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KISS' 'Sonic Boom' To Top Next Week's U.S. Album Chart
- Oct. 7, 2009
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According to Hits Daily Double, the companion web site of music industry tip sheet HITS, KISS' new album, "Sonic Boom", is on track to sell between 150,000 and 175,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release, giving the masked rockers a beeline on their first chart-topping release ever. KISS' new album, "Sonic Boom", was released in Europe on October 5 via Loud & Proud/ Roadrunner Records. The CD is being made available in the U.S. and Canada on October 6 exclusively via Wal-Mart, Walmart.com and Sam's Club retail locations. "Sonic Boom", produced by guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley in Los Angeles, is the centerpiece of a three-disc set that also features a completely re-recorded greatest hits CD (previously available in Japan) as well as a live DVD shot in Argentina during the band's recent, record-breaking KISS Alive 35 South American tour. The CD set is retailing for $12. The "Sonic Boom" cover art was created by Michael Doret, who also designed the band's classic "Rock And Roll Over" album cover. 
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COMMENT | BOOM
posted by :
10/7/2009 6:11:49 PM
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Suck it haters......lol
Just had to post that.
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COMMENT | cd and tour
posted by :
10/7/2009 6:15:59 PM
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got the cd yesterday morning.. damn good!
Going to Staples Center show!!!
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COMMENT | LOL!
posted by : Sarge
10/7/2009 6:17:01 PM
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KISS RULES!!!!
Screw the critics and haters!
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COMMENT | Great Album
posted by :
10/7/2009 6:27:01 PM
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It's about damn time Kiss debuted at #1. 35 years later and they are still kicking ass. Can't wait to see them for the first time in a few weeks! The CD is great also!
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COMMENT | Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by :
10/7/2009 6:52:53 PM
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Told you haters!! I said 100,000! It's EVEN MORE!!! Tommy Thayer & Eric Singer RULE!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : slavedriver1967
10/7/2009 7:00:42 PM
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This just proves how horrid the music landscape is.
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COMMENT | Going to try again
posted by :
10/7/2009 7:04:28 PM
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I listened and made a sonic boom in my pants!
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COMMENT |
posted by : Fani Dilth
10/7/2009 7:08:09 PM
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There's a couple decent tracks with Modern Day Deliah leading the pack but Out in the Cold just plain sucks ass. What's up with the lyrics If it's too Loud You're too Old... That has cheese jizz all over it.
I do have to give them mad props for the 5.00 black T's of the Destroyer and Sonic Boom covers at Walmart. The shirts are of good solid quality...
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COMMENT | Well, duh.
posted by :
10/7/2009 7:08:41 PM
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Shit sells.
Sad but true.
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COMMENT | congrats...they deserve it
posted by :
10/7/2009 7:25:01 PM
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as much as i bash...kudos due
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COMMENT | It is actaully a good KISS CD
posted by : killer-ing
10/7/2009 7:30:57 PM
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I got the CD and wacked it in, and it is a good KISS CD. Not all the songs sound like 70's KISS as the band said it would, but they all sound like good KISS songs!
If you don't like KISS, that is ok. But no need to spread your hater aid around. Go in a closet and suck your balls.
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COMMENT | I hope this proves to be true...
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
10/7/2009 7:34:19 PM
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...as KISS certainly deserve to have a Number #1 album to their credit. Especially after rolling up their sleeves and delivering the quality album they have.
HOWEVER ... there's still a chance they chart lower than that.
Michael Buble (whose last studio album topped Billboard) has a new cd coming out Friday. With his appearance on Oprah this week, he has the best shot at keeping KISS from Number #1.
Regardless of chart entry, I'm floored the cd is moving those kind of numbers.
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COMMENT | Good for them
posted by :
10/7/2009 7:50:11 PM
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But I still refuse to buy anything with Eric and Tommy in Ace/Peter makeup, and I won't buy rerecorded crap. KISS deserves the number one, but it's a pity that it's this cd.
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COMMENT | KISS
posted by : 45 ct
10/7/2009 7:53:30 PM
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THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD ONE C. D. AT A TIME!!!
They rocked on Letterman..
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/7/2009 7:55:11 PM
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Johny Depp was right American's are fucking stupid.
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COMMENT | Gotta admit to ya Bassman...
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
10/7/2009 8:00:16 PM
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#1) The re-records don't do anything for me. Black Diamond is probably the best of the bunch ... mainly because it had the novelty of Singer's lead vocals going for it. I'll take it for free as a bonus disc, but it won't be getting much of a workout.
#2) I agree that I wish KISS earned their number one spot with one of their 70's classics. 'Love Gun' came closest.
... again, despite the headline above, KISS may still enter below the top spot. Not that there's anything wrong with a #2 showing, but man, KISS should have at least one number one album in their amazing career.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/7/2009 8:09:18 PM
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i'll be the first KISS fan to throw cold water on this. i know there is illegal downloading, piracy etcthat all artists suffer from. But 170,000 is weak still. i hope this doesn't include downloaded legal copies of the album. hell, when Tools new album came out, it sold 600,000 in the first week. I like this album and i'm as big a KISS fan as it gets, but these numbers are disapointing to me...
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COMMENT | Ahhhhh....
posted by : ~CAIN~
10/7/2009 8:10:53 PM
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The POWER of Wal-Mart!
BUY SHEEP!!! BUY!!!
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COMMENT | Great CD
posted by : RiotAct666
10/7/2009 8:31:07 PM
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Can't wait to see them soon.
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COMMENT |
posted by : General Ceel
10/7/2009 8:35:01 PM
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Even if you don't like Kiss, nobody should complain about this success. It can mean only good things for all of us as hard rock and metal fans. Success breeds success. Things like this just open the door for other like minded musicians to get some much deserved exposure.
Has anybody noticed that there seems to be a lot more rock and metal on network TV recently? Its the snowball effect. The simple truth is that metal fans buy albums and concert tickets.... 12 year old pop fans do not. Right now that makes us important to the industry.
http://thegungancouncil.yuku.com/forums/6/master/1/
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COMMENT | 17,000 for Ace....
posted by :
10/7/2009 8:40:58 PM
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....200,000 for kiss...
difference is, most purchasers of ANOMALY didn't feel ripped off.
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COMMENT | Those #'s are actually good....
posted by :
10/7/2009 8:47:19 PM
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That's in the U.S alone, this week! Throw in Argentina and some other countries and we're looking at a gold album in a week or two!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/7/2009 8:52:23 PM
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If you guys remember the Guns and Roses disc C.D. had the same numbers. And we all know how that went.
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COMMENT | ......
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:00:13 PM
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Great album and for those who hate KISS can go and fu*ck yourselves!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:09:25 PM
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if this album was that good they would not have to give a rerecorded album and a dvd with it for 12 bucks, think about it kiss sucks! i would not waist hardrive space on torrenting this peice of shit! and to the jackass that made the gnr remark, i dont really care for gnr but kiss will never come close to the guitar work from Buckethead on Chinese Democracy!
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COMMENT | If soundscan was around in the 1970`s.......
posted by : ISTHATUGIL?
10/7/2009 9:12:55 PM
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They would have had at least 5 # 1 albums.
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COMMENT | "Haters?"
posted by : THRASHMONGER
10/7/2009 9:28:50 PM
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Did Blabbermouth suddenly become Yo MTV Raps or something?
OF COURSE this album is selling well, who else is putting out 3 disks for $12? The industry should have been doing this all along, I hope they see the sales numbers and act accordingly. And for that, I give this bullshit scab band a huge thumb's up.
But nope, I don't like 80's-style hair "metal" so I'll pass.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:29:53 PM
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If each unit didn't count as THREE and it wasn't sold at a drastically reduced price to the People of Wal-Mart, this album would have barely cracked the top ten.
Divide the total by three if you'd like to get a more accurate representation of how many individuals actually bought the album.
Then wait to see sales PLUMMET next week and there after.
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COMMENT | General Ceel
posted by : ISTHATUGIL?
10/7/2009 9:31:11 PM
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well said. yeah have you noticed of late its pretty cool i love it. as a metal/hard rock fan for 30 years these are good times indeed.
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COMMENT | ^^ REPEATED FOR TRUTH ^^
posted by : vultures
10/7/2009 9:39:34 PM
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"If each unit didn't count as THREE and it wasn't sold at a drastically reduced price to the People of Wal-Mart, this album would have barely cracked the top ten."
Weighted stores are the dark secret of soundscan numbers and can be manipulated.
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COMMENT | Arrogant
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:42:33 PM
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You are incorrect. KISS is not getting 3 units credited for each one sold. Only the Sonic Boom CD is counting towards the total. The DVD not counting is obvious(except to you) as it is a DVD, not a CD. The rerecords don't count because in order to get credit for 2 CD's, they have to total 100 minutes and the rerecords come up short. So only Sonic Boom is counting. Try again hater. Hell, Psycho Circus with the orginal members and all the fanfare only sold 109k in its first week. And that was before downloading. 150-175k is very good for this environment.
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COMMENT | Arrogant, you're a bit off...
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:44:41 PM
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... the weekly billboard charts are tallied by how many units are SCANNED at retailers registers, so if Sonic Boom's sales are 200,000, then they sold 200, 000 copies of Sonic Boom. On the flip side, the RIAA who awards gold and platinum awards, goes by how many discs were SHIPPED... so your theory is accurate here, but I think it would be mulitplied by 2, not 3 (I'm not so sure the DVD counts in this case). So, if Sonic Boom shipped 250,000 copies to retailers, then it would be at least gold (meaning 500,000 shipped). Someone correct me if I'm wrong too, please.
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COMMENT | I stand corrected!
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:45:58 PM
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Thanks!
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COMMENT | KISS FOREVER
posted by :
10/7/2009 9:54:38 PM
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Kiss proves why they are the best yet again.To all the non believers,accept defeat,move on, hate someone else for awhile.
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COMMENT | Shit sells.....
posted by : YerMamaSux
10/7/2009 9:54:45 PM
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Psycho Circus did the same thing, and is now panned. Sonic Shit will do the same.
KISS sucks, always have, always will. The KISS-dorks will buy anything KISS puts out! Anyone who quotes record sales is a retard - Britney Spears also sells multi-platinum. It only proves one thing - KISS, like the entire music industry right now, SUCKS ASS! Just like the KISS Army!
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COMMENT |
posted by : Dee67
10/7/2009 10:07:01 PM
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I bought it. Kiss MUSIC I'll buy.. all the other shit will never see one red cent of mine.
2 cd's and a dvd for 12 bux.. nice value. I have no issue with it.
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COMMENT | It could sell 10 million...
posted by : THRASHMONGER
10/7/2009 10:29:19 PM
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So does Britney Spears - Does that make her worthy of such adulation? Nope.
This album sounds like Lick It Up, and the sheep are doing exactly that.
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COMMENT | To all Kiss "Haters"...
posted by : ginfire
10/7/2009 10:41:32 PM
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You're not really "hater's"...your just immature, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash who will never amount to anything more than the disease you already are and who find joy in dragging everyone around you into your diseased minds...
Ya know what, you lose...While Kiss goes to #1 on Billboard, you can rest assured that you could NEVER achieve anything close.
The fans have spoken and your on the losing end and aaaaalways will be
\m/
KISS fans: 1
Hater's: 0
Have a nice day :-)
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COMMENT |
posted by : wooten
10/7/2009 10:54:10 PM
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Bought it last night. Pretty darn good. They should have left off Never Enough if only because it sounds like a cross between Nothing but a Good Time and Slide it in.
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COMMENT | #1.....150,000 - 170,000 first week
posted by :
10/7/2009 10:54:44 PM
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....I don't think anything else needs to be said!
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COMMENT | <<<<<<<
posted by : Bleearg
10/7/2009 11:41:20 PM
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Good, I'm happy they may get to #1, but Walmart can't be too happy with this.
Last year AC/DC sold 784,000 in the first week with there Walmart special.
In 2007, The Eagles sold 711,000 in the first week with there walmart deal
If Kiss struck a similar deal (you know they probably did) then Walmart is not happy.
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COMMENT | cd............
posted by :
10/7/2009 11:42:17 PM
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sucks!
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COMMENT | What?
posted by : rifforus
10/8/2009 12:39:54 AM
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There's a chart for poorest decisions ever made by a band? I used to love Kiss. Now I cry.
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COMMENT | don't get excited
posted by :
10/8/2009 12:44:45 AM
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First week debut #1 on Billboard. Second week...#175
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COMMENT | KI$$ is on Jimmy Kimmel......
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger
10/8/2009 1:05:44 AM
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too bad it was taped 2 weeks ago and doctored like KI$$ ALIVE was years ago!!!!!
"You wanted the best.....surely you jest......the most overdubbed band in the world......KI$$"
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COMMENT | Shit sells...
posted by : JudasRising
10/8/2009 4:04:08 AM
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and all the American deaf, dumb and blind Kiss fangirls are buying.
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COMMENT | hahahaha bashers are shitin !!
posted by : bognerboy
10/8/2009 4:32:44 AM
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175 000 first week, same next week, same week after, all the bashers are running out of ammo and steam hahahaha fan boy this and fan boy that, thats all you got, you got NOTHING LOL !!!!
this is an amzing album, shits all over black ice or any recent album by a classic act, sales will rise fast once word gets around about this album
just for the record only sonic boom counts in sales because the re recorded disk and dvd are extras not part of " sonic boom " its self..with alive one 2 disk's were counted because both disk's were part of the release, in this case these are just freebies that come with the new album
if for some reason it doesnt debut #1 this week, sales of this album will stay steady and this will go #1 in many countires !!!
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COMMENT | Sonic Surprise
posted by :
10/8/2009 5:18:30 AM
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I gotta admit I cried like a baby when I heard Sonic Boom ... This is the best rock album of the decade.
This album crushes Black Ice and, sadly, humiliates Ace's Anomaly.
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COMMENT | Good for them but..
posted by : Stiltskin
10/8/2009 7:39:12 AM
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150k-175k is far less than i expected. Didn´t even Chinese shit with Axl sell better than that? Metallica sold around 500k wtih their last one first week, and of course AC/DC landed around 800k first week.
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COMMENT | where is mazeeka
posted by : rock69
10/8/2009 8:20:03 AM
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I know where he is peeeeeeeeople....he's sitting at the end of his bed with his tail between his legs, foot in his mouth and his Tears Are Falling because he, like most people, thought the album would flop.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/8/2009 8:23:04 AM
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Question for the mentally retarded Kiss fanboys : Why Kiss only generate 150k first week sales when AC/DC with the exact same Wal Mart distribution deal reached 780k sales a year ago ? Sonic Boom is aldready a major commercial failure even if it gets to n°1 next week.
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COMMENT |
posted by : rock69
10/8/2009 8:30:50 AM
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I may have been mistaken about Mazeeka thinking the album would flop. Was thinking about someone else. Gotcha on the peeeeeople line though.
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COMMENT | Astroboy
posted by : rock69
10/8/2009 8:32:29 AM
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Why is Sonice Boom a major failire if it's on track to sell 150k-175k in it's first week. Even if it only sells that many in it's first week, who's to say it won't sell more next week or the week after?
Does anyone remember what Black Ice was "on track to sell" after 2 days of release?
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COMMENT | Not a kiss fan at all
posted by : LappyMcNut
10/8/2009 8:48:22 AM
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But grats to them, better than some hip-hop shit
#s seem not super strong for a Wallmart deal, but not shabby at all....
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COMMENT | 175000 copies =
posted by :
10/8/2009 9:39:22 AM
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2.1 million gross not bad for 1 day.
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COMMENT | LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
10/8/2009 9:52:16 AM
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Some funny rationalizations going on from the non KISS fans...
#1) The Sonic Boom package is counted as a single unit for Soundscan. Thus ... 150,000 copies to 175,000 copies sold means just that.
#2) There is NO secret deal where Wal-Mart guaranteed to report a certain number of units sold for the first week.
#3) "Sonic Boom is a failure even if it goes to number one because AC/DC sold more in its first week"
LOL ... this is one of my favorites. Look Einstein, AC/DC moves more units than KISS ... and probably everybody else's favorite band who's posting here. Here's the reality ... if the band sells the amount of units as predicted above, it will be the group's best sales week since the SoundScan era began back in 1991. Fact.
#4) The cd will drop off the charts next week.
Sonic Boom WILL drop in next weeks chart. Hard to predict how far, but that doesn't detract from the cd entering at the Top Spot (or at #2).
A drop off in the 2nd week usually happens with new releases ... especially from veteran hard rock acts.
The one exception I can think of is the Chickenfoot release ... but that was because it came out on a Friday and only had through Sunday evening to be counted for its first week sales. So it actually went up the chart in its second week, due to having a full week of sales.
#5) "Psycho Circus did the same thing and is now panned. Same thing will happen with Sonic Boom"
Except that critics, and more importantly FANS, were underwhelmed by Psycho Circus from the get go. That's a far cry from the critical and fan reaction to this release.
I do find it funny that the usual suspects will come up with a conspiracy theory to calm themselves over the band doing well. Some of you are pavlovian in your mania.
Oh ... for the record, 'Love Gun' peaked at #4
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COMMENT | i don't see the fuss
posted by : Sharon Tate Baby
10/8/2009 10:45:47 AM
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Why are you guys all crying about this crap? If you like them great, if not, great. I doubt anyone will change sides based on your arguments. It's like politicians arguing.
I heard Sonic Boom at work yesterday and, upon first listen, it was pretty boring in my opinion. I will give it a few more tries but nothing stood out to me as anything above mediocre. I heard Anomaly too last week and thought that was pretty horrible. My money will go to Slayer next month.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/8/2009 10:47:03 AM
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KISS for number 1!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : JRSPON
10/8/2009 11:23:23 AM
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150,000 the first week and the same people butch - it tells me that if it had done 550,000 the first week they would bitch about it also, i think the #'s are good, they could of done 17,000 the first week, that would of sucked, and 150,000 units ia way better than 98 % of the band on BM, i would say that most deliver the forat week around 5500 cd's. AC/DC, Metallica have sold better, thats great, i think SB is damn good!!!
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COMMENT | A masterpiece??????
posted by : JRSPON
10/8/2009 11:26:07 AM
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I am a huge Ace and Kiss fan, Anomaly is no way a masterpiece, neither is SB, if you think Anomaly is then you are crazy, I have both, Anomaly is ok, most of it sucks, there are a few dood tunes , it is a C , SB should be a B plus!!!
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COMMENT | Proof is in the pudding
posted by :
10/8/2009 11:49:10 AM
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For all who say "shit sells", I'd love to hear what they think is good...oh, take a listen to obscure band, etc. Give KISS their props for a job well done.
This is a great KISS album. If you don't like KISS, of course you won't like it. Get over it. Why did it sell more than Ace's CD, because most people who are casual fans don't know who the hell Ace Frehley is.
and yes, 1 sale = 1 record Arrogant...
#1, even with Wal-Mart f'ing up the distribution!
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COMMENT | QUESTION
posted by : SOLA
10/8/2009 12:31:44 PM
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Are these physical store purchases or b^ll sh^t number of Wal Mart store orders like the ac/dc disc. Walmart stores are flooded with AcDc cd's, but they still count as bogus "sales" since Wal Mart ended up ordering them. I'm also curious to see what the itunes numbers are like, because that's the only chart that really matters these days. On a positive note, the couple of songs I heard sound pretty good for a change.
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COMMENT | No
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
10/8/2009 12:37:25 PM
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"they still count as bogus "sales" since Wal Mart ended up ordering them"
No, they Wal-Mart order simply equates to the amount SHIPPED, not actually SOLD. That's where Soundscan comes in. KISS is literally SELLING the amount of units mentioned above.
The cd WILL remain overstocked like 'Black Ice" though. Good lord, did they order a massive amount of both.
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COMMENT |
posted by : SOLA
10/8/2009 1:15:13 PM
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Yeah, they had to order over a miilion CD's because that was part of the plan For Black Ice and for Wal-Mart to get the Exclusive rights to sell..It basically guarantees that the CD goes Double Platinum without a purchase ever being made.Kind of misleading and weak.
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COMMENT | Sales are only half of what is being reported
posted by : merrick69
10/8/2009 1:51:03 PM
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Keep in mind there are two CDs in Sonic Boom, so each sale counts as two, so the numbers being reported are actually twice the number of copies of Sonic Boom that have really sold.
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COMMENT | merrick69 ... you're wrong
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
10/8/2009 2:12:50 PM
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For the umpteenth time if this thread, the entire Sonic Boom package is being counted by Soundscan as ONE unit.
Obviously, there's still a big misunderstanding about how multi-set albums are counted for the Billboard charts.
One album sold counts as one album sold, whether the CD is a single set, a double-CD, a triple-CD, or whatever.
The "double-CD counting as two CDs" is the policy of the RIAA!!! You know, the agency that determines gold and platinum certifications.
So ... ONE MORE TIME so that the slower ones can grasp this:
SOUNDSCAN counts one CD sold as one CD sold, even if that CD is a double or triple set.
Everyone get that now? Good.
Sheeeeesh....
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COMMENT | Thanks for the clarification
posted by : merrick69
10/8/2009 2:18:30 PM
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But you didn't have to be a dick about it. I didn't read all of the 80+ posts to see that this had already been addressed.
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COMMENT | Wasn't trying to be a dick Merrick...
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
10/8/2009 2:33:57 PM
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...and you're welcome for the clarification.
The tone in my post relates to the number of times we've addressed this already, which yes ... I had assumed you had read.
My apologies...
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COMMENT |
posted by : rock69
10/8/2009 2:49:03 PM
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SOLA:
NO. You are wrong. Wal-Mart may have promised KISS a certain amount of albums sold, which KISS is paid for as part of the deal. So Wal-mart PURCHASES a million uniits..however, Soundscan does not track PURCHASES by suppliers. It tracks SALES of albums. So whenever a cashier rings through Sonic Boom at your local wal-mart, Soundscan will receive a report, telling them Sonic Boom just sold 1 copy.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
10/8/2009 2:55:17 PM
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I'm a huge KISS fan and have been for a long time. The playing on the album is one of their best ever. I still don't think there are any real anthems though. Almost every album, except the Elder and Unmasked has had one. Just the same it's good. I give every song a 7 or 8 out of 10. Every album since Love Gun (forget then she kissed me) has has a few 3 and 4s.
I don't understand the whole comparison to Ace though. The guy just doesn't have the work ethic to tour or put out material on a regular basis. A great artist though! But 7 years since his departure and 20 years since his last album before releasing anything. Talk about failing to cease the moment. This alone demonstrates why they needed to move on without him!
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