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TRENT REZNOR Says GENE SIMMONS Is 'An Old Man Who Puts On Makeup To Entertain Kids' - July 14, 2009
Philippines' Inquirer.net recently conducted an interview with NINE INCH NAILS mainman Trent Reznor. A couple of excerpts from the question-and-answer session follow below.

Inquirer.net: You're putting NIN on hiatus after this "Wave Goodbye" tour but you'll continue to make music. Is this because NIN as a concept has become a straitjacket for you, since essentially you are NIN?

Reznor: No, I see what you mean. What I specifically said or meant to convey is that NIN as a touring live band or live band that's on the road all the time is stopping. I've just reached the point ... where it has invaded every other aspect of my life. Also I think creatively, my time would be better spent on other stuff that could be NIN or outside NIN. Some of it may be collaborative things. I have a number of projects that are not music-related which I have put on the back burner for a long time...

Inquirer.net: Much has been said about "The Downward Spiral" album and how your life was troubled at that time. But how do you maintain the passion to sing the songs in that record when things are different now?

Reznor: That's a good point ... I may not be the same guy I was then but for five minutes of that song, and probably an hour afterwards, it takes over. It's not going through the motions nor acting, you kinda become — I'm still driven by the same things that drove me to write it in the first place ... I wrote it as a cathartic way to get it out of my system, almost like therapy, and then when we went on tour I turned to drugs and alcohol and the songs spilled over and became me ... Now when I'm offstage, I'm not same guy onstage but it's driven by the same place. I'd never want to be Gene Simmons, an old man who puts on makeup to entertain kids, like a clown going to work ... In my paranoia, I fear that if I don't stop this, it could become that. Because it's nice to get a paycheck, and now the only way to get a paycheck is to play live, so it's all those things swirling around in my head.

Inquirer.net: You've been very vocal about the state of the record industry and how labels have been greedy about the whole business. How do you think it can be improved, if at all?

Reznor: It's a kind of Mafia-type run business .. They have systematically taken advantage of artists over the years from THE BEATLES onwards. You [the artists] do all the work, they loan you money to make records, then you pay them back and they own everything. To see that system collapse is an exciting thing. There isn't a clear answer on what the right thing to do is right now, and as a musician you're up against a pretty difficult scenario: most kids feel it's OK to steal music, and do freely ... The good news is that people are excited and interested in music ...

As an artist it's your job to capitalize on that. It means generally swallowing a bitter pill and saying, "Hey, people don't want to buy music, so let me give it to you. I'll find another way to make money but I want you on my side and hearing my music. So let's get rid of this walled garden of having to pay to hear it, here it is, give it to your friends. Hey, try to come to our show if you can, or you can buy this T-shirt of ours if you like, and that will help us out. Or, here's a nice version of our album that we put in a cool package for a premium price and we're only selling a couple thousands of them."

There are ways that you can monetize your business, but the traditional way of going to a record store and having to pay for it, those days are over. In the States, there aren't any record stores left. The only place ... is like a Best Buy where you go to buy a washing machine and there's a tiny rack of DVDs and CDs. I think we're in between business models right now ...

I'm trying everything I can to contribute to when that next model does come up, whatever it might be, whether it's subscriptions or whatever, where the artist is more fairly represented and has a say and is compensated, and you're not paying for jets for record label CEOs ... They're in their last moments of death and I'm happy to see them go 'cause they're all thieves and liars.

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COMMENT | Hack
posted by : Morgagne
7/14/2009 11:33:42 AM

"Metal" Morgagne says Trent Reznor is a middle aged clown who dresses like a woman to entertain kids

COMMENT |
posted by : booch
7/14/2009 11:35:06 AM

nice

COMMENT | Hey Trent........
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
7/14/2009 11:37:48 AM

release the Tapeworm CD now.

COMMENT | NikkiBlack
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
7/14/2009 11:40:14 AM

That's because NIN is a band and KI$$ is an informercial.

Buy 2 KI$$ Coffins in the next 5 minutes and we'll throw in a box of KI$$ tampons for no additional charge.

ORDER NOW!!!!!!!

COMMENT | Case in point...
posted by : borikeepsbanningme
7/14/2009 11:50:43 AM

Fucktheworld420 aka downsuck420. 1d stoner...

COMMENT |
posted by : rufus_creampie
7/14/2009 11:55:23 AM

downsuck420:

"my mom lol listens to kiss lol she bought me a cd of thers when i was five lol"

COMMENT |
posted by : rufus_creampie
7/14/2009 11:56:49 AM

BTW:

Tapeworm will never be released, it's sealed in the coffin. Enjoy that track on eMotive.

COMMENT |
posted by : rufus_creampie
7/14/2009 12:02:02 PM

I don't think you're full of shit. I believe every word you say. I just think you're retarded.

COMMENT |
posted by : rufus_creampie
7/14/2009 12:07:00 PM

I download the fuck out of everything. If it's available on vinyl and I like it then I buy it. If it's only on CD then tough shit, I'm not paying fifteen dollars for a plastic disc with tiny ass artwork. I'll go to your shows and buy a shirt but CD's are useless to me.

COMMENT | Reznor
posted by : Diamnrust
7/14/2009 12:17:27 PM

Sucks and heads on of the most ovverated bands ever.

COMMENT | Kiss= Clowns
posted by : boognishforever
7/14/2009 12:19:19 PM

It's about time someone in the music business tells it like it is. The fans of Kiss are children who are impressed by fake blood and cheesy pyrotechnics. Kiss is a tired 70's glam rock band that should stick to their "Farewell Tour" promises and hang it up for good. That way they could concentrate on what Kiss is really all about. Developing shitty Kiss merchandise for their idiot fans to buy.

COMMENT | Best Buy where you go to buy a washing machine and there's a tiny rack of DVDs and CDs
posted by : shattered73
7/14/2009 12:19:28 PM

I say that's an appropriate venue to buy Nine Inch Nails music, since to me their 'music' always sounded like someone threw a pair of roller skates in a washing machine and turned it on.

KISS - love em or hate em - despite all their merchendise, could always write good, catchy, hooky pop rock songs that people have, do, and will enjoy for years to come. NIN is noise for little emo kids to annoy their parents with.

COMMENT | J-House...
posted by : Sonic Titan
7/14/2009 12:23:30 PM

you might be the only one n here today who can read a posted interview and comprehend what's being said. Blabbermouth often titles the threads in a way as to get attention. No problem with that there. The problem starts when the brain dead morons read the title and don't bother to read the thread. Or they do read the thread and have no clue what's being said.
Fucking idiots the lot of you are.

COMMENT | 420
posted by : Skanna
7/14/2009 12:26:40 PM

how nice that you were shooting guns at 4, that's reassuring to know.

it's not cool to say fuck every 3rd word either. every 3rd sentence, maybe.

COMMENT |
posted by : Mingleton
7/14/2009 12:27:54 PM

downsucks420, you're an idiot.

COMMENT |
posted by : Sonic Titan
7/14/2009 12:29:13 PM

...and. I agree 100% with Reznor on the record industry. Artists > Ceo's

COMMENT | Artists do all the work...?
posted by : deflepplin
7/14/2009 12:38:27 PM

Hmmm, last time I checked, there are thousands of people who work their asses off for the music biz. I'd like to see some big artist create their own concert hall, sell all their own tickets, do all their own stage setup, provide their own security, bring their own damn whiskey and M&Ms and caviar and what-not, design, print and sell their own t-shirts, hand package and ship all of their cds, record their own music without a producer/engineer....ect ect...

Gawd these aholes really think they are sooooo important, "ooohhhh, look at me, I wrote a song...I'm changing the world, I'm so cultured and tortured and cool and you are all sheep..." bla bla bla. FOR FUCK SAKE WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. YES, thank you for making some decent music to listen to while I'm in my car or whatever, but when you start thinking everything is about you and your fucking art, you can FOAD you pretentious asshole.

COMMENT | Sonic Titan
posted by : J-House
7/14/2009 12:38:55 PM

dig the name. Sleep >>>>>>>>>>>>>> KISS

COMMENT |
posted by : chillpenguin666
7/14/2009 1:00:02 PM

well, go fuck yourself reznor.

COMMENT | downsucks420
posted by : rufus_creampie
7/14/2009 1:02:42 PM

aren't you the same guy that was knocking Faith No More because your mom bought you The Real Thing because it had a War Pigs cover and then you whined because Patton was rapping?

you fucking cheesedick

COMMENT |
posted by : Afredo
7/14/2009 1:03:27 PM

I fail to see how a dude with emo hair who talks in a monotone voice over a beatbox and calls it music thinks he is in a position to make fun of a metal legend.

COMMENT | NIN is booooooooooooooooooooooooooo-riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
posted by : Angry Johnny
7/14/2009 1:15:11 PM

Trent is still reading the media press releases from the early 90's when dressing gay/goth and programming a drum machine was some kind of "exciting new ground to cover".

This whole "Industrial" style is such a snore-fest. I'm not saying that there's not a HALF A DOZEN GOOD SONGS that Trent has managed to scrape out of his virtually talentless hack-hood . . . but he's got absolutely no fucking business trying to step on ANY OTHER BAND'S TOES.

I would rather NEVER put out an album then live a day as Trent Reznor.

COMMENT | Easy guys!!!
posted by : buzzradio
7/14/2009 1:40:41 PM

Don't let this self pretentious prick who thinks he can just bust any ones balls because his music career is failing get you all worked up. that's what he wants, NIN and Kiss are 2 different animals. You can't compare the 2. Look at it this way, if you had the resources to do what Kiss did, I'm sure you all would have done the same. They've built and empire, not because they suck, because they could and fans made it happen. So blame the fans for helping Kiss become an infomercial. Sure, sometimes I think Kiss is a littel excessive, but it's not affecting my life, their freaking legends man! As for Trent the Doosh, he needs to take his PMS meds and quit talking shit about every one, like he's some all knowing wizard, sure I like NIN, I think they rock. But NIN is a band, Trent's not up there all by himself like he thinks he is. Why make an ass out of your self when your shits falling apart. Sick of every one posting his dumb assed bullshit! lol

COMMENT | I'm a huge KISS fan!
posted by : AnthonyLynch
7/14/2009 1:48:23 PM

So, yesterday, while I was waiting for the bus, I was listening to The Slip, I was trying to get into it, I've never really gotten into NIN, and everythng was going ok...

Then, I woke up this morning, and I read the above interview, and I'm like, Trent, you really don't know what you're talking about. You've sold a few albums and even had to give one away.

Maybe you are, jealous. What could be more threatening to Trent Reznor's angst than a good time at KISS concert and BRAND SPANKING NEW KISS ALBUM! Have some coffee Trent, take a Prozac, buy the new KISS album and go see KISS on tour, twice, you can afford it!

COMMENT |
posted by : abigllama
7/14/2009 1:50:03 PM

"I've been listening to metal since I was like 3 and a half or some shit."

The Donald Duck sing along on your fisher price was brutal but it's not metal.

Anyway I saw NIN this summer for the first time, and Trent really is "that guy". He does his thing, pretends to get angry, knocks over a keyboard, the kids go crazy, another guy runs out and sets it back up, then Trent does it again a couple songs later.

Knock over keyboards or put on make-up it's the same redundant shtick crap that people expect you and you feed them.






COMMENT |
posted by : Biki
7/14/2009 1:51:32 PM

But trent, SO DO YOU!!!

COMMENT | at least kiss is entertaining.
posted by : megal0maniac
7/14/2009 1:53:49 PM

NIN is depressing modern crap rock/dance drivel performed by metrosexual looking dudes !

COMMENT | BIG news
posted by : Selma
7/14/2009 1:56:23 PM

;-)

COMMENT | A little depth please
posted by : headshrink
7/14/2009 2:01:24 PM

I didn't see Johnny Cash in a hurry to cover any Kiss tunes.

COMMENT |
posted by : Thurteen
7/14/2009 2:19:01 PM

KIDS MY ASS

HE PLAYS FOR MIDDLE AGED VIRGINS

COMMENT |
posted by : rufus_creampie
7/14/2009 2:22:10 PM

Steve Albini was saying all of this about record companies 20 years ago.

COMMENT | deflepplin
posted by : o2w4e
7/14/2009 2:26:50 PM

Well said! I was thinking the same thing!

COMMENT | Geez Trent..
posted by : trishygrrl
7/14/2009 2:36:18 PM

Why such a sour puss as of late....Your engaged, your rich, whats there to be pissed about?

COMMENT | KISS & NIN
posted by : RiotAct666
7/14/2009 2:48:20 PM

Are both great bands who make good music. i'll leave it as that.

COMMENT | Trent Reznor
posted by : firstsong
7/14/2009 2:52:05 PM

I appreciate his thoughts on the music business.

COMMENT | defleppin
posted by : vanbasten6247
7/14/2009 2:52:37 PM

100% agree with you. I don't believe in that what some musicians said "we do all the work". I've been involved in the music business in diverse ways, and eventhough I agree that some major music labels have suck the blood of some artists like leaches, it's also true that without their support (more doing it more honestly or considering more the artists than others) they will never got out from their garage when they used to rehearsal or playing dirty/filthy clubs for 200 $ the gig. The are partnerships, and there are pacts with the devil, where they own your soul and everything you create. There must be a winning - winning solution, where everybody is happy. It's a filthy business, infested with sharks (less in these days, but still), but if ou make the right choices (get a good lawyer to advice you all the way, per example). Anyway, artists (musicians in this case) don't do all the work like T.R. says, maybe he does a lot since his music is mostly computer created and he can be able to do a lot of stuff on his own (produce, mix, record, artwork, whatever...), but is not the general situation.

COMMENT |
posted by : pigchop
7/14/2009 3:06:05 PM

we paved every road with gold
did it all for every randy dandy
ain't no looking back on tomorrow
no lead lined thruway today

COMMENT | Majorgeek
posted by : 008
7/14/2009 3:10:14 PM

Everyone knows Kiss borrowed whatever they could from The Beatles to Alice Cooper and even the hair metal bands from 85-93. It just wasn't worth mentioning or even repeating.

COMMENT | BSlash24
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 3:26:48 PM

You and i have been on here for a long time and i respect your posts, but i dont understand this one, if that is the case i can be sued for wearing cloths because they wore cloths in the 70's, or i can be sued for brushing my teeth because they did that in the 70's, because kiss does the make up thing doesnt meen they copied any one, they play guitar but they arent copying anyone, any ways, peace dude,

COMMENT | abigllama
posted by : Billy Oxygen
7/14/2009 3:28:45 PM

I'm guessing the sing-a-longs still happen to this day...just before nap time.

COMMENT |
posted by : payola
7/14/2009 3:32:08 PM

oh and i saw KISS recently and the concert was fantastic...nuff said for aging old men in make up...remember "entertainment business" not "boring goth electronic MINISTRY rip off business"....and trent has worn enough make up to clasify as "clown" on his work permit :)

COMMENT |
posted by : bigborman
7/14/2009 3:33:35 PM

FUCK YOU TRENT REZNOR

COMMENT | whatever
posted by : rando
7/14/2009 3:52:07 PM

Personally, I would rather be a clown entertaining children than a neurotic loner entertaining suicidal teenagers. Nevermind that Kiss has created far better music and way better concerts. This guy, his "music", and the entire trend he represents are a big part of why most music sucks these days.

COMMENT | good point
posted by : BSlash24
7/14/2009 3:58:39 PM

Rando McNally makes a good point as well. I've seen both bands, thoroughly liked KiSS better. Saw NIN on first Lollapolooza, that was decent, then got drag a couple years ago, a snoozefest. Just a wall of industrial noise, that NIN. a rare show that I just wanted to go. Very robotic, souless show...but then again, that is KiSS now too, I'd have more respect w/out selling Thayer as Ace, and mixing up the set list.

COMMENT |
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 4:03:33 PM

I am doing this in between customers, i miss spelled every thing!!!!

COMMENT | PS
posted by : BSlash24
7/14/2009 4:11:21 PM

who's to say you're male. I shouldn't assume....there was a guy that sold RV's out here, maybe that's you. KiSS RVs?

COMMENT | PPS
posted by : BSlash24
7/14/2009 4:12:57 PM

you mispelled miss spelled! you must have lots of customers today. least you're workin'!

COMMENT |
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 4:26:18 PM

Good memory, i sell RV's, Pensacole Fl., its slow with this economy right now, see ya on the next one.

COMMENT | Get up and make it work
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 5:22:59 PM

Dude get your facts right - Kiss does not struggle to fill 1500 seats casinoes, they still sell an average amounts of tickets, the fair concert was not a fair, the arena is on the fair grounds, and look it uo and you will see that most good bands play there, it only make you sound like an idiot when you shoot off when you dont know what the hell you are saying,

COMMENT |
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 5:32:20 PM

One more thing, 2004 Kiss tour, wasnt great on ticket selling but they sold more tickets on that tour than 95 % of the band mentioned on this site, and that is without having new music.

COMMENT |
posted by : sharpskies
7/14/2009 5:37:38 PM

NIN>KISS, even though I concede the fact that NIN may not have ever been with out KISS.

all aspects considered, NIN > KISS.

that's my opinion. i don't care about yours, internet! ;) mwahahaha.

COMMENT | J-House...
posted by : Sonic Titan
7/14/2009 5:49:49 PM

SLEEP! Someone got it. Finally!
Holy Mountain and Dopesmoker = Heavy DOOM!


Hey JRSPON, long time no see! New Ace material in September baby!

COMMENT | a story of TWO OLD MEN!! Ozzy and Tony Iommi
posted by : jvm138
7/14/2009 6:02:09 PM

here is Ozzy giving his TOP TEN REASONS why he is suing Tony Iommi!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgEP0U6DOw

COMMENT | STFU.....Trent.....
posted by : Rockin Ray
7/14/2009 6:25:41 PM

Sh%t band anyway.Cold Gin time again.)

COMMENT | So!
posted by : BassGod73
7/14/2009 6:27:08 PM

You put on Mascara and Nylons for EXACTLY the same reasons you fucktaard!

COMMENT | Sonic Titan
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 6:46:21 PM

Hey brother, i am starting to see more of us old timers on here, hope all is well, BRING ON THE US DATES!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | longsincedark
posted by : JRSPON
7/14/2009 6:56:46 PM

This is not about worsiping a band, its about going to see a band (KISS) that brings it 110% every night , best rock live performance on the earth!!!!

COMMENT | silence is deafening
posted by : snowy white
7/14/2009 6:58:35 PM

The only thing that Reznor is way off about is saying that Kiss is appealing to young people. Today's youth market doesn't care about Kiss and their older audience is only interested in the nostalgia factor Kiss brings live.

Their new record is gonna tank and during the up coming tour when Stanley says "Do ya wanna hear a new song!?!" the only thing you're gonna hear is a pin drop.

COMMENT | Tell you what though
posted by : Scotts_Orange_Juice
7/14/2009 7:22:16 PM

Trent is sure the shit talker ain't he....

COMMENT | .
posted by : Blackenistheyend
7/14/2009 7:33:27 PM

If you like Kiss better than Nine Inch Nails you may be retarded

COMMENT | Sleep
posted by : wmbatteryguy
7/14/2009 7:35:50 PM

Sleep's Holy Mountain,Vol.II,Jerusalem and Dopesmoker....Closest thing to Sabbath period.

COMMENT | ...
posted by : Raiders757
7/14/2009 8:48:50 PM

Damn Trent, my local Best Buy has over three rows dedicated to music. They even have more variety than the local FYE. My area also has several mom & pop music stores still surviving. I guess I'm rather lucky.

COMMENT | how exactly
posted by : benstl
7/14/2009 8:52:01 PM

is trent reznor not just the same thing of a different generation

he wrote some great stripper music

sold a few records, wore chick make up and brooded

nin is and always was a barely talented group of musicians making keyboard drum dance songs

COMMENT | Majorgeek
posted by : headshrink
7/14/2009 10:18:50 PM

Hey, It's not like I'm a huge Johnny Cash fan and no I haven't even seen much of "Walk The Line". the point I was trying to make is he was able to do wonders with one of Reznor's songs because it actually had some depth and substance. Look I get the whole good time Rock N' Roll thing but you think Kiss might have few songs of some depth by accident alone as long as they have been doing it. Someone earlier mentioned that they borrowed everything from Alice Cooper but even Alice who talks about it all being "showbiz" has some songs with some depth to them.

COMMENT |
posted by : payola
7/15/2009 5:24:00 AM

Trent's legacy is the slanted emo hair cut of 90% of rock bands today....thanks Trent, that was awesome dude!!!

COMMENT | KISS' classic music IS timeless...
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
7/15/2009 9:30:14 AM

...and some Blabbergoof claiming otherwise can't change that fact. As someone who owns cds by both KISS and NIN, I find it funny (and predictable) that some want to come on here and generalize people in two seperate camps and in negative terms either way.

And why in the hell would anyone want KISS to record music with "depth" as opposed to the straight forward rock they have excelled at? I wouldn't ask that of AC/DC or Motorhead or any band that could give two shits about creating music with "deep meaning"

Kudos to Spaceman69 for his comments.

NP: Marillion "Script For A Jester's Tear"

COMMENT | zombiestompa
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
7/15/2009 9:33:17 AM

Excellent post.
Fair points and well said.



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