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ZAKK WYLDE Weighs In On ROLLING STONE's 'Top Guitarists' List
- Jan. 9, 2004
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OZZY OSBOURNE guitarist Zakk Wylde recently spoke to Sleaze Grinder about Rolling Stone magazine's much-criticized list of the 100 greatest guitarists of all time. "Put it this way," Wylde began. "When Eddie Van Halen is number 70 and Randy Rhoads is number 85, I mean, bottom line is I have to play Randy Rhoads' shit every night. I idolize Randy Rhoads. I still got posters of Randy Rhoads in my garage right now, in my weight room. I carry them on the bus. I love Randy Rhoads to death man, so I mean, the whole thing is just like, I've got to play Randy's shit every night. Last time I checked, Joan Jett can't play fucking 'Mr. Crowley', you know what I'm saying? "You've got to laugh at the thing," Wylde continued. "I mean, Joe Satriani isn't in there. Steve Vai isn't in there. Yngwie Malmsteen isn't in that fucking list. Slash isn't in there. They are some of the sickest guitar players that have ever walked this planet. I mean, I'm a guitar player. Do you know how good fucking Yngwie is? It's beyond fucking sick. The fact that Yngwie isn't in it is just fucking mind-boggling to me. People can say what they want about Yngwie, but it's just like naming the 10 greatest singers of all time and not putting Pavarotti in it, you know what I'm saying? Yngwie is a virtuoso. "Obviously Jimi Hendrix is going to be the patron son of guitar, like Babe Ruth. No matter who hits more home runs than The Babe, The Babe is going to be, you know, The Babe. But the thing is, Jimi Hendrix couldn't play 'Spanish Fly' or 'Eruption'. Technically. I'm telling you. Flat out. Just couldn't do it. Jimi got a bunch of gear that nobody ever had before, you know what I am saying? So, he was able to do it before anyone else, and I understand that, but Eddie brought it to a whole other level technically. "As far as I'm concerned, Eddie Van Halen should be number one. And then Randy Rhoads would have to be in the top three or top five. He'd have to be." Read the rest of the interview here.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
1/9/2004 2:35:33 PM
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Too bad I didn't see Zakk Wylde on this list. He could have been in the top 30, at least.
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COMMENT | Right On Zakk...
posted by :
1/9/2004 2:38:58 PM
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Rolling Stone sucks!
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COMMENT | Ok whatever
posted by : R@ttlesn@ke
1/9/2004 2:45:02 PM
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This list is an absolute joke. KURT COBAIN?? In the TOP 20??!!
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COMMENT | Intelligent words from Zakk
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 2:49:01 PM
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This is one of his most intelligent comments on a given subject. He nailed it on this and he too should be on this list because the fucker can shred.
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COMMENT | Go Zakk!
posted by : Scot the Hoople
1/9/2004 2:49:35 PM
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Testify, brother! I, too, idolize Randy, even after all these years. He's the reason I play guitar (him and Ace Frehley).
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COMMENT | Did Hellen Keller select this list?
posted by :
1/9/2004 2:49:55 PM
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Where is Zak, Michael Schenker, John Petrucci,Dave meneketti, Chris Oliva, Al Petrelli, Frank Marino, Robin Trower...or any real guitarist who hasn't sold out to mainstream or isn't related to someone @ Rolling Stone. I suck, and I play better than half the cats/chick (Joan Jett???) on the list. Just goes to show, kids...there is no Truth in media!!!
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COMMENT | this list should be used as toilet paper.
posted by : EyeForAnEye
1/9/2004 2:54:26 PM
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Jack White at #17? He should have a fucking cattle prod rammed up his ass.
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COMMENT | Rolling Stone is fucking pathetic
posted by : SLjimbolian
1/9/2004 3:02:27 PM
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They obviously got a staff full of retards, they should sack everyone and hire someone who knows the damn music.
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COMMENT | wow
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:13:06 PM
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hell must have frozen over because i actually agree with Zakk on this one.
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COMMENT | agreed...
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:19:14 PM
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well said Zakk my brother....
One of the best comment's i ever heard was "fucking joan jett couldn't play mr. crowley"
Last time i browsed a rolling stone was maybe 5 yrs ago?
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COMMENT | What about hmmmmmmmm?????
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:20:07 PM
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Glen Tipton,Alex Lifeson,James Murphy,Andes Segovia,Clet Atkins,David Gilmore,the dude from weezer{hahahaha just joshin},Trey from morbidangel???,kurt cobain{hahaha kiddin agian},Tony McAlpine,Dimebag Darrell,Chris Poland etc!etc!etc! even Zack!!!!!!No shit ~FUCK THE MEDIA!!!!!!ROLLING STONE IS FOR TRENDY FOLKS WHO DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MUSIC IS REALLY ABOUT-IT'S ALL A BUNCH OF SUIT N TIE BOB SEGER,KID ROCK FANS WHO DON'T KNOW DICK!!!!
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COMMENT | yep
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:22:27 PM
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He's correct.
But that's OK, I lost interest in Rolling Stone when they enjoyed St. Agner.
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COMMENT | Why do people even worry about stupid lists?
posted by : biggusdickus
1/9/2004 3:23:39 PM
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What a waste of energy.
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COMMENT | #16: JOHNNY FUCKING RAMONE
posted by : A Gruesome Discovery
1/9/2004 3:24:16 PM
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I like the Ramones and everything, but come on, as musicians they're fucking terrible.
Also, Tom Morello is the most over-fucking-rated guitarist ever. Yeah he makes crazy far-out sounds, but he can't fucking play anything outside of the power chord or minor pentatonic stuff. I also have a SmallStone Phaser by Electroharmonix, put me on the fucking list. Somewhere above Johnny Ramone, please.
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COMMENT | here we go again..
posted by : Melonhead
1/9/2004 3:24:29 PM
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100 posts coming this way !
TOLD YOU SLASH SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THE LIST !
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COMMENT | that list is pathetic and R.S. sucks
posted by : dethryde
1/9/2004 3:24:40 PM
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while i know they are trying to cover all genres of music, they missed some big rock/metal guitarists.
Besides Zakk and who he mentioned, what about:
Dave Mustaine, Alex Skolnick,
Vito Bratta, Steve Clark, CC Deville (no glam slams, he was good in his day), Jerry Cantrell, Adrian Smith, Rocky George, Mick Mars, Max Cavalera, Jon Schaffer, and dare I throw in black metal, Ishan, Abbath, Fenriz. The list could go forever I'm sure, but there were definite oversites, but hey it's a mainstream/trend magazine, we shouldn't expect a "good" list.
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COMMENT | thank you zakk
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:30:19 PM
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you are dead-on, man! randy rhoads rules!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:33:34 PM
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yngwie deserves to be in that list. as well as
marty friedman, alex skolnick, dave mustaine, and the judas priest duo, kk and glenn
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COMMENT | I'm not really a Zakk Wylde fan...
posted by : the Dude
1/9/2004 3:35:25 PM
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...but I have to agree with what he said here, 100%. Nice to see someone else (ARDY) recognize Tony Macalpine for the fretboard genius that he is. Tony would be in my top 5 of all time for sure. And don't forget Vinnie Moore!!!
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COMMENT | Zakk is right
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:38:13 PM
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he should have been on this list, just like slash, vai and satriani.
Yngwie is amazing but for a reason I do not know nobody notice that it seems.
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COMMENT | yeah.....this is fuckin' hilarious...
posted by : brickshithouse
1/9/2004 3:40:02 PM
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Bwhahahaha...joan jett....? Johnny Ramone....? Fuckin' Cobain.....!!!
yeah...they're all better 'guitar players' than:
Satch
Vai
Di Meola
Segovia
Legg
Malmsteen...
I need a good laugh...
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COMMENT | "the Dude" is GAY
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 3:40:27 PM
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I say JERRY CANTRELL SHOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP 10
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COMMENT | uh...
posted by : brickshithouse
1/9/2004 3:41:02 PM
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*needed* a good laugh...
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COMMENT | what the ???????
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:42:59 PM
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didnt know Kurt Cobain was better than Mustaine, and everyone else for that matter,
did he actually play more than just 3 or 4 power cords ?? i guess i missed something here
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COMMENT | There is NO DOUBT.......
posted by : DrumGuy
1/9/2004 3:44:24 PM
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EVH changed the way guitar is played. There has never been a player on any instrument that changed the landscape of their respective instrument.
He totally has my vote for being #1.
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COMMENT | Hey Dude...
posted by : brickshithouse
1/9/2004 3:44:44 PM
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Have you seen the new Vai dvd with MacAlpine?
Awesome stuff right there...they make it look so easy and effortless...Vai gets a little dramatic but holy christ is he good...
Vinnie Moore...I'll have to bust out Mind's Eye...it's been years...
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COMMENT | yep
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:46:23 PM
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Rik Emmett.
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COMMENT | Stupid Lists....
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:51:44 PM
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...For Stupid People
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COMMENT | Joan Jett???????
posted by : Mother Mercury
1/9/2004 3:56:57 PM
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And no Lita Ford? Lita played lead guitar in the Runaways while joan was only rythm guitarist. Go Figure!!!
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COMMENT | I think EVH SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 3:57:04 PM
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WAY OVER RATED PRICK !!!!!
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COMMENT | I Love Joan Jett...
posted by :
1/9/2004 3:57:22 PM
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...and the Ramones, but neither Joan nor Johnny will ever be mistaken for "great guitarists."
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COMMENT | Well...
posted by :
1/9/2004 4:09:31 PM
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Gonna have to agree with Zakk, of course. But I don't understand why so many people care about lists. If Rolling Stone wanted to do an accurate list, they shoulda looked away from the media. No one has mentioned Michael Angelo either...he would deserve a top 20 as well.
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COMMENT | Christ
posted by :
1/9/2004 4:12:14 PM
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I tried to like the 'new' Rolling Stone. Somewhere between the monthly Britney Spears and White Stripes stories, there was a decent article or two. But now this magazine has proved that not only do they know nothing about current music, but they know nothing about music at all whether it be old or new. A magazine with that much control should not be spewing out such bullshit issue after issue. Hell, Rolling Stone puts the 'issue' in 'tissue' when I'm wiping my ass with Jack White's face.
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COMMENT | What'd you expect
posted by : horrorbiz13
1/9/2004 4:15:19 PM
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Rolling Stone don't know shit. Even if so, how can you ever compile an objective list on this kind of subject? What's the criteria to be considered one of the "greatest"?
Oh, and I have to disagree with Zakk on one thing. I'd put Randy before Eddie.
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COMMENT | the white stripes...
posted by : xxxx
1/9/2004 4:15:20 PM
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FUCK JACK WHITE! FUCK THE WHITE STRIPES! FUCK ROLLING STONE!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | I DON'T BELIEVE what I just read
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 4:15:57 PM
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Hey MOTHERFUCKER!!! EVH sucks???? Please elaborate (this ought to be good) because you must understand that thems fightin' words.
Eddie influenced a whole fucking shitload of guitar players and completely revolutionized guitar playing as well as the guitar itself.
You, sir, are an imbecile.
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COMMENT | lol @ Rolling Joke
posted by :
1/9/2004 4:20:24 PM
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Amen Zakk! preach it brother! \m/
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COMMENT | Fuck Rolling Stone
posted by : homesick
1/9/2004 4:23:39 PM
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I totally agree with Zakk.
And its the same with any magazine and award given out there. Bunch of corporate assholes.
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COMMENT | SATANICO HAS SPOKEN
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 4:28:10 PM
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THAT'S WHAT I MEANY BY EVH SUCKS, speed means shit !!!!!!
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COMMENT | meant....
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 4:29:03 PM
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call larz !!!!!
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COMMENT | WHERE IS....
posted by :
1/9/2004 4:35:52 PM
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ACE FREHLEY???!?!?!?!
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COMMENT | What is with these people???
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 4:36:36 PM
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SATANICO, you too, sir, are an imbecile.
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COMMENT | The best guitarist is....
posted by : biggusdickus
1/9/2004 4:39:12 PM
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whoever I think it is. I don't need RS or anyone on this thread to tell me who is better than who and niether should anyone else here.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
1/9/2004 4:40:56 PM
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Well, at least EVH had style and melody, more than that Swedish fuck with a name no-one can spell or pronounce. But I agree, Jerry Cantrell KICKS ASS over all those wankers. He'll touch people in 100 yrs, AND YNGWIE WONT!
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COMMENT | Holy Shit.......
posted by : DrumGuy
1/9/2004 4:45:14 PM
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When has EVH EVER been called a "speed" player???????
It is true that Jazz players can run rings around most others however, there is a HUGE difference in music that most here seem to forget...it's called GENRES....You see, a GREAT jazz player is just that, a great JAZZ player. You must understand, it's all about the FEEL. Any schooled musician or any musician that just stays within one genre is naturally going to excel at what they do given the proper time. Trying to compare players across genres is like comparing white and black. It's IMPOSSIBLE. That's what makes lists all the more funny. Shame some don't see that.
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COMMENT | biggus
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 4:49:45 PM
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Damn good point. Don't forget (I'm guessing here) that a good amount of the posters here, on this thread in particular, are guitar players (including myself). And, if I'm not mistaken, most of us are hard rock/heavy metal players (throw in some blues, jazz, punk). We gotta bitch about this because they've excluded some meaningful musicians in my opinion. I think that's what this all about.
What I REALLY want to know is whether or not SATANICO and MOTHERFUCKER can play the instrument...as well as their ages.
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COMMENT | Oh Yea,
posted by : DrumGuy
1/9/2004 4:53:59 PM
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Before you attack me for the "a GREAT jazz player is just that, a great JAZZ player. " comment, I realize they can play more than just Jazz. My point was that ....well, nevermind.
Bit of Info........most "pure" jazz musicians detest any music other than their form. To them, rock/metal players are the lowest form of musician.
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COMMENT | am older than you think...(im not a snotty 13 year old kid)
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 4:58:46 PM
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do you know paco de lucia? (if you don't shame on you)
HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO READ A SINGLE NOTE !
he picked up a guitar when he was a kid and became his own teacher...
What do I mean by this little story?
I can play, I can play but like paco, I can't read a single note either, but I can hear a tune and after a while I can reproduce the same sound, I'm a composer too, I m not as good as Paco is, but the man has soul,all YNGWEI did was learn everything by heart and try to play as fast as you can...and it shows you feel you are listening to a robot play and not a human being !!!
EVH has more style but he has no heart
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COMMENT | and when I mean composer ...
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 5:01:18 PM
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it's all in my head !!!!!! I record everything before I forget...
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COMMENT | Im not kissing my own ass either...
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 5:03:48 PM
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Compared to Paco I suck !!!!!!
But paco Kicks Ingwie's ass !!!!!!
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COMMENT | Satanico you Rule
posted by :
1/9/2004 5:07:01 PM
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The Jazz comments are right on...This list had more to do with influence than anything else. Yes Satriani, Vie etc are good, but what have they done over the influence of music. RS top 100 took that as a factor more than anything, Not everyone agrees with the list but it is pretty fair.
By the Way I have seen Keith Richards, Trey Anastasio, Zakk Wylde, Jimmy Page, Jerry Garcia, Dickie Betts...The list goes on and I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE IMPRESSED WITH A GUITAR PLAYER THAN WHEN I SAW JACK WHITE. It does not show on the WS albums, but this guy can play a guitar like no other. Check him out live if you can. My jaw was on the Ground the whole time.
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COMMENT | No......
posted by : DrumGuy
1/9/2004 5:08:48 PM
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Actually what Malmsteen did was rip off Paganinni (classical violinist)
However, he did with 4 fingers and a pick what was done with 4 fingers and a bow. He is an incredible guitar player despite the material he produces/reproduces.
As far as EVH having no heart??? You have to be kidding.......
Oh yea, by the way.....EVH can't read either. Being able to read does not classify one as a musician.
Paco? Yup, know who he is very well and it's admirable that you have become "your own teacher" or self-taught as it were, but please, if you're going to take on someone like EVH have your facts straight. Better yet, ask ANY musician for their opinion on EVH and I bet that at least 98% will disagree with you.
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COMMENT | Cobain better then EVH Please?
posted by :
1/9/2004 5:13:06 PM
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Eddie Van Halen doesnt just have speed he can right a rip better then the romoans or kurt cobain people who have the nerve to say that should be shot in the fucking head. Some of you people once again proved to me you dont know what the fuck you are talking about! And Zakk is awsome this guy is a true guitar player and i can t wait for a bls tour cause his band kicks major fucking ass!
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COMMENT | I don't give a fuck if 98 % disagree with me
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 5:14:25 PM
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It's my opinion and no one else's.
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COMMENT | 2 cents..
posted by : NovembersDirge
1/9/2004 5:15:31 PM
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Alright, firstly, Satanico to some extent what you say is true, however, I would argue that a lot of guitarists (such as Yngwie) are far more versatile than you give them credit for. Malmsteen, whether you like him or not (I certainly don't), is one of the best guitarists in the world without question. Whether Zakk Wylde belongs there, I think not, Hendrix? I dunno, Hendrix really didn't know how to play, but he did cool shit.. I just think when you're talking about the "best" you should be talking about "technical skill" not who "played for the song." Kurt Cobain was a shitty guitar player. He wrote catchy songs, does that make him a good guitar player? That made him a pop writer.
Real guitar players play for technical aspects of music, including Jazz and Classical players.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
1/9/2004 5:15:47 PM
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Oooh! Now we're getting into the "who can wank better" debate, which means that if you can play Yngwie licks in your bedroom better than I can, then you know more about guitar playing than I do. I remember THAT particular fucking debate, 20 years ago when I was in HS (there's the answer to yer second question!)
Part of my point was that A). A lot of what constitutes "skill" for metalheads = sheer wankery, and B). It's pretty funny getting upset because yer fave wanker isnt on the list when if it were objective THERE WOULD BE PRACTICALLY NO ROCK GUITARISTS INCLUDED. For example, I've been to Spain and they have AMAZING fucking classical guitarists that blow away 99% of rock players but they dont get included in RS mag because if yer not popular in the US, they dont even consider yer ass to be worthy of consideration.
OK, so its about genre? Fair enough--RS is NOT A METAL MAG, so they only have about 50 metal guitarists on their list instead of 400. If yer so hot for lists, get yer favorite metal mag to make yer own list and bitch about that. What do you expect from RS anyway???
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COMMENT | DrumGuy & SATANICO
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 5:16:06 PM
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Hah! That was funny, dude. Doesn't Skolnick feel that way about his past??? I remember reading that somewhere.
SATANICO, just show a little respect for a musician that is superb at his craft. He's influenced me and a LOT of others.
Although I DO find his music repetitive now, his first solo effort/outing was fucking kick ass. That's why I take exception to unkind remarks about people that have influenced me positively and have made me a better player than I would have been otherwise.
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COMMENT | THE MOTHERFUCKER
posted by : NovembersDirge
1/9/2004 5:17:42 PM
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Great, it's your opinion. However, some opinions are educated and some are not.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
1/9/2004 5:19:32 PM
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you know who has fuckin speed but plays with no emotion? quirk hamster. yeah, and he got into the fuckin list.
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COMMENT | [shakes head in disgust]
posted by : slaytanigrind
1/9/2004 5:19:45 PM
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1) Like MTV, Rolling Stone is no longer about music. Music is merely a small sidebar to what the magazine is really about, pop culture and what's fashionalbe at the time. Rolling stone has no more business compiling a 'top 100 guitarists' list than the people who put together the sale fliers for the department stores in your local shopping mall. They're out of touch with music and have no idea. Wasn't the list supposed to be the 100 TOP GUITARISTS? What exactly was the criteria used to define 'TOP'? I can read. It didn't say most popular guitarists. (I.E. Jimmy Hendrix, no disrespect intended) It didn't say most fashionalbe guitarists. (Jack White) It didn't say the guitarists who've sold the most records. (I.E. Kurt Cobain) HOW THE HELL DID THESE PEOPLE COMPILE THIS LIST? Shouldn't Top=Best?
2)What the hell are you smoking 'El Satanico Dr. Cadillac'? Do you even play guitar? I hate Yngwie Malmsteen's music. It just doesn't do much for me, but he IS a good guitar player, and isn't that what the list is about? I like the Ramones, but none of them were very good at their instruments. The list wasn't called 'Top 100 guitarists that had the biggest impact on pop culture'. Maybe it should've been? And...speed does = skill. Speed is a part of skill. Play a guitar part, anything of your choice, regardless of style or genre. Now, play that same piece 30 BPM faster. IT'S HARDER ISN'T IT. Ability to play BOTH slow AND fast shows skill. You want to talk about elitists, look at your own fucking post! Fuck, you remind me of the narrow minded dumb shits I went to highschool with from the Jazz band. There are so many pretentious Jazz and Blues fans/players who think they're the best ever and everything else sucks. They refuse to give metal or bluegrass or rock or anything else respect. Anyone with half a fucking clue knows there are good and shitty musicians in all styles/genres of music.
As for Zakk Wylde, he's proven he's a talented, skilled, AND versitile player. Do you remember the Ozzy tour where at a certain point in the set, Zakk walked to three parts of the stage, Left, Center, and Right, and played a different style of music at each part of the stage? The fist was classical, the second was country chicken pick'n stuff, and the third was his signature Zakk Wylde harmonic ladden shredd. O, but of coure you wouldn't know that. You're too cool to be at a show like that. A good guitar player knows when to play for the song AND is technically proficient.
El Satanico, you have made a very moronic post. It must be hard to ride on you high horse with you head so far up your ass. Go back to your blick 182 website...or try to fire back at me...either way, the RS list is fucked, and you post speaks for itself. I digress.........
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COMMENT | Im educated...FY
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 5:22:55 PM
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Im going now...nice talking to you fellas !
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COMMENT | oh and... SATANICO IS RIGHT
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 5:24:19 PM
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pretty much right..
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COMMENT | Oops...
posted by : slaytanigrind
1/9/2004 5:26:06 PM
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I should've proof read my post for type-o's before I posted it. *course,*your, and *blink.
There ya go El Satanico. I gave you an easy opportunity to question my intelligence.
Damn type-o's.....
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COMMENT | mattnh
posted by : Scot the Hoople
1/9/2004 5:27:56 PM
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I second your comments about Jack White. I too was impressed by his live performance. Very brave of you to say so on THIS site, however.
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COMMENT | zakk's right
posted by : choke your neighbor
1/9/2004 5:31:31 PM
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when it comes to rock music rolloing stone magazine does not know what they are talking about. but when it comes to shitty ass mainstream pop music they are dead on.
i also agree with drumguy's statement about jazz players. the majority of them are a bunch egotistical pricks. its like if you dont slap or finger your bass then you are not a good bass player. and if you distort your guitar then you are not a good guitarist.
in all, they are great musicians. but they have terrible attitudes.
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COMMENT | Happy Birthday JAMES PATRICK PAGE: #1!
posted by : InThroughTheOutDoor
1/9/2004 5:33:57 PM
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1. J P PAGE
2. RANDY RHOADS
3. YNGWIE J MALMSTEEN
4. E VAN HALEN
...after that Marino, DeMartini, Scholtz (just had close call flying his plane (whew!), Meniketti, Prince, Lifeson, Ace, VVincent, the Irons, Takasaki, and other handful in no particular order
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COMMENT | slaytanigrind, that was...
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 5:38:58 PM
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articulate, thougtful and above all, KICK ASS!!! King Solomon could not have adjudicated more wisely.
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COMMENT | the other thing I don't get is...
posted by :
1/9/2004 5:39:18 PM
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Why in the hell is rhythm guitar playing considered to be inferior? I'm no fan of Joan Jett or Lita Ford, but at least Joan Jett has a cool, chunky, band-driving style, while Lita is a very average lead player. Look at the Stones--out of the 4 guitarists they've ever had, whose the one people will remember in 100 years? Quick, it's Keith, not Brian, Mick, or Woody, but Keith mostly plays rhythm. Can you play a Keith part? Sure you fucking can, but if you replaced Keith in the stones I dont care how good you can wank you would suck because the man has gone rhythm like most white dudes cant comprehend. THAT is a component of skill. Why does Angus Young always say that Malcolm is the real talent of the band??? IT DONT MEAN A THING IF IT AINT GOT THAT SWING, SUCKERS!
(and, "Hendrix just did cool shit
--dude, I've had a guitar teacher who was a classical guitarist who was in fucking awe of Hendrix. Guitarists all over the world in multiple genres acknowledge his talent. You may be able to play his NOTES but you won't be able to play what he played. One of the few guitarists who could was Stevie Ray Vaugn, but he was brilliant, and will be remember long after every bedroom wanker god is forgotten. So why did HE worship Hendrix? Was he stupid... or could he simply hear something that you cant???)
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COMMENT | Fuck pop culture
posted by :
1/9/2004 5:44:49 PM
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How about "people who used their instruments to make GOOD MUSIC that will last forever???" Hendrix did, Yngwie didn't. WYLDE is just talking out of his ass, as usual.
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COMMENT | I will speak for everyone.....
posted by :
1/9/2004 6:01:34 PM
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Anyone who thinks Sissy Deville from{yuck!}poison is a good guitar player should shot in the face~point blank!!!Here's my list:1.}Yngwie Malmsteen,2.}Randy Rhoads,3.}Jimmy Page,4.}Glen Tipton,5.}Richie Blackmore,6.}Andres Segovia,7.}John McGlaughton,8.}Steve Howe,9.}David Gilmore,10.}Milkal Akerfedlt.
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COMMENT | But yes,songwritting should always come 1st!!!
posted by :
1/9/2004 6:05:06 PM
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I can respect a great song ,before a great solo.
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COMMENT | Satanico
posted by :
1/9/2004 6:17:37 PM
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Some questions to hurl upon your wisdom:
1) Do you like classical music? or do you think it is talentless and shit because its not jazz?
2) Have you heard Yngwie Malmsteen playing anything that isn't fast?
3) Are you under the impression that you can play anything that Yngwie Malmsteen couldn't reproduce or better?
5) are you stupid?
I personally know several guitarists who can easily replicate the sound of Jimmy Hendrix, with the one exception that they dont rely on shitty gimmicky noises and they don't play as many mistakes as they do correct notes, many of these have been able to do so since they were in their mid teens. You might tell me that your infinitely superior musical ear would be able to detect the subtle nuances of playing better than mine - a criticism which i might accept had you not demonstrated that you dislike guitarists just because they demonstrate technical ability. As slaytanigrind correctly pointed out - to be able to play fast is a skill. That isn't really refutable. Yngwie can still compose fantastic music, slow and fast, on guitar or for orchestra. He is an amazing musician. Hendrix is as famous as he is because he was new, rebellious and different.
RSVP
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COMMENT | fuck rolling stone
posted by :
1/9/2004 6:23:46 PM
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i walked away from the great american trend-sucker magazine years ago when they started incorporating country and all of the baby-sitting money bands like the new kids.....
here's your current reason to flush rolling stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/features/featuregen.asp?pid=2756
a feature on toby keith, the big time country media sansation.
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COMMENT | I'll say it again...
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 6:23:53 PM
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Just show a little respect. By the tone in your comments and your comments in particular, it would appear to me the YOU are becoming the elitist here.
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COMMENT | This thread has gotten out of hand
posted by : the Dude
1/9/2004 6:24:37 PM
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Too many outragously stupid comments being posted here. Too bad there's not an IQ requirement to post on Blabbermouth. But then, if there was, who would we laugh at? Anyway, saying Malmsteen sucks is the equivalent of just admitting that you're a retard.
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COMMENT | Also.....
posted by :
1/9/2004 6:26:32 PM
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I like some Hendrix.....but he was never that great live.He played out of tune probably more than Kurt Cobain did.And without that fuckin wah~wah pedal he'd of been useless back then.Also,setting a guitar on fire,playing with your teeth is NOT talent!!!Don't get me wrong "band of gypsies" is classic stuff for the song's that is.
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COMMENT | "the Dude" is GAY
posted by : THE MOTHERFUCKER
1/9/2004 6:35:47 PM
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YOU THINK YOU'RE SO COOL AND SMART..
FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARDY, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A KID ...
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COMMENT | So I'm a kid???Sorry but I'm 34!!!
posted by :
1/9/2004 6:40:06 PM
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Geesh!!!,well how old are you motherfucker???Not that I care!!!and how do you know if the Dude is gay???Maybey he must have fucked you in the ass huh???motherfucker???
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COMMENT | Lists are like assholes...
posted by : Green Hell
1/9/2004 6:49:17 PM
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...and many assholes seem to be posting on this subject, so let me another a-hole to join in.
RS is a pop mag- plain and simple. Their list is compiled by people who only know what's popular.
That being said, some of you dorks are making lists of players that only YOU know, and having that be the be-all-end-all. Sorry to break it to most of you, but your knowledge of music is probably about as limited as RS.
Let's break it down plainly and simply. What guitarists are/were the biggest influences in rock? That's easy: Jimi, EVH, Keith Richards and Jimmy Page. You can make the point that Malmsteen is technically better than anyone of these guys and that's fine. But could you honestly tell me than anyone was more influential than Jimi? I think not!! Also, to compare his influence over rock music to Yngay is absurd! Jimi changed the landscape of rock music!!
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COMMENT | Hey MOTHERFUCKER
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 6:52:53 PM
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How old are you and do you even play guitar? Just curious.
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COMMENT | Where to begin?
posted by : R@ttlesn@ke
1/9/2004 6:54:42 PM
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SO many things wrong wit this joke of a list. PETER GREEN of Fleetwood Mac....but NO LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM? Has anyone heard his acoustic version of BIG LOVE?
At least they got Stevie Ray in the top ten, but that hardly makes up for Kurt Cobain and JAck White even being on this stupid worthless list in the first place. I'm almost surprised that Gunnar Nelson was'nt like # 3.
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COMMENT | ok...
posted by : REVOLUTION IS MY NAME
1/9/2004 6:56:44 PM
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any list without Michael Angelo, Malmsteen, Jason Becker, Vai and Stariani is not a guitar list.
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COMMENT | nice pissing contest we have here
posted by :
1/9/2004 7:00:35 PM
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First off, I have to agree with everything slaytanigrind said and disagree with most of what satanico said. And Satanico, if you don't think Vai isn't a fucking awesome guitarist, go check out the guitar duel in the Crossroads (not the Brittany one) movie. And since I mentioned that, Ry Cooder should be in there too. Zakk Wylde has crossed genres, albeit most of them are within rock, but the man CAN play. It doesn't matter if his songs are memorable (which they are), it's if his PLAYING is memorable (which it obviously is). There are tons of great guitarists out there (where is Loomis from Nevermore?). And the one major thing i DO agree with Satanico is: why aren't rhythm guitarists considered great? Granted they arent all doing wankering (are you British?) stuff, but it is the real backbone of any band. I think Mustaine was one of the key people to put an emphasis on being able to be both an amazing rhythm player AND a lead player (where's Chris Poland too?). As far as Johnny Ramone is concerned, he may not be able to play what EVH plays, but I'm not sure if EVH could do what Johnny does (you play one of their songs doing ENTIRELY down strokes). The great thing about it is that both of them are great at what THEY do. And Johnny did all those songs, all downstrokes and all, 4 times faster live than on album, all accurately too. He is not a sloppy player (go ahead, laugh, i dare you)! Having said all of this, who the fuck cares!!!! For all of us who hate one another on this thread there is one thing we ALL agree with: ROLLING STONE SUCKS!!!! Damn, doesn't it suck when we all have one thing in common.
PS - what did the jazz musician say when he won the lottery? He'd keep playing til the money ran out.
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COMMENT | He has a point....
posted by :
1/9/2004 7:02:31 PM
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Rolling Stone is a joke of a music magazine. Hell, I love the Ramones & the White Strips are okay, but I wouldn't go so far to put Jack White on a list of "greatest guitarists ever". Me, my favorite rock/ metal guitarists would probably be (in no particular order):
- Steve Vai
- John Petrucci
- Jimmy Page
- Vinnie Moore
- Jimmy Hendrix (may not be the greatest, but entertaining none the less)
- Page Hamilton
- Dimebag Darrell
- Adrian Belew
- Robert Fripp
- Eddie Van Halen (not a huge Van Halen fan, but the man can play rock music like a mofo)
- Yngwie Malmsteen
- Michael Romeo
- Devin Townsend
- David Gilmour
- Mikael Akerfeldt
- Steven Wilson
- Tony Iommi
..... That's all I can think of for now.
-later
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COMMENT | Green Hell
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
1/9/2004 7:04:44 PM
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I - for one - am a HUGE Jimi fan. I play his music a lot when we have jam sessions in the mountains. So, I agree with you completely. In fact, I staunchly believe that his influence was immeasureable and is still today.
Again, all I'm saying is show a littel respect for Yngwie, man. He too is a HUGE Hendrix fan and love him or hate him, he's an AWESOME guitar player.
Good Night
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COMMENT | EVH can't read music?
posted by : REVOLUTION IS MY NAME
1/9/2004 7:05:24 PM
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You fuckers should really do your research before spurting out facts like you do to the sperm from your balls. Him and his brother both studied in music college. Oh and De Lucia is amazing, im seeing him live in 2 weeks but to say that Yngwie has no talent is just CRZY!! Whoever said that should be dragged out on the street and Killed. Fuck man, a lot of people don't know jack shit. Put Jason Becker on your lists.
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COMMENT | ANDREAS SEGOVIA
posted by : REVOLUTION IS MY NAME
1/9/2004 7:08:02 PM
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Is the most talented guitarist ever; without question. EVER!
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COMMENT |
posted by : johan_rules
1/9/2004 7:12:51 PM
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is the G3 DVD out yet?
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COMMENT | ok if Jack White is so wonderful....
posted by :
1/9/2004 7:13:49 PM
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and writes musics that "moves" people then Scott Lucas from Local H is the second coming. He writes better songs and live Local H blows White Stripes out of the water. But neither of them deserve to be on this list. I'm suprised that Rolling Stone didn't put Jack Black on their list.
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COMMENT | REVOLUTION IS MY NAME is full of it..
posted by : johan_rules
1/9/2004 7:15:30 PM
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Guitar Magazine: How did you learn your vocabulary?
EVH: From piano. I think it's just good ear training. I've always had good ears. Even with the piano, I never really learned how to read. I fooled the teacher. He played for me, and I'd watch his fingers and remember how it was supposed to sound, and the next week I'd come back and know it.
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COMMENT | Who cares?
posted by : Corporate Cadaver
1/9/2004 7:25:01 PM
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Why is Zakk Wylde even bothering with what Rolling Stone do? If any self respecting metalhead/musician/lover of decent music reads Rolling Stone and takes it seriously then they should be drawn and quartered.
We all know who really are the best guitarists and what we like, thats all that fuckin matters.
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COMMENT |
posted by : BlackBehemoth
1/9/2004 7:26:16 PM
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while its good to see Ritchie Blackmore on the list, its a shame he is buried half way.
Its also of note that Zakk didn't say anything about Kirk Hammet being so high up in the list.
Also good to see Mick Ronson on there. Bowies best music was with Ronson.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Super Czar
1/9/2004 7:48:30 PM
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Some people keep insisting on spelling Segovia's name wrong. It's ANDRES, Andreas is a German name, Segovia was from Spain. His protege John Williams (not the same as the guy that did the Star Wars scores) is better in my opinion, for that matter Julian Bream can play just as well on a good day.
Side note: were Uli Jon Roth or either of the Schenkers on the list? I'm sure Buckethead wasn't on there but he should've been.
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COMMENT |
posted by : johan_rules
1/9/2004 7:50:10 PM
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And would you all stop complaining? Who cares about this stupid list? The best guitarist will always be unknown and underappreciated. That's just the way life is. Daniel Gildenlow and Hohan Hallgren aren't on the rolling stone list, boohoohoo...
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COMMENT | Ok Zayk
posted by : coloradorocker
1/9/2004 8:10:44 PM
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You Suck Ass Jimi Would School Your Ass Bitch!!
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COMMENT | He's right.
posted by : Carcass_Own_You7
1/9/2004 8:23:38 PM
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FUCKIN JACK BLACK AT #17!!!!!!! KURT COBAIN!! JOAN JETT!! STUPID FUCKS.
HOW YNGWIE WASN'T AT LEAST IN THE THE TOP 100 AT ALL IS STUPID.
ZAKKS RIGHT ABOUT EVH BEIN THAT LOW BUT C'MON THERE'S BETTER GUITARISTS THAN EVH
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COMMENT | I agree
posted by : slayerrules855
1/9/2004 8:59:06 PM
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Zakk, I couldn't have said it any better myself. Rolling Stone is only interested in what is popular, not talented.
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COMMENT | How bout Micheal Angelo Batio?
posted by :
1/9/2004 8:59:07 PM
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No one even mentioned him, if so, please correct me. That motherfucker is technically and emotionally impressive. Great Jazz/Classical Guitarist. Download the video of a song called "Speed Kills"
Classical Guitar is where its at, and most of those guitarists can play circles around most jazz guitarists. But all that has been said before, its really all about skill and feel. Hendrix, although not technically impressive, was very impressive with the feel he had for his music. Zakk has even said that many times. Without hendrix, there would be no Stevie Ray Vaughan or yngwie. Eddie Van Halen and hendrix did take guitar to a hole new level, if you dont believe that, put your fucking cds and guitars in a pile and burn them. You cant have a top one hundred guitarist in terms of "best" becasue somewhere there is a 15 yr old who can play fucking ten times better than EVH or Hendrix, just waiting to be discovered, and somwhere else there is someone even better than he is. But you can pick a list based on Impact certain artist had on the guitar world. that being said my top picks are
5. Steve Vai
4. Jimi Hendrix
3. Eddie Van Halen
2. Randy Roads
1. Robert Johnson( he was pretty good being as he was around 40 years before hendrix.)
Those are my opinions, which I can back up with stuff I have learned about over the years.
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COMMENT | Just play the guitar!!!!Write and record songs....
posted by :
1/9/2004 10:29:49 PM
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fuck all this "guitar god" bullshit!!!!!!OPETH ARE THE LED ZEP. OF OUR GENERATION.
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COMMENT | I never agree with Zakk
posted by :
1/9/2004 11:31:50 PM
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but this time I 100% agree, the list is pure fuckin bullshit!!!
my list (like anyone cares)
1. Stevie Ray Vaughn
2. Steve Vai
3. Yngie Malmsteen
4. Eric Clapton
5. Eddie Van Halen
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COMMENT | What about Esteban?
posted by :
1/9/2004 11:54:03 PM
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I don't read Rolling Stone, did Esteban make their list? Esteban is by far the most talented living guitarist on the planet. Hands down.
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COMMENT | Revolution is my name.....
posted by : DrumGuy
1/10/2004 12:19:56 AM
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My friend, oops....johan rules beat me to it.
What you also need to know was Eddie was originally a drummer and Alex was a guitar player. Oh wait, more "spurting" of facts again.....and where in the hell did you hear they went to "music college"??? I want to apply....hmmm, Guitar U?? Their athletic programs suck but damn can they make you a good guitar player.
So much for your "facts"...
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COMMENT | WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
posted by : MySisterScarey
1/10/2004 12:31:38 AM
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From RS? They have always been a trend following substitute for toilet paper or cat box filler.
While everyone has thier own list or genre of music that exudes the most talent when bringing up guitar, most mentioned here are WAYYYY more deserving than the RS list and we know it.
Stevie Ray Vaughn, Satch, Vai, Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, Tony Macalpine, Paul Gilbert, Eric Sardinas, Vinnie Moore, Oliva, Rhoads, Rick Nielson, Lynch and EVH..all have thier rightful place in guitar. All played with feeling..
Who was Hendrix's guitar hero? ZZ Top's Billy Gibbons. Was he even on the RS list?
Putting Cobain in the top 20 of any list other than Over rated players is a farce. Just my opinion.
RS will probably include Kelly Osbourne in thier Best Female performers list in front of Tina Turner, Janis Joplin etc..
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COMMENT | kurt cobain would be ashamed
posted by :
1/10/2004 12:53:42 AM
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he himself said he's a crap guitar player and that rolling stone is a peice of shit coperate mag made to pray on the vulnerable
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COMMENT | Holy crap, sarsipius!!!!
posted by : the Dude
1/10/2004 12:55:00 AM
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When I glanced at your post, I first thought it said, "What about Estefan?" As in Gloria Estefan, bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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COMMENT | ZAKK IS 100% RIGHT
posted by : backfromthedead
1/10/2004 12:55:58 AM
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DETHRYDE SAID CC DEVILLE. WHAT A QUEER
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COMMENT | Johan Rules...
posted by : REVOLUTION IS MY NAME
1/10/2004 1:32:52 AM
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that's how Eddie first learnt how to play. Not that it matters but later, him and his brother went to music school. Check out any biography.
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COMMENT | !
posted by : REVOLUTION IS MY NAME
1/10/2004 1:42:03 AM
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Just to tell you guys right now; the two van halen brothers were both classically trained painists in college. So they did know music theory.
http://www.pasadena.edu/about/history/alumni/vanhalen/vanhalen.cfm
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COMMENT | hahahaha!
posted by :
1/10/2004 2:36:51 AM
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1.CRISS OLIVA
2.CRISS OLIVA
3.CRISS OLIVA
4.CRISS OLIVA
5.CRISS OLIVA
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100.CRISS OLIVA
(there's no place for others,never forget him!)
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COMMENT | Whenever I hear Joan Jett's
posted by : Front13
1/10/2004 2:42:09 AM
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"I Love Rock & Roll", I vomit uncontrollably.
Dave Murray should be on that list.
Rock on Zakk!
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COMMENT | super_terrorizer doesn't know what he's talking about
posted by : johan_rules
1/10/2004 2:49:40 AM
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A classical guitarist is someone who plays classical guitar - you know, fingerstyle, PIMA, no picks. A jazz guitarist plays jazz. Michael Angelo does neither.
P.S. I'm not going to even waste time and read your link, REVOLUTION, because I posted a direct quote from grown man (not college student) EVH where he admits to not being able to reed sheet music. He may know theory, but your original statement was that he can READ music, which is false. Now you're trying to back pedal and change your story..
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COMMENT | strange, really.
posted by :
1/10/2004 2:52:37 AM
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i was kind of surprised at ZAKK'S over the top praise for EVH. he obviously has never heard BILLY COBHAM' jazz fusion release called SPECTRUM. I am also surprised that after over 100 hundred posts no one has metioned this release or the guitarist that graces it...TOMMY BOLIN. if you thinking of the TOMMY BOLIN of DEEP PURPLE & JAMES GANG, then yes it the same person, but this relase is a few years before he would join either of those bands and sadly by then the drugs had taken their toll. but back in 1973!! when BOLIN guested on this release he pulls of a solo so similar in sound to EVH'S "eruption" solo you swear he ripped EDDIE off. only one problem the first VH release didn't come out till late 1977, 4 years after BOLIN blew the mind of JEFF BECK, forcing him to rethink his own direction in rock and join the jazz fusion band wagon of 1970's. there are several guitarist from this genre that even YNGWIE sites as major influences, such as AL DIMEOLA & JOHN McLAUGHLIN. so iguess is all subjective really. in other words its all a mater of what you the individual like. the poll said the GREATEST, so i guess that would be how you interpert that word GREATEST. the didn't say fast or most technical or most influental etc... the said greatest. so it s who ever you think is the greatest.
my personal greatest would be a tie actually between BLACKMORE & PAGE for reasons that i could right a book on, but that is for another day. i suggest you all find you selves a copy of COBHAM'S "spectrum" release and become enlightened. it is truly a groundbreaking release in guitar playing.
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COMMENT |
posted by : johan_rules
1/10/2004 2:56:51 AM
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EVH "I NEVER really learned how to read". Can't you read? Reading music doesn't automatically great guitarist. Vice versa, not reading music doesn't automatically disqualify you from being great. Stop grasping, not being able to read sheet music doesn't take away EVH's status as a revolutionary guitarist.
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COMMENT | Rene Zelweeger
posted by : johan_rules
1/10/2004 3:53:37 AM
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is repulsive. No offense to anyone who likes that kind of woman, but just not my taste.
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COMMENT | Criss Oliva
posted by :
1/10/2004 4:05:48 AM
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Zack,have you ever heard of Criss Oliva?How come that you haven't mentioned him?GOD!
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COMMENT | metaluntildeath
posted by : MySisterScarey
1/10/2004 10:15:29 AM
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One addition to that great list..the late Frank Zappa.
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COMMENT | Johan Rules, it is you that doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about.
posted by :
1/10/2004 10:58:57 AM
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I am a a student in classical guitar. I use a pick and my middle finger and my ring finger, not unlike the neo-classical metal movement in the 80's. It is clear you dont know shit about micheal angelo. At 14 he was playing Jazz and by 16 won an award for outstanding Jazz soloist on guitar. I even have lessons where he refers back to jazz and classical theory. Not to mention, his classical theory book on session playing. Just because it doesnt conform to a jazz standard or classical standard, doesnt mean it has no elements of either. He has a hybrid skill, all his own in which he incorporates both of these styles. He is a guitarist from many different elements, dont believe me? his albums prove me right. Maybe you need to brush up on your music study. if that is, you study at all. and, just in case you need to brush up on your micheal angelo knowledge, I have provided a link for some basic things.
http://www.macemusic.com/html/bio_2004.html
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COMMENT | Why the discrimination against the guitar instrumentalist?
posted by : yoadrie
1/10/2004 1:39:31 PM
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You may not care for their style of music, but if GREATEST GUITARIST is the criteria, how can you ignore them in favor of guitiarists who sing? Kobain came in at #12, Iommi at #86? They must have pulled these names out of a hat!
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COMMENT | waiting4exodus
posted by : Front13
1/10/2004 7:31:57 PM
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Don't you mean that you've got a size 14 inch dick up your ass? Go pop some of your zits and quit fantasizing, punk.
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COMMENT | what a joke!
posted by : lungbag
1/10/2004 9:43:19 PM
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zakk totally hit it on the nail. where the hell is zakk,marty freidman,dimebag darrell,or john petrucci? fuck jack white,curt cobain,or the fuckers from sonic youth?
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COMMENT | ...wanker
posted by : johan_rules
1/11/2004 12:27:52 AM
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You're a "classical guitar student, and you use a pick??? You must be getting straight F's.. Because there's absolutely no use of picks in classical guitar. Just P-I-M-A.
I don't need to "brush up on Michael Angelo knowlege" - I have his albums and he doesn't play jazz. I don't like his tastleless, masturbatory, self-indulgent, emotionally bankrupt, repetative style of playing. Give me Jason Becker, Greg Howe, or Vai any over that wanker. He can do some neat tricks with his four-neck quitars, but that's useless showboating. He plays really fast - big deal. Everyone and their mom uses classical theory in
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COMMENT |
posted by : johan_rules
1/11/2004 12:35:47 AM
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their music. At least most shredders do. That's not to say Michael Angelo isn't a good guitarist. Just not the god you paint him to be. And he does NOT play classical guitar (not on speed kills video, not in his albums). And the fact that you think that most classical guitarists can play circles around jazz players (ever heard of fusion) is testament to your immature thinking process. Comparing jazz and classical guitarists is like comparing football with hockey. Although from my personal experience, jazz guitarists are a lot more innovative, versatile and interesting than neo-classical guitarist (though you resent that term reasons beyond me, once again, people who play classical music on electric guitar play neo-classical, "classical guitar" is nylon string, FINGERPICKING)
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COMMENT | actually, johan rules
posted by :
1/11/2004 4:33:04 PM
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I made an A in the class. I know what the fuck PIMA is and Yeah, there are some strict finger-picking only players, but last I checked, guitar wasnt about conformity. Classical music and jazz both represent technicality in guitar playing. Though you are entitled to to your opinion which is better. I never painted MA to be a God. The motherfucker can wail, no doubt about it, but he hardly gets recognition when compared to Yngwie or other shredding guitarist. I said that He INCORPORATES those styles into his music. You may as well be deaf if you cant hear that in his playing. His background is mostly jazz, you can read that on any biography about him. you might as well throw those albums you own out the window if you didnt know that. As I said, brush up. I saw him play an acoustic fingerpicked set in 98, and the classical sound was pretty clear to tell. your entitled to your opinion, but you are still just an asshole with your thinking process just as immature as mine. Most shredding borrows heavily from classical modes and scales, wether they use a pick or not, just depends on what the fuck they want to do. Fingerpicking or not, classical or neoclassical is way harder than jazz or your bebop rock fusion shit. The only reason I even took classical lessons was to blow some local Jazzheads out of the water. Classical Music has made me a better technical guitarist than any of my jazz and rock lessons.
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COMMENT | And I will give you this...
posted by :
1/11/2004 4:40:28 PM
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Al Di Meola, Pat Methany, and CHarlie Hunter are all fucking incredible players. I am by no means insulting Jazz, personally, I just dont think it is the best or hardest music to play. I love listening to and learning from Jazz as I am forever the student. But, I am more in tune with guitarists such as Almedia Laurindo and Tomo Iwakuro, to me, those are two of the best guitarist in the world. And I didnt mean to insult you, it just came out that way.
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COMMENT | oh, and Almedia Laurindo
posted by :
1/11/2004 4:42:34 PM
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was one of the first to blend Jazz and classical guitar.
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COMMENT | re: super terrorizer
posted by : johan_rules
1/12/2004 1:53:05 AM
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It doesn't matter that his background is mostly jazz. He doesn't play jazz. Ever heard of George Bellas? He studied jazz in a music school, but his albums are straight up neoclassical.
And once again, if you think neo-classical shredding "blows away" jazz fusion.. Think again. They're just... different. Fusion focuses more on sick tapping patterns, chromaticism, odd rythm and phrazing, legato, whereas neo-classical is more straightforward. My favorite neoclassical guitarists are Vinnie Moore and Tony MacAlpine - they can do it all, and I think they're better than Michael Angelo. Just my opinion though.
But hey, good luck with your studies. If you can pull of classical with a pick, more power to you. What I was getting at with the PIMA stuff is that by the strict definition, fingerpicking is a major component of classical guitar.
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COMMENT | Well,
posted by :
8/5/2004 5:27:16 PM
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this debate can go on until people are ripping out their eyes, and yelling and bleeding everywhere. But I guess what these lists teach us is that it's impossible to say who the best guitarist is. Cuz everyone elses answer will surely piss you off. I'm in the Yngwie camp myself.
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