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OZZY OSBOURNE: I Never Fired ZAKK WYLDE - June 16, 2010
Carol Anne Szel of Goldmine magazine recently conducted an interview with legendary heavy metal singer Ozzy Osbourne. A few excerpts from the chat follow below.

On his new solo album, "Scream":

"I've never spent that much time on any record I've ever made. We started it about a year and a half ago. I mean, we didn't do it for a year and a half every day. We'd go in. Do a bit. Then do something else and go back to it."

"In the past we'd find a place to go and start to play with my band and just jam when we feel like jamming. But on this one, (with producer) Kevin Churko, we laid the foundations and my band played against the foundations. So I kind of lose a spiritual charge kind of thing, when you build it the way they do it now. I'm not disappointed. I'm really pleased with the way it turned out. But to me, I like to get the band thing, you know, rather than put the band on afterwards."

"It's an Ozzy album, but he (Churko) worked the buttons and pushed the knobs and got the sounds. With Kevin, I was under the impression that you can't get a heavy sound on digital. But that's bullshit because the stuff on this album is very, very heavy."

On the topic of music and the direction the industry is taking:

"Well, that's a good question, because I'm fucked if I know. There are times when I walk around with my head in my rear end."

"I was out on Sunset (Strip) a while ago with [wife/manager] Sharon, where there's a bookshelf, where I always get the British newspapers. And I said, 'Let's go to Tower Records and see if they've got the new Sheryl Crow record.' So I go in, and it's empty at, like, 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock in the afternoon. I said, 'Do you have the Sheryl Crow?' And he said, 'Yeah I've got lots of them; how many do you want?' I didn't understand what he was trying to get at. Then the following week, it was gone. That's what's happening. Everyone's gone from reality to unreality in the respect that they all want to sit in their fucking houses now on their computers. So everybody has gone inward into their cave, if you like. We have to go to the fuckin' JC Penney and all that shit and to coffee shops now to buy music, which is kind of sad. It's probably a similar thing when silent movies went over to talkie movies. All of the sudden, it kind of disappeared."

On what musicians today have to go through:

"I was also shocked to find out what young bands have to do now when they get signed to a record company. They take part of their publishing, their concessions, their gig money. It's, like, ridiculous. At the same time I've been so lucky to have my career. I've had such good fortune. I'm just plodding on, you know. People say, 'Are you retiring?' But the thing is, I'm not getting any younger. And if the crowd starts to thin, diminish, then I'll see it as a sign that it's time to hang up my microphone. I don't want to go from arenas to bars, you know?"

On the reason for his longevity:

"I don't know. I don't particularly want to know. But I'm glad. I was thinking if somebody like JOURNEY, or somebody like that … I mean, they used to fill football stadiums. Some bands end up playing in small clubs. I can't do that."

On the departure of guitarist Zakk Wylde:

"It's not changed that much, apart from the fact that I thought I was beginning to sound like, um … what's his band called? Zakk's band. My brain, it just started on the left side. BLACK LABEL SOCIETY. I started to sound like BLACK LABEL SOCIETY."

"I don't want anyone to think for one minute that I fired him. I never fired him. He never left. There was nothing to leave. Because all he was doing was his gig and mine. It kind of got to us crashing into each other. But I had to let go, because it's me rather than him."

On new guitarist Gus G.:

"Just give Gus a chance, 'cause there was a time when Zakk was a new guy. Jake E. Lee was a new guy. Randy Rhoads was a new guy. Give him a chance; just check him out. Don't expect Zakk, because he ain't Zakk."

On his son Jack's upcoming documentary on Ozzy:

"I said 'Jack, don't just do things that make me look like a fuckin' saint. I'm not a saint.' Because, you know, you see some guy on the biography channel or something, and they'll say how wonderful he is. Well, even Jesus Christ wasn't always wonderful. Isn't there one time when he goes 'Fuck, I don't feel like giving a speech on this mountain?'"

Read the entire interview from Goldmine magazine.

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COMMENT |
posted by : HarryBulsacSuxMaidenRules
6/16/2010 6:47:17 PM

"Well, even Jesus Christ wasn't always wonderful. Isn't there one time when he goes 'Fuck, I don't feel like giving a speech on this mountain?'"
"

Ha ha! Perhaps.

COMMENT |
posted by : ozzillusion
6/16/2010 6:50:29 PM

very good interview!

COMMENT | The one and only
posted by : ozzycooper
6/16/2010 6:50:59 PM

Listen to Oz, not Sharon for the real story. Never claimed to be anything more than a lucky guy with an amazing gig. Al of you who keep saying he sucks, he sold out, he's old, you are preaching to the choir. Ozzy knows he's lucky and Ozzy appreciates it. He Loves what he does and according to album, merch, concert and other sales so do a hell of a lot of people.

Ozzy is Ozzy, not the "Prince of Darkness" not "The Legend", just Ozzy, a fucking great entertainer with a very impressive back catalogue. Ozzy Zig...Singer for Hire.


COMMENT | ozzycooper
posted by : HarryBulsacSuxMaidenRules
6/16/2010 6:55:05 PM

Fair enough.

COMMENT |
posted by : THRASHMONGER
6/16/2010 6:58:39 PM

Yeah, I never broke up with a buncha girlfriends either, they just got replaced and eventually figured it out for themselves.

Fuck Shozzy for putting the brakes on Sabbath.

COMMENT | clubs
posted by : laggerlugger
6/16/2010 7:17:37 PM

I am sure he doesn't know this but the clubs that bands of yeaterday and today play at can hold can hold up 2,000 or more people.yea not the stadiums of yesterday but not the small nieghberhood bars he is thinkingf of. and while Journey may not be selling out 100,000 seat stadiums I can assure him they are not playing bars. and yea I liked Journey so sue me,they may not be metal but they made some damn good music.

COMMENT | Ozzy/Zakk
posted by : RiotAct666
6/16/2010 7:41:40 PM

Ozzy has a point there, if he never fired Zakk. then he didn't do it. So don't blame him for the reason ZW isn't playing anymore with Ozz. perhaps sometime in the future they could reunite.

COMMENT |
posted by : MrEplayR
6/16/2010 7:51:14 PM

You may have not fired Zakk, but your bitch of a wife $haron did! Got too expensive to keep paying! So you fired your veteran guitar player, and bring in a young six slinger on the cheap!

If he had lived, eventually the same would have been done to Randy as well!


COMMENT | SUNSET TOWER CLOSED IN 2006
posted by : KISS1978
6/16/2010 8:10:16 PM

From 1960 until 2006, Tower also operated retail stores in the United States, which closed when Tower Records filed for bankruptcy and liquidation.

GREAT STORY

COMMENT |
posted by : PraetorianGuard
6/16/2010 8:21:01 PM

Oh poor Ozzy, can't play bars, boo fuckin hoo.

Everybody plays bars at some point and personally I'd rather play my own songs in bars till i drop dead than paying professional songwriters to make the art for me while i'm being my money grabbing wife's bitch.

COMMENT | Ozzy
posted by : born1972
6/16/2010 8:29:08 PM

Scream: not that good.

About the record industry: he is right on that point

About his logevity: he is a legend and some people (not me) will buy his records anyway no matter how worse they are

About Zakk: he is right about his band became Zakk side project the same way it used to be the Daisley/Rhoads project years ago

COMMENT |
posted by : enkiel
6/16/2010 9:00:33 PM

I heard the material for this album was already written when Gus came in. I want to hear an Ozzy album with Gus writing and performing the music. I bet it would kickass and be heavier than the past couple efforts have been. Probably more of an old school sound, less contemporary and radio ready.

BTW Always liked how down to earth Ozzy has been.

COMMENT |
posted by : OmegaDog
6/16/2010 9:07:17 PM

You know, get him away from Sharon for a while, and Ozzy seems like a very genuine, nice guy, and not nearly as dumb as he comes off on stupid TV shows, or when she's sitting there talking for him. (Reminds me of my 80-year-old aunt and uncle--call 'em up, and she's in the background bitching at him and telling him what to say). But I totally don't get the whole "I never fired Zakk" bit. You didn't fire him, but he certainly seems to think so (see interview from late last summer where he works himself into a rage over it), and he's no tplaying on your new album, somebody else is. It's semantics: he wasn't fired, he was let go, or temporarily laid off. Only you can't call it a layoff, because you immediately filled the vacant position.

COMMENT |
posted by : Rob Onez
6/16/2010 9:25:09 PM

"..I Never Fired ZAKK WYLDE .."

LOL! Yeah right.

COMMENT |
posted by : Dudemanbro'
6/16/2010 9:50:30 PM

Ozzy had Black Label Society on nearly every Ozzfest bill. It seemed like they were happily co-existing.

Zakk found out he got fired through the press. Very low Ozzy.

COMMENT |
posted by : Angrysun
6/16/2010 10:47:08 PM

Ozzy, I love your early albums but you're an idiot!

COMMENT | Ozzy's right...
posted by : Presidentyomama
6/16/2010 11:48:03 PM

It took almost 5 years for him to complete down to eartch, because Zakk was constantly touring with his side projects. I like Zakks earlier albums, the first two albums were great, after that he became a very lazy player. His solo's all sound alike, and his sound is so over processed it doesn't even sound like guitar anymore. I cringe each time I hear him butcher classics like Crazy Train, I Don't Know, Flying High Again.

Randy Rhoads wasn't just a phenominal soloist, he had awesome tone, excellent sense of rythym and was loud as hell. He didn't have to dick around with 8 thousand different pedals. He just knew how to play. Zakk is no Randy Rhoads, he's not even a Jake E. Lee. I don't blame Ozzy for giving somebody else a chance, especially when Zakk just wasn't creative anymore.

COMMENT | I never fired Zakk
posted by : franz84ts
6/17/2010 12:01:05 AM

And I never sued Tony, it's just that we had his money and mine, and I wanted his money to become mine.

Oh, btw
I never took drugs.
I just had my blood and those substances, and I wanted to replace the first with the latter.

COMMENT | This is how it went...
posted by : TrashedandScattered
6/17/2010 12:04:51 AM

Sharon - "Ozzy, that Zakk is starting to sound a bit derivative and is bringing nothing to the table, right hon?"

Ozzy - "Eh?"

Sharon - "So Ozzy, if you want to stay relevant you have to crack an egg or two, do you know what I'm saying?"

Ozzy - "Huh?"

Sharon - "So, Zakk's playing has just gotten to become too much for our direction and we need to seek a new direction. Something that will be played on the radio. Tell Zakk goodbye."

Ozzy - "Wha?"

COMMENT |
posted by : NoneBuriedDeeper
6/17/2010 12:07:10 AM

Ozzy has no clue of what goes on around him. Sharon pulls the strings, Ozzy moves. Funny thing is Journey plays to more people with a small Philpino man singing than Ozzy does at this point. That Journey singer does kick ass but looking at him while he sings makes my brain hurt.

COMMENT | ozzy ruled
posted by : Ungrateful
6/17/2010 3:41:10 AM

but he aint that good anymore. and the new album kind of sucks. no soul in it at all.

COMMENT | new cd........
posted by : blsrob
6/17/2010 4:29:32 AM

Sucks ass!!!!!!! Heard it yesterday and Ozzy says sounding too much like BLS was his problem?

Give Ozzy's new cd a spin and decide for yourself....Zakk was clearly the only one writing the music on the cds and this new one is all over the map....horrible!!!!!

The new BLS cd will eat up and spit out the new Ozzy cd!!!!!! Soul Sucka...more like Ozzy sucka

COMMENT | LAV
posted by : ForRealHMfan
6/17/2010 5:16:01 AM

The thing about Jorn Lande, where can i read about that?
That must be a joke.



COMMENT | Amazing.
posted by : ForRealHMfan
6/17/2010 5:17:22 AM

Does the new Ozzy suck, it can't be worse than "Black rain"

COMMENT |
posted by : polkatulk
6/17/2010 5:22:49 AM

The new album is the best album since "No More Tears". Will be the best album of the year. There are no bad song, much better than "Black Rain".

COMMENT | LAV
posted by : robato
6/17/2010 7:33:41 AM

cauliflower??? Whats wrong with putting that in your body? Unless you are sticking it up your ass, I don't know it can be bad to put cauliflower in your body.

COMMENT | LaggerLug
posted by : Artist 4merly known as BSlash
6/17/2010 8:00:12 AM

of course you like Journey, that fitting, in keeping with your lust of fluff, but that's ok. Its all preference. And to your delight, Journey has defied all odds and actually are sort of big again, with a new singer! weird story. So they are out of the clubs!...

I think Ozzy was just making a point, he used Journey as an example. Though up til the Sopranos put them on the map again, they were pretty down & out, they'd play sheds with a whole slew of other middle of the road 80's bands, Night Ranger, Styx, pop bubblegum rock that you dig....you are passionate though Lagger, you get fired up if someone, even Ozzy, makes an off hand comment about one of your bands. Get the lighters out for another ballad!

COMMENT |
posted by : Grapenutz
6/17/2010 8:20:59 AM

So, Zakk didn't quit and wasn't fired. Yet, he isn't there any more. The only way I can imagine this happening is if no one ever called the poor guy, which would make sense. No thank you, no apology, nothing.

This interview is not very different from all the other interviews, which seem very carefully scripted and always say the same thing. Sharon gets her fair share of the blame on here, but this guy is just as bad as she is, make no mistake. They're in it together.

COMMENT | presidentyomama
posted by : bringbackacidbath
6/17/2010 8:38:58 AM

First off, good name. But you are completely wrong in your assessment of Down To Earth and Zakk's role in it.

Zakk was not part of Ozzy's band when he started working on that album. He was brought in at the last minute when the music was already written and Joe Holmes apparently wasn't living up to expectations. They called Zakk to bail them out and this is well documented.

And if Zakk wasn't fired, then why did he go off on that belligerent cursing rant on the radio station interview when he found out he was fired.

COMMENT | new ozzy............
posted by : blsrob
6/17/2010 8:50:19 AM

cd sucks shit!!!!!!!!

Downloaded yesterday and deleted it today after listening to it!!!!

ZAKK WYLDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : NugMidsShwag
6/17/2010 9:36:43 AM

I just listened to the album FUCK DOES IT SUCK!

IT MAKES BLACK RAIN LOOK LIKE DIARY OF A MADMAN

COMMENT | radio take over
posted by : Artist 4merly known as BSlash
6/17/2010 10:23:08 AM

Ozzy just played a good portion in an interview on the radio, its just formulated crap. Some techincally good guitar work, or course, but talk about shoe horning solos in that completely don't fit the song just to show off tricks...I think Ozzy's been that way since the mid 80's though.

COMMENT | Hypocrites
posted by : poppop13
6/17/2010 1:20:47 PM

All of you people who are on the "zakk" bandwagon make no sense! First you say that the whole album was written by Zakk before Gus G came in.... and then you say that the album sucks because Zakk wasn't on it! Your miserable either way! If things are sooo terribly bad, then why is Black Label Society allowing themselves to play Ozzfest this year? You guys make drama out of nothing, and you pounce on any chance you get to bash Ozzy...

COMMENT | poppop13
posted by : Artist 4merly known as BSlash
6/17/2010 1:55:23 PM

zakk, gus, who ever, at 62, Ozzy's not going to produce a great album anymore. he's old.

COMMENT | hey hypo
posted by : blsrob
6/18/2010 4:51:31 AM

You are an idiot!!!!!

I am no Zakk bandwagon jumper as you call it...had the name blsrob since BLS formed!

Have you listened to the ned cd yet? If not, don't make stupid comments until you do and trust me, it sucks!!!!

Zakk is doing Ozzfest because Sharon probably begged him to do it because after they find out how shit Ozzy is without him, they will ask Zakk to pull double duty for Ozzy again!!!! If that does not happen, all about the dollars and promote his way better CD when it is out!!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : killerv
6/22/2010 5:03:56 AM

My personal opinion is that Zakk was about the only thing left making people want to see Ozzy, letting him go or "not calling him to tell him he has been replaced" will be the nail in Ozzy's coffin. He better get back with Black Sabbath, that will be the only way to redeem himself after this fiasco.



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