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JASON NEWSTED: 'I Don't Think It's Proper For SEPULTURA To Go On Without The CAVALERAS'
- July 2, 2009
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Former METALLICA bassist Jason Newsted, who made a guest appearance on SEPULTURA's 1998 album "Against", believes that it's not "proper" for the Brazilian metal band to carry on without either of the founding Cavalera brothers ( Max and Igor; on guitar/vocals and drums, respectively). During a guest appearance this past Friday night (June 26) on the "Bone Metal Zone" show on the San Francisco radio station 107.7 FM, Newsted was asked by host Nikki Blakk about his involvement with SEPULTURA. "Yeah, I did one song on the 'Against' album with them," he replied. "I played six-string bass on it. We recorded it at The Chophouse [ Newsted's home studio]. They came and stayed for a few days, and we rocked out, and that came of it." He continued, "I've played a lot of music with Andreas [ Kisser, SEPULTURA guitarist] over time — I've done real projects with him that we released to people and all that kind of stuff. " Andreas is one of my very, very favorite people." When asked for his opinion on Andreas' decision to continue SEPULTURA without Max and Igor, Newsted said, "No matter how much I love Andreas, I don't think it's proper for SEPULTURA to go on without the Cavaleras — one or the other; I would rather have it with both, but if we can't have that, I really don't think we should have anything." He added, "I'm interested to hear Andreas' solo album, however, because he's very talented. He has a new record out — it's a double album. I haven't anything from it yet, but I know from recording him a lot of times that he has a lot... a very deep well. He's very talented." Newsted performed with SEPULTURA at the Barulho Contra Fome (Noise Against Hunger) concert in August 1998, which was also the first gig of the "Against" tour. This performance included additional guest appearances by the Xavantes tribe (who'd featured on "Roots"), Mike Patton ( FAITH NO MORE), Carlinhos Brown, original SEPULTURA guitarist Jairo Guedz and Coffin Joe. 
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 1:29:08 PM
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this just made me laugh from the headline. smartest guy ever, leaves metallica for some shit side project...real smart dude. you could do backup vocals, rob cant. it's not like they turn bass up on their albums anyways.
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COMMENT | amadman6933
posted by : artjunkie
7/2/2009 1:31:39 PM
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This just in for someone who obviously does not pay attention: Rob does do backup vocals. He did back up vocals on Death Magnetic and does them on stage every night.
When you’re trying to talk shit about someone, try to keep it factual so you don’t come off looking like a major douche.
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COMMENT | Yeah, well...
posted by : -gODGRINDER-
7/2/2009 1:32:12 PM
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...it probably wasn't appropriate for Metallica to go on without Cliff, but here we are!
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COMMENT | gODGRINDER-
posted by : artjunkie
7/2/2009 1:38:43 PM
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Yeah, because all bands should just totally implode and die because one motherfucker can’t or won’t go on.
These two situations couldn’t be more different.
In the case of Metallica, Cliff was a big part musically, but he was not one of the founders or one of the controlling heads of that band.
Sepultura was formed and headed by the Cavaleras since day one.
Apples and oranges, son.
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COMMENT | NOT
posted by :
7/2/2009 1:47:25 PM
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a classy thing to say. As a musician, this is out of line.
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COMMENT |
posted by : stevensrangers
7/2/2009 1:48:36 PM
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Hey Jason, at least the band and Andreas are playing metal (not like rock star superpoopy) and doing something. What have you done post-Metallica (ya i know, voivod).
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COMMENT | ...
posted by :
7/2/2009 1:51:52 PM
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I haven`t liked anything by Seps since at least 1994. Either way, some bands are defined by certain members and Newsted is right to say the Seps aren`t really the Seps without one or other of the Cavaleras. Same as Motorhead wouldn`t work without Lemmy, Maiden without Harris, Megadeth without Mustaine or Metallica without eitehr Ulrich or Hetfield.
It`s clear that Newsted and Kisser are friends, I`m sure Kisser knows how Newstead feels about this so I don`t see how it`s out of order.
As for Newsted leaving Metallica, I respect him for it. Staying when he wasn`t feeling it anymore and taking the paychecks would have been far worse. Besides, he got to play with Voivod for a few years, one of the greatest bands ever!
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COMMENT |
posted by : datsyuk1
7/2/2009 1:52:15 PM
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AND WE CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF SEPULTURA WHY?
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COMMENT | 5150
posted by :
7/2/2009 1:56:01 PM
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Your opinion is weak just like your name. Max rules. Roots is already a classic album, and Max is one of the originators of extreme metal. His voice represents the music - in your face aggression and violence. Hey, its not for everyone, but for you to diss Max like that, I had to respond, even though this means nothing. I just wanted to let you know that your weak and Max would piss on you.
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COMMENT | Note to Jason..
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:00:40 PM
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Both brothers left the band on their own free will. One to do nu-metal, one to do rap and dance dj-ing.
The band does just fine without them. I have seen them with Derrick (usually the people that say this or slam the band now HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM LIVE WITH DERRICK), and I was a skeptic at first, but the shows I saw he fuckin' smoked.
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COMMENT | AND WE CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF SEPULTURA WHY?
posted by : Million Dollar Man
7/2/2009 2:02:02 PM
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The irony is fucking delicious.
Anyways, I don't see what the big deal is. Idiots do nothing but talk shit here all day, but when it's a musician giving his honest opinion, everyone freaks out. He's entitled to think whatever he wants. And he's really not wrong. Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains, Arise and Chaos A.D absolutely destroy anything that came afterwards.
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COMMENT | Agreed
posted by : v.o.r.
7/2/2009 2:02:21 PM
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As a big Sepultura fan, I have to agree with Jason. I picked up everything with the exception of Roorback and whatever the new one is called.
I like Derrick, but with no Cavaleras - it's not Sepultura.
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COMMENT | Johnny_boy_Angel
posted by : J-House
7/2/2009 2:02:40 PM
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yes.
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COMMENT | hmm
posted by : g0zer
7/2/2009 2:04:23 PM
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if they have the legal right to use the name and (hopefully) the blessing of the bro's then why not?
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COMMENT | artjunkie
posted by : -gODGRINDER-
7/2/2009 2:13:33 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding the context of my comment.
Newsted had a stellar career with Metallica because Metallica sallied forth under the realization that as a band, as an idea, Metallica much bigger than the sum of its parts.
Same applies to Sepultura, Napalm Death, or any other big-name acts where the original "founding" members are largely or completely absent from the current lineups.
For Newsted to say something like that about Sepultura when he himself was a replacement for an original (founding, schmounding....Cliff was on the first CD) member of Metallica is just stupid.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:21:33 PM
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'I Don't Think It was Proper For METALLICA To Go On With miserable individuals"... Sorry, to go on after Cliff's death simply!
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COMMENT | why do you say that shit?!?!?!?!?!
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:31:57 PM
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thats bullshit jason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sepultura dont need Max or iggor.
listen to "A-LEX" and you know what I mean.
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COMMENT | It's an evolution!
posted by : J-House
7/2/2009 2:33:42 PM
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The Sepultura line up that we have today didn't happen when Max, Igor, and Jairo T for that matter quit the band and were replaced with Derrick, Jean, and Andreas....it was an evolution. First they traded out Jairo T for Andreas(who has spent the last 20+ years in Sepultura since) and then 10 years later with that line up Max said, "Hey, fuck you guys, I don't want to be here anymore, waa waa waa, Gloria Gloria Gloria, waa waa waa I quit"!
Then they regrouped and even took a year or so of jamming together and writing new material with just the 3, even toying with the idea of Andreas taking over lead vocals. When it became clear that it wasn't an option for Andreas to do both lead vocals and essentially handle all the guitar duties, they went on the search for a new singer...enter Derrick. And now, 10 more years passes with that line up...
And NOW, after 25 years of the bands existence Igor, the drummer leaves the band...and this is the time that people want to start griping about how "this isn't the true Sepultura" and blah blah blah. This is it...Sepultura, like it or not. And I for one think they have every right to carry on without Max and Igor...why? Because this didn't happen overnight. It happened over the course of many years! And, both Max and Igor left on their own accord.
It's a band, not a solo project...these things happen, get over it.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:35:39 PM
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Sepultura need a pissed off brazilian guy singing, not some vegetarian from ohio.
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COMMENT | Jason is right as usual
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:40:22 PM
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RIP Sepultura (1985-1987)
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COMMENT | SEPULTURA HAS CARRIED ON!!
posted by : My Godless Endeavor
7/2/2009 2:52:31 PM
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Its called the Cavalera Conspiracy. They have Max and Igor plus a guitarist wayyy better than Andreas named Marc Rizzo. Whats everyone complaining about?
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COMMENT | Fuck off Jason
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:52:35 PM
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that shit was uncalled for. THat's some shit someone in your position DONT say. I don't give a fuck how much you like Andreas. Go suck Max's dick.
As for Andreas vs. Cliff thing, Metallica really took off w/ Cliff. Likewise, Sepultura was really not worth your attention (unless you were part of South American underground scene) until Andreas joined and started to chip in his two cents. So Andreas and Paulo Jr. (an original member who's still in the band) still has the right to go on as Sepultura.
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COMMENT | Jason is wrong as usual
posted by :
7/2/2009 2:55:38 PM
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Fuck this dick, his so-called friend Andreas needs his support, and he's stabbing him in the back. Just like he did to Flotsam and Jetsam long ago. What a complete turd, no wonder Metallica hated him all those years.
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COMMENT | I disagree...
posted by : suffer2ascend
7/2/2009 2:56:04 PM
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although I do agree that theoretically, there probably shouldn't be a Sepultura with no Cavaleras. it just doesn't seem right.
however... I wonder if Jason actually listened to their new A-Lex album. it is probably THE best thing that they've done ever since Max left the band. if you can listen to it and forget the Sepultura name for just a second, you'll realize what a fucking good album this is.
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COMMENT | .
posted by : zombi3
7/2/2009 3:02:58 PM
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flosam and jetsam reunion please
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COMMENT | chillpenguin666
posted by : artjunkie
7/2/2009 3:06:03 PM
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Yes because vegetables have everything to do with....well, nothing. Yoda says, weak your agrument is.
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COMMENT | as previously mentioned....
posted by :
7/2/2009 3:08:44 PM
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Max and Igor both chose to leave Sepultura. Why should the others give up on something they have been a part of creating because others choose to leave? Max was a big loss as he was the voice but Igor leaving is the deciding factor in disbanding Sepultura? Jason is entitled to his opinion but fortunately his opinion doesnt mean squat. Not that I am a Packers fan, but should they change their name because Favre chose to leave?
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COMMENT | "NOT PROPER???"
posted by :
7/2/2009 3:13:45 PM
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it's not proper for them to go on?? wtf, is he the grandma of metal? the cavalera brothers chose to leave because they had other things they deemed it necessary to do. Andreas Kisser is as important a member in the band as those two.
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COMMENT | He was asked his opinion on Sepultura, this article is out of context.
posted by :
7/2/2009 3:14:26 PM
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This is the context, the full interview,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN8FnqHUp3U
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COMMENT |
posted by : jeffgq
7/2/2009 3:18:28 PM
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Jasonic fuckin RULES!
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COMMENT | Perspective
posted by :
7/2/2009 3:20:58 PM
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He also said he thinks Voivod should change their name if they record anything without Piggy[RIP] and do new material with a new guitarist. Because Voivod was Piggy`s beainchild. Thats an argument that Voivodians all pretty much agree with that they should change their name. The original bandmembers talk about that in current interviews and on their website, so thats the same perspective he is talking here.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 3:21:08 PM
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What the fuck business is it of his anyhow?
Paulo is an original member, and Andreas had been with them for 9 years when Max left, and 19 years when Igggor left.
Andreas has earned the right to carry on the Sepultura name in my opinion.
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COMMENT | The full interview with Jason
posted by :
7/2/2009 3:23:03 PM
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Heres the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN8FnqHUp3U
I wonder why Blabbermouth didnt post the video link?
Of all the comments in the interview they make a headline of this!
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COMMENT | It's Sepultura NOT Cavalera!
posted by : J-House
7/2/2009 3:27:59 PM
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It seems that people are really getting caught up with the last Cavalera leaving the band. Why does that matter? Who cares? I mean, if Igor stayed and Andreas, the other prolific member of Sepultura besides Max left the band and they went and got Joe Shmo, then they'd have a problem...THAT wouldn't make alot of sense. "Cavalera" inclusion in Sepultura don't mean shit. They would have to have either Max or Andreas...and they've got Andreas so they're good.
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COMMENT |
posted by : quigonkick
7/2/2009 3:30:23 PM
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So I guess then that Napalm Death shouldn't have gone past 1991. I mean, by then all the original member's REPLACEMENT had been replaced! Third generation members, yet they are absolutely KILLING IT today!
Hard to imagine, eh?
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COMMENT |
posted by : Daisy May Tinklepants
7/2/2009 3:36:35 PM
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thank you for stating the obvious. now you can go back to playing shows in front of three people
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COMMENT |
posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
7/2/2009 3:41:35 PM
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Last good METALLICA album: JUSTICE
Last good SEPULTURA album: ARISE
Period.
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COMMENT | hmmmm
posted by :
7/2/2009 4:11:01 PM
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I didn't know Newsted was so stupid. Oh well...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 4:13:56 PM
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Yeah, hes real dumb. He can retire today and be just fine financially, cant say thats exactly "stupid".
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COMMENT | oh, and
posted by :
7/2/2009 4:14:42 PM
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all you Max nuthuggers are pathetic. It's been years already, get the hell over it.
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COMMENT | Sunstyle
posted by :
7/2/2009 4:15:22 PM
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Exactly wtf does that have to do with his lame opinion about Sepultura?
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COMMENT | SEPULTURA N' ROLL
posted by : JakeE.GeddyLeeRoth
7/2/2009 4:17:16 PM
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Sepultura has become the Ratt of thrash metal. They should have hung it up after Roots. Against sucked except for a couple tracks. I haven't bothered listening to them since. They have soiled their legacy instead of ending it with some decency.
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COMMENT | Ha!
posted by : bionicvapourdude
7/2/2009 4:31:41 PM
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I bet if Paulo decided to quit, Jason would be begging Andreas for a job in this "fake" Sepultura.
LMAO
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COMMENT | johnny_boy_angel
posted by :
7/2/2009 4:35:43 PM
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Sepultura are NOT doing fine without Max and havent done since his departure..simple reason, theyre no way as good as there were with him. have a look at Sepultura's album sales from Roots onwards..the figures says it all.
i respect Jason a hell of alot..and he is right. 100%
remember this..Roots has been and always will be a very highly respected album in the music scene. Roots will always be an epic album. what the fuck have Sepultura done since? jack shit in 13 years
yes, THIRTEEN years ago
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COMMENT | the bottom line is this
posted by : suffer2ascend
7/2/2009 4:45:17 PM
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a band member's vital role in the band should depend on seniority, and how much input they have to the songwriting (music & lyrics). a band member's importance should be based on these things. so, 2 founding members are no longer in the band. should this mean that the rest of the guys should have to hang it up? I don't think so.
for example... let's say in a few years that Paulo decides to leave the band. they should still deserve to continue as Sepultura with another bassist.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 4:48:52 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN8FnqHUp3U
The quote is not out of context. The geniuses at Blabbermouth just wanted to create a headline that would start a flame war. It's no secret that Blabbermouth likes to present only a portion of a story, sometimes out of context, to provide the basement dwellers a means to vent their hate.
I wonder why I ever come back here.
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COMMENT | stgeorge666 -
posted by : suffer2ascend
7/2/2009 4:50:22 PM
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your comments are pure bullshit. fuck album sales. just because their so called "important" classic albums are behind them (Beneath The Remains, Arise) doesn't mean that they are not doing fine. their album sales and concert attendance are apparently doing well enough for them to continue making a living for themselves.
the problem is, fuckwads like you insist on comparing everything they do to their "classic" albums that they did with Max. what the hell is the fucking point in doing that? their last few albums are pretty damn good on their own merit, this is a fact.
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COMMENT | just happy
posted by : sonderkommando
7/2/2009 4:51:56 PM
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jason's out there. nothing but respect for the man.
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COMMENT | good riddance Cavaleras
posted by : bionicvapourdude
7/2/2009 4:52:14 PM
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The bottom line is this: Max was getting into all this nu-metal crap, so its a good thing he quit. Sepultura is much better off without his "backdafukup" bullshit lyrics.
And Igor of today is nowhere near the level of the Igor of the Beneath the Remains/Arise era, so I don't really care that he quit.
Then when we hear the triumphant reunion of the Calaveras, and it pretty much sucks.... I am once again reminded why I don't care that they left.
Then throw in the fact that A-Lex is a killer album, I think everything worked out for the best.
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COMMENT |
posted by : The Dirt
7/2/2009 5:03:13 PM
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Why do you get upset by his comments?
He was asked, and he answered.. That's about it.
But of course; Sepultura was one of the biggest bands in the world in the mid 90s, saw them at Roskilde Festival in '94 and '96 along with 50000 people ,and now they play in my hometown in Norway, for 1000 people, Cavalera Conspiracy played for about 8000, and was far better. He's got a point.
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COMMENT | who cares?
posted by :
7/2/2009 5:25:26 PM
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They started sucking after Chaos AD, and both Cavaleras were still in the band. They've been dead to me for years.
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COMMENT | Cavalera Conspiracy
posted by : J-House
7/2/2009 5:30:14 PM
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Everyone keeps bringing them up like they are all the Sepultura you need...they are about as Sepultura as Soulfly was.
The Cavalera Conspiracy CD bit nuts! It sounded like they just through together a bunch of leftover riffs in studio with pro tools and called it an album. I love Max but he thinks his shit don't stink.
All of them need to get their heads out of their asses if you ask me and forget about all the bad blood. I would love to see a reunion, but still support the AgainSt years.
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COMMENT | What a fuckin joke!
posted by : sepulqotsa
7/2/2009 6:03:35 PM
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Some balls for someone who has made a career of joining established bands. Sepultura is nothing without Andreas Kisser. NOTHING!!!
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COMMENT | I think
posted by :
7/2/2009 6:26:33 PM
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ALL sepultura is good, almost all Soulfly is cool, Nailbomb and CC are great, though HIGHLY overrated just because of the presence of the Cavalera last name, which is a retarded reason to praise something.
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COMMENT | AMEN, JASON....
posted by : southmetal_guy
7/2/2009 6:26:58 PM
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MAX TOOK THE TALENT WITH HIM WHEN HE LEFT BACK IN 1996!
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COMMENT |
posted by : General Ceel
7/2/2009 6:43:05 PM
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Jason didn't say that the new Sepultura sucked. I think the point he was getting at was that the band was no longer actually Sepultura, but rather more like a different band using the name.
If we are going to talk about Sepultura "evolving" to its current line-up then the same thing must be said about the Current GnR line-up that everybody wants to bash for not being "the real GnR". As I recall, there was a lot of evolving going on in that line up over the years, both before and after the "classic line up". Nobody thinks they should still be called "Guns N Roses"....and I think thats what Jason is saying about Sepultura.
Oh, and the two albums Jason has released with Voivod have been pretty darn solid. Just because they only sell about a thousand copies in the USA doesn't change that.
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COMMENT | more like
posted by : erpbass6
7/2/2009 7:10:29 PM
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"yeah, i played 6 string bass on it...but only used 2 to 3 strings TOPS" - average bass player not musician.
what a ride, though! best wishes, jason! right place at the right time!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/2/2009 8:11:02 PM
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J House, smartest comment i've read here for a long time
Max is overrated, his lyrics these days are childish and repetative.
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COMMENT | artjunkie
posted by :
7/2/2009 9:11:42 PM
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To me it does, but all right, in this case, cleaveland doesn't rock. Better? Sorry, I hate greens vocals. It's a poor substitute for a brazilian accent, and max's vocals have gotten cooler with age, even if until recently, the music was lacking.
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COMMENT | St. George 666
posted by :
7/2/2009 9:27:28 PM
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We all know how meaningful "Record sales" are. I guess The jonas Brothers and Britney Spears are better than Motorhead and Ramones because they have outsold them probably 35 times over in about a third of the time....
White Castle sells more hamburgers than probably Friday's. Who has the much better hamburger?
Hence your argument is weak.
Roots to me was fuckin Korn music....
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COMMENT | Agree with Jason 100%
posted by : RiotAct666
7/2/2009 9:54:24 PM
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This version of sepultura is nothing more than a tribute band.
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COMMENT | I see where BBmouth's intention lies.
posted by : marchie
7/2/2009 11:17:20 PM
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They don't post "Jason Newsted talks about Infini and himself" but this.
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COMMENT |
posted by : YourDemise
7/3/2009 12:44:21 AM
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I'm so glad the real Sepultura have Marc Rizzo on guitar. He makes them sound fresh.
Cavalera Conspiracy should re-record all the Sepultura classics with Rizzo playing them on guitar and I bet you they will sound even better than the classics! :-D
\\m// Max & Igor \\m//
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COMMENT | suffer2ascend & johnny_boy_angel = 2 fuckwits
posted by :
7/3/2009 1:52:48 AM
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so, youre telling me that 'against' album sales were so poor because of downloading and copying? no. the fact was, it was shit. album sales in the 90's DO show a strength of unity in the metal scene, nowadays its inconsistant because of downloading and illegal copying.
this really made me laugh my tits off 'the problem is, fuckwads like you insist on comparing everything they do to their "classic" albums that they did with Max. what the hell is the fucking point in doing that? their last few albums are pretty damn good on their own merit, this is a fact'
a fact? whos fact? yours? dickhead. the FACT is..they do not matter anymore, they have declined in popularity for years, why? because theyre shit and people can see that for themselves. by the way, i wasnt comparing all their albums as 'classic', just 'Roots', which in the music industry is classed as an EPIC 90's metal album. FACT. so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
your mama shouldnt let you throw your dummy out of the pram, id of taken off you ages ago and given you a doll instead.
as for you johnny_boy_angel..the name suits.
'We all know how meaningful "Record sales" are. I guess The jonas Brothers and Britney Spears are better than Motorhead and Ramones because they have outsold them probably 35 times over in about a third of the time....'
BORING! ive heard this millions of times on these type of threads. do you copy and paste other peoples comments? no, i didnt say that..but the likes of Motorhead arent exactly a big band, are they? your comparing is like saying a mountain is the size of a molehill..no it isnt, dont be so pedantic. Roots sold well and i put all the money in the world that its still selling better than any of the Sepultura shit after Max left COLLECTIVELY..that states a fact, would you like me to show you some facts?
"Hence your argument is weak.
Roots to me was fuckin Korn music"
PATHETIC. you havent even got yourself a side to argue with. what a shitty statement to type.
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COMMENT | Mr Maiden
posted by : J-House
7/3/2009 2:36:15 AM
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Thanks!
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posted by : Deathinmusic
7/3/2009 7:38:55 PM
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I agree with Jason
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posted by : juanneman
7/9/2009 5:03:20 PM
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He may not be classy but he has expressed his sincere opinion, thing that I appreciate and agree with 100%.
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