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Last Updated: July 30, 2010 5:58 AM




TESTAMENT Frontman: 'The Record Business Is Not What It Used To Be' - Mar. 11, 2010
Aniruddh "Andrew" Bansal of Metal Assault conducted an interview with vocalist Chuck Billy of San Francisco Bay Area thrash metal veterans TESTAMENT on March 11 in Los Angeles, California. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

Metal Assault: Considering the circumstances today, is constant touring more of a necessity, especially for metal bands?

Chuck: Not more than ever before, but touring is always the most important thing because for most bands, that's how they have to make their money, through touring and selling t-shirts. It is not about the record sales anymore. The record business is not what it used to be. The Internet and all that stuff is involved. It's not as big as it was.

Metal Assault: These days we get tours with a whole variety of bands packaged together. Don't you think we need more tours like this one [with MEGADETH and EXODUS], which is an out-and-out thrash fest?

Chuck: I think we do! It says a lot about this tour for Dave Mustaine and even the guys from SLAYER, who decided, "I don't want to listen to the record company who are telling me to take out a new band on tour that nobody knows." That's the way the record companies' business works. With this tour, it is more like "No, this is the band I want to tour with and I'm just going to do it." It ends up pleasing the fans more than the record company, which is more important.

Metal Assault: Your style of thrash vocals is quite unique, but you got mixed reactions when you first incorporated the "growl"-type sound into it. What did it take to deal with that and eventually being successful with it?

Chuck: I never really thought about it. I just kind of came into my own. Everyone has his or her opinion, that's the thing about the music business or being in the public's eye in general. You can't please everybody. So you can't really let it get to you, you've just got to do it. That's what you can do, to do your best and to give it your 100 percent out there.

Metal Assault: The bands on this tour played together a pretty long while back. Does this tour make you think back to or talk about those years at all?

Chuck: We haven't really discussed it amongst ourselves. It's more about discussing it with the fans, talking about going to the tour back then and now they are bringing their new friends, bringing their children to the show now (laughs). So it is cool. For such fans its like 'I saw this tour back then and now here's my son who is going to see pretty much the same show twenty years later!'

Metal Assault: Jeff Paulick of LAZARUS A.D. [who toured with TESTAMENT in 2009] told me that bands should really learn from TESTAMENT about how to treat opening bands. How important you think it is to do that?

Chuck: Oh, it is as important as anything! All the tours that we've done for twenty-five years with JUDAS PRIEST, IRON MAIDEN, Ronnie James Dio, BLACK SABBATH, all of those guys were total professionals and treated their bands well. They never played games like not letting us put their lights and none of that kind of stuff. They are confident in their own performance and you get to learn that from them. So it is always nice to have that feeling. So whenever I have the opportunity to go out and headline and somebody's supporting us, it makes you think that, yeah, you want to do it right, because that's just the way you do it! (laughs)

Read the entire interview from Metal Assault.

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COMMENT |
posted by : pixie213
3/11/2010 6:24:34 PM

Awesome...go Andrew!!!!METAL ASSUALT!!!!
1st post

COMMENT |
posted by : MetallicaPuppet
3/11/2010 7:05:40 PM

That explains why they jumped on the Megadeth/Exodus tour in the middle of working on the new album...they won't make money on the album but they will make money on tour.

2nd post.


COMMENT | Chuck's the MAN!
posted by : megaluisdeth
3/11/2010 7:16:31 PM

I took a picture with him for the Formation of Damnation tour, and met Greg Christian! Best Live Performance band ever.

COMMENT |
posted by : Von Lee
3/11/2010 7:37:53 PM

who can make money from selling records now ??

go TOUR !!!

COMMENT |
posted by : quigonkick
3/11/2010 7:42:08 PM

I finally got to see them last year... after a 17 year wait! Greg Christian was half the reason I picked up the bass.

I think something being overlooked is the circle that things work in when it comes to money and music. The labels fund the albums and front upstart costs for tours. Bands play the tours and sell shirts (and hopefully some albums as well) just as Chuck said. Here's the catch: If albums do NOT sell, then labels won't fund anymore albums AND they won't bother with tours! No tour = fewer shirt sales.

I doubt that labels care how many shirts sell. Oh wait... lemme step back a couple steps... thanks to Korn with their "brilliant" 360° agreements (letting non-band entities in on merch profits), the new standard has been set to bleed the artist even more. Is this what you guys want?

It's been well-known that bands do not make $$ off the album sales except in extreme circumstances like with Metallica, but to "punish" the labels by stealing the music is misdirected anger and - once again - hurts the artist the most. This akin to dropping weights on one's own foot because the next door neighbor is a prick.

COMMENT | other revenue streams...
posted by : lundtheconqueror
3/11/2010 8:03:38 PM

...and this also why bands try hard to put their name on other types of merchandise, in video games, etc....
Your band is a business, and you have to explore all revenue streams that you can.
If you are waiting for record and t-shirt sales - you'll never make a dime.

COMMENT | hypocrites
posted by : Capricac
3/11/2010 9:02:29 PM

my band opened for Testament in Atlanta in the '90s and they treated us and the other bands like shit. they were all about some money and not letting the other bands use their PA and sell our shit cheaper than theirs, which was way overpriced. arrogant fucks. oh well, serves 'em right to struggle.

COMMENT |
posted by : Metal Fisted
3/11/2010 10:44:57 PM

Touring and getting your name out there is the only avenue for band survival. Decent music wouldn't hurt either...

COMMENT | No shit sherlock
posted by : Vader
3/12/2010 12:44:16 AM

Things tend to change after 25+ years!!

COMMENT |
posted by : The Judge
3/12/2010 1:09:37 AM

In other news....

It appears bears do indeed shit in the woods.

COMMENT |
posted by : The Judge
3/12/2010 1:10:01 AM


*insert generic, pointless, sycophantic, Riotact666 comment here*

COMMENT | Nice
posted by : Vegetaman
3/12/2010 2:11:11 AM

Pretty damn good interview with Chuck.

COMMENT | ^
posted by : Skanna
3/12/2010 3:43:48 AM

To quote The Judge, 'I rest my case'.

COMMENT | Capricac
posted by : PanzerD
3/12/2010 4:01:39 AM

Maybe there was something you were missing, or maybe your band gave them the wrong impression, I know several bands that have played with Testament and they've had nothing but good things to say. Every show of theirs I've been to, they've always been the most down-to-earth guys, always hanging out in the crowd, not hung up on rock star bullshit. Eric Peterson even came over and BS'ed with me on the side of the stage during their set once between songs.

Maybe you were just the exception to the rule.

COMMENT | Chuck rules
posted by : RiotAct666
3/12/2010 9:45:53 AM

Saw Testament in 2008 and 2009. both those shows were awesome.



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