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GENE SIMMONS On Previous Bandmembers: 'When You Defile KISS, You Should Be Thrown Out'
- Sep. 24, 2009
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Adam Graham of Detroit News recently conducted an interview with KISS bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons. A few excerpts from the chat follow below. On the band's current lineup vs. the original lineup: "(People say) family is the most important thing. Actually, no, it's not. Love, respect and discipline is the most important thing; and if your father is a drunk and abuses the family and makes it dysfunctional, kick (him) out. Blood is thicker than water? No it's not. Self-respect, discipline and honesty is the most important thing. If your mother or father or brother or sister is a drug addict (kind of) loser, toss him out. It's called tough love. "Love yourself and respect yourself enough to have pride in what you do. Love and respect and have pride for the band you're in. When we get up on stage, that's holy ground. This is electric church, and no one on that stage — me or anyone else — wears the makeup and platform heels by some kind of birthright. This ain't Europe; just 'cause your dad was king doesn't make you the king. You've got to earn it. And when you defile KISS, you should be thrown out." On the controversial KISS casket: "They sold out, of course. You can't get another one anywhere. I don't even have one anymore. I sent the last one to the family of (deceased PANTERA guitarist) Dimebag Darrell ( Abbott). The last will and testament of his family is that he be buried in a KISS casket. (I sent) the one I had right here in my museum." On KISS merchandising: "How cool is it to walk in and see KISS Mr. Potato heads, or KISS M&Ms? Come on. We love the STONES and we love U2 and RADIOHEAD, but I don't want to see Thom Yorke's face on an M&M." On KISS' live philosophy: "If you bring your eyes to a concert, we want a visual boom, a visual overload. And you should get that, for (heaven's) sake. You're paying as much for a concert ticket as some down payments on cars. It's nuts." On KISS' tour with AEROSMITH earlier this decade: "When we both decided to go out, (headliners were) going to be flip-flopped every other night, but we immediately stepped up and said, 'Don't worry about ego, we'll go on first every night, not a problem. And we promise you, people will forget you were there.' " On a favorite Detroit memory: "We were backstage getting ready (at Cobo) and we were doing photo sessions, and I was in full makeup, and I had to go to the bathroom before we went out (on stage). And a really pretty girl walked in there, and I said, 'Sorry, miss, you're in the wrong bathroom.' She said, 'No no no, I wanted to give you a present before you get up on stage.' And I'm going, 'I love Detroit.' " On being Gene Simmons: "It's good to be me. People say life is short and all that; still, you can live big, you can live a full life if you get off your (behind) and do something. I believe a lot of people go to their grave and on their headstones it might say, 'I woulda, I coulda, I shoulda.' On my tombstone it's going to say 'Thank you and good night.' I wanna go up in flames. That's KISS." Read more from Detroit News.
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COMMENT |
posted by : fullshred
9/24/2009 9:21:50 AM
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BUT WHERE IS VINNIE VINCENT!
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COMMENT | Dimebag's family recieving that casket was very classy
posted by : Angry Johnny
9/24/2009 9:33:43 AM
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I mean, I don't wanna be buried in something like that, if at all, but c'mon . . . if that's what Darrell wanted, I am glad that he got it.
Nobody should ever die like that. We were all robbed of a fantastic musician in the prime of his life. He had so much music left that we will never get. His family is in my prayers.
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COMMENT |
posted by : sevenout
9/24/2009 9:34:13 AM
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What a dumb ass
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/24/2009 9:41:02 AM
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It's Kiss's Live philosophy. NOT Kiss'. When did the press start losing it with rules of grammar? That one drives me batshit.
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COMMENT | foolish rationizations
posted by : BSlash24
9/24/2009 9:51:11 AM
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this is one of the most ridicules, hypocrital, and typical Gene interviews going. he speaks of past members defiling KiSS, yet in the next breath talks about KiSS M&M's. And the quote of Thom Yorke not being on an M&M....I don't think he, or Jimi Hendrix, or John Lennon wanted to be on an M&M. A real musician would scoff at that. Make your $$ on good music, not the whoring of your band's brand...he makes it sound like other musicians who are really creative, working on their music, are fools....isn't it suppossed to be about Music, and performance FIRST!?....and people buy into his crap.
Ace might have been a F Up, maybe not THE best guitarist, but he was at least about the Rock....and what's wrong with a little Sex & Drugs anyhow, as long as their still Sex & drugs, I can do without the rock n roll. (I'm kidding!...I think).
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COMMENT |
posted by : jeffgq
9/24/2009 9:53:03 AM
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YA, well, if it was the original line-up that they didnt kick out, I would absolutely be interested in seeing them...but this scab line-up?? FUCK THAT SHIT!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/24/2009 9:56:32 AM
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Take your own advice, Simmons.
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COMMENT | No Vinnie
posted by : welovemetal.com
9/24/2009 9:57:08 AM
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I think that is more of a shot that Vinnie isn't going to see the hall of fame
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COMMENT | Best line from this interview...
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
9/24/2009 9:57:10 AM
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"I don't want to see Thom Yorke's face on an M&M."
When I read this interview early this morning, I figured Bmouth would highlight the quote it did. I really wish interviewers would stop asking Gene and Paul to rehash this stuff, but it is what it is. The bottom line is that the band, Ace and (from what I understand) Peter are all happy and doing well.
Sonic Boom and Anomaly = Pure bliss for this longtime fan.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/24/2009 10:11:37 AM
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Gene is a JACKASS
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COMMENT | Honestly
posted by :
9/24/2009 10:13:37 AM
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I think the first paragraph was right on, even though it may not be popular....
There ARE some people who get into Rock n' Roll just for the lifestyle---drugs, booze and women. Most of these people can't keep it under control and they eventually self destruct. They lose all sense of professionalism, lose what skills they have as musicians and can barely function in real life, let alone a stage... I've even been in situations with musicians like this..and quite frankly, nobody wants to be around them, they create a bad vibe and they become the weak link that everyone is always worrying about screwing up or not showing up.... As much as I love some of the previous Kiss line-ups, I can totally see where Gene is coming from.
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COMMENT |
posted by : JRSPON
9/24/2009 10:16:19 AM
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First day SB buyer!!!!!
Will see the Hottest Band in The World on October the 19th!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Demon
posted by : Gondor
9/24/2009 10:19:06 AM
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Gene, you're the worst offender. I'm throwing you out!
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COMMENT | Self-respect, discipline & honesty
posted by : bigbuciach
9/24/2009 10:19:34 AM
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3 things this shit for brains gave up many years ago.
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COMMENT | SHUT UP YOU NO TALENT PIECE OF SHIT !!!!
posted by : bc3ironmaiden
9/24/2009 10:37:04 AM
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so the way i see it is, the only person who should be left in the band would be ... the guitar tech ? maybe ?
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COMMENT | Libertarian Carcass
posted by : Dedraeb Malc
9/24/2009 10:37:29 AM
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It's not Kiss's. When a word ends in s you don't add an extra s after the apostrophe.
If a guy's name is Jones, you say that's Jones' guitar, not Jones's guitar.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/24/2009 10:52:35 AM
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wow .... just, wow ... how can one person be so dumb, you don't see Thom Yorke's face on A&E promoting his family jewels either, why because he's a musician not a Paris Hilton wannabe like Simmons is
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COMMENT |
posted by : juanneman
9/24/2009 10:55:02 AM
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'Sorry, miss, you're in the wrong bathroom.' She said, 'No no no, I wanted to give you a present before you get up on stage.' And I'm going, 'I love Detroit.' "
You are the biggest son of a bitch Gene lol!!!!
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COMMENT | ummmmmm
posted by : Krank
9/24/2009 11:07:14 AM
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Isn't it the same drunk, drug addict losers that buy your tickets Gene and make you as rich as you are? I see you don't kick them out. You call them fans.
Gene you remind me of Mel Brooks in History of the World Part one! When the King was told that his people (fans) were revolting! The Kings (Gene) reply: "I love me people, PULL"
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COMMENT | .....
posted by : ALTXRules
9/24/2009 11:27:04 AM
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8====>
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COMMENT | Dear Gene
posted by :
9/24/2009 11:30:43 AM
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Read your book Sex, Kiss, And Money and I gotta say I agree with a lot of what you said, but you are delusional on some points like what I, being a guy, would do on a "typical"(WTF IS "typical anyway???) day I care about my hair to use the best shampoo and conditioner on it, and I wouldn't shake my dick at my current woman either before OR after the shower I would, however smile at her if she happens to be in the room with me hoping she would get in the shower with me to "shake my willy" on her own, even if she comes in to wash my back I would be happy and grateful for that. Then I would probably go out for a run and go to school at the local "entertainment university" we have here learning the recording arts, or something worthwhile.
And yeah you're right about people with substance abuse problems but the thing is if you solicit the "services" of a hooker like you are suggeting in your book, there's about a 100% chance that she has a substance abuse problem too and has to resort to selling her body to satisfy it, so guess what buddy??? YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM!!!
HELLO!!!
Thank You.
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COMMENT | Hey Mean Gene the Human ATM Machine......
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
9/24/2009 11:59:18 AM
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I do agree with one thing you said.....
"If you bring your eyes to a concert, we want a visual boom, a visual overload."
That's good because if someone brought their ears to a KI$$ concert, they would DEFINITELY be disappointed.
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COMMENT | .
posted by :
9/24/2009 12:00:33 PM
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I want to be buired in a White Lion Coffin
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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666
9/24/2009 12:03:34 PM
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Good interview. Gene is right and spot on as usual.
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COMMENT | ummm..........
posted by :
9/24/2009 12:29:03 PM
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The fact that Kiss is actually on M&M's means only one thing: he won. Plain and simple. Gene and Paul worked their asses off to get where they are. If Wal Mart wants to pay them the big bucks to hawk Kiss merch, then they would be morons to do it. There isn't a signed musician on Earth who wouldn't. Tell me why a t-shirt is ok and trading card aren't? What is a greatest hits collection other a cash grab? What is a tour? What is a live DVD? It's capitalism my friend. And Gene is right. Nobody would buy Radiohead M&M's or toothpaste. But they have and will by Kiss. Why? Because they're fucking cartoon characters. Always were. You buy Kiss M&M's for the same reason you buy X-Men fruit snacks. Most of you aren't old enough to remember, but Reggie Jackson had his own candy bar.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/24/2009 12:29:57 PM
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Yep, itll be tommy and eric up there at the RRHOF performance
start seeing how many ways you can fit the word scab into a sentence now so that you can put up a good post the day after
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COMMENT | Interesting comments from the Bat Lizard
posted by : Get up and make it work
9/24/2009 12:29:58 PM
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On his rationale behind opening for Aerosmith, what a crock. $cab Ki$$ was coming off the Rock the Empty Seats tour, a financial calamity. There's no way Aerosmith would ever agree to opening for a watered down impostering band like $cab Ki$$. They opened for Aerosmith because they HAD to.
Mean Gene is constantly ragging on Ace and Peter, about crap that happened 20 years ago. You would think that whatever Gene has accomplished since then would be at the forefront of his ego. Evidently, he must not have accomplished anything, because he's constantly going back instead of forward.
Ace made Kiss a respectable band. Gene has spent the last 20 years making it a joke. Go buy your Tater Head dolls little girls and boys !!
According to Billboard, Anomaly is kicking the piss out of $onic Shit.
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COMMENT | Revisionist!
posted by : THRASHMONGER
9/24/2009 12:46:46 PM
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They asked Ace to participate, ACE turned THEM down - Ace wasn't booted. Sounds like a spurned woman, this asshole.
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COMMENT | Fuck KI$$ and all Gene $immon$ endeavour$
posted by :
9/24/2009 12:54:34 PM
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KI$$ defiled music - throw 'em all out!
Only morons still support this band.
#@!
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COMMENT | FACT
posted by : JJJB
9/24/2009 12:56:01 PM
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BOOM > Endgame
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Funny how everyone bitches about "scab" Kiss but never about revolving door fake Megadeth.
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COMMENT | honestly,.......
posted by : Haymaker
9/24/2009 1:03:06 PM
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does anyone take a word chaim witz says seriously? as usual, he comes off sounding like a complete ass-hat!
""Love yourself and respect yourself enough to have pride in what you do. Love and respect and have pride for the band you're in."
ummm, sorry CHAIM, how is using two stand-ins dressed as former members loving, respecting and having pride for kiss?!? how is videotaping yourself fucking a twenty-something model and having your own children see this respect for your family?!?how is a kiss mr. potato head doll respectul to anything but your bank statement?!?
CHAIM, on behalf of most of the intelligent music listeners in the world, go to hell!
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COMMENT | SCAB
posted by :
9/24/2009 1:29:34 PM
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A scab is generally someone who replaces the original worker, (From wikipedia : a person who works despite strike action or against the will of other employees.
Ace and Peter are not happy other people are using their faces. (They were not to bright when they cashed in.)
I consider Tommy and Eric scabs due to this reasoning. Were they to get their own makeup, different story. Then Eric would be a great drummer, Tommy would still be playing like ace and the CD is still KISS ripping off their own history, as I hear parts of Mr. Speed, Take It Off and a few others.
Pity KISS and Ace don't get along. Mash together the two CDs and ya have one great one.
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COMMENT | RiotAct666
posted by :
9/24/2009 1:45:25 PM
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"Good interview. Gene is right and spot on as usual." You meah you have a spot on your face for Gene to blow his load, right?
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COMMENT | Same sad song and dance
posted by :
9/24/2009 2:07:57 PM
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"This album is ......" fill in your own version of Paul and Gene's bullshit. What you get is a paint by numbers retread of bad hair metal. Sorry guys I learned my lesson way back in the 80's.
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COMMENT | Wow...
posted by :
9/24/2009 2:16:46 PM
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I'm at a loss for words right now. For the time being i will thank Haymaker for a great post and nybassman1 for the mashing the two cd's together thing. ACE is looking better every day. Anyone see him on "red eye" last night. It was great.
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COMMENT | WOW!!!
posted by : brianca
9/24/2009 2:45:40 PM
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I think "Haymaker" hit the nail on the head - in typical fashion, Simmons comes off sounding like a fat, bloated idiot!
"How cool is it to walk in and see KISS Mr. Potato heads, or KISS M&Ms?" - To me, this is the essence of how out-of-touch Gene Simmons is with his fans! For the record, Gene, it actually isn't cool at all! Maybe it's great for you because it makes you more money, but most of the KISS fans, even the diehards, think it's pathetic and sad!
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COMMENT | hey.............
posted by :
9/24/2009 3:14:34 PM
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Easy on fat bloated people. Doesn't mean wer're idiots. But judging by this story, Gene is.
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COMMENT | Gene
posted by : BSlash24
9/24/2009 3:19:38 PM
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is the KING of rationalization. He's overly insecure really, always telling us how great he is, how many BJ's he's received. If he's like this in real life, he must be tough to hang with, a major blow hard...he has one thing to prop him up, he is rich....I'd have more respect for him if he said "look, I'm near 60, KiSS is coming to a halt soon, I'm going to ride this Brand, make my last bit of $$ of this, cuz its going away soon, I'll secure my family's finances for 4 generations."..
.then fine, admit you aren't about the music, but stop throwing a band like Radiohead under the bus cuz they may lack that "Rock Star" charisma...but what they lack their, they make up with at least being true to their fans & music. (My feelings for the band, good or bad is irrelevant)...really, must every band sell M&M, where white makeup & Spit blood. It was fun for Kiss, but pride yourself in that spectacle, but you are what you are.....God Forbid too if KiSS ever strayed from the script live, same notes, night after night.
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COMMENT | WHEN?
posted by :
9/24/2009 4:04:46 PM
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Did Blabbermouth become English class? Who gives a fuck, you know what he or she was trying to say. People on here are as full of themselves as Gene is.
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COMMENT | Get up...
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
9/24/2009 4:46:08 PM
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"According to Billboard, Anomaly is kicking the piss out of $onic Shit."
Where?
I'm stoked Anomaly entered at #27, but Sonic Boom isn't even out yet.
Modern Day Delilah is at #11 on Billboard's Rock National Airplay Chart ... Outer Space never even charted.
Also, the Rock The Nation tour FOLLOWED the tour with Aerosmith ... not the other way around.
Anyway, I don't think Gene's comments are that bad. They're certainly not as critical as Paul's comments today. I just wish all parties would move on ... including interviewers. The subject has been beaten to death already.
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COMMENT | ?
posted by :
9/24/2009 4:59:47 PM
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Sonic Boom isnt even out yet. How can you count album sales if there is no album yet? It comes out October 6th
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COMMENT | Absolute no talent panty waste
posted by :
9/24/2009 5:08:13 PM
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Gene:
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COMMENT | No talent panty waste ....Take 2
posted by :
9/24/2009 5:13:03 PM
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Got so pissed I blew my load b4 I was ready...like I was saying Gene: or as Mazeeka would say PEEEEEOOOOOPLE (love the shit outta that) I tell you what I told Pauly a few posts up.....Shut your fat ass eating pie hole and do us all a favor and bid us a f******king Farewell for good...please!
I am so freaking over your shit and attitute you greedy underappreciate no talent bastard!
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COMMENT | Hall of Fame
posted by :
9/24/2009 7:27:18 PM
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I'm not going to take sides.
I was not there to see if it was Ace and Peter who were unreasonable and wanted more compensation for less effort that was fair.
I was not there to see if it was Gene and Paul who were unreasonable and wanted more effort for less compensation that was fair.
This hall of fame situation can go one of two ways -
- Like Van Halen, where the bad blood between band members results in the band and the fans cheated out of what was supposed to be a great night and career highlight for the band.
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- Like Metallica, where fans were treated to the current band along with Jason who had been in the band for a long time and was a major part of their success.
My opinion - Kiss is what it is today and no-one besides Gene and Paul are going to change that.
Follow the example of the Unplugged gig.
A one off with Ace and Peter sitting in for a couple of songs to celebrate what Gene Paul Ace and Peter DID do together and leave it for another time to bitch at each other if they absolutely can't get on with their lives without slinging shit.
It's one night.
Then go back to their own separate careers the next day.
In a perfect world they would all be happy for each other and want to make the most of it for all concerned, bands and fans alike.
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COMMENT | Bitter Gene
posted by :
9/24/2009 7:38:29 PM
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Ace was never thrown out of KISS. He left in '82 and left again in 2001 after the Farewell tour.
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COMMENT | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
posted by : YerMamaSux
9/24/2009 8:27:48 PM
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Gene Simmons is the ultimate supreme shithead of rock and roll! This fat fucker doesn't have an intelligent thought in his brain! I like the part about bringing your eyes to a KISS concert - yeah, Gene, because leaving your ears at home is a must since all of your music is shite! In the immortal words of Matt Foley, inspirational speaker: "Gene, I wish you would just shut your big YAPPER!!!!"
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COMMENT | Gene is a bit retarded with his old age
posted by :
9/25/2009 3:01:07 AM
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Who can deny that headline. Take some drugs gene or get married.)-dk
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COMMENT | The big question is where is down with webster?
posted by :
9/25/2009 11:47:43 AM
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You kissarmy morons said gene was soooo right and "owning" bob lesfetz...but gene said he'd get down with webster a spot on the u2 tour.
here are the opening acts for the u2 tour:
Glasvegas, Damien Dempsey, Kaiser Chiefs, Republic of Loose, Bell X1, The Script, Elbow, Snow Patrol, Black Eyed Peas and Muse
i guess bob was right wasnt he?
where the fuck is down with webster? theyre stuck in myspace / purevolume / last fm hell.
gene is a poor businessman for the modern era. all his sucesses were either way back when or based on way back when. if KISS was starting in the modern era, they wouldnt be big.
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COMMENT | IF
posted by :
9/25/2009 2:56:26 PM
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KISS started now with Sonic Boom, don't think it would go over that well.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/25/2009 3:54:43 PM
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I want to get Gene's dignified KISS enhancing, non-defiling KISS sex tape.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
9/25/2009 8:43:42 PM
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"They sold out, of course. You can't get another one anywhere. I don't even have one anymore. I sent the last one to the family of (deceased PANTERA guitarist) Dimebag Darrell (Abbott). The last will and testament of his family is that he be buried in a KISS casket. (I sent) the one I had right here in my museum."
I don't know but the idea of Gene sending a Kiss casket sounds like he's filling his ego than being generous. Did they actually use it?
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COMMENT | ^^^^gsan
posted by : bognerboy
9/25/2009 11:04:47 PM
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yes they used it..there are photos of him in the coffin..he was also burried with a van halen guitar..what eddie filling in his ego as well ??
believe it or not gene has a heart, kiss and dime were good friends and gene did a good thing..to knock someone after they done something good shows what sort of person you are!!
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COMMENT | Bullshit!!
posted by : YerMamaSux
9/26/2009 6:18:53 PM
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Gene did it for the press and no other reason! You think that greedy old fart would give Dime a KISS coffin without taking credit for it over and over again? If Gene really meant it as a gesture of good will, he would have donated it anonymously. But he wanted his name attached to Dime's death so he could reap the publicity - that's why he keeps bringing it up, over and over again. THAT DOESN'T MAKE HIM A GOOD PERSON, IT MAKES HIM A VAMPIRE - using someone's death to forward his own name!
You KISS-dorks are so blind in your admiration for KISS that you can't even see when someone is using a tragedy to make a few bucks! Pathetic!!
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COMMENT | Burn Bitch Burn
posted by : littlegreendude
9/27/2009 12:00:09 PM
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Respect is a two way street. Maybe if Peter and Ace had been given the respect they deserved and were allowed to be full contributors on Psycho Circus things would be different.
On the other hand, I don't understand how Peter and Ace could just throw away being in KISS. I saw them in Saratoga Springs, NY and Ace was so f**king drunk he was staggering around stage and missing chords all over the place. So, in that instance I definetly think Gene is correct, as a fan, you throw down your money expecting to see a quality show, and as a fan you deserve to have a band performing at their best. Not a drunk idiot. Just hit a local bar on a Saturday night, and you can see one of those for free.
Well. anyhow enough with the ranting.... Ace says he is clean now, and I hope he is. On the positive side, Anomaly kicks ass, and I can't wait for Sonic Boom, and to see KISS on tour in October.
I've always looked at KISS as an evolution, and haven't limited my thinking to the original four members. My favorite lineup, which was the shortest lived was Gene, Paul, Carr, and Frehley. I like Peter, but as a drummer he couldn't hold a candle(or drumstick for that matter) to either of the Eric's.
RARAN,
littlegreendude
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