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GODSMACK Frontman Slams MÖTLEY CRÜE For Bringing 'Rock-Star Garbage' To 'Crüe Fest 2'
- Sep. 10, 2009
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GODSMACK frontman Sully Erna has told Artisan News Service that taking part in this summer's Crüe Fest 2 was a good move for his band and their fans, and at the same time was the worst tour they've ever done. Erna and the rest of GODSMACK joined with headliners MÖTLEY CRÜE plus support acts THEORY OF A DEADMAN, DROWNING POOL and CHARM CITY DEVILS for this year's travelling rock festival, which kicked off on July 19 in Camden, New Jersey. On why the tour was good: Erna: "The tour has been really good. We've come out here to do a job, to show our fans that all the rumors that have been stewing and brewing about, 'Is this the beginning of the end?' 'Did GODSMACK break up? We haven't heard from them in a couple of years.' We came to just kind of rectify that, because, really, what it's been about is us poking our heads out and saying, 'We're here, we're healthier, we're alive, we're getting along better than ever.'" On what it was like for GODSMACK off stage on the Crüe Fest 2 tour: Erna: "I will tell you, it's been the most dramatic tour we've ever been on. I mean, talk about just craziness, man. Sometimes egos run high, man, and there's definitely been some rock-star garbage on this tour that just have never seen in our career. Every band — from BLACK SABBATH to AEROSMITH, RUSH, METALLICA... you name it... They've always... I don't think there was ever a threat, you know what I mean?! Like who's gonna dwarf METALLICA anyways? But there's always just been this mutual kind of like, 'We wanna put on a great show, so bring your bells and whistles, bring your show, so between you guys and us, we can make these people get a bang for their buck.' And that's really what entertainment has always been about. And so, I've never been in a position before where we felt we had to really protect this thing; it's kind of like a dog with a bone — you put us up against a wall and we're gonna come out swinging." On whether MÖTLEY CRÜE might have been acting out of ego competition between Crüe Fest 2 bands or living up to previous travelling tours like Ozzfest: Erna: "I don't know who needs to live up to whose reputations and I don't know why some people consider music as a competition, but I will tell you that I have never been in a situation where I felt like I was out for blood, and honestly, this was the first time that I felt like, 'You know what?! If there's gonna be some people that are gonna treat other people a certain way, then I'm gonna go out there every night and fucking crush you on stage — make sure that we make you look old and fat, and go home with a nice big fat paycheck. You can sit in your world and I'll sit in mine, and [I'll] see you at the top again, I guess, somewhere...' I don't know. All I care about, really, is playing music and enjoying myself on the road. I'm not here to compete. Everybody has their fans, everybody has their own music, and it's supposed to be more like a brotherhood, but... I don't know. It's been a good time for us out here, but in other situations, there's definitely been some uncomfortable moments." Watch video footage of Sully Erna talking about Crüe Fest 2 at this location. The 32-city trek had its final performance on September 5 at the Darien Lake Performing Arts Center in Darien Lake, New York. GODSMACK recently released a new single called "Whiskey Hangover" in conjunction with its appearance on Crüe Fest 2. The next GODSMACK album will be the band's first collection of all-new material since 2006's "IV". In late 2007, the band released a greatest hits collection called "Good Times, Bad Times - Ten Years of Godsmack" and announced that it was going on hiatus. Erna worked on his solo album during this period, while the other three members of the group started a side project called ANOTHER ANIMAL. Altitude TV has posted quality video footage of GODSMACK performing the song "Re-Align" at a stop on the Crüe Fest 2 tour. Watch the clip below.
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COMMENT | yeah uhm
posted by : dirtyred976
9/10/2009 4:58:35 AM
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This douche bag needs to not cry about anything. He is lucky his shitty ass band is even on a tour considering how bad they suck.
Please Sully take your band and
go away
stay away
keep away
Your band sucks,your lyrics suck,and your whole career have done nothing but be an annoyance to the metal community. FUCK OFF....plus the Crue are way cooler and that is not saying much.
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COMMENT | HONESTY...
posted by :
9/10/2009 4:59:59 AM
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Great to hear!
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COMMENT | douch
posted by : charliee13
9/10/2009 5:08:14 AM
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using the lyrics of a band to explain why they sux is kinda lame dude, surelly if they sux like u say then u wouldnt have listened to them to know the lyrics! they make rock songs and they do it well they dont claim to be anything else!
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COMMENT | Charlie....
posted by : dirtyred976
9/10/2009 5:16:19 AM
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When this garbage first came out there was no escape from it. It played in every bar, every station on the radio I sadly could'nt escape, and it is so repetitous that it stained my brain with it's horrid lyrical shit brand. They CLAIM to be metal,played bills with metal bands,and happened to be annoying openers on every bill when people wanted to see metal and were annoyed with this shitty excuse for music. It was good time to get beer, but when I pay to see good music I can get beer before the show. You sir are the douche Mr.Charliee the gay unicorn fucker !!
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COMMENT | GODSMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by :
9/10/2009 5:20:46 AM
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godmack is back and i cant weait for the new album!!!! fuck the idiot above who is a hater!!~!!!!!
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COMMENT | go to wal mart
posted by : dirtyred976
9/10/2009 5:24:14 AM
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get the other albums they have put out...then you will know what anything else they release will sound like.
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COMMENT | jesus
posted by : megal0maniac
9/10/2009 5:41:25 AM
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motley are mediocre at best performance wise and all the other bands are either alterna-crap or nu-crap.
Why spent money on that. I d gatecrash !
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COMMENT | What the hell is this guy on about?
posted by :
9/10/2009 5:45:07 AM
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He doesn't actually say anything. Sounds like Mr 15-minutes-of-fame just wants to make a headline.
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COMMENT | ..
posted by :
9/10/2009 5:48:05 AM
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"Rock Star Garbage"?
Had he never HEARD Motley Crue before?
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COMMENT |
posted by : Ofazz
9/10/2009 6:17:52 AM
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I really want to hate on this band...
But I think with fans like theirs they ought to be ashamed enough already...
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COMMENT |
posted by : Your Mom's Best Friend
9/10/2009 6:24:08 AM
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RobotAct666: "Great interview! Can't wait to bend over and let Sully Erna have his way with me!!!"
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COMMENT | KEEP IT COMIN!!!
posted by : dirtyred976
9/10/2009 6:44:31 AM
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PREACH ON METAL BRETHEREN!!! SPREAD THE WORD THAT SULLY ERNA AND HIS BAND OF DOUCHE BAGS SUCK AND ALWAYS WILL!!
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COMMENT | An enigma wrapped in a riddle
posted by : Wile E Coyote Super Genius
9/10/2009 6:44:55 AM
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Could this talk any more shit while being any less vague? Seriously, if you have a problem then just fucking say it dude!
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COMMENT | LOL
posted by :
9/10/2009 6:56:58 AM
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So, you gonna make Vince Neil and Motley look old and fat with this poor pissing Hetfield impersonating and the lack of ability to write a good original song and sing in key? Good for you..
"great" stage presence btw..
douche.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 7:50:56 AM
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MORE SPECIFIC for anyone who needs specifics like the guy above.
1) this is NOT metal
2) the guy desperately wants to be Hetfield (mannerism's, dress, some vocals) but is 2% of the legend
3) the drummer is the ONLY member breaking a sweat and the only one with real talent
4) the crowd look bored, gee, I wonder why?
5) this is NOT metal
6) the singer has terrible pitch, obviously needs (relies on) major studio computer software wizardry to sound "good" on cd
7) THE SONG ABOVE SOUNDS LIKE A CROSS BETWEEN NIRVANA AND THAT BAND THAT DID THAT SONG "fly for a white guy", whatever they were called. And they have the balls to call themselves METAL??? Man, this is the most phony metal out there and a good representation of what not to emulate, kids.
8) Although the article refers to the band as being a co-headliner and maybe that is how it is billed and this Sully guy thinks...... they are setting up in front of Motley Crue so the ARE a support band. It is not their "show" or tour. They are backing up Motley.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Malio
9/10/2009 7:57:41 AM
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Is that guitar player on the right wearing a polo? Wow. That's metal.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Twistabister
9/10/2009 8:33:24 AM
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Wow.. Is this dude a retard? What is he trying to say.. Like.. I dont know..
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COMMENT | Uhhh....
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:33:38 AM
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Great way to not say anything!
I guess Sully is just looking for attention. After all, with the real Alice In Chains back, we don't need a lame imitation anymore!
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COMMENT | This about sums it up perfectly, well said:
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:38:08 AM
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"MORE SPECIFIC for anyone who needs specifics like the guy above.
1) this is NOT metal
2) the guy desperately wants to be Hetfield (mannerism's, dress, some vocals) but is 2% of the legend
3) the drummer is the ONLY member breaking a sweat and the only one with real talent
4) the crowd look bored, gee, I wonder why?
5) this is NOT metal
6) the singer has terrible pitch, obviously needs (relies on) major studio computer software wizardry to sound "good" on cd
7) THE SONG ABOVE SOUNDS LIKE A CROSS BETWEEN NIRVANA AND THAT BAND THAT DID THAT SONG "fly for a white guy", whatever they were called. And they have the balls to call themselves METAL??? Man, this is the most phony metal out there and a good representation of what not to emulate, kids.
8) Although the article refers to the band as being a co-headliner and maybe that is how it is billed and this Sully guy thinks...... they are setting up in front of Motley Crue so the ARE a support band. It is not their "show" or tour. They are backing up Motley."
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COMMENT |
posted by : sixxfixx
9/10/2009 8:40:36 AM
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Sully admits no one has heard anything from them in two years and is essentially using this tour as a platform to get back out there. Well, suck it up and deal. Crue has never, ever hid the fact they are "Rock Star Garbage." Any band that pens a song like "White Trash Circus" I think is pretty well in touch with who they are. His complaints about egos and competition just come off as whining. It's a given that Crue has some of biggest egos, something else not hidden by them. As far as being old and fat, well, no one stays young and pretty forever. One day he will end up eating those words because at the very least, Sully will get old. And I seriously doubt his band will be half the legend that Crue has become.
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COMMENT | dirtyred976
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:56:07 AM
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I have specifically heard Sully say that Godmsack has never claimed to be metal. So your argument is quite stupid.
I saw this tour on the last show of the tour and Godsmack owned Crue. Most of you people haven't even seen nor would give Godsmack the chance to perfom live for you. They are a good live band, end of story. I don't care if you love them or hate them they give you all they have live. Hell pretty sure Vince was using backing vocal tapes that night. He was winded into the first song.
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COMMENT | @Malio
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:59:07 AM
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no he isn't wearing a polo
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COMMENT | Second Time
posted by :
9/10/2009 9:18:03 AM
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on this bill Godsmack crushed the Crue who looked and sounded old, i bet about 1/4 of the people left after 1 or 2 Crue songs, same at Meyhem Fest, Slayer then Manson, what were they thinking, 1/2 left after Slayer at that show in VA.
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COMMENT | crap
posted by :
9/10/2009 9:24:38 AM
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Does this guy have any clue what his talking about? Only reason you re there is because you re punchbags, and actually make the old fat grimy money hungry fucks that motley crue are, look good on stage after you ve played (and sung). You re THAT bad. Go home. PISS OFF, we want to hear some young bands who can actually play and sing.
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COMMENT | bmcblkknight
posted by : blackiefan
9/10/2009 9:24:39 AM
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Are you watching the same video as most of us are here? Read pennandtell's comments above as that would be a DITTO from me.
UNBELIEVABLE that this band has fans. That's what money from a label can do for you!
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COMMENT | machinedead
posted by :
9/10/2009 9:26:05 AM
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thanks for your big list of cliche commentary. This is metal, this aint metal...Terrible pitch? ever heard Vince sing?...none of the bands on this bill are metal bands...take that shit back to the playground where it came from. Pennandtell i'd go with Cutandpaste next time
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COMMENT | mummyman
posted by : Ballbusterfuk
9/10/2009 9:38:40 AM
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THAT has to be the funniest and most uneducated comment this far.
Have you heard of a record called SHOUT AT THE DEVIL? TOO FAST FOR LOVE?? You need to go back to your history books and read about what metal is. Motley Crue put out some of the most classic metal records.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 9:52:19 AM
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Well it is called Crue Fest, not Godsmack Fest.
I am glad that stuff goes on instead of all this new age emo let's all get along crap.
I am no big fan of Motley, but at least they were original when they came out, and had some stand-out talent (Tommy Lee back in the day).
Your band even ripped off its name from an AIC song, and your songs all sound the same.
And you are a manlet.
That is all.
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COMMENT | GODSMACK IS A JOKE!!!
posted by : SOLA
9/10/2009 10:13:16 AM
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ALICE IN CHAINS WANNABEES MINUS THE TALENT AND ORIGINALITY. GODSMACK IS TERRIBLE.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 10:26:32 AM
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WOW, that's a lot of hate on one page. But whatever, I was listening to Godsmack back in 1996 when they were still a local band, they write catchy songs, they have good energy on stage, and I'm not ashamed to admit it
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COMMENT | metfuel seems to think he is the all knowing but....
posted by : dirtyred976
9/10/2009 10:31:23 AM
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I have heard that dip shit Erna in the past claiming that Godsmack is a metal band, so your wrong there. I have also had the displeasure to see them live back in 99' with Fear Factory on tour for Obsolete. Those sorry fucking bastards played longer than they were supposed to due to the stupidness of the singer thinking we wanted to hear more of Godsmack's half ass bullshit radio wannabe metal....Fear Factory had their set cut short. This was when Dino was in the band originally and the 6 song set they played made Godsmack look like shit..not that it would be hard. So, you suck sir! Godsmack sux! Sully Erna realllly sux! May this band break up and not create more bullshit! Plus Motely Crue would be more metal than Godsmack any day and anywhere just due to not being fake ass bitches. So hah!
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COMMENT | Oh Please!!!
posted by :
9/10/2009 10:40:53 AM
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Godsmack should feel lucky to play in venues that have seats again. But, this is what happens when the 80s mentality and the 90s mentality clash
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COMMENT | Don't worry people
posted by : thomas cargo
9/10/2009 10:54:38 AM
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The new Slayer record will be out soon!! Bye bye God smack hello true metal!!!!!
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COMMENT | no talent?
posted by :
9/10/2009 11:10:59 AM
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GODSMACK no talent? I understand someone not liking their music, that's fine. But to say they have no talent...you've obviously never seen them live.
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COMMENT |
posted by : artjunkie
9/10/2009 11:29:11 AM
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Ah, Blabbermouth…the TMZ.com of metal. You gotta love how they just can’t help themselves to try to sensationalize everything comment or criticism with “so and so SLAMS so and so”. They always make these comments seem more aggressive and inflammatory than they usually are. It’s media propaganda, not only are they trying to generate clicks, they’re also trying to sway your opinion to an automatic contentious one.
I could give 3 shits less about Godsmack, but seeing the constant media manipulation gets old when all you want is straight, unbiased reporting. Not to mention actual clear cut NEWS. But shit headlines like “Kerry King says what everyone already knows, that Dave Mustaine is a douche” will continued to get milked for what it’s worth.
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COMMENT | Motley Crue
posted by : RiotAct666
9/10/2009 11:30:22 AM
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Blew Godsmack off the stage when i saw Cruefest2.
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COMMENT | Atlanta
posted by :
9/10/2009 11:30:43 AM
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I saw Cruefest 2 in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago. Let me start by saying, I like a lot of Godsmack and they've always been entertaining live. That said, they were boring as hell at this show. It sounded like they played the same damn song for an hour and a half. Crue on the other hand, handed them their ass. I know Vince doesn't always sound the greatest, but he was on in Atlanta. I was in front and he wasn't using tapes. His voice sounded strong and the Crue just kicked ass. Old and fat? Maybe, but who doesn't get that way? He should be embarassed that he had his ass kicked by Drowning Pool, let alone Motley Crue.
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COMMENT | Cruefest - Boston
posted by : Gallogs
9/10/2009 11:40:23 AM
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I saw a Cruefest show this summer unlike most of you idiots! Godsmack kicked ass! Their show however was not the usual bombastic 'Smak show. They were obviously controlled by the Crue. Crue came on and didn't have one bomb throught the whole Feeelgood set. Ridiculous!! Vince was at his worst, not just missing lyrics ( to be expected) but screwing them up completely. Also, Nukki did not seem to be into it at all. Strange because I saw them their last two tours and he was an animal, fullout rockstar in every sense of the word. The last Cruefest I thought they kicked ass and that they were back. After this past show I know I will NOT spend another $100 to see them. Not a chance. Godsmack is a great HARD ROCK band, not metal, and they admit this. No shame in that. Yes most of the band has short hair and don't dress in stage costumes, but they still rock. For all of those whop say their music all sounds the same, listen to AC/DC, Rush, most of Maiden, I could go on and on. Give me a break, that is just a cop out. It sounds to me like Motley acted like jerks on tour and Sully has let the world know it.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 11:44:12 AM
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In all honesty I think all of these bands suck
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 12:03:25 PM
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I'm amused by the sheer lack of comprehension exemplified by the majority of comments on this thread.
While Sully may not have a clear grasp on forming a grammatically perfect sentence; it's obvious that he's complaining about Motley Crue not allowing Godsmack to perform a show with their usual amount of pyro, effects, sound, etc.
This does contrast Metallica, for example, who allow their openers to do practically anything they want within the constraints of their allotted time.
That said, Godsmack should have known a band like Motley would pull things like that, because they're not exactly innovative, or talented enough to let their music do the talking.
Hopefully this will serve as a reminder to Godsmack not to rest on their laurels, because their quality has been diminished for some time now.
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COMMENT | machinedead
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
9/10/2009 12:21:28 PM
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And Hetfield desperately wants to be Danzig!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | I assumed the 'Rock Star Garbage'
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
9/10/2009 12:25:08 PM
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were the ugly,overweight, toothless, got fired from being a stripper 20 years ago, has 15 kids and 16 diseases, women Tommy brought backstage!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Godsmack
posted by : laurjohn2
9/10/2009 12:34:50 PM
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Blew Crue of the stage at my show. No competition. godsmack just played and kicked ass
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 1:40:06 PM
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What a shitty line up of bands! I mean Motley Crue is the only reason I could see anyone going to this. Late 90's/early 2000's bands were terrible then. Who wants to see them in 2009?
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COMMENT | wow
posted by :
9/10/2009 2:00:31 PM
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It's interesting that, it was probally said to Godsmack what was alllowed and how it would be runned and what they were getting paid and all that horseshit before the tour even started and when all the contracts were sign and they did press you didn't hear one bad thing coming out of Sully's mouth. Dude, shut up, you got to go on tour with Motley Crue, I mean you could have said NO right. You could have wallowed in your world even longer without a tour or you could have went on a club tour wich is what most bands have to do. Damn I would give my left nut to play with any major artist, He's just coming off ass..........crying. Jesus also, noone goes to see Motley because of Vince's singing, they go for all the Rockstar Garbage that they bring. Long live Motley Crue and shit long live Godsmack(just quit your crying and read your contracts before you do another tour)
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COMMENT | GODSMACK ARE POSERS
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 2:10:02 PM
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First off, if Sully slammed MÖTLEY CRÜE "for bringing 'rock-star garbage' to 'Crüe Fest 2," perhaps he should realize that is GODSMACK that is the "rock-start garbage" that Motley Crue brought to CrueFest 2.
Now, to all of you "Godsmack fans" who say "oh, well obviously you've never seen them live,"
I'll begin by saying that I have unfortunately seen these clowns many times with other bands. I'm also from Boston. But the fact is that EVERY SINGLE THING that Sully does is a DIRECT rip-off of Alice in Chains. Allow me to educate you:
(1) (Obviously) the name "Godsmack" came from AIC's "Dirt," as it is the title to a track from that album. Their sun logo is also a rip-off of AIC's sun logo from "Dirt." HOWEVER, Sully denies both of these things (I have seen it with my own 2 eyes) and if he at least admitted it I could respect it.
(2) Godsmack started off around here as AN ALICE IN CHAINS COVERBAND!
(3) AIC released "Facelift" with a bizarre-looking head on the front and a picture of the band on the back of the album pressing through plastic. Godsmack released "FaceLESS" (kinda rhymes, huh?!?) with a bizarre-looking head on the cover... PRESSING THROUGH PLASTIC!!!
(4) AIC released "Jar of Flies," a 7-track (mainly) acoustic EP. Godsmack released "The Other Side," a ... 7-track (mainly) acoustic EP. WEIRD! Also, "Jar of Flies" has a song titled "I Stay Away." "The Other Side" has a song titled "Keep Away."
(5) Every single lyric that Sully writes can be directly found in a similar version from an AIC song. Examples:
-"I need serenity." (Godsmack) Hmmm, AIC's "Angry Chair" says "serenity is far away."
-"Keep away from me." (Godsmack) Again, AIC has a song where the chorus is "I stay away."
-"Fell in a river of illusion" (Godsmack) Hmmm... this one doesn't actually fall under an AIC song... BUT is a "river of illusion" anything like a "river of deceit"? And isn't "River of Deceit" a song by Mad Season? And wasn't the singer of Mad Season... Layne Staley, who is ALSO THE SINGER FOR AIC?!?
I could literally do this all day. And we won't even get into the fact that "Timebomb"'s bass intro is a blatant rip-off of Filter's "Hey Man, Nice Shot" and AFTER the intro ends it changes sound to exactly like NIN's "Last." In closing, Godsmack are the biggest bunch of phoney posers to exist and I embarassed that they are from my state and city.
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posted by : apicha
9/10/2009 2:25:11 PM
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Be grateful man, you are getting a big fat pay check and also are being put back in the map and you are slamming the band that took you on tour.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 2:53:01 PM
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MÖTLEY CRÜE sucks they haven't been good since
"SHOUT AT THE DEVIL" came out. Alice in Chains is the greatest band to ever take a stage for one and there are many bands that have ripped off of have siilar lyrics just for the fact that AIC were a huge influance on many bands. The name has been said by the bass player of Godsmack that they stole it from AIC so that kills that for you and the "RIP OFF" lyrics could be found with hundreds of bands through out rock and metal and most of the shit you came up with was retarded.
LIKE:
"keep away from me being stolen from "I Stay Away" (different subject matter entirely.
" i need serenity" same as "Angry Chair" bull fuckin shit
And the Mad Season comparison come the fuck on.
GODSMACK RULES AND SO DOES ALICE IN CHAINS
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COMMENT | @ stabalice13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 3:08:31 PM
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Sorry but you'r wrong. I'm not making this stuff up. And trust me, I'd let all the similar lyrics (which there are TONS more of) slide if not for all the other TRUE things, like the fact that (a) their name IS an Alice in Chains song and (b) they were an AIC coverband at first.
Hold up AIC's "Facelift" and Godsmack's "Faceless" side-by-side and tell me that it isn't a blatant rip-off. And then tell me that it isn't just purely coincidence that Godsmack made a 7-track acoustic EP just like AIC did many years before with "Jar of Flies." I'm sorry to break it to you but you're wrong. Godsmack just plain sucks.
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COMMENT | @ stabalice13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 3:11:42 PM
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Also, in regards to them denying their name, I saw a video interview on TV years ago where Sully made up some stupid story where he made a herpes joke about a band member and then the next day Sully came in with a cut that looked like a cold sore so he said "hey, looks like I've been smacked by God-- hey, let's call ourselves 'Godsmack!'" Google the story, you'll find it. So don't go acting as though I'm making this stuff up when I have actual facts to back what I'm saying.
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COMMENT | @ stabalice13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 3:18:43 PM
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Here are a few links to Sully's phoney story as to why the band was named "Godsmack."
http://www.amiright.com/names/origins/g.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godsmack
from wikipedia:
The band's name, according to Merrill in the Smack This! DVD, was taken from the Alice in Chains' song "God Smack". However, Erna stated in a 1999 interview that "I was making fun of somebody who had a cold sore on his lip and the next day I had one myself and somebody said, 'It's a godsmack.' The name stuck. We were aware of the Alice in Chains song but didn't really think much about it. It's a cool song and the name had meaning for us".
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COMMENT | @ stabalice 13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 3:23:06 PM
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Oh, and right from wikipedia-- even though I already knew this because I'm from here and I've seen these clowns at bars and clubs around here for years before they got (in)famous:
"Godsmack started out doing covers of bands like Alice in Chains to build their fan-base."
Now don't you think that it's just a little coincidental that a band who was officially an AIC coverband just-so happens to have tons of lyrics that can be found similarly in AIC lyrics? And even if the lyrics are coincidence, you still can't explain the 2 albums.
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COMMENT | No one has the balls to say it....
posted by : NoTolerance
9/10/2009 4:01:16 PM
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So I will. Motley Crue fucking sucks donkey ball sacks! Godsmack is better and I don't even like them. Vince Neil fucking sucks live and he NEVER could actually sing. Their egos are overinflated because of the millions of people with no musical taste have supported them all those years.
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COMMENT | Said it before, I'll say it again....
posted by : NoTolerance
9/10/2009 4:09:15 PM
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Wikipedia is NOT a REAL source of information. Idiots. Just because it says "PEDIA" at the end doesn't mean it's a trustworthy source of information. Anyone can go in there and type shit in. If you quote anything from Wiki, you're a complete fucking retard. I can go write Mhead81 is the president of USA on Wiki but it don't make you the fucking pres. Iif you want to go on quoting "the Inquirer" of the internet, go right ahead. You're just gonna look like a dildo.
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COMMENT | There ya go, mhead81...
posted by : NoTolerance
9/10/2009 4:11:52 PM
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Godsmack OFFICIAL wiki says you're the pres of the USA but, you still aren't.
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COMMENT | @ NoTolenance
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 4:17:29 PM
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Motley Crue aren't the best musicians in the world. This is true. But the thing about Motley Crue is their "F' the world" attitude and the party-like atmosphere at their shows. They just want to put on a show and party. And their show is important to knowing them and what they are all about because their stage shows are just as important as the music.
So I'll give you that they don't write the best music. I like it but I can definitely see why others wouldn't. But the fact is that they don't belong in the category of bands who have been supported by "the millions of people with no musical taste" because that just isn't true since their music isn't the only important aspect about them. The bands who fall under the category that you suggested are bands like Chevelle, Drowning Pool and all of these other phoney bands who just popped up out of nowhere because they were created by the record labels and are just posterboys for what the record labels consider to be "metal."
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COMMENT | @ NoTolerance
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 4:21:20 PM
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Sorry but that is irrelevant on your part in regards to the wikipedia reference. I already posted that I saw this interview WITH MY OWN TWO EYES where Sully said this and that I saw Godsmack as an AIC coverband WITH MY OWN TWO EYES. I only referenced wikipedia as somewhere to see it. And there are plenty of other sites that have this information, too. Look around the internet. The fact is that this isn't a debate and I don't care if you believe me-- I know what I saw.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : Raiders757
9/10/2009 4:31:39 PM
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Godsmack's drummer should reform Wrathchild America!!! Now that would kick some ass.
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COMMENT | Sully needs to keep his
posted by : bubba
9/10/2009 6:35:12 PM
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vague insults to himself--how unprofessional?! too soon! was still thinking about how great the show the other week was.
And this--so true: "3) the drummer is the ONLY member breaking a sweat and the only one with real talent"
It was like watching a show on the drum kit, w/ 3 other guys standing around..
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COMMENT | @ MHead81
posted by :
9/10/2009 7:31:00 PM
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I never denied the cover art part but you could sayt he same thing about the "Can't Breathe" album by Boiler Room from 2000 which was 3 years before Godsmack's "Faceless" and before you can say anything I know that Boiler Room sucks. So did Godsmack rip off AIC or Boiler Room cause in a side by side comparison of all 3 Faceless looks much more like Ca't Breathe than it does Facelift. Also I know Sully denied the name thing and who the fuck cares if they did bands do it all the time. Just cause you're from Boston doesn't mean you know shit about Godsmack. I'm from Chicago does that mean I know everything about bands from there.
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COMMENT | @ stabalice13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 8:00:46 PM
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Nice ignorant comments. I was having a civil discussion with you and you have to throw around insults. And YES, by being from here I do know more about them because I have many friends who have bands who Godsmack OPENED FOR before they were big. Trust me-- I WISH I knew nothing about these clowns. I am embarassed that they go around the country saying that they are from here. So for the record, very mature of you to go name-calling instead of having a civil back-and-forth discussion. You will notice that nothing I said to you was derrogatory or insulting in my previous posts.
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COMMENT |
posted by : kingnothing23
9/10/2009 8:16:07 PM
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Ungrateful bastard
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COMMENT | @ MHead81
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:22:48 PM
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I don't see anything derrogatory or insulting in what I said i'm just going round for round with you since you seem to know all this stuff. Just because you know people in bands that have played with Godsmack before doesn't mean you know everything to know about them and I never said you were wrong everyone is allowed an opinion I was just saying that if I wanted to take the time I too could find similar things with other bands.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:38:29 PM
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All I have to say is GODSMACK RULES, CRUE SUCKS and ALICE IN CHAINS IS THE GREATEST BAND EVER. It's a given that bands will be influanced by them or rip off of them. Just like Zeppelin, The Doors, Floyd, Nirvana, Metallica, Pantera, NIN and Tool.
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COMMENT | ....
posted by : syko kyd
9/10/2009 8:39:05 PM
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Its funny this guy talks about "rock star garbage" meanwhile he did the same shit to CKY when they played shows with Godsmack a few years ago. He (as in Sully) treated them like shit the whole time, never talked to any of them, and made ridiculous demands (ie. he wanted his own private dressing room, as well as other things.)
Sully, your band made one great album (the first self titled one) and you guys kind of lost me after that, so stop crying and just be greatful the Crue took you and ur shitty band out on tour this summer.
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COMMENT | @ stabalice13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 8:50:06 PM
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True, you could find similarities. But there is a difference between being similar and ripping something off. We can at least agree on one thing-- AIC is great. They & Metallica are my all-time favorites.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:50:11 PM
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To all that are bitching about Godsmack calling themselves METAL. Get over it, I'm not saying they are or are not METAL (but they areawsome) cause now a days who can really say who/what METAL is, I mean Poison, Crue, White Snake and all those other HAIR bands are called METAL but Pantera, Metallica, Slayer, Judas Priest, Dry Kill Logic and Mudvayne are called METAL and all of them sound different and now every new "METAL" band sounds the fucking same like Job For A Cowboy and See You Next Tuesday and White Chapel it just sounds like the same shitty band putting out the same shitty album over and over agian. I like METAL and HARD ROCK and ALT. ROCK. MUSIC IS FUCKING MUSIC. YOU EITHERLIKE WHAT YOU HEAR OR DON'T. I cant believe I even got so into this bitch fest I'M DONE.
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COMMENT | @ MHead81
posted by :
9/10/2009 8:53:14 PM
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I agree on that, my apologies for getting so "worked up" about all this shit, I still don't believe they are rip offs but to each their own.
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COMMENT | @stabalice13
posted by : MHead81
9/10/2009 10:40:23 PM
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Fair enough. And I'm with you that the whole "metal" argument is foolish because metal is a very broad catergory to classify. On the other side of that argument, it annoys the hell out of me when people consider bands like Blink 182 and Fallout Boy (who I HATE) to be punk when they are not, they are "pop punk," or as I like to call it, garbage.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Marc.
9/11/2009 2:29:53 AM
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Hey Sully you moron weren't you the one saying back in high school you wanted to be just like The Crue? Well you've become more of a Dave Mustaine bitching about every band and every musician and blaming them for your troubles instead of you.
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COMMENT | dirtyred976
posted by :
9/11/2009 4:18:34 AM
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I tried to bite my tongue on this but i cant, your the fucking douche. I wont deny that motley are great, but come on seriously what planet are you living on? Its weird how you think godsmack is so talentless, and to qoute you "Your band sucks,your lyrics suck,and your whole career have done nothing but be an annoyance to the metal community". If this is the case then why the fuck after this many years are they still going strong and kicking ass with every song. maybe you didnt go to crue fest, but from the show i saw it shouldnt take a rocket scientist to see who stole that show, sure motley had all the pyro set changes wardrobe changes and godsmack had a stripped down set that had the entire arena by the balls the whole time. It was pretty obvious just by looking at the audience who ruled that night. Im willing to bet your a fat ass that missed the bus out of the eighties. Its pretty clear that you cant see talented musicians right in front of your face.
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COMMENT | @ annieb
posted by : MHead81
9/11/2009 11:37:22 AM
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Sorry annieb, you might like them, but they AREN'T "talented musicians." They are just a generic bunch who have zero originality and aren't anything special as far as playing their instruments goes. Ok, fine, you like them. That is fair and it's your right to do so. But they aren't "talented musicians."
And as for why they have continued success-- 2 reasons:
(1) The majority of Godsmack fans are meathead tough-guys who think that Godsmack are heavy and are this era's version of Metallica, but really they know nothing about the fact that Godsmack are just posers.
(2) The majority of the world doesn't know what good music is. Perfect example: turn on your local hip-hop station. It's all garbage. And I do like REAL rap so it's not like I'm hating on rap. The fact is that most people are just casual music fans and do not get obsessed. They don't care about a band's history, who they are ripping off, how awesome their guitar playing is or where their songs came from. So they spend zero time researching their favorite bands and enjoy them for what they are. And of course the record companies have the local rock stations jam these bands down the general public's throats so they know nothing better.
The fact is that many legitimately good bands don't get radio play because the general public doesn't care how well you can play guitar, how original your sound is or how deep your music and lyrics are. They just want to hear something that is catchy, sticks in their head and has a chorus that they can yell.
Perfect example: Fu Manchu. This band is F'ing amazing. And yet I have NEVER heard them on the radio and they will never see the success that they truly deserve-- and they don't care, either-- they just love doing what they do. They are ARTISTS. Godsmack are just a bunch of posers who put on their rock costumes, bring nothing new to the genre and get up on stage to play rock star by coping what they have seen those before them do. They aren't artists. They are just musics version of a photocopier.
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COMMENT | @ Darkstar9
posted by : MHead81
9/11/2009 2:26:05 PM
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You're exactly right that the next Cruefest SHOULD feature other '80s acts... but that won't happen. Nikki Sixx is doing these tours with themselves and newer, relevant (and awful) bands for 2 reasons:
(1) To try to attract some of the newer bands' audiences.
(2) To cash in on the success of some of the newer bands.
This isn't me just guessing, either. I read it somewhere (well, #1 anyway-- I suppose #2 is guessing but if I know them like I think I do, it's true).
Basically, the tour that you are suggesting does come around every summer in some form, but they hardly sell out. There's always some combintion of '80s metal bands touring year after year and they always end up giving tickets away somehow when tickets don't sell. I remember a few years in my area if you kept your Ozzfest ticket stub you could get into the annual '80s show for free. Unfortunately, there isn't a large enough market for these tours. So you can't really fault Motley Crue for making a wise business decision cause the fact is that Sully can whine all he wants-- Motley Crue used them to get a big payday all summer.
The fact is that Godsmack-- as much as I hate them-- could have sold just as many tickets touring on their own with the rest of the bill and without Motley Crue. Granted, they wouldn't have got my money, but they would have got someone else's for the PIT area passes that we had. So it all boils down to the fact that Motley Crue used Sully and he is either too stupid to know it and that is why he is upset, OR he is offended and embarassed because he does, in fact, realize exactly what happened.
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COMMENT | @ smackthis_88
posted by : MHead81
9/11/2009 7:42:52 PM
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Obviously it is YOU who is the idiot. I am not the one saying that Godsmack is or isn't metal, so therefore you are yelling at the wrong person. I, personally, don't care if they-- or anyone else for that matter-- consider themselves to be metal, rock or whatever else they want to be called. The genre that a band is categorized under has nothing to do with what they play or how they sound. So you may want to re-read this entire page and redirect your comments at the right poster.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/11/2009 7:45:53 PM
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fuck yeah, this is the 2nd time I have had respect for godsmack! HAHAHA, we will make you look old and fat and earn a fat check, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I hate to say it, but I believe him. I saw these guys play before CFH at the 2000 ozzfest and just let me say, they almost had the crowd going more than the cowboys. Never seen so much sod thrown in my life.
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COMMENT | AnnieB..
posted by : dirtyred976
9/12/2009 2:19:09 AM
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This band is a joke. All of their songs are rip off's of one another and not to mention they're a rip off band anyways. I see talented musicians in my face and neither Godsmack nor Motley Crue are in any of those bands. Try listening to talent like Spawn of Possession or Decrepit Birth...then you will see talent. For your info my ass is not fat. You are probably some half ass cock rock loving stretch mark having over weight douche bag. Go listen to some real bands that dont need the radio or the idiots of the trend to gain fame. Also..thanks to MHead81..you did me and and thew rest of us intelligent people some justice. AnnieB you are a tard.
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COMMENT | @ dirtyred976
posted by : MHead81
9/12/2009 6:40:57 AM
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Glad I could help and glad to see that there are others who have enough musical knowledge to know that virtually everything Godsmack does is a rip-off of something that someone did before them.
And I don't hate Godsmack fans, just to be clear. It's my belief that it's only due to lack of knowledge that people like them and if they did actually know everything, they would be embarrassed to call themselves fans and disgusted by how blatantly Godsmack steals ideas from other bands.
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COMMENT | @MHead81
posted by :
9/12/2009 7:18:58 PM
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Yeah that's my bad man, I apologize for that. As far as you calling them talentless though, I'm still unclear. I won't disagree with you when you say that they were a cover band for AIC because I really don't have any knowledge on that. But, Godsmack doesn't sound anything like AIC. So, how can you call them rip offs of AIC when they don't sound anything like AIC?? I agree with you about Godsmack taking the name and maybe some lyrics but, Godsmack must be doing something right because they sell out arena's and other venues across the U.S. all the time and it isn't because of AIC or any other band. Oh, and did I mention a shit load of record sales? Just because Godsmack might have a lot of things "in common" with AIC doesn't make them posers. I do agree that the things you posted do paint a weird picture so I'm not totally disagreeing with you but I just don't see how you can say they don't have talent. Oh and for the record, Sully in his book "The Paths We Choose" he talks about a lot of details about his life and he doesn't obsess about AIC at all! I'm not even sure if he even mentioned them in the book.
For the people that are talking shit on Sully for bitching, get real he has a point! Music is not about competition and should never have to come down to who can beat who. You bring your show and we'll bring ours.
For the people that think Godsmack should be thankful of the Crue for taking them out on tour? hahahahahahahahahaha Godsmack doesn't have to tour with anyone if they didn't want to trust me, the only reason why they took it is to show that they were still a band and also because they thought it would be an awesome experience with the crue.
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COMMENT | While it may not have been the most eloquent interview...
posted by :
9/12/2009 10:31:44 PM
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The low level of reading comprehension among you people is appalling. Go back to school.
What Sully was saying is, Crue wouldn't let them go out on stage with all the shit they normally would. Be that pyro, lighting, sound, etc. So if they came off as boring and shitty it's probably due to the constraints that motley crue put on them, not wanting to be upstaged.
And while Godsmack may not have the greatest discography of all time, they usually put on spectacular performances, due largely to Sully's anal retentiveness for putting on a good show. Which would also help explain why he's bitching now.
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COMMENT | @ sgthavoc32
posted by : MHead81
9/13/2009 9:03:39 AM
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Dude, you just show your ignorance. This is a FACT that Godsmack was an AIC coverband. I have seen it with my own 2 eyes. I'm willing to bet that you weren't old enough to go to bars when Godsmack was playing the local bars as an AIC coverband, and I'm also willing to bet that you aren't from the Boston area and therefore were not around to see these performances.
Although wikipedia cannot be used as a credibile source, here is a link to their wikipedia page, where this quote was found:
"Godsmack started out doing covers of bands like Alice in Chains to build their fan-base."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godsmack
Now if you want to like them, then fine. It's your right. But don't come on here telling me that I'm wrong when I was there and you are just running your mouth without any proof to back your statements.
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COMMENT | @ smackthis_88
posted by : MHead81
9/13/2009 9:22:40 AM
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Apology accepted.
Also, I just want to make it clear that I am not arguing with you, I am just presenting points. As for the fact that Sully didn't reference AIC in his biography-- if I was him I wouldn't have either. The reason being is that the more attention he draws to AIC from his fans, the more likely they are to see all of the similarities.
The fact is that if you are a die-hard AIC fan like myself, you can definitely see the similarities. Pick up AIC's self-titled album (if you don't already have it) and listen to it start-to-finish many times. You'll start to see where Godsmack takes their sound from. That album, to me, is the closest to Godsmack's guitar sound and heavy, deep riffs with the slight hint of an industrial sound. Specifically listen to "Sludge Factory," "Brush Away," "Again" and "Head Creeps." You'll also notice that this is the album where Layne used audio equipment a lot to really distort his voice and give it a digital effect. Sully often does this. Granted, Godsmack doesn't sound like every AIC song. And I'm not saying this to say "I know more than you." I am a die-hard AIC fan who has seen them 6 times and who has listened to them religiously since "Facelift" so I know their albums inside and out so I can instantly pick up any similarities.
And like I said, there are many bands who a case could be made for to say that they sound like another band, and that is fair because of the fact that there are only so many chords that you can play that sound heavy. But it far more than a coincidence that they have similar lyrics when you take into account all the other similarities that there is no disputing (their name, their sun logo, their history as an AIC coverband, their acoustic EP, their "Faceless" album title and album art).
Anyway, like I have said before, it's your right to like them and I am not angry at their fans, so don't take this as an attack on you. You had nothing to do with what Sully did/does. He should be embarassed that he did all of this so blatantly. There is a difference between taking from your influences and ripping them off.
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COMMENT | Haha
posted by : tlee69692
9/13/2009 11:01:57 PM
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This sully guy is a fucking joke just like his music. He should be on the ground worshiping Motley Crue for letting his shitty band share the stage with them. hahahahauhhh it cracks me up though this little godsmack fucker thinks he can compete with Motley Crue.
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COMMENT | P.S.
posted by : tlee69692
9/13/2009 11:05:24 PM
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To clear up the whole name thing, The reason they call there selves Godsmack is because there music is so shitty its like smacking God across the face.
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COMMENT | FIRST OF ALL.....SULLY
posted by :
9/13/2009 11:05:25 PM
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Sully needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP. Now with that said, I saw CRUEFEST 8/29 here in ATLANTA and while GODSMACK kicked butt when they played....NOTHING could compare to the MAGIC in the air when THE CRUE TOOK THE STAGE. BAM! they nailed it and ROCK ROYALTY was in Atlanta FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE March 2006! The CROWD WAS ON THE FEET AND THEY KICKED ASS..Now although there were YOUNGER attendees there than us OLDER CRUEHEADS....we appreciated all the other bands until the LEGENDARY CRUE took the stage. I think GODSMACK PLAYED TOO LONG...I could not wait for Motley to grab the stage.
Mr. SULLY needs to bow down to MOTLEY CRUE because if it were NOT for the CRUE and many others proceeding Godsmack and countless others...Sully would be working at Taco Bell or Wendy's I guess...who knows...Have some respect DUDE. How dare you trash MOTLEY CRUE. They ROCK ICONS and you should thank your lucky stars you were ASKED to be onthis tour. What is the matter with you....You better hope that Nikii and Tommy don't come and kick your ass....AND NONE of them ARE OLD AND FAT dude. Vince Neil has EARNED THE RIGHT TO ACT THE WAY HE DOES....Back in the day he was one of the BEST frontman in the biz with the exception opf David Lee Roth. So quit your whining...Sully...I plan never to see Godsmack again for trashing my boys. SHUT THE FUCK UP DUDE.
Christy Crue in Atlanta PROUD TO BE A CRUEHEAD
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COMMENT | Universal Republic Rockers Godsmack Lock Down Another #1 Single with'Whiskey Hangover'
posted by :
9/14/2009 9:05:21 PM
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Lively Boston Rockers Set Record With Their 17th Top 10 Hit At Active Rock
Format
Wind Up Acclaimed Tour With Motley Crue
NEW YORK--(Business Wire)--
Universal Republic band Godsmack capped their acclaimed tour with Motley Crue -
Crue Fest 2 - in style this past week, scoring their 5th 1 Single at Active
Rock, notching the coveted top spot at Active Rock and the Mediabase format with
their first single in nearly three years, "Whiskey Hangover." The song was
released sans-album, a special gift to fans in celebration of the band`s
acclaimed live slot on this one of this summer`s hottest rock tours. The tour
finally wound down on September 5th in Darien Lake, NY, with critics like
411Mania.com hailing both the tour and "Whiskey Hangover" as vintage Godsmack:
"`Hangover` is a welcome return to the band`s well-established sound. Powerful…"
The new song arrived in mid-June as the first 'sanctioned' Godsmack offering
since their widely acclaimed Greatest Hits package, Good Times Bad Times….Ten
Years of Godsmack was delivered to fans at the end of 2007. "Whiskey Hangover"
reigns as a record-breaking 17th Top 10 single for the Boston band, extending
Godsmack`s ownership of the most Top 10 hits in active rock history. The band
also has parked a rarified 14 songs in the Top Five more than seminal superstars
such as Linkin Park and Metallica.
Known for their own relentless touring regimen, Godsmack has also established
one of the most formidable live repertoires in rock, having been among the most
in-demand live acts of recent years, including acclaimed appearances at past
Ozzfests, sold out tours with other mega-headliners such as Metallica, and the
star attractions of multiple sold-out arena jaunts throughout the world.
Considered one of the definitive alternative hard rock bands of the modern era,
2008 marked the tenth anniversary of Godsmack`s self-titled debut album. For
more than a decade, the uncompromising band, fronted by the charismatic Sully
Erna, have enjoyed an incredible run, selling nearly 14 million albums -
highlighted by scores of sold-out international concerts, stages shared with
legends, a remarkable 17 hit singles, 4 platinum records, 1 gold EP and three
Grammy nominations. One of the few rock bands to have scored double-digits in
the radio single format, their most recent studio album, 2006's Godsmack IV,
became another platinum-plus trailblazer for the formidable foursome, debuting
at #1 on the Billboard Top albums chart (their 2nd #1 debut following 2003`s
Faceless) and harking back to the thunderous arc of multiplatinum masterpieces
like their 5 million selling breakthrough debut album and 2000`s Awake.
Godmack`s releases include Godsmack (1998), Awake (2000), Faceless (2003), The
Scorpion King soundtrack (2002), Otherside EP (2004), Godsmack IV (2006), and
Good Times Bad Times...Ten Years Of Godsmack (2007). The digital domain is abuzz
with rumors that the band is headed back into the studio at the end of this year
to begin recording a new studio album.
For More Information:
Universal Republic Records
Jay Wilson, 212-373-0684
Jay.wilson@umusic.com
Copyright Business Wire 2009
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COMMENT | @MHead81
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9/14/2009 9:11:12 PM
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I respect what you said and I also think we both have our own opinons. I do love AIC by the way and I want you to know I wasn't trying to argue with you either. The only thing I can say now is thanks for supporting rock music.
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COMMENT | GODSMACK vs. Motley Crue Fest 2
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11/14/2009 12:16:04 PM
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I was at Crue Fest 2, I agree with Sully music is supposed to entertainment. Like Russell Crowe's character in Gladiator "were you entertained?" With Godsmack yes, Motley Crue No. Some of you can say fuck you, you don't know what you talking about. Bullshit! I am a die-hard Motley fan and I love and support Motley but the fact is if you compared the two bands the night at Cynthia Woods in Houston, Texas Crue Fest 2, Godsmack wiped their asses with Motley Crue. It's ashamed but I tend to believe Sully and their was probably some ego trip going on. Regardless I've been to at least a dozen Motley shows since the 80's and loved "Carnival of Sins" the guys were hungry and truely appreciative of the audience but the fact is Vince sounded like shit and is getting lazy. And no I wasn't the only one that night of the same opinion.
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