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GEEZER BUTLER: 'If We'd Written This Album With OZZY, We'd Still Be Working On The First Track'
- Apr. 14, 2009
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HEAVEN & HELL/ BLACK SABBATH bassist Geezer Butler has told Decibel magazine that working with singer Ronnie James Dio is a hell of a lot easier than working with Ozzy Osbourne. " Ronnie's a songwriter in his own right — he's got tons of ideas," the bassist said. "Whereas Ozzy... in the old days, he'd come up with a vocal line and I'd write the lyrics. Ronnie is 100 percent involved in both the musical side and the vocal side, and he writes his own lyrics as well." Ozzy never took Butler's musical ideas seriously, either. "If we were with Ozzy and I came in with the killer riff of all time, Ozzy wouldn't even think of doing it because I'm not the guitarist and that's the way he thinks," Butler said. "When we tried to do a SABBATH album in 2001, we all gave each other CDs of our riffs or song ideas. Ozzy didn't even listen to mine. Because I'm not a guitarist, he felt I shouldn't be playing guitar. That's why it was so bloody hard to write anything." Geezer Butler on HEAVEN & HELL's debut CD, "The Devil You Know": "If we'd written this album with Ozzy, we'd still be working on the first track." The contrast between Ozzy and Dio comes into even sharper focus on tour. "It was great being with Ozzy on the road," HEAVEN & HELL/ BLACK SABBATH guitarist Tony Iommi enthuses. "We had a great time and we still will have hopefully at some point, but with Ronnie it's a lot different, because we go out and we know exactly what we're gonna be doing. With Ozzy, we didn't really know. It was touch and go sometimes on some of those early shows, whether he was gonna turn up, if he'd be able to sing, if his voice was gone, or what. We'd have to cancel shows, which Geezer and myself really hated. But with Ronnie, we've never cancelled a show. He'd have to be seriously, seriously ill before we cancelled a show." Read the entire interview in the May 2009 issue of Decibel magazine, available on newsstands now. For more information, visit DecibelMagazine.com 
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posted by :
4/14/2009 9:46:12 PM
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Way to tell it how it is, Geezer!
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posted by : Fani Dilth
4/14/2009 9:47:07 PM
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HAHAHA... Aint that the F-ing Truth !!!
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posted by : mrsromek
4/14/2009 9:52:30 PM
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I am a fan of Sabbath. However, is this just the case of a bass player being envious of the lead singer? Doesn't every band have this kind of shit going on? Ozzy is Ozzy, kinda like Manny being Manny.
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COMMENT | New CD Rocks
posted by :
4/14/2009 9:55:14 PM
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The new CD is Amazing I highly recommend it. but why crap on Ozzy??? I just don't understand that one at all.
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posted by :
4/14/2009 10:06:41 PM
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"but why crap on Ozzy??? I just don't understand that one at all."
Because Ozzy IS crap. He can't sing well, he plays no instruments and when he does write his own lyrics, they're cringe-worthy. Face it, he's the Britney Spears of metal.
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posted by : madeinquebec
4/14/2009 10:06:56 PM
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The sentence is ALWAYS taken out of context, that's why this site is called Blabbermouth.
Here's the real context. Ozzy:
1- is slow
2- is busy with his own projects and reality TV
3- Dio kicks ass and so does H&H
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/14/2009 10:07:14 PM
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The new album is GREAT and will be FANTASTIC when they play it in concert
http://www.diomessageboard.com
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COMMENT | Ya know...
posted by : CrazyIslander
4/14/2009 10:11:29 PM
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If that was the case, then why not write the "killer riff of all time", give it to Tony and let him pass it off as his?
If it resulted in a kick ass Sabbath album, who the hell cares?
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posted by : edrpz
4/14/2009 10:14:44 PM
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Ozzy couldn't write his own name in the snow even it Sharon was doing it for him.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by :
4/14/2009 10:17:02 PM
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Just leave him alone. Jesus. Why would you have to spout off about something like that now. Seems a bit late.
I can't wait for this album. I love Heaven and Hell but Heaven and Hell was never the album or band in the last 5, 10, 15, 20 years where I was like Jesus fucking christ I wish they'd just do one more album. I seriously doubt Ozzy is as much of a dick about it as all that. He loves those guys and the music they make. I think he probably loves them a bit too much actually. They seem to have free reign to walk all over him.
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posted by :
4/14/2009 10:17:36 PM
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I can't wait to hear the new Heaven & Hell album. I'll always be more of a fan of the original line ups albums more so than others but I'm really looking forward to hearing what Heaven & Hell have come up with.
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COMMENT | I heard it
posted by : Neglect
4/14/2009 10:26:21 PM
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If you liked "Dehumanizer," you'll like this.
Me, I'm a "Mob Rules" person. "TDYK" didn't do it for me.
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COMMENT | Rotting Elvis Pt. 6
posted by :
4/14/2009 10:31:47 PM
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ozzy and brittney spears dont belong in the same sentence. britney spears does not belong on a site that talks about hard rock and metal. has metal fans we should be ashamed or not even know who britney spears is
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COMMENT | HERE WE GO!
posted by :
4/14/2009 10:33:40 PM
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This debate will never end. Ozzy and Dio are like night and day. Ozzy wants to take his time because he is fearful, nothing can touch the classic Sabbath stuff and he is afraid that anything else could not stand up to it. Geezer has a good point but Sabbath will never be Sabbath without Ozzy and Bill. The emotions, good and bad, come on in the music. All the mystic forces and all the things these guys have been through together came out in the music. This album will be good but a true Sabbath would be better. They should just get together and see how the albums stand up to one another. In the early days Tony wrote the riffs so Ozzy is use to working off of him. He is a guitar guy, he had Geezer for the lyrics and Tony for the riffs. Black Sabbath is Black Sabbath and Heaven and Hell is Heaven Hell. People say its all Black Sabbath but its not. Like I said, the singers are like night and day and that is what makes the bands different. SABBATH FOREVER!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : MetallicaPuppet
4/14/2009 10:41:29 PM
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Geezer is offering the fans some honesty now that Black Sabbath is finally retired. That's right, Heaven and Hell is a brand new band. I have no doubt in my mind that Iommi couldn't continue with the Sabbath name while Ozzy was shitting all over the legacy.
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posted by :
4/14/2009 10:43:54 PM
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My, my, my, such a short memory Geezer! Here are some quotes about the Dehumanizer sessions.
Geezer Butler:
"Ronnie takes such a long time to get anything done with us. We'd sit in rehearsals coming up with riff after riff after riff and Ronnie would be sitting there reading the paper or something and Tony and I were thinking, when is
going to get involved with the stuff? It just took him ages to come up with anything. With Tony Martin, we'll come up with a riff and he'll put a vocal on it straight away. Cross Purposes took six months from absolutely nothing to the finished product. With Dehumanizer, it took eighteen months and it was six months until we came up with one song. We knew it wasn't going to work, but by that time we were so far into it, we couldn't pull out.
On Heaven and Hell he had a thousand ideas, and was very quick to work with. But like U say, on Dehumanizer it took him a long time to get any ideas about anything."
Tony Martin:
"They offered me the gig within four or five months of getting together with Dio, because the were having such a hard time. Tony called, but I didn't accept."
Geoff Nicholls:
"What happened with Dehumanizer was that they asked me to work on the vocals with Ronnie, because he was having difficulties with some stuff. What I did was to get these songs he was struggling with, add some keyboard chords and then said to this, 'OK, now try this.' It was a method Tony Iommi and I had tried before with other singers that had worked very well.
He said he couldn't do it. I played to everyone else then put my vocal ideas on top. Tony Iommi said "That sounds really good, let's do that, but of course Ronnie wouldn't have it.Anyway, he went away then came back with a vocal line that was very similar to the one I had done. Now, if that had all been conducted with a team attitude, like a band, it would have been fine, but it wasn't"
"Ronnie used to rehearse with an Octa-divider on his voice for example, because he didn't want us to hear his real voice. I never fucking figured that one out! The whole thing was weird and eccentric. Ronnie was very fragile and I just felt like we spent too much time stroking his ego when we should have been making an album."
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COMMENT | FUCK OZZY
posted by : THRASHMONGER
4/14/2009 10:45:10 PM
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That blithering oaf has not had an ounce of talent since Randy. Fact.
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COMMENT | Ozzy the Sad Clown
posted by :
4/14/2009 11:01:53 PM
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Sharon has turned Ozzy into a sad object of ridicule and continues to publicly humiliate him for the sake of her need to amass more fees for her plastic surgeons. No, Ozzy can't write music and we all knew that - his career was based on geniuses like Iommi and Randy - but he used to have the charisma and myth of the wild rock-n-roll demon, which was good for something, but what has Sharon turned him into - just a blithering drooling automaton that can barely speak, much less "sing", and every day is turned more and more into a pathetic caricature, a horrid train-wrecked shell that is tortured for the TV dollars by his own wife on the lowest-of-the-low trash-TV shows. It can't get any worse than this.
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posted by :
4/14/2009 11:07:06 PM
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Aw, that's heartbreaking. How can Geezer say that? There goes the reunion album with Black Sabbath.
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COMMENT | Ozzy vs. Dio
posted by : shawnlanewasgawd
4/14/2009 11:24:26 PM
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Hands down, Dio sings better....and has managed not to kill most of his brain cells to boot!
But, the old Sabbath w/ Ozzy is still cool.
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posted by :
4/14/2009 11:32:47 PM
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GZR! you are my fuckin`hero!
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COMMENT | Why do people care?
posted by : Million Dollar Man
4/14/2009 11:33:43 PM
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Geezer gave his opinion. He knows Ozzy better than we do, so all we can do is speculate. Of course, most of you are doing a stupid job of it (this being Blabbermouth, and all).
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COMMENT | Well...
posted by : SabbathKing
4/14/2009 11:37:47 PM
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This is a comment in reply to Geezer Iommi's post.
Geezer is probably talking about this specific project. The Dehumanizer album was back in 1991/1992. Which was 17/18 years ago. Something maybe has changed and Geezer is probably just referring to this project.
Anyways, good on Geezer for telling it like it is.
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COMMENT | .
posted by : Blackenistheyend
4/14/2009 11:43:39 PM
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Sabbath with Ozzy is still the best.
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posted by :
4/14/2009 11:52:23 PM
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Sabbath with Dio or Martin is still better.
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COMMENT | LEAVE OZZY ALONE!!!
posted by :
4/14/2009 11:55:58 PM
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Sorry, had to say it, for the lulz.
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COMMENT |
posted by : SF666
4/15/2009 12:02:02 AM
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Some facts:
Geezer wrote the music for 'Voodoo'. If he had written that for the Ozzy lineup, we'd have never heard it. He also had a track for his solo band that was very doomy. that Bill Ward liked so much that he suggested it be used for Sabbath. If what Geezer says is true, it'd have never been used either. I wonder if it was reworked for TDYK..
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COMMENT | That's how it is playing in a band.
posted by :
4/15/2009 12:08:56 AM
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Someone is always slacking and being closed minded and talking shit about each other. Oh well.
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COMMENT | RE: RE: Geezer Iommi post
posted by : BarryWhiteManilow
4/15/2009 12:12:50 AM
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In the interview, he notes Dio had a bunch of ideas for their first album which only reinforces the first replier's point. People change, especially in almost 2 decades.
Geezer seems to be right on. It's one thing to turn down album ideas, but Geezer and Tony were really getting wasted as Ozzy's backing band or "doz guyz da Ozzzman playd wit be4 he got famus"
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COMMENT | yoko ozzo
posted by : puthimdownyafrig
4/15/2009 12:22:57 AM
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I think sharon's totalitarian management style has more to do with the formation of heaven and hell than ozzy's shortcomings.
he could have recorded and album with them sometime over the past 30 years if not for her. but ozzy the solo artist is her baby while sabbath was her father's, who she hated.
so she let him go out and play with them and do the hits, but no new album. it's really all about her. it's sad but as selfish, controlling and unforgiving as she is, something within ozzy needs that.
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COMMENT | Ozzy is a Rock n' Roll burn-out...
posted by : MetallicaPuppet
4/15/2009 12:36:10 AM
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GEEZER BUTLER: 'If We'd Written This Album With OZZY, We'd Still Be Working On The First Track'
Geezer is talking about facts. Ozmosis took 4 years, Down to Earth was 6 years later, and Black Rain was 6 years after that. Ozzy came out with only 4 Ozzy albums in the last 17 years. Geezer's right, if Ozzy was the singer we would be waiting another 5 years for this album. Thank God for Dio.
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COMMENT | Heaven and Hell ROCKS!!
posted by :
4/15/2009 1:06:31 AM
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Heaven and Hell kicks ass! Good job on "Bible Black"! RJD should have been Sabbath's original singer. Know what I mean? PLEASE MAKE A STOP IN ST.LOUIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Heard the album...
posted by :
4/15/2009 1:29:12 AM
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maybe that's what Geezer needs, is Ozzy working on the album a little longer, because TDYK is certainly NOT a classic Sabbath album. Slow, doomy, predictable in every respect. They should have taken a fuckin chance, but no. I really like Geezer and Heaven and Hell, but shitting on Ozzy is uncalled for. If it weren't for Ozzy, Geezer would just be another fucking no name bass player, like most of them are. He owes his entire career to the showmanship of Ozzy Osbourne. Yes, Ozzy is not the same man he was 20 years ago, but that's no reason to shit all over him. I guess its a little jealousy on Geezer's part, because he wishes he was as well known, and had at least somewhat of a solo career as Ozzy did.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/15/2009 2:01:29 AM
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"Geezer's just shitting on Ozzy because he's jealous of OZZY's success"; "If it weren't for Ozzy, Geezer would be nothing", etc.
Why is it that Black Sabbath is only recogized for their greatness AFTER Ozzy was kicked to the curb thirty years ago? Maybe people are too young to remember it, but Black Sabbath were major stars back in the 70's with tons of money. Ozzy was ONE member of the band who happened to sing for them. Black Sabbath was a unit, it wasn't "Ozzy's band". Funny for all this hype about Ozzy, his dismissal from Black Sabbath for drunken, stoned behavior was a non-event in the music world.
If anyone were a REAL Black Sabbath fan, they'd know ALL of the names of the band members, past and present, it wasn't just "Ozzy and some other guys", ever since I was 13 in 1976, I knew ALL of their names and they were rock and metal GODS. Geezer and Tony's, and Bill's importance and influence cannot be overlooked. I don't know why people think that to criticize Ozzy
is just an act of jealousy, he's put himself out there in the most visibility that he has ever had in his life with his t.v. shows and all, so naturally he's going to be a target for scrutiny and criticism. Ozzy has had a long history of not being the most focused musician in the world. It's great to see Heaven and Hell come out with an album in less time than expected. It's been fourteen years since we've had a full length studio release from the members of Sabbath.
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posted by : MetalMetalMetal
4/15/2009 3:13:27 AM
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good one
fuck Ozzy.
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COMMENT |
posted by : juanneman
4/15/2009 3:13:53 AM
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Geezer is just giving his honest opinion after all this time, and YES people change with the years. What is sure is that Dio is a FAR better, stable, independent, more balanced musician than Ozzy. We know that Sabbath albums with Ozzy are classics, but we are talking about individual musicians, right? Ozzy is just (and has been) a puppet who has been handled by his wife.
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COMMENT | I think this is horribly tacky!
posted by :
4/15/2009 4:15:13 AM
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Ozzy may not be the as vocally gifted as the next, however I do know that Ozzy would never talk this way about his former band mates. Seems like Geezer may be in a cat fight with Sharon at this point. That's right... Sharon's best friend is Geezer's wife so he definately would be talkin shit if he wasn't pissed off at her for something. Who's the pussy now. I'm sorry, but after "Heaven and Hell" go out to record and Ozzy wishes them all great luck, this makes me feel gross inside about Geezer. Just mind your own fucking business. Jesus.
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COMMENT | not to mention...
posted by :
4/15/2009 4:46:46 AM
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Geezer worked with him on No rest for the wicked and ozzmosis... maybe geezer just comes up with shitty guitar lines but ozzy definately utilized geezer for his bass line on perry mason and featured the bass line as the riff. Geezer, show some respect for ozzy being a pal and letting your career continue until you did get back with dio.
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COMMENT | ozzy solo
posted by :
4/15/2009 4:46:53 AM
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personaly I prefer ozzy solo to his work in sabbath. yea they had a couple of killer songs with him but overall I prefer the non ozzy sabbath stuff. the tony martin cd's were way under rated. and born again is a classic metal album.this new one with dio will kick ass!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/15/2009 5:11:42 AM
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It makes me sad to see what Ozzy has become.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by :
4/15/2009 5:32:05 AM
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It makes me sad to see what Ozzy and Dio have become, they are both getting old and we havent had anyone nearly as good in the last 10 years or so.
and Ozzy's last few solo albums are way better then Dio's last few solo albums. But Heaven and Hell is very good!
and Dio is usually perfect live but Ozzy is more unpredictable wich is very good too. and Ozzy is more fun both live and and offstage. and so fucking what he takes part in some tv-show???? it has nothing to do with music, and he just doing the same as most men do, let the wife control them.
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COMMENT |
posted by : PL
4/15/2009 5:36:32 AM
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Absolutely Geezer. And you wouldn't have released a half-ass-cd like you just did either...
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COMMENT | Don't care about rock star ego wars
posted by :
4/15/2009 5:52:06 AM
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But as a huge Black Sabbath fan I'll say this :
Maybe they should have spent some more time on this album. I'm just gonna pretend it doesn't exist, and crank up Master Of Reality instead
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COMMENT | Oh
posted by :
4/15/2009 5:56:35 AM
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And thank you "Geezer Iommi" for posting that. Reading that after reading the article first made my day.
Cheers!
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COMMENT | HOD
posted by : Public Image Ltd
4/15/2009 6:10:57 AM
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''Maybe they should have spent some more time on this album. I'm just gonna pretend it doesn't exist, and crank up Master Of Reality instead''
Possibly the saddest and dumbest comment I've ever seen on this site.
Let's look at the facts:
From 1980 up untill 1995, Ozzy brought out 7 studio albums and 3 live albums.
In the same period, Sabbath brought out 10 studio albums and 1 live album.
Geezer might be correct, you know.
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COMMENT | Rotting Elvis Pt. 6
posted by :
4/15/2009 6:11:37 AM
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Let's not forget, despite it all, that Ozzy is still the guy who sang on 'Sabotage' as glad as I am to have Sabbath back doing an album let's not just badmouth Ozzy. I still have respect for him for what HE did with the first 6 Sabbath albums.
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COMMENT |
posted by : TheSoundOfChunder
4/15/2009 6:30:36 AM
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i can't believe some of you actually are comparing Tony Martin to either vocalist
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COMMENT | great record....
posted by : #1metalhead
4/15/2009 6:55:36 AM
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i got an official advanced copy of this last week & the album is killer.the only song i don't like is track #7 "eating the cannibals" & that's only due to the cheesy lyrics.i think it's pretty safe to say this record'll probably be one of the top ten metal releases of '09.for those of you who wont recognize this disc,your missing out-your loss!
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COMMENT |
posted by : PL
4/15/2009 7:06:18 AM
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Ozzy Tony Geezer Bill
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COMMENT | nt to mention...
posted by :
4/15/2009 7:11:24 AM
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sabbath may have released more albums than ozzy, but id it a bad thing for ozzy to be selective when choosing his material??? the olny crap album ozz made was down to earth but besides that his music has killed sabbath's after the mob rules (and i really dont care how much you love heaven and hell, blizzard and diary have it beat anyday...) black rain was fantastic. not very old school, but the song "black rain" could be an amazing new sabbath song.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Scream Bloody Gore
4/15/2009 7:16:30 AM
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Just get me to the 28th of April already. Let's let the songs do the talking.
Dio Sabbath is my Sabbath!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/15/2009 7:27:30 AM
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mrsromek:
Agreed, but Manny was just a straight up asshole.
PL:
That's sure as hell my Sabbath! The way I see it, Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Ozzy.
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COMMENT | out of context slightly
posted by : mywar138
4/15/2009 7:46:17 AM
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just speaking with my friend who read the actual article. After Geezer made some of these statement is says "(laughing)". Makes a big difference in the reading of the story.
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COMMENT | 'Nuff said!
posted by : Wallbanger
4/15/2009 7:56:36 AM
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Sharon has turned Ozzy into a sad object of ridicule and continues to publicly humiliate him for the sake of her need to amass more fees for her plastic surgeons. No, Ozzy can't write music and we all knew that - his career was based on geniuses like Iommi and Randy - but he used to have the charisma and myth of the wild rock-n-roll demon, which was good for something, but what has Sharon turned him into - just a blithering drooling automaton that can barely speak, much less "sing", and every day is turned more and more into a pathetic caricature, a horrid train-wrecked shell that is tortured for the TV dollars by his own wife on the lowest-of-the-low trash-TV shows. It can't get any worse than this.
The truth is out there^^^^^
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COMMENT | mrsromek
posted by : kwf
4/15/2009 8:20:52 AM
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" am a fan of Sabbath. However, is this just the case of a bass player being envious of the lead singer? Doesn't every band have this kind of shit going on? Ozzy is Ozzy, kinda like Manny being Manny."
This isn't High School....Geezer being denied his song writing = he's being denied a big payday from a Sabbath reunion lp...more money for Sharon and Ozzy...get with it...
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COMMENT | Hold on a sec.....
posted by : Neoshredical
4/15/2009 8:21:23 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Black Sabbath with Ozzy far outsold anything else they ever put out..... and Ozzy's solo albums were also more successful....
So, the whiny bassist is basically saying that he would prefer to slap shit together, regardless of the outcome, while Ozzy is more discerning in the quality of what he puts out.....
I'll take Ozzy any day...... Say what you want about him (or his wife), but the man is a genius.... and without Ozzy, no one would've ever heard of Geezer....
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/15/2009 8:28:55 AM
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black rain was a good album?
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : slaughterhouse
4/15/2009 8:36:52 AM
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"and without Ozzy, no one would've ever heard of Geezer...."
I couldn't have said it better!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/15/2009 8:37:46 AM
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Dio, Iommi & Butler = GODS!
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COMMENT | vinnie
posted by :
4/15/2009 8:42:41 AM
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looks like someone you wouldn't allow near a gradeschool.
andor the drummer from spinal tap.
:)olc
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COMMENT | blah blah blah
posted by : Sonic Titan
4/15/2009 8:47:06 AM
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One of those times where the fight is old and tired.
Sabbath rules with Ozzy and Dio. Get over it.
As far as Geezer and Iommi stirring the pot, Just telling it like it is from their point of view. I'm sure Ozzy has his take on it.
Let it die kids.
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COMMENT | Some things are better left unsaid
posted by :
4/15/2009 8:47:39 AM
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I'm sure there is some truth to Geezer's assertions, and sometimes the truth hurts.
I could point out No More Tears as a song with a co-write with the bassist to refute his willingness to work with what he considers a songworthy bass part. So, I don't think OZZY is as narrow minded as he's being painted.
It's just a bit sad to bring this out in public. I doubt that this will hasten any possible reunion CD with OZZY. Most likely, this will widen the communication gap between the two & fire up OZZY's gatekeeper(Sharon)
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COMMENT | The truth
posted by :
4/15/2009 9:21:23 AM
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Seriously, everything Geezer said is true....
I doubt Geezer is envious of Ozzy....shit I know I'm not....
Everything Ozzy has done relied on everyone else writing, but perhaps ozzy did write a vocal melody for songs which is "writing".....i will give credit there....
Sabbath writing was Iommi and Geezer...
Ozzy solo the writing was Randy, Daisely, Jake, and Zakk....
Also, BOB DIASLEY wrote the lyrics for most of Ozzy's solo material, and shit he wrote alot of music as well....
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/15/2009 10:04:13 AM
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Although I love the original Black Sabbath I do love Tony and Geezer with Dio. I'm sure either Tony or Geezer and maybe even Bill would be saying the same thing about Dio though if they had recorded that album that they gave a try with Ozzy. It sucks that there will probably never be another Sabbath album with Ozzy. I am looking forward to this Heaven & Hell album though. Some of the Dio era stuff was pretty good. Heaven and Hell ,Time Machine and Sign of the Southern Cross being my favorites from the Dio era.
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COMMENT | ozzy is a "has been"
posted by :
4/15/2009 10:04:25 AM
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Ozzy used to be tolerable but know he's a joke. His guitarists write ALL his music and that's why he punched Randy Rhodes in the face when Randy wanted to quit. He punched a guy that weighed 120lbs! What a tough-guy. The reason he did this is he saw his "gravy-train" leaving the station. As much as I like Zakk Wylde, he's no Rhodes, Jake E. Lee, or Iommi and that's why Ozzy's stuff has sucked for so so long. There, I said it! I think Zakk's solo stuff is damn good but what he's done for Ozzy just stinks to high hell. The jerk offs that post Ozzy as some genius have never picked up an instrument. The work that it takes to be a professional musician is takes years and years of practice. So for anyone to diminish Geezer is lame. He's a great bassist.
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COMMENT | WHAT'S W/ YOU PEOPLE?
posted by : Land of the Lost Horizon
4/15/2009 10:13:19 AM
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i've read several comments on here that more or less say "fuck geezer", and "ozzy rules", etc. someone even said that if it weren't for ozzy, geezer would be a nobody. it's the other way around. ozzy wouldn't have been anybody if it hadn't been for geezer's writing skills. he was the one writing most of sabbath's songs. if it weren't for iommi's great guitar playing and geezer's lyrics, nobody would even know who ozzy was. he never would have made it to where he is today without the help of the other bandmates, but each of them could have done fine on their own.
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COMMENT | OZZY is king fuckers
posted by : thomas cargo
4/15/2009 10:39:10 AM
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I love Dio but Ozzy is the fucking best metal front man that ever sang on stage !!!! Go listen to old Black Sabbath records and you will hear pure genius!!! Remember kids Ozzy is almost 60 years old so give him the fucking respect he deserves got it!!!!
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COMMENT | Sad but true
posted by : dinnas
4/15/2009 11:00:18 AM
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I can understand why some poster above said Ozzy Osbourne is the Britney Spears of heavy metal. After all, they both depend on other songwriters and musicians to write and record their songs. They both became more infamous and notorious to the wider public (i.e. outside their fan base) not because of their musical talents but rather because of their eccentric antics. Both of them have gotten more famous than they deserve to be.
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COMMENT | Who cares about what is being said about Ozzy
posted by : RiotAct666
4/15/2009 11:34:57 AM
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Both the Ozzy & Dio era Sabbath's were great in their own ways.
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COMMENT | Dio Rules... Ozzy drools.
posted by :
4/15/2009 12:00:55 PM
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No comparison... Ozzy is a joke at his point. Dio's last 3 solo albums have been magnificent.... while Ozzy hasn't put out anything worthwhile since the 80s.
Sabbath actually did record and complete an entire album with Rick Rubin as producer, however they shelved it because the material couldn't live up to the classic Sabbath material.
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COMMENT | ozzyboo
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
4/15/2009 12:08:01 PM
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Yeah....is that why Ozzy and Sharon spread rumors about Tony being gay in the 80's????? Because they are such angels??????
Not to mention......Geezer wrote the lyrics, Tony(along with Geezer) wrote the music. All Ozzy has to do is sing. Yet no new Sabbath CD, why????? Because Sharon gets more money from Ozzy's solo career. With Sabbath, the money gets divided equally.
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COMMENT | theweight
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
4/15/2009 12:17:51 PM
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The lyrics you quoted were brought to you by:
Terence Michael Joseph "Geezer" Butler
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COMMENT | GEEZER BUTLER IS AN ASS-HOLE!!!
posted by :
4/15/2009 12:24:16 PM
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WITHOUT OZZY THIS LITTLE BASTARD WILL PLAY IN A GAY BAND!
OZZY IS THE BEST.......
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COMMENT | ^
posted by : Land of the Lost Horizon
4/15/2009 1:24:36 PM
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am i the only one that thought daphne was hot?
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COMMENT |
posted by : yoojonny
4/15/2009 2:46:44 PM
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it makes sense ozzy would think that way. he's about 90 years old and probably really old fashioned in this way.
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COMMENT |
posted by : yoojonny
4/15/2009 2:46:45 PM
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it makes sense ozzy would think that way. he's about 90 years old and probably really old fashioned in this way.
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COMMENT | metaladdict666
posted by :
4/15/2009 2:53:15 PM
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I think your a poser.... what a fucking retarded word.
I know your a dumbass...
You actually spend that much time on a post cuz you hate something.
Ozzy will always be a part of metal history, that countless have and will continue to enjoy.
What have you done in life that has had any type of entertaining impact on anyone?
Especially to the affect of creating and sharing music with others
Have a nice day dumbass (-8
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COMMENT | !!
posted by :
4/15/2009 5:24:00 PM
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Black Rain was a fine album, it had some new sound for Ozzy and industrial vibe. it wasnt great but still good and better then most of the other crap thats been on the charts the last few years. and 7 albums from 1980 to 1995 is good and most of these albums were very good. but i have to say sales is not the same as good at least not today.
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COMMENT | Trueblood
posted by : metaladdict666
4/15/2009 5:26:51 PM
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First, Let my say I really appreciate you helping to make my point, you didn't answer anything based on the criteria of the questions, so thanks again.
Secondly, My life is & has been pretty fuckin good so far, yeah I know I've never released an album or went on tour or impacted millions of people but guess what , those are not the only keys to true happiness.
Thirdly, Your name is a very cool word because it tells everyone else that your blood is truer than all others , & that you stand for all things truer than anyone else is capable, hell your blood is so true(r) that your probably a blood relative of the father of all pure bloods aren't ya!
Lastly, I hate to break it to ya, but one definition of a poser is someone who does not think for themselves & believes their heroes are infallible & deserve to be worshiped, followed or in this case listened to without question of the mediocrity they have become but fail to admit to it. So once again you have helped anyone who was curious as to what a "poser" might be defined as.
Next...
\,,/
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COMMENT |
posted by : PaulCollierSucks
4/15/2009 6:56:04 PM
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For all you post-Ozzy era Sabbath haters....you're absolutely right. Nothing that Tony and Geezer have written between 1980 and now can stand up to the mind blowing artistic genius that was Ozzy's duet with Miss Piggy.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : Raiders757
4/15/2009 7:15:45 PM
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Funny how the best albums Ozzy ever appeared on, were not even Sabbath albums, and the bass player wrote most of the lyrics and melody, getting no credit for it.
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COMMENT | bluesy73
posted by : metaladdict666
4/15/2009 7:35:19 PM
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I wouldn't disagree with you that excluding Dehumanizer everything from Born Again to Forbidden lacked the cohesion of a true band & therefore may not be considered true Sabbath albums.
However with that being said at least Tony while being self absorbed did not do something to make him more like the dog faced boy at the traveling side show than a musician.
\,,/
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COMMENT | hahah
posted by :
4/15/2009 8:05:03 PM
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how soon you fucktards forget that without those first EIGHT sabbath cd's with the ozz man singin' you assholes wouldn't even be talking about heavy metal today.
ill just go back to listening to "the wizard" now.
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COMMENT | iHeadbang
posted by : Land of the Lost Horizon
4/15/2009 10:11:55 PM
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ozzy looks constipated . surely you could have found a better pic.
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COMMENT | !!!
posted by :
4/16/2009 4:53:34 AM
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Ozzy havent changed a bit, so what he does some tv-shows and some "normal" people only know him for that, who gives a shit??? saw him live 2 years ago and he was great, much better then Metallica was for example, saw them play the same year, and saw the hall of fame performance from them and Hetfield wasnt in a very good form. and im not sure why Iommi called 7th Star Black Sabbath, maybe it was the record company.
but still i hope the new Ozzy album will be good and from what i have heard of Heaven and Hell it seems to be very good!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/16/2009 7:28:27 AM
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If Geezer had all these great ideas, then where is his solo project that has gone gold?
With so many posts and me being too lazy to go back to see who said what....... someone said that Ozzy has never put anyone out great with or without Sabbath. That comment blew my mind..... I believe that album Paranoid goes down in history as one of the greatest of all times. Sabbath with Ozzy influenced most of the metal you listen to today. I don't give a shit if Ozzy can or can't play an instrument. I believe he plays the harmonica (weather you classify that or not, up to you). Did anyone care that Robert Plant never played an instrument? Plant, Ozzy and Halford are all great front men and that's what they do. Can't hold that against them. Without guys like them, you wouldn't have the music you have today.
As for Geezer...... he has the right to say what he wants. In my opinion..... seems kind of classless. I don't think that Ozzy has gone on record saying anything negative about him. Hell, Ozzy was good enough for him during Ozzy's post-Sabbath career when he had nothing else. Almost seems a bit like biting the hand that fed you.
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COMMENT | Hahahaha
posted by :
4/16/2009 12:55:48 PM
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Ozzy is the most overrated vocalist of all time. Reached for every fucking note. Dio on the other hand HAD an amazing voice. Not a fan of his solo work but the Rainbow albums are pure gold.
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COMMENT | ehhhhhhh.....
posted by :
4/16/2009 1:44:35 PM
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screw you, geezer.
Ozzy will always be the Godfather of Metal. Period.
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COMMENT | SAME TRAP
posted by : liveevil
4/16/2009 6:01:30 PM
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...like always, the SABBATH camp released this comment by GEEZER to get the fans all cat fightin' again over OZZY vs DIO. YA'LL fell for it for the millionth time...
It's called marketing, and behind the comment was probably Sharon. ching, ching. $$$$
ALL HAIL BLACK SABBATH ~ OZZY & DIO !!!
BIBLE BLACK - classic song title from this group...
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COMMENT | HEAVEN & HELL
posted by : xBlessedxInxSINx
4/16/2009 7:36:48 PM
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DIO Is The man....The End.
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