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JOE LYNN TURNER Claims That DAVID COVERDALE Has Used Pre-Recorded Tapes In Concert
- Apr. 16, 2009
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Spain's The Metal Circus recently conducted an interview with legendary vocalist Joe Lynn Turner ( RAINBOW, DEEP PURPLE, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN) about the new SUNSTORM album, "House Of Dreams", his upcoming concerts in Spain with BIG NOIZE, the Russian connection and the fact that Ritchie Blackmore won't ever reform RAINBOW. When asked if he has ever used pre-recorded tapes for backing and/or lead vocals, Joe replied, "To be honest with you, I have one machine that helps sing the backgrounds — it's from DigiTech, and it's a great technology — but it's not samples, it's live; you have to sing into the microphone and then this machine will take your voice, whatever you put into this machine is exactly what you get. So if you sing like shit, it's gonna sound like shit. So there's no wizardry, there's no tapes. Because recently I heard on the Internet that David Coverdale was using all kinds of tapes. Well, I was in Finland [in June 2008] with Graham Bonnet and we were on the same festival [ Sauna Open Air; see video below] as WHITESNAKE, and I couldn't believe he was using these tapes — for lead singing! Not just backgrounds, but lead! And I was... My mouth was open. I was like, 'What the fuck, David?! You can't do this. You look so stupid, so foolish.' And everyone is complaining about this. No, I'm singing live. This is what you get; that's it. . . I'm not trying to talk shit... This is true. Everybody sees this. . . I couldn't believe it, because he [ David] was always one of my favorite singers. To use tapes for a lead vocal... I can understand backgrounds if the [rest of the bandmembers] don't sing. But for lead?! You've gotta be kidding!" The Metal Circus' entire interview with Joe Lynn Turner is available for streaming at this location. Fan-filmed video footage of WHITESNAKE performing at Sauna Open Air festival on June 8, 2008 (the concert Joe was referring to in The Metal Circus interview) can be viewed below.
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COMMENT |
posted by : jeffgq
4/16/2009 1:11:31 PM
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not surprised! van halen did the same thing for michael anthony's back-up singing
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COMMENT |
posted by : rds
4/16/2009 1:14:10 PM
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he 's probley right, he can't sing like he used to (anyone for that matter, and i would like to say that on the Heaven and Hell dvd Ronnie sounded really raspy/hoarse, they should have caught him on tape earlier in the tour when he was fresh. oh well) i wanna hear Burn and Stormbringer like in the old days.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/16/2009 1:17:55 PM
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Boy, Joe Lynn Turner sounds angry. I don't think I've ever seen her so pissed.
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COMMENT | Ha ha!
posted by : Streetknife
4/16/2009 1:20:36 PM
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fleckr: Awesome!!
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COMMENT | To rds
posted by : alternativemonkey
4/16/2009 1:22:25 PM
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I saw H&H at Mohegan Sun with Judas Priest. During the first half of the show, I thought Ronnie's voice showed signs of strain, but got better, to perfect, towards the end of the show.
The reason I bring this up is the H&H DVD is from the launch at Radio City Music Hall. This was the EARLIEST! I don't disagree that Dio isn't at its best; I just feel that he would have benefitted from playing a few more shows as his voice got accostumed to the strain.
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COMMENT | rds
posted by : Aces_High99
4/16/2009 1:24:59 PM
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You are so right about Dio's vocals on the Radio City CD/DVD.
His voice sounds very worn out and ragged, which sucks because I've seen three Heaven and Hell shows (twice in 2007 and once last year) and he sounded so much better than on that release.
I hate it when a band releases live material when the singer isn't in 100% best voice. I realize that professional recording is expensive and that the band can't predict if a singer will be having throat problems months in advance of booking, but still...they owe it to their fans to release a quality recording.
Maiden did the same thing with their Death on the Road CD/DVD from 2004. Bruce had a head cold and they released it anyway!! And it's fucking unlistenable because his voice is completely shot.
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COMMENT | alternativemonkey
posted by : Aces_High99
4/16/2009 1:26:55 PM
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I was at the Mohegan show too...actually all three times I've seen H&H have been at Mohegan, and Dio sounded great all three times, much better than on the Radio City release.
Damn shame.
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COMMENT | \,,/
posted by : rds
4/16/2009 1:27:23 PM
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i'll still give DIO credit for being as old as he is and still being able to belt it out like it was 1981.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/16/2009 1:31:20 PM
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Oh hell, here we go.
This could get uglier than the spat between Joe Elliott and Dick Ream.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Aces_High99
4/16/2009 1:35:26 PM
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Shit, all these flash-in-the-pan singers should be so lucky to sound half as good as Dio when they're 66/67 years old. Most of them will have either retired, or will realize they should have retired.
Most singers start losing range and power when they're in the 40s, let alone 60s.
I cut Dio some slack 'cuz of his age...it's not like he's embarrassing himself if he's a little raspy. He's still on-key and has tremendous tone and pitch control.
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COMMENT | That's correct.
posted by :
4/16/2009 1:39:22 PM
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He did it when he came a few months ago to La Coruña, and probably did on the whole european tour. That's sad, better go and retire.
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COMMENT | DIO
posted by : Land of the Lost Horizon
4/16/2009 1:42:12 PM
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saw him at both chicago shows in '07. personally, it was the best i've ever heard him sound (since my first time in '94, and i've seen every tour that's come to town since then). you want to hear god awful dio vocals, try the holy diver live album that came out a few years ago. supposedly he was sick, but they should have rescheduled the recording. it's pretty bad.
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COMMENT | fleckr
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
4/16/2009 1:44:36 PM
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Yeah, just wait 'til Diva Coversnail responds!!!!!!
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : The Maggotface
4/16/2009 1:46:47 PM
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I like his vocals, but he can't seem to stop tooting his own horn while bashing others in the process. His interview about his stint with Deep Purple says it all.
Part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_eQMiVbv0w
Part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rcfdFntrKs&NR=1
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COMMENT | Land of the Lost Horizon
posted by : Aces_High99
4/16/2009 1:50:14 PM
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I've avoided that album because it got some pretty awful reviews. I'll have to listen to some clips for free to see bad it really is.
I don't think much of his current solo band anyway. They're not exactly the kinds of musicians that someone of Dio's stature should be surrounding himself with.
He could do much better...maybe he's just a cheapskate.
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COMMENT | This just in
posted by : Lemmyisgod
4/16/2009 1:57:27 PM
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David Coverdale claims that Joe Lynn Turner's wig ofetn times stands in for Joe and sings.
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COMMENT | It happens a lot
posted by :
4/16/2009 2:01:55 PM
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I think the problem is trying deliver a show that is worth seeing. If the marketable member of a band can't physially pull it off each night, I understand helping themselves out a little. That said, nothing kills a vibe like seeing and hearing the poorly executed stuff like this. I have seen it done well where it is not offensive, Ozzy, ZZ Top. I saw Ozzy on the Diary tour before the technology and he was unable to sing the songs. In later life his "pitch improved alot" and the concerts are better. The only thing I find offensive is the hipocracy where applicable.
Dio is the exception, it is incredible what he can still do. He uses all he has every night, a very few things might not be the same as they were originally done, but you really have to listen to hear much difference in him today versus live evil. Not the same but the music doesn't suffer.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/16/2009 2:12:25 PM
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I saw Whitesnake at Graspop last year and those weren't tapes for sure
His vocals aren't what they used to be, but i still enjoyed the show
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COMMENT | oh Batman
posted by :
4/16/2009 3:03:42 PM
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The Milli Vanilli shit is back. Shame on you David.
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COMMENT | forget the vocals, JLT's real beef is the golden locks
posted by : BSlash24
4/16/2009 3:07:12 PM
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Let's get to the heart of the matter here. JLT doesn't care if Lord Coverdale has more name recognition or is known more for his vocal gymnastics. Its the Hair JLT yearns for, worshipping at the folical alter of the stately Coverdale. Lord Coverdale's Lion's Mane is pure gold.
JLT, while showcaseing the most perfect hair this side of Jacylyn Smith, secretly is wearing a rock n roll rug of some sort, circa 1988. (see Axl for post 1988). While the sheen can be seen at the back of arena(um, well... the club), JLT simply can not rock to his fullest. While JLT can brush his rock n roll hair, he simply can not head bang, toss it back with the bravado of the Lord Coverdale & his gorgeous Farrah 'do. This, my metal friends, drives JLT near insanity. This is when JLT Attacks!
Both run in the same rock n roll circles, the Rainbow, DP, Blackmore/Sabbath incestuous family tree. When crossing paths(paaaawths as Coverdale would say), it is Lord Coverdale who snickers at JLT, knowing he is folically challenged & his hair does not sit upon his head at night but upon...A NIGHTSTAND manicane head!(Lord C laughs out loud to himself).
Coverdale mocks JLT's hair & career while another video vixen runs her hands through his Robert Plant meets Loni Anderson tresses. Coverdale knows there is nothing more regal, now that Glenn Hughes 1974 California Jam hair is all but left his head. He remains the lone lion! A Golden Rock god. His face can prune up all it wants, atop is his & Vidal Sasson's most perfect creation. Because of this, JLT lashes out when ever he can. Street of dreams indeed. (I don't know what that means really).
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COMMENT | btw
posted by : BSlash24
4/16/2009 3:09:32 PM
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under NO circumstance should taped tracks be used, lead or backing. Lead, are you kidding? If the band can't do the backing part of the record, play it raw, it worked in the day if you still have some balls in the band.
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COMMENT | Get a new tape!
posted by : JohnStockwell
4/16/2009 3:18:45 PM
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...cause this one sounds like crap! LOL
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COMMENT | agree, no tapes
posted by :
4/16/2009 3:23:21 PM
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i hate that bands do this. a live concert is just that, live. mistakes are made, guitarists miss chords, drummers miss a beat, and singers don't sound like they do in the studio. if you want to hear it perfect, listen to the album! that said, i'm not a Whitesnake fan, but it seems like Coverdale's voice has held up pretty well? And Dio defies logic! Problem is that all of these guys are trying, with varying degrees of success, to sing songs that they recorded 20 or so years ago!
All of this is part of why Robert Plant (wisely in my opinion!) said 'thanks but no thanks' to the Zep reunion. He knew he couldn't sing the old stuff, so why bother. Now he plays and sings songs where he can hit the notes!
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COMMENT | brir
posted by : BSlash24
4/16/2009 3:28:50 PM
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you hit the nail on the head, all around. Zep too. People just want to say they saw Zep, see Plant on stage, but he can't sing like he did then. He admits it. Granted, Coverdale or JLT have less career options, but I'd rather a guy take the easy route & sing the song at lower register than use a tape. Or try & have the voice crack a bit. Its live. Maybe, at worst, use some hot girls to sing backup, still cheating, but its live & you aren't hiding anything....what VH did was terrible, piped in backing vocals, & piped in KEYBOARDS on jump & I'll wait. lame! Why not just play the record & do karyokee....you don't have to recreate the studio version live to have it be good still.
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COMMENT | Covergirl is'nt going to take this lying down lol.
posted by :
4/16/2009 3:31:34 PM
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Let bitchslap fest 2009 begin.
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COMMENT | David Covergirl
posted by : Aces_High99
4/16/2009 3:58:52 PM
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Genius. Haha.
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COMMENT |
posted by : BonzoholicII
4/16/2009 4:01:50 PM
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"I heard it on the internet..." Well then Joe, it must be true!!!!
Now go take your hair for a walk. I think it needs to take a dump.
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COMMENT | The truth is....
posted by :
4/16/2009 4:35:39 PM
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it's a medical fact that the voice box shrinks with age and David Coverdale has really lost it. I like the new Whitesnake CD Good To Be Bad...but at times David's voice sounds just shot. He has been in the business for many years, since the seventies with Deep Purple. Age has caught up with him...and it is wrong to have a taped performance.
My favorite singer of all time time is The Metal God..Rob Halford, and people get on him saying he can't quite scream like he used to, and that is true, but he still SINGS his ass off because he can just flat out sing.
Dio sounds pretty good still, although he can't hit his highs as well either. Not quite as much power anymore either.
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COMMENT |
posted by : rds
4/16/2009 4:50:38 PM
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I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR ROB LIVE LAST YEAR, HE STILL BELTED OUT VICTIM OF CHANGES, SINNER, PAINKILLER ECT. SIMPLY AWESOME! ALTHOUGH ROB RARELY MOVED DURING CERTAIN PARTS OF THE SONGS HE STILL GOT IT TOO.
RUSS ANDERSON IS SIMPLY A SHADOW OF WHAT HE USED TO BE, RUNNING AROUND ON STAGE (350+ LBS. WITH ALL THAT NECK MEAT)LIKE IT WAS 1988 AND TRYING TO SING "FORBIDDEN EVIL" IS JUST NOT GONNA CUT IT. HE SHOULD SIMPLY BOWOUT.
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COMMENT | Lord Coverdale's responce
posted by : BSlash24
4/16/2009 4:50:38 PM
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Coverdale will barely miss a beat, completely dismiss the allegation as foolishness. "he read it on the internet did he? Who was this again, oh yes, the wigged one, he was on the radio once wasn't he. We played with the same guitarist I believe, yee-a's ago. Well, he ought to get his ducks in a row before slings mud at me & the Snake...I believe afternoon tea is about at the boil, yes...oh & tapes, no, what you are blessed to he-ya, is coming straight from the loins love".
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COMMENT | Michael Anthony?
posted by : The Ghost at Number One
4/16/2009 5:05:41 PM
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They've NEVER used tapes to reproduce his vocals. They might've used tapes of Michael for when Wolfgang sings with the band, which wouldn't surprise me, but Michael Anthony always sings live.
If Coverdale uses tapes, shouldn't he sound better?
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COMMENT |
posted by : wiseblood
4/16/2009 5:22:32 PM
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"If Coverdale uses tapes, shouldn't he sound better?"
And if he gets plastic surgery, shouldn't he look better??
The answer to both, is NO!
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COMMENT | hey wiseblood
posted by :
4/16/2009 6:08:54 PM
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...yours is the best comment yet, nice one! BUT I am disappointed coz I saw Whitesnake 2 months ago and thought Coverdale was incredible - and now the truth is revealed - those lead vocals on the chorus of "Here I go again" are definitely from a tape.
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COMMENT | JLT
posted by :
4/16/2009 7:32:31 PM
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Although I love his work with Rainbow, and any Rainbow, for that matter, JLT needs to wake up to the fact that his unwarranted "superior" attitude has probably cost him his career. He has talked shit about just about everyone of note that he has worked with, and seems to consider himself God's Gift to melodic rock. I mean, c'mon, didn't he refer to Ian Gillan's lyrics as "drivel" just as he was about to join Purple.? And we all know how that turned out.
Guitar players are supposed to be pricks, Joe. Singers should always be humble.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/16/2009 7:35:50 PM
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Doug Aldrich fuckin' SHREDS!!!
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COMMENT | That's not a tape...
posted by : The Ghost at Number One
4/16/2009 7:47:05 PM
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in the chorus of Here I Go Again, someone else in the band is singing the lead vocal. I think it's either Reb Beach, or more likely, the keyboard player.
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COMMENT |
posted by : BonzoholicII
4/16/2009 7:47:42 PM
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I farted
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COMMENT | ?
posted by : RiotAct666
4/16/2009 8:40:54 PM
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I've see WS live many time and Coverdale does sing the songs.
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COMMENT |
posted by : JudasShawn
4/16/2009 10:30:32 PM
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PRIEST! PRIEST! PRIEST! PRIEST!
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COMMENT | .
posted by :
4/17/2009 3:22:33 AM
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You can trust Joe on this one. I mean, I love Coverdale, but I went to see Whitesnake a few months back in Rockstar Barakaldo and I was scratching my head on a few songs. I mean, I couldn't believe it was playback, but it looked (sounded) like that. I was pretty close to the stage and I was able to see Coverdale's mouth closed while from the speakers you could hear his voice singing lines from the songs. Why he would do that ? Is fucking Coverdale !! Would he "ruin" his career acting like an awful Pop star?
After a while, talking with some friends about the band, I went back to Youtube to check out because I was still feeling rare about it, and I specifically watched that video Joe is talking about.
And now this.
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COMMENT | King of mymes
posted by :
4/17/2009 4:13:01 AM
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a lot of singers are doing it these days, but the undisputed heavyweight king of mymes has to be Blackie Lawless. When he played Melbourne last year l have never seen myming as obvious as that and never seen so many pissed off concert goers after a show feeling ripped off.
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COMMENT | NOT TRUE
posted by : Hellavator
4/17/2009 4:28:53 AM
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Well, based on the 2 videos, its obvious that David is singing without any tape. His voice is tired, short on breath (Like any singer of his age would) so no i don't think this tape thing is true for a minute. As for the comments on R.J.D the man sure doesn't have the vocal range he used to have but one thing remain: He still sings from the heart, something that many young 20 something musicians don't even bother trying. For this reason, i would never blame R.J.D if sometimes he slip out of key.
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COMMENT | duh
posted by :
4/17/2009 10:39:03 PM
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The band are singing alot of Davids old parts. Reb Beach and the bass player both have good ranges. Nothing wrong with the band singing, plus Coverdale and the band go flat several times on "Here I Go Again". Why would he use that tape??? I love Coverdales voice he sounds the way he always wated to sound...like an old great blues singer. Turner has a great voice but he should really keep his thoughts to himself :)
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COMMENT | Turner lies!
posted by :
1/5/2010 6:51:07 PM
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Watch the first of those two videos- after 2.03 minutes "In the still of the night", David comes in with verse in totaly wrong timing and the sentence ends up like "pa pa pa pa". Dough are laugthing at him and It's a bit fun...
How can a leadsinger like Turner watch that liveshow- And then call it lip sync?
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