | Well if they want to get previous members...
posted by :
2/18/2009 5:04:02 AM
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they should get Courtney Love instead of Patton
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COMMENT | Jim
posted by : elpee
2/18/2009 5:04:38 AM
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Was really great in the early days of the band, but some of the best stuff they did was Angel Dust & beyond, which he didn't have much or any say in.
I got my donington ticket at the weekend so if they confirm I'll be well chuffed!!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 5:37:22 AM
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Screw him then. Just get Brian Welch to fill in since FNM and Korn are pretty much the same band.
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COMMENT | theres hope yet!!!!
posted by :
2/18/2009 5:38:52 AM
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i really do hope they settle their differences and re-unite..i never got the chance to see this superb band live, theyre one of the greatest influential bands in rock history..
as for jim martin..i couldnt give a fuck if he re-united or not..id be very happy if Jon Hudson were to re-unite with them
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COMMENT | Not Taking Part In Rumored FAITH NO MORE Reunion
posted by : paine
2/18/2009 6:00:52 AM
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neither am i
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COMMENT | The core
posted by :
2/18/2009 6:03:11 AM
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The core of FNM is Bottum, Gould, and Bordin. While Patton is the poster boy, and Martin is the popular choice, technically a reunion could go on without them. Gould said so in an article about 3-5 years ago.
Anyway, I'd go see them no matter who fills the guitar slot... as long as it's not Dean. YUK.
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COMMENT | That won't be a true reunion
posted by :
2/18/2009 6:56:05 AM
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They will probably recruit the guitarist from Album Of The Year, which is the worst FNM guitarist in the history. He was in the band only because he was a close friend of Gould. And that is why Jim Martin is not in the reunion line-up. For me, Martin was a definitive part of FNM's sound, and they have never been the same since he departed. Angel Dust was their last classic, and although he didn't have much input on it songwritingwise, his unique guitar sound and playing was there.
So no Jim Martin = No real reunion for me.
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COMMENT | Please!!!!
posted by : alex kelly
2/18/2009 7:01:16 AM
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fUCKING TOTAL BOLLOCKS OF A "BAND"
Easy is enema. Give me fucking strength. The only decent thing abaout this "band" was Jim and he is better off out of it. Giant pumpkins or not.
Never ever ever liked this "BAND"
sHIT SHIT SHIT
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COMMENT |
posted by : Ykarus
2/18/2009 7:19:15 AM
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this is stupid...come on...if Jim doesnt play , this whole reunion thing is crap...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 7:40:08 AM
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If Jim was to partake, you'd get no songs from KFAD or AOTY. As much as I like FNM, I wish they'd just leave it in the past. Maybe release a live album, and cap their legacy.
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COMMENT | Squanto Marley
posted by : monstro
2/18/2009 8:02:19 AM
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I understand your point but a reunion with Chuck Mosely would be a complete joke. Patton is the frontman. Now for the guitar player... I would prefer Jim martin, but what about the songs he wasn´t involved with... that would be a problema, probably.
I don´t see this reunion happening... yet I would like to, I´ve seen them twice (with Jim) and it´s one of the best shows I have ever seen...
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COMMENT |
posted by : juanneman
2/18/2009 8:05:59 AM
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`While Patton is the poster boy, and Martin is the popular choice, technically a reunion could go on without them. Gould said so in an article about 3-5 years ago.´
If that is true, the majority would not give a shit because someone so versatile as Patton (especially him) is not to be found easily, and someone like Martin would be easier, but he has struck very deep in the fans, and I disagree that he does not belong to the core, ´cause he´s been the axeman in the glory days of the band.
`I'd go see them no matter who fills the guitar slot.´ This makes no sense to me.
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COMMENT | At least get Dean Menta
posted by :
2/18/2009 8:14:49 AM
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He WAS a good guitarist.
Or for a better result, Trey Spurance. He's the guy who played on the last good FNM album King for a day.
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COMMENT | MARTIN is....
posted by : #1metalhead
2/18/2009 8:19:18 AM
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FAITH NO MORE (PERIOD)
but who knows what the future brings.hopefully us "faith" fans will get a re-union w/jim down the road.
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COMMENT |
posted by : rds
2/18/2009 8:41:58 AM
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ahhhhhh yes.................
Digging the grave...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 8:57:12 AM
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King For a Day probably is their best album and Trey was the guitarist for that, so hopefully it's him that fills in. This would be the most ultimate reunion ever! Fuck Van Halen, this would blow that one out of the water.
I think Chuck Mosely should be the singer for the reunion.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Dichatomy
2/18/2009 8:57:51 AM
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I'll believe it when I see it. I don't think it'll happen, but anything can (and does) happen. I saw them live when they were touring in support for Angel Dust, with Helmet opening for them. Relatively small venue, but it kicked ass. MTV was along for the ride at the time as well, which helped promote the concert in the area. Fairly decent turnout, pretty good concert. I though Helmet kind of sucked, but FNM put on a hell of a show.
Now, any time you have a band with different lineups, there will always be debate on who should play. I think most of us would agree with Mike Patton, although I have to admit seeing the band with Chuck again for a couple songs off of We Care A Lot or Introduce Yourself might not be so bad.
As for who plays the guitar, that's a bit harder, but I think I'd have to go with Jim Martin on this one too. Sure, they made two albums after his departure, but they went through more guitarists than that.
And so what if Jim were to play songs that he wasn't around for? What do you think other bands do, axe anything that their current lineup wasn't in the studio for?
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COMMENT |
posted by : madeinquebec
2/18/2009 9:14:36 AM
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Bongholes won't play.
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COMMENT | JM was all that was cool about FNM
posted by : megal0maniac
2/18/2009 9:18:36 AM
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they have no actual keys :P
and well Patton is a buffoon, while not an entirely bad vocalist n all, all his extreme projects are extremely pretentious and he comes off as a highly antagonistic and rather moronic individual by ie, making comments about other bands not being in the now, while he just yells and screams and grunts and sells records like that to teenage kids that just want to impress their peers and scare parents by being rebellious and anti-conformist ! Woa big deal.... only he takes that role too damn seriously ...
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COMMENT | Spoke to patton at the big day out
posted by : C.I.U
2/18/2009 9:36:02 AM
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And regarding the reunion he said he legally couldn't talk about it, fucking lawyers! But he reiterated that bungle is very DEAD!
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COMMENT | Another guitarist???
posted by :
2/18/2009 9:46:16 AM
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Do you knobs really think that Jim Martin isn't coherent enough to learn the songs from the albums he didn't play on?
I'm sure he's only been playing for 25+ years.....
Dumbasses.
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COMMENT | Faith No More can do without Jim
posted by : scumoftheearth
2/18/2009 10:01:34 AM
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As I understand it, Jim Martin quit the band (or was fired) after the rest of the bunch got fed up with his lack of self-discipline and drinking issues or whatever. Moreover, his guitar work isn't essential to the perfomance of the band as a whole - it's not a unique trademark of their sound IMO, and I've listened to FNM since the early 90's. He's a stand-up player, and he did some pretty nice riffs and licks in the past, but if it comes down to a bloke with personal problems and he can't cope with the rest of the band then they should go on without him. But without Patton this would be a futile attempt, if it's true that they're gonna reunite.
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COMMENT |
posted by : -deanerhead-
2/18/2009 10:14:18 AM
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No Chuck Mosely=No Introduce Yourself, Right On
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COMMENT | Martin or nothin...
posted by :
2/18/2009 10:19:20 AM
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Jim Martin is the only one with a trademark sound and presence, i say it's him or don't bother!
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COMMENT | good guitarist
posted by :
2/18/2009 10:23:48 AM
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good guitarist. hope he plays with fnm some more.
be cool to hear what him and kim thayil might come up with together in a band, too.
:)olc
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COMMENT | JIM MARTIN
posted by : StratoBOB
2/18/2009 10:36:16 AM
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FNM = Jim Martin!
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COMMENT | Let the dream die
posted by :
2/18/2009 10:46:00 AM
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I can't believe this story keeps popping up. As much as I'd love them to reunite, the chances are slim. I'd love for it to happen even with Mosely on vocals. Hard to picture tearing Bordin away from his dream job with the Ozzy band. And Patton these days seems more concerned about appearing on the cover of The Source.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
2/18/2009 11:22:42 AM
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If Jim Martin is up for it.......include him. Seems only fair that it was HIM who discovered and gave Patton his chance in FNM.
While I wouldn't boycott this if it happens with Jim, I would wear my FNM shirt with him on it(the one where they're all standing in their boxers).
C.I.U.- Yeah, I've read an interview or two where Patton has stated that Bungle is DEAD. Very SAD!!!!
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COMMENT | whoever!!!
posted by :
2/18/2009 11:29:59 AM
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whoever the guitar is, it really will not matter... i doubt that they will even reform, so it is kind of a moot point, but ok, Jim was great, Angel Dust was godly, but if you've seen them w/out him, as well as with him, you would know that he was not really missed, musically... He was great with them, don't get me wrong, though, it hardly matters...
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COMMENT | re
posted by : sonic the girl
2/18/2009 11:34:41 AM
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I would go if Jim played.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 11:36:43 AM
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i will still be excited but totally agree that Jim Martin should be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDvJTxZDbA
funny video of Mike Patton shooting down Wolfmother!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 11:38:57 AM
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has anyone ever noticed how Brandon Boyd of Incubus rips his vocal style off???
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COMMENT |
posted by : BonzoholicII
2/18/2009 11:42:08 AM
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I hear Wes Borland is going to be their guitar player.......for, like, 5 minutes and then go back to Limp.
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COMMENT | Brandon Boyd
posted by : heh
2/18/2009 11:45:50 AM
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Boyd and the other guys from Incubus are huge supporters of Patton/FNM/Bungle/Tomahawk/etc. Practically every interview I've seen from the guy features him wearing his influences on his sleeve; I can't fault him for that.
If you're gonna "rip someone off" (harder to do than it sounds), "rip off" the best.
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COMMENT | Fuck That
posted by : SilverMachine
2/18/2009 11:55:44 AM
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FNM did 2 good records without Jim Martin and did no great records without him. He was the anchor that kept everything grounded. He was also one of the main writers until Patton got there. No Jim Martin=no reunion.
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COMMENT | oh....
posted by : SilverMachine
2/18/2009 12:05:24 PM
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Whoever Said STATION. You win for coolest Jim Martin reference.
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COMMENT |
posted by : FAILURE
2/18/2009 12:26:26 PM
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Hopefully they will use Trey Spruance on guitar.
"King for a day" is their best album.
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COMMENT | ^
posted by : RiotAct666
2/18/2009 12:39:23 PM
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Angel Dust was their best IMO.
anyway hope Jim changes his mind and takes part in FNM reunion. someone send a Brinks truck to his house and give him the money.
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COMMENT | damn
posted by : Steve Guttenberg
2/18/2009 12:44:07 PM
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I really would have liked to see JIM involved.
to me that was the best FNM line-up
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COMMENT | Angel Dust lineup
posted by :
2/18/2009 1:27:44 PM
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or nothing as far as I'm concerned. Not to dis any other lineup, but they didn't hold the same (or, in some cases, any) interest for me.
#@!
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COMMENT | Neil youngs cocaine booger>
posted by : C.I.U
2/18/2009 2:46:01 PM
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Yeah he basically said it was because half the guys live in Australia, and half in the states, it just wasn't gonna work.
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COMMENT | No Jim Martin? Good.
posted by :
2/18/2009 2:57:47 PM
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The guy had no interest in creating anything new. Even during the making of Angel Dust you can hear him complain about how he didn't understand anything Patton and the other guys were doing. I would argue Angel Dust is their best album and that album had very little input from Big Jim. I would rather see Trey Spruance in the band.
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COMMENT | Who cares alot?
posted by :
2/18/2009 3:05:35 PM
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I don't. Jim taught all those guys how to play music.
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COMMENT | is easy !!!
posted by : Devil's Deja Vu
2/18/2009 4:51:24 PM
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get cc deville and start touring !!! hahahahaha
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COMMENT | i'll have to side with the pro-jim folks
posted by :
2/18/2009 5:42:26 PM
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i can't even understand why some of you don't consider his playing to be an integral part of what made faith no more so special. the black sabbath-esque thrash influenced razor sharp riffs and dissonant solos, combined with a funk influenced bassist and a powerhouse drummer prone to playing tribal rhythms, and then the keys floating on top of that....hell FNM were the first band i'd ever heard where i actually liked the keys and thought they added a lot as opposed to automatically making a band suck like they usually did. and then patton singing and rapping over the top of it. there was simply nothing else like it at the time. but even introduce yourself was a killer cd as well, all those elements were in place prior to patton joining the band....it just so happened that all those songs sounded better when patton sang them than when mosely did. introduce yourself, the real thing, and angel dust were all moster albums IMO, but when they lost jim the chemistry was gone. there was some decent stuff here and there afterwards but to me it was all hit or miss, and none of it had the ferocity they had when jim was in the band. it just seemed like they were desperately trying to keep the band alive, limping along while interest in the band waned and they eventually split up. i don't think the cd's the made after his departure were bad really, but i've always thought anybody who would actually champion those later cd's over their FAR superior earlier material likely never got to see that lineup live, so they really had no idea what they'd missed out on. and that was one of the best live bands i've ever seen.
anyway, bottom line for me is no jim = no reunion. which is sad because i've been hoping for one for a very, very long time.
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COMMENT | give Big Jim a break!
posted by : doug62069
2/18/2009 6:28:43 PM
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he needs to be part of this. I'm sorry, but as an early fan, I thought he was great fun, and King for A Day... and Album of the Year only have a few great songs here and there. What a run, though, before that, through Angel Dust!
Anyhoo, I'm not against catching an FNM show without him, I'm just sayin' ...
Also... I'm not knocking anyone's opinion, but what's the argument for King For A Day? I've heard that mentioned a few times on a few threads, and man, I just didn't connect with it. Talk to me, I am curious about others' opinions on this.
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COMMENT | WOw
posted by :
2/18/2009 7:16:06 PM
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All I know is that it wont be much a reunion without him. I sure wouldnt go see them!
RT
www.Privacy-Center.net
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COMMENT | jim martin is a legend...
posted by : deth n roll
2/18/2009 9:13:14 PM
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...but he just didnt play on
king for a day fool for a lifetime. aw shucks.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/18/2009 9:28:11 PM
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I'd rather see the band play with Jim than Mike... and Trey most definitely won't be a part of the band, considering that he and Mike aren't on speaking terms. Not only that, but Mike was the reason he got the gig and he didn't like all the touring. So definitely no Trey.
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COMMENT | omg
posted by :
2/18/2009 9:41:39 PM
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Such a cuttie. His photos were seen at millionaire persoanals site *****Love Wealthy . c om****last week. Is he in relationship with a pretty girl on that site now. -
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COMMENT |
posted by : rds
2/19/2009 8:57:08 AM
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FE NO MAS/ El Patron for a day El Patron for a lifetime...
easily one of their greatest... i need my FAXEDHEAD record back!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/19/2009 6:39:42 PM
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Trey Spruance would never take part in this. Never.
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COMMENT | Whoever said Jim didn't write Angel Dust?
posted by :
2/20/2009 2:04:11 AM
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Once he was gone, it was pretty plain his influence was also.
Do you want to erase the years Jim was in the band? Without those years, no one would know them.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/23/2009 4:21:32 AM
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At this point, Faith No More would just end up as another Patton project. Definitely wouldn't sound the same or be in the same vein as "Real Thing" and "Angel Dust".
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/24/2009 4:58:14 AM
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You freaking morons - what would they do?? play the Real Thing and some frigging Mosley Songs?? Wake up.
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COMMENT |
posted by : juanneman
2/26/2009 7:34:14 AM
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`A source close to guitarist Jim Martin, who was in the group from 1983 until 1993, has said that the axeman expressed interest in taking part in the reunion after being recently contacted by keyboardist Roddy Bottum and a member of Faith No More's management team, but that the band inexplicably decided to utilize a different guitarist for shows.´
No Jim Martin= no FNM
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COMMENT |
posted by :
2/26/2009 12:03:46 PM
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Imagine them opening up for Wolfmother....... lol
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COMMENT | The band sucks ass without Martin
posted by :
3/1/2009 2:38:15 PM
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I bought every one of their disks before Matin's departure, and never bought one after he left. The guy's guitar riffs were amazing and part of the reason they sold so many records. The replacement guitarists have been totally lame and frankly their music went downhill post Jim Martin.
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COMMENT | Online petition - Faith No More World Tour
posted by :
3/9/2009 6:17:38 AM
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http://www.gopetition.com.au/petitions/faith-no-more-world-tour.html
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COMMENT | Big Sick Jim Martin made FMN what it was...
posted by :
4/9/2009 9:33:12 PM
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Big Sick Jim grew up playing with Cliff Burton and James Heftield and played some really heavy rips. So there was not a lot of compromise when it came to keepin it real. Jim wanted more guitar sound in Angle Dust but Patten started whinning about it and cut it out. The only song on the album he took full control of was Dizzlobber which is arguably the best one song on the album. FNM wanted to become musicians and Big Sick Jim only wanted to play Rock n Roll.
Surprise Your, Dead Dizzlobber, Woodpeckers From Mars (Cliff Burton). FNM never made music like that after he left the band. There is really NO REUNION WITHOUT HIM.
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COMMENT | FNM would be up there with Zeppelin Rush VH & the Beatles
posted by :
8/29/2009 12:10:39 AM
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if they had kept Jim Martin. Angel Dust was pure genius, The World is Yours pure genius, everything after Jim left.....eh. Average.
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