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Last Updated: November 23, 2009 11:55 PM




DETHKLOK Co-Creator Says Band's Current Tour With MASTODON Is 'A Sausage Fest' - Nov. 6, 2009
Erica Landau of New Times recently conducted an interview with Brendon Small, co-creator of "Metalocalypse", the smash hit animated series on Adult Swim featuring the fictitious metal band DETHKLOK. A few excerpts from the chat follow below.

New Times: What does metal touch on, and why is it so funny?

Brendon Small: Well here's the logic for me. What is death metal? Death metal is about the idea that you're going to die. Dying is brutal, metal is brutal. But there is a lot of other shit that's brutal that you experience every day of your life, that isn't death, but it makes your life brutal and horrible and fucked up. Things like humidity, going to the dentist, hangovers...that's why people relate to the brutality of metal is because their lives are filled with a whole bunch of torturous torments. So that was the universality of brutality that is somewhat mundane and boring, but those mundane and boring things can be tortuous things as well. That's my comic angle on it, at least. I don't think that that's actually true.

New Times: Why are there so few females on the show?

Brendon Small: People ask us why there are no main characters that are girls. And I kind of disagree I think some of our main characters are girls. I think Toki Wartooth is a woman. I think he is the sister. I think Pickles is very maternal.

New Times: So you're busting gender constructs as opposed to incorporating females?

Brendon Small: Come to one of our shows, and look at the ratio of girls to guys. It is an extension of the world. The world is a sausage fest. That's what metal is. This tour is like Sausage Fest 2009. You can spot a few girls here, but you definitely see a bunch of dudes, like, chanting along with the lyrics. And their numbers are outweighing the girls and it's kind of always been that way as far as fanship. The fans, the tour bus, it's a sausage fest. It is. The show is a sausage fest. And it's an unfortunate reflection of the world of metal.

New Times: How did the original incarnation of the tour go? I heard there were problems.

Brendon Small: The first thing was a college tour. My problem with it was that it wasn't played at venues with metal bands. It was kind of with indie-rock bands and it was somebody, somewhere packaging a really ridiculous package that I was very unhappy about it, because I thought they missed the mark about who the audience was. That was it. Playing-wise I had the same amazing, outstanding players including Gene Hoglan, [Bryan Beller], and Mike Keneally... You are playing at commencement halls in a college, and that's just not a cool metal venue. There's a big difference between a club atmosphere and a cafeteria.

New Times: When you conceptualized the show, did you always want to do a tour?

Brendon Small: It was all very thought-out, and it was logical thinking. Let's put out a record, there should be some way to be able to do it. How do I do that? Well, there's an anime show. You have a gigantic screen, you play the picture. Basically that was the idea. I wanted to do all that stuff, and I wanted the show to be able to live outside of its TV. I wanted it to be a big, fun, stupid ride. Seriously, I've been to a lot of shows and even bands that I love, when they're four songs in, I'm like, they're playing, that's really cool. But there's real opportunity to do something exciting and new.

New Times: "Metalocalypse" is in some ways the opposite of "Spinal Tap". How did "Spinal Tap" serve as inspiration?

Brendon Small: The thing is that "Spinal Tap" is the ultimate music comedy project. It's the best version of music and comedy and authenticity wrapped up in one... This show will never be anything as good as that and unfortunately "Spinal Tap" nailed it so early that we had to do things to not be like "Spinal Tap". It's a band going on its way out, and we went the other way and made it the best entertainment act on earth, to make it less "Spinal Tap"-esque.

Read the entire interview from New Times.

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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666
11/6/2009 8:24:16 PM

Good band that makes some killer music.

COMMENT |
posted by : Mingleton
11/6/2009 8:33:03 PM

DIE FOR DETHKLOK

COMMENT |
posted by : sunstyle
11/6/2009 8:36:57 PM

sounds like about 95% of metal shows =p

COMMENT | "The Universality of Brutality"
posted by : THRILLHO_use
11/6/2009 9:13:34 PM

I think Brendon already nailed the title for Dethalbum III right there.

COMMENT |
posted by : rectumrazor
11/6/2009 9:19:36 PM

"15 women? That's pretty good for a Death Metal show!" - Corpsegrinder, when I saw Cannibal Corpse a couple of months ago... just before he dedicated "Fucked With A Knife" to them.

I'm sure there were more than 15, but a lot of them did look pretty butch, so it's an easy mistake to make.

COMMENT |
posted by : Ace96
11/6/2009 9:37:37 PM

You probably have to go to a Katy Perry concert to see more girls than guys, unfortunately.

COMMENT |
posted by : gibbsd09
11/6/2009 10:11:07 PM

seems like a lot of the girls who do show up have the potential to be dudes... at least here in wisconsin

COMMENT | Yummy
posted by : agresiva7
11/6/2009 10:35:08 PM

I love sausage, specially Skwigelf's, just kidding.

COMMENT |
posted by : OMGWTFBBQ
11/6/2009 11:29:06 PM

Well yeah only crappy scene metal bands are the only ones with a decent amount of girls at their concerts.

COMMENT | lol
posted by : Red16
11/6/2009 11:56:12 PM

if you want women, put on a colourful shirt, cut your hair and talk like fucking chicks is all you do when you're not eating, sleeping or taking a shit.

Yeah, like I'm dying to live that lifestyle.

COMMENT | Brendon Small
posted by : Lorn
11/7/2009 12:40:17 AM

Just pissed of Toki "I'll shows you who's a gurls!!" BASH!

I get his point sorta. But kinda sounds like a cop out. There probably should be more women on the show. And secondly, (though a minor point) what he said about Toki goes against stuff that has been done in the episodes. Toki's gone nuts because people think he's the "innocent" "nice" one, etc. Kinda weird the the creator of the show doesn't seem to know his own characters and episodes that well. Whatever.

I think its a fun show most of the time. I've heard other interviews though with Brendan Small and he's said some weird stuff here and there. Has some odd points of view. Metal right now has all sorts of girls involved, a lot more than it was in the 80's, and I think its a lot stronger for it. Don't know what kind of shows he's talking about, but plenty of metal concerts I've been to have plenty of girls as well as guys.

COMMENT |
posted by : Mingleton
11/7/2009 12:48:44 AM

"I get his point sorta. But kinda sounds like a cop out. There probably should be more women on the show. And secondly, (though a minor point) what he said about Toki goes against stuff that has been done in the episodes. Toki's gone nuts because people think he's the "innocent" "nice" one, etc. Kinda weird the the creator of the show doesn't seem to know his own characters and episodes that well. Whatever"

Man, this whole interview's been tonque in cheek, and you think about it, out of everyone in the band, Toki is the most girlish no matter which way you put it. Even though he is my favorite!

COMMENT |
posted by : the2989
11/7/2009 1:29:55 AM

That's why you should always recruit a trendy metrosexual singer for your death metal band. That will always bring in a few girls.

COMMENT |
posted by : EL PENDEJO
11/7/2009 2:30:17 AM

Don't talk about sausage around Murderface.

COMMENT | He isn't saying anything new
posted by : Ironlung
11/7/2009 3:25:20 AM

some shows are better than some in the sausage respect, but as an overall statement, yes. I have yet to go to the metal show where there are more girls than dudes ...

COMMENT | mr smalls...you went to berklee
posted by : erpbass6
11/7/2009 7:45:18 AM

you should know about sausage fests.

welcome back to metal, son.

COMMENT | In Flames
posted by : IbanezJem777
11/7/2009 9:39:42 AM

there were a bunch of hot chicks at In FLames

COMMENT | I was a a BDM show a few weeks back...
posted by : -gODGRINDER-
11/7/2009 11:00:19 AM

....and some guy was wearing a shirt that said:

"Scene chicks give the best dome."

I want it.

COMMENT | BIGEY IS A FUCKING IDIOT,
posted by : Juggalo_Guitar_God420
11/7/2009 11:56:15 AM

If he think The Gorillaz are better than a death metal band. Seriously, how can you compare some shitty production rap/pop group to DETHKLOK. Thats just fucking outlandish and rediculous

COMMENT | It's all for laughs!
posted by : Doombreed
11/7/2009 12:50:56 PM

I've seen a real hot girl at a Dethklok show...wait that was my lady! Death Metal shows are about mosh pits. Save the tits for after the show!

COMMENT | it all rules
posted by : mummyman
11/7/2009 1:01:19 PM

Great show, done by real fans,voiced by real bands. two great CD's ...what's not to like....hilarious and awesome all at once. And a big fuck you to anyone who thinks otherwise

COMMENT | Cos Girls Know
posted by : Cereal Killer
11/7/2009 2:22:18 PM

Mastodon suck eggs.

COMMENT | so mr smalls
posted by : megal0maniac
11/7/2009 9:01:21 PM

are you enjoying your sausage ??

seriously. These guys are not metal - plus go to a bon Jovi show and hook up with the hot milfs there !

COMMENT | If only Soilent Green was on this tour too...
posted by : Chainedown
11/7/2009 11:58:27 PM

Think about it... Mastodon/Dethklok, with Soilent Green opening?? Would've been killer.

COMMENT |
posted by : Odysseus
11/10/2009 2:45:25 AM

"Death metal is about the idea that you're going to die."

Really? That's the worst definition of Death Metal I've ever heard.

I got through about 2 songs of Dethklok's set when they came through with Mastodon, and it was fucking garbage. But whatever, people buy their shit and they're making a killing off of mocking metal. Amazing how little integrity is left in the world.



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