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Therapist: JASON NEWSTED Had The Courage To Stand Up To Other Guys In METALLICA
- July 30, 2004
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In a recent interview with The Kansas City Star, METALLICA's former "performance coach" Phil Towle spoke about being present when former METALLICA bassist Jason Newsted told the band he was leaving, though that scene isn't in the METALLICA documentary "Metallica: Some Kind of Monster". Asked how that went down, Towle said, "We'd been sitting around talking for about a half-hour when Jason says to me, 'I want to talk to the guys. Will you excuse me?' So I went into the other room in the suite. I could hear all this pain resonating from the room they were in, and after about 10 minutes, I went back in. Jason says, 'I don't want you in here.' I said, 'I was hired to be here, to work with you guys and your issues, and I can't in good faith stay in the other room.' There was silence. Then Lars says, 'Let him stay.' "They were all jarred so much that a family member for 14 years was leaving for various reasons. They said, 'We gotta do something about this.' Here's what I offered: Rather than invest energy in being pissed at Jason, use this thing to explore the underlying issues of discomfort and conflict that led to his leaving. "In a very dysfunctional family, Jason had the courage to stand up. He was the one who set in motion this process of calling everyone out. I'd read an old interview with METALLICA in Playboy in which the band members separately trashed each other. So now the conflict had come to a head." Towle also spoke about the scene toward the end of "Metallica: Some Kind of Monster" documentary where he and James and Lars get into it over Phil's continued role with the band. Asked what happened there, Towle said, "The band was going through a moment of indecision about whether to continue with me and on what terms. I needed an answer. I said I gotta know because I'm thinking about moving out here. Off camera we had talks about continuing. So I really felt a little ambushed. I felt I'd had one understanding where I'd do it part time to resolve some issues. "But it was also difficult for me to think about leaving. … I was with this one client every day for almost 2 1/2 years. We started with 2- and 3-hour sessions, and then when things heated up as they made the album, I was in the studio every day. I just didn't want to leave the process, the intimacy. And I thought we had a deal in place. But, you know, the thing to come out of that was Lars coming to James' support. That really cemented things between them." Read Phil Towle's entire interview with The Kansas City Star at this location.
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COMMENT | Hmmm
posted by : The Fish that should not be
7/30/2004 5:40:35 AM
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Metallica are dead, unless they produce Master of puppets 2 i wont give a damn about these whining fuckers anymore!
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COMMENT | I cannot say enough bad things about this band.
posted by :
7/30/2004 5:43:14 AM
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I'm sure there are a good 100 of you who will do it for me.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/30/2004 5:55:02 AM
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I love Metallica and I will always miss Jason. Rob is cool but Jason embodied the whole spirit of Metallica, When they lost Jason, They lost something much more...
I will miss Jason's contribution to the band and his fucking awesome bass solos...
:-(
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COMMENT | Re James; "..at no expense to the product".
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:02:33 AM
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Are you fucking kidding me !
What the hell was St Anger all about, opening up the band to possibilities is one thing but writing songs like 'Invisible Kid' is well, it just don't work.
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COMMENT | shit
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:05:10 AM
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they changed the above link to a "register" link , must have been pissed that Bori didn't ask permission!!
Ah well.
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COMMENT |
posted by : hAtE.iNsIdE.yOuR.hEaD.
7/30/2004 6:07:04 AM
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Does this band know the meaning of self respect???????
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COMMENT | HEY JASON RULES...AND WAS THE ONLY CREDIBLE THING ABOUT THEM
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:07:42 AM
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He always had his feet firmly on the ground. JASON IS A METAL BROTHER.
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 6:25:50 AM
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"He always had his feet firmly on the ground. JASON IS A METAL BROTHER." Hmmmm Echobrain and Voivod, HArdly
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:27:26 AM
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come on puppet, forget echobrain and voivod, if you watch binge and purge or even cunning stunts and tell me Jason doesn't rock to his very core!
He kicked ass!
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COMMENT | man
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:30:49 AM
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jason was like a second cliff, and although some say he lacked the energy for tha band, he did a kick ass job while he was there. just look at my friend of mysery. if anyone has seen the "Classic Albums" black album tribute dvd, you'll see just how cool he wrote that riff. if that whole riff had beenin there, it would've been so much different. and i hardly think he was the only credible thing about them. As basic as lars drum beats were, he gave the songs the beats they needed, he didnt show off his skill so he copuld be known as the best drummer of all time, if he had done that they would be true sellouts. kirks lead stuff is awesome, i havnt seen one song of his that has a shit solo in it. james' rhythm is kick ass, it started drifting after black, but before that it was so good. if you have heard them live, ud love em
p.s the whole of st.anger on cd isnt as goof as hearing it live. live they add so much good shit 2 it, and if it had been done like that in the studio, itd b more creditted as a good album
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COMMENT | ALSO LIKE IT OR NOT VOIVOD ARE CYBERMETAL LEGENDS
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:33:37 AM
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They might not be the heaviest shit on earth but they have a million times more credibility than THE MONSTERS! And jason has proved he cares not for the money. He QUIT OZZY! He could have almost any BASS gig on the planet.
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 6:37:50 AM
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Sure Jason Kicks ass, but if people are going to say Jason was the only true Metal god in the band because he left after the loads because he wasn't happy with them and then missed out on St Anger, but yet forget to mention he did do a soft rock cd in Echobrain and turned Voivod into hard rock. It must be said. He has a soft side too
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COMMENT | no title
posted by : FUCKYOU.!.
7/30/2004 6:46:06 AM
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Right Metallica Makes a Album raw and agressive with the most Open-E riffing since MOP and they are gay. Jason goes out making pop music he is METAL!!
lol
mygod metallica bashers continue to amaze me in all their ignorance.
But hey you're all SO COOL...
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COMMENT | puppet138
posted by :
7/30/2004 6:59:32 AM
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Hell man, I aint saying Jason was the only true metal god in Metallica, they ALL are.
And as for soft sides, I personally feel that the BEST metallers have soft sides as well as rock sides, Ozzy for example is soft as shite but he is fucking great, Metallica have soft, Maiden have soft, Lemmy has a soft side (did you know he wrote "mama im comin home"?). The softer side of metal is a time to show some truly great musical skill,
My old drum teacher once told me, "To play slowly requires much more skill than playing fastly, if you play slowly, everyone can hear every note and beat, therefore can easily tell when you make a mistake. If you constantly play fast, you can fuck up loads and no-one can tell the difference!"
I for one, totally agree!
in summary, TRUE HEAVY METAL is so flexible and so totally awesome.
Rock on
Metal up your ass!
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COMMENT | Is that Fred Durst or...
posted by : Tharsher
7/30/2004 7:42:49 AM
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Lar$ wearing a red cap backwards in the pic?
If that is the case, then I declair Lar$ an official Fred Durst -wannabe.
A Master of Puppets 2 would suck, even the original sucked compared the real thrash albums that came before it.
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COMMENT | nailed it..watling
posted by :
7/30/2004 7:43:07 AM
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how can u call stuff like solitude or soldier of fortune...or mama i'm coming home...or nothing else matters bullshit....they r fukin classics
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COMMENT | re: megadeth+metallica=BOGUS
posted by : hAtE.iNsIdE.yOuR.hEaD.
7/30/2004 7:43:12 AM
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Hey dickhead this is the 21st century, we dont say things to peoples faces anymore, we use the internet, get with the times.
Like we could even get within 6' of them anyway.........
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 7:49:00 AM
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"Hey puppet, we r talking about fukkin VoiVod!! You got me???
Did u just find out about them as well???" Do you speak english asshole. I have been listening to voivod for longer than you probably have been alive moron. Yes we are talking about Voivod, thats why I had voivod in my comment. Fucking idiots
"Like we could even get within 6' of them anyway........." Even if you could you still wouldn't have the balls
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 7:51:33 AM
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"Maybe the last album is a bit rocky," Thats what I was referring to. try reading before you open your decayed pie hole. They made a drastic change and is it coincidental that Jason just joined the band. No it's not. They went from a respectable thrash band to a hard rock, maybe metal band. Any person that has heard this cd has said the same thing that Jasons presence in the band downgraded it.
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COMMENT | VOIVOD
posted by :
7/30/2004 8:09:56 AM
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are badass....
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 8:14:11 AM
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Yes they are. Hopefully they can get what they did on their last cd out of their system and stop fantsizing about the metal god they brought over to their band, take hold of their reigns again and get back to work
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COMMENT | Bronzefire
posted by :
7/30/2004 8:23:38 AM
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if you dont give a fuck so much then why post here? at least have a point that goes with your post and not just a "i love metallica i need to support them" rambling.
As for this news bit i mean what a crock of shit, why is it that all this shit is continously rammed down our fucking throats? i thought metallica musicians not reality tv stars......maybe they should focus on making a good album and not making films and books about bollocks, i sure as hell dont want to know about it......but at the end of the day i guess it will sell because it has the all mighty Metallica name on it! and the fact that they like to diversify to make more $$$$$ they lost all credibility with the black album ("we want to make a more radio friendly album" hmm and why would that be $$ maybe?) Bullshit
Anyway im hungover and this is just my rant : )
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/30/2004 8:34:10 AM
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This whole therapy thing is a crock of shit. Why can't bands just get drunk/high and kick some arse anymore?
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COMMENT | Fluff
posted by :
7/30/2004 8:48:58 AM
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Im with you mate, people take them selfs to seriously. Plus (no offence) but where else but America would this happen? a Thrash metal band seeks help from a therapist then make a movie/book about the whole ordeal.......
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COMMENT | Phil Towle's words to live by:
posted by : 0o0o0o01
7/30/2004 9:24:24 AM
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"Make sure to bring a Towle so you don't get all wet."
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COMMENT | Stern
posted by : evilernie
7/30/2004 9:34:44 AM
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Anyone hear Hetfield on Howard Stern this morning? Great stuff!
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COMMENT | They have articles in Playboy?
posted by :
7/30/2004 9:36:57 AM
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I only buy it for the nudies.
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 10:11:44 AM
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Ya. They had a big issue with a few pages of interview where they were talked to alone. They pretty much ripped each other apart. It was quite disturbing and a real eye opener. If I had a scanner, I would scan it in and put it in my soulseek folder, but alas
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COMMENT | HEY!
posted by : Goro
7/30/2004 10:25:46 AM
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Does anyone else get the impression Lars and the therapist were really "close", if you know what I´m saying
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COMMENT | o
posted by : limelight27
7/30/2004 10:34:42 AM
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ya he stood up to them after they gave him the chance of a liftime, they should have picked les claypool hes a much better bassist then him
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COMMENT |
posted by : puppet138
7/30/2004 10:36:46 AM
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They gave Les a chance, but they (Including Les) felt his style didn't match their style
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COMMENT | VoiVod not metal???
posted by :
7/30/2004 10:50:36 AM
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I been a fan of Voivod and Metallica since the 80's , I am an old Metalhead (34) and I have VoiVod's War & Pain album.....
Sounds metal to me :þ here's a pic with me & piggy :) 1990
http://members.rogers.com/inker/voivod.jpg
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COMMENT | DID ANY OF YOU EVEN SEE THE MOVIE...
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:02:47 AM
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that guy wanted to get paid, already getting 40,000 per month. He wanted his time with Metallica to be a fulltime job. He did his thing then had to leave. I dont think he should be around for the rest of their career. Hes talking about buying a place close to metallica, that aint got nuthen to do with metallicas music. anyways..
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COMMENT | he also charged 40K a month!
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:03:10 AM
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I would have kicked his ass out after 3 days.
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COMMENT | Jesus Inker, did you cut your hair yet?
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:04:35 AM
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That rag has got to go!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:08:52 AM
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Jason embodied the whole spirit of Metallica, When they lost Jason, They lost something much more...
BULL FUCKING SHIT.
Do ANY of you assholes remember Cliff?
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COMMENT | Jason is a musician
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:08:55 AM
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Jason is a great metal bass player, but more than anything he's a musician, not a rock star. Kirk too is a musician, but he's stiffled by crap that Lars and James make him put up with. Jason left because he wanted to perform music again, not have to deal with the children who run metallica. If metallica want the respect that they had before they cut their hair off... ...maybe they should make music again and stop this "feeling" bull shit. I hope Jason goes far in his musical pursuits and i hope metallica do us all a favor and disband.
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COMMENT | dicks
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:15:01 AM
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all these twats on here bitching about how they don't give a fuck about metallica and will never care about anything they ever do from now on.
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ON HERE MOANING LIKE THE FUCKING WHINING COCK-JOCKEYS YOU ARE THEN?
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COMMENT | "performance coach"
posted by : Enemy of Reality
7/30/2004 11:29:47 AM
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LMAO. If he was their "performance coach", he wasn't doing his job very well. Yeah, we bash 'em, because they're whining, greedy millionaires who need a "performance coach" while truly talented bands like Opeth, The Crown, Suffocation, Testament, Misery Index, etc. who can play rings around them, well, mostly Lar$, struggle to get by financially. One of my favs, The Crown, did split because of the financial problems. How many times do you hear about someone calling it quits at least partially because of financial reasons? There's just a tiny-bit of an injustice kind of feeling it that which is most ironic. So fuck yeah, we'll bash em.
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COMMENT |
posted by : RectalHerpeBleeding
7/30/2004 11:32:26 AM
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Jason isn't metal? What about IR8 VS. Sexortica?
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COMMENT | VOTE ONE "OSAMA"
posted by : coming two a tower near you...
7/30/2004 11:37:54 AM
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you lot are like a kid in ah toy shop who can't get his way!
VOTE ONE "OSAMA" and be done with the lot of you!
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COMMENT | What?
posted by : Enemy of Reality
7/30/2004 11:47:55 AM
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Jason is very metal. They say they like Motorhead so much, maybe Lemmy should be hired as their new "performance coach". He would just bitch slap them across the face, tell them to stop whining, get over themselves and shut up and rock ass like back in 80's.
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COMMENT | Motion seconded
posted by : Enemy of Reality
7/30/2004 11:55:58 AM
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:-)
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COMMENT | SOME KIND OF MONSTER
posted by :
7/30/2004 11:56:25 AM
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I have seen the movie even though I am no longer a fan of Metallica. The reason I saw it was because I USED TO BE and they are the band that got me into metal in the first place.
The scene where Jason tells about why he left and where Dave Mustaine reveals he wishes he could go back in time and go to AA rather than ever get kicked out of Metallica are amazing. They are worth the cost of admission alone.
Jason rules.
www.fullmetaljoker.cjb.net
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COMMENT | Good For Jason
posted by :
7/30/2004 12:54:03 PM
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Does anyone else think Newsted saw the sinking ship and just got tired of putting up with the stupid shit?
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COMMENT | Testament has always been a pussy thrash
posted by : Tharsher
7/30/2004 1:02:52 PM
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but thrash nevertheless
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COMMENT | HMMMMM.....
posted by :
7/30/2004 1:08:39 PM
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thought that shit was suppose to be confidential.
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COMMENT | Metallica is like the Partridge Family of Metal
posted by :
7/30/2004 1:28:26 PM
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Except that they are too "emotional" to play metal anymore. Fucking pussies. Call it a day already.
Jason is looking pretty smart about now for bailing on these doucebags. He probably go tired of mopping up James tears, wiping the midgets butt, and perming Kirks hair.
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COMMENT | They're a bunch of shallow, ungrateful pieces of crap.
posted by : Enemy of Reality
7/30/2004 2:47:25 PM
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"My music", huh, Lar$? Doesn't James write most of the music. You sit back, screw up on every other drum take and complain about the songs being too hard. You all should just do the world a huge fucking favor and quit. You are all truly disgusting humans. Die.
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COMMENT | BlueEyeZ
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
7/30/2004 3:33:00 PM
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Damn you for posting that. Thanks for making me miss lunch, fuckface.
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COMMENT | wtf...
posted by : BlueEyeZ
7/30/2004 3:56:25 PM
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I hope you're being sarcastic, if not then is "fuckface" the most intelligent you can come up with?
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COMMENT | Yes, I was being sarcastic
posted by : Hellfire(~\m/~)
7/30/2004 3:57:42 PM
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Buttmunch. ;-)
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COMMENT |
posted by : BlueEyeZ
7/30/2004 4:00:51 PM
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LOL, now that is becoming more original. ;)
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/30/2004 4:13:46 PM
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MetallOprah
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COMMENT | You know what
posted by :
7/30/2004 10:38:12 PM
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Face it as much as I liked Jason. He was always JUST the "replacement" Bass player.
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COMMENT | Dam!!!
posted by : The Butcher
7/30/2004 11:57:25 PM
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shit BlueEyeZ you have too much fucking time on your hands
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COMMENT | must comment
posted by : The Butcher
7/31/2004 12:09:52 AM
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Jason Newsted is a good fucking bassist and was the balls in that band there is no metal in that band now, fuck them
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COMMENT |
posted by : BlueEyeZ
7/31/2004 3:55:03 AM
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"shit BlueEyeZ you have too much fucking time on your hands"
Ehm, I didn't type it, I just copy/pasted it from a wordfile with the interview I have on my harddrive.
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COMMENT | Metal Sludge--Iann Robinson
posted by :
7/31/2004 1:27:40 PM
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Go check out Iann Robinson's column on metal sludge where he rips the shit out of met for what they have become. It's pretty cool. He ends the article by saying James needs to dump Lar$ and clear shit up with Jason and Dave Mustaine and find a good drummer and start a new revolution in heavy music.
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COMMENT | Good Lord
posted by : changingsouls
8/1/2004 4:27:41 AM
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You know what, Im sick of hearing people dis metallica. You go out and change metal music and learn all of they're songs not for note then you can dis them until then, shut the hell up. Its sad when a band does a cd the way they want it and people rip it to shreds cause it doesn't sound like mop. And if I have to hear one more idiot comment on the production im going kill my freaking self. Thats how they wanted it to sound, I wish every band would record like this.
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COMMENT | Therapy, huh?
posted by : Rebel-Rattlesnake
8/3/2004 6:25:30 AM
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"But it was also difficult for me to think about leaving. … I was with this one client every day for almost 2 1/2 years. We started with 2- and 3-hour sessions, and then when things heated up as they made the album, I was in the studio every day."
Difficult? for what? Financial Reasons? LOL
I'm sure that bastard as been well paid for it, That's why it was soooooooooo difficult to drop this rich-ass client...
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COMMENT | voivod
posted by :
8/6/2004 11:11:05 AM
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Voivod really sux! Jason really fucked them up big time! Voivod kicked ass until Ja$onic joined them actually. He left Echobrain cuz they didn't have good record sales and the majority of his fans didn't really give a flying shit about them, so he found a new band to take advantage of. Ja$onic got really quiet since after Voivod did that touring last year and it wouldn't surprise me if he drops Voivod too, so I'm sure an announcement will be posted that he's leaving....just give it some time. Ja$onic will most likely join another band again and leave them too.
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