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Iraqi Heavy Metal Band ACRASSICAUDA Forced Out By Radical Islamists - Sep. 23, 2004
Popbitch.com is reporting that the Iraqi metal band ACRASSICAUDA have fled to Jordan after threats by radical Islamists in Iraq, prompting the web site to remark, "So U.S. and U.K.: well done for the new, free, liberal Iraq."

Back in August, The Wall Street Journal published an article describing ACRASSICAUDA's difficulties of reviving culture and entertainment in a society ripped apart by war. A short excerpt from the article, which appeared in the WSJ's August 17 edition, follows:

The members of ACRASSICAUDA honed their English by singing along to black-market MEGADETH and METALLICA CDs. They developed their stage moves by copying what they saw on pirated videotapes of American rock concerts. Now they’re learning a different lesson: the difficulties of reviving culture and entertainment in a society ripped apart by war.

The four members of ACRASSICAUDA, which means Black Scorpion in Latin, hope they can prove just as resilient. The young men — singer Faisal Talal, bassist Faris al-Lateef, drummer Marwan Mohammad Riyak and guitarist Tony Aziz — met as high-school students and formed the band, along with another member, in 2000. Scions of prominent families, they were drawn together by their love of Western heavy-metal bands like SLAYER and JUDAS PRIEST, which appealed to their feelings of isolation and disillusionment.

"It's about feeling powerless and lonely and wanting to scream out because no one else is paying attention to what you’re feeling," says Mr. Lateef, 23, who has spiky hair, a goatee and tinted sunglasses that he wears indoors. "The songs were sung by Americans but they could easily have been written by us as Iraqis." Read more.
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COMMENT | Before anyone does it...
posted by : biggusdickus
9/23/2004 8:16:47 PM

don't even try to blame shit like this on the US. Fuck these goddamned bloodthirsty towelheaded fundamentalists. We're coming to get you and you're all going to fucking die.

COMMENT |
posted by : thefrizzlefry667
9/23/2004 8:29:47 PM

real intelligent remark dickhead.

COMMENT | TOTALLY
posted by : NotoriousSMF
9/23/2004 8:30:40 PM

agree,,,,,picnic heads will die to the war ensemble....ha...how ironic eh?!!>.....slayer live in bagdad 2008...be there

COMMENT | They are truly a country that is fucked!!
posted by : Crazyass
9/23/2004 8:32:11 PM

You have an oppourtunity to change your situation, use it!!

Every night on the tube it's the same old shit, death in Iraq and so on. What the hell is wrong with these people? Do they not want peace for themselves for Gods sake?

The world can't help you if you don't want to help yourselves!!!!!

COMMENT | They all gonna die????
posted by : Ravenous Beast
9/23/2004 8:47:14 PM

Are you Mr. Bushs little son? Great solution idiot...

COMMENT | crazyass
posted by : BlackBehemoth
9/23/2004 8:55:04 PM

you only see the blood, and terror. But like Prime Minister Allawi said - they aren't showing the good that is happening. Peace isn't good for ratings. Death and destruction is.


Its not the US or UKs fault that the band got chased out. Its the bands fault, they are going against the fundamental attitudes. They are taking advantage of opportunity.

that may seem completely backward but to the terrorists and insurgents it probably is their fault. They are to be punished for being free, and doing what they love.

WIthout the US or UK or the other coalition members the band would have not even been able to come out and play!

but thats always washed over with anti american rhetoric and blame.

Lose lose situation always.

COMMENT | Heh, this should be interesting.
posted by : Dekompoze
9/23/2004 8:57:23 PM

This has the potential to be a very entertaining thread.

COMMENT | Serious idiots post here
posted by : Grapenutz
9/23/2004 9:03:03 PM

I wonder how many different screen names Phil Anselmo has?

COMMENT | it's pretty awesome...
posted by : ADCS
9/23/2004 9:09:49 PM

...That Acrassicauda exists. When're they playing New Jersey?!

COMMENT | BlackBehemoth!!, perhaps you're right but
posted by : Crazyass
9/23/2004 9:17:45 PM

If their are indeed people trying to make a difference over there I'm not seeing it and maybe that's part of the problem. We in the west never get to see the entire picture. Our media although free for the most part filter out a lot of the issues I'm sure. But I still have to ask, why are these individuals so full of hate not just towards the west, but towards their own kind? Blood begets blood, if real change is what the people want over there, they need to stand up for themselves and fight for the type of country they desire. The U.S. had their civil war and so on. Perhaps this is what's happening in Iraq. The people who desire peace and a normal way of life (i.e. not having to live in fear from one day to the next) are fighting back to try and make this so. My question is then, if this is indeed the case?, why aren't we in the western world told of this? All we see are the daily attacks on both coalition forces and the people of Iraq themselves. Excuse me if I seem naive (if that's how you spell it?) in all this, but it just doesn't make any sense to me. If you truly want peace for your people, you stop the BS and get it done!!

COMMENT |
posted by : METAL MASSACRE ATTACK
9/23/2004 9:23:22 PM

Allah thrashing mad!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | fuckin RIGHT ON Biggus...
posted by : Karl Hungus
9/23/2004 9:34:56 PM

"So U.S. and U.K.: well done for the new, free, liberal Iraq."

OMFG!! Do these ingrates not realize we are there to help? These fucking bitches are lucky their heads are still attached to their bodies! Freedom doesn't happen over night metal brothers. In fact, why don't you pick up some fucking guns and fight alongside the Coalition instead of fleeing to Jordan your fucking pussies!!

COMMENT | man...
posted by : Night Prowler
9/23/2004 9:44:17 PM

If we could just exterminate all the Islamic extremists and any other Muslims who take their religion to the max then I guarantee you that the world would be a better place!

COMMENT |
posted by : MKD
9/23/2004 10:09:47 PM

Sounds like a round of the blame game to me. Blah blah blah, its our fault blah blah blah its theirs. Who cares, if you care about the music you play, you'll go wheres its appreciated, which is sure as hell not Iraq.

COMMENT | Well if you ask me, it to damn bad!!
posted by : Crazyass
9/23/2004 10:14:15 PM

The world if you really stop and think about it, is not a big place. We all live, love and die at some point and time. I guess I just believe we all should try and make the best of it while we're hear. I do have very strong views on certain topics and have been called stuborn by some. However I would never use violence to get my point across. I suppose their are those who believe it's the only option they have left. If that is indeed the case?, every person in the world today has a lesser quailty of life than they should. We all lived in fear of the former Soviet Union during the cold war and now both sides realise how foolish that was. So much death and destruction in this world we live in. Why the hell can't we all just get along!!!!!

COMMENT | Once again BLAME RELIGION!!!!!
posted by : Satomet80
9/23/2004 10:53:31 PM

IT IS AS CLEAR AS DAY...

RELIGION = (BLOODSHED + HATE + 6 BILLION BLIND FOLKS WHO ARE WILLING TO RISK THEIR NECK FOR SOMETHING THEY READ IN A BOOK)^x

EXPONENTIAL CHAOS is the output of religion.

I mean, seriously....have you seen God? Has God done anything for you that you KNOW he did for you?

My philosophy, if i can see it, i can believe it.

AND, dont hate specifically islam and muslims, hate the fucker who wrote the damn doctrines, and every other BLOODSUCKING religion....christianity, you name it.

Hate comes only from Religion.

COMMENT | "don't these ingrates realise we're only here to help"
posted by : Legion
9/23/2004 10:56:17 PM

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

fuckin' americans...
their country wouldn't need to be rebuilt if the US hadn't gone in & blasted the fuck out of it...
Dickhead "Dubya" couldn't get Osama so instead he tries for an easier target.. that's right, the old enemy that daddy somehow couldn't catch...

THE US IS NOT EVERYBODY'S WATCHDOG/BIG BROTHER/BODYGUARD/POLICEMAN (delete where applicable) & SHOULD LEAVE OTHER COUNTRIES TO SORT THEMSELVES OUT - FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE...

oh, but hang on... there's oil to be had...

George W. may have bought the presidency but that doesn't erase the fact that millions of stupid fucking Americans DID vote for him...

A few thousand in the WTC wasn't nearly enough to teach you dickheads a lesson...

COMMENT | Night Prowler
posted by : PowerSlaver
9/23/2004 10:57:41 PM

This should apply to every single religion, not just Islam.

COMMENT | 10 years or so..
posted by : childrenofthedamned
9/23/2004 11:03:40 PM

"So U.S. and U.K.: well done for the new, free, liberal Iraq." What do they think, that freedom and democracy come in a spray-can? Religion is to the middle east what corporations are to the west. We will know that Iraq is free and liberal when they have shows and the zealots show up to pass out leaflets. So back off with the instant gratification and wait a decade.

COMMENT | HEY LEGION GET A CLUE
posted by : Satomet80
9/23/2004 11:05:43 PM

I'm american and i agree with you 100% with the exception of calling americans "dickheads."

No, we're not the police of the world. G.W. Bush is a horrible "president" and DIDNT EVEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE. SO TO CALL ALL AMERICANS DICKHEADS IS A MISCONCEPTION OF YOURS.

AL GORE WON THE POPULAR VOTE, G.W. BUSH WON THE ELECTORAL VOTES. So, more people voted for gore than bush.

anyway, Night prowler is wrong too, muslims arent to blame. Its christianity, islam, and any other religion that forces its beliefs on people (which includes basically every religion).

AMERICA BASHING IS JUST SILLY, BUSH DOESNT REPRESENT MOST OF US.

COMMENT | Satomet... a few points:
posted by : Legion
9/23/2004 11:17:19 PM

1. I didn't call all Americans dickheads, i said "...teach you dickheads a lesson..." meaning simply: if the cap fits...

2. I know Gore got the populist vote, all i said was that millions voted for Bush

3. The police/watchdog mentality is not exclusive to "W"... it is the way the US has always behaved, regardless of who's in the White House

COMMENT | My thoughts.
posted by : xlegionx
9/23/2004 11:40:43 PM

This world fucking sucks.

COMMENT |
posted by : INFLAMER
9/23/2004 11:55:24 PM

totally agreed. a world where some horny redneck kills hundreds of people in the name of "freedom", and some other caveman kills innocent people and cover it up by saying "Islam says so!", is only good enough to be shoved up God's ass for creating this whole fuckin' mess.

COMMENT | If you only knew
posted by : Makkah
9/24/2004 12:01:29 AM

Don't believe everything you read that comes out of Iraq. It's almost always mixed with lies and made to give this us vs. them mentallity.

How would you feel if someone bombed your house, tortured your friends and family and told you it was all for your own good. SOME people don"t know & SOME dont know how much they really dont know>>> read about islam from it"s sources and you"ll seen none of this makes sense (especially this silly story about some band being driven out of iraq)

COMMENT | Good point Makkah
posted by : ~ShitStorm~
9/24/2004 12:19:59 AM

This war, as with all wars, is a totally fucked up situation. Most likely, no one here knows what it's like to have their neighbor hood ripped to peices by missles, to pick through rubble trying to find a shred of your sibling. So none of us can judge this bands situation, or the plight of the Iraqi people for that matter. No one had ever received freedom from carpet bombing, no one has received liberty when their family was cought in machine gun crossfire. Fuck wars, they are the ultimate product of human stupidity.

COMMENT | BEST OF LUCK
posted by : AlienDaimon
9/24/2004 12:20:49 AM

To Acrassicauda.
Capitalism sucks.

COMMENT |
posted by : Kreep
9/24/2004 12:34:09 AM

War is funny.

COMMENT | Great.
posted by : Murraymint
9/24/2004 12:52:09 AM

I'd love to see how some of you think your country would handle things if somebody bombed the absolute piss out of your country and removed any and every form of stable leadership.

Do you think things are so fucked up now because they're "fucking towelheads"?

When a bomb falls on your house and kills your family, are you going to call those who dropped the bomb your saviors? I'd love to hear you say yes.

I'd also love to hear how this war killing more Iraqis then Saddam has killed in the past ten years is considered "freeing Iraq".

COMMENT | Shit.
posted by : Warchief
9/24/2004 1:00:19 AM

Thats tell.

COMMENT | FUCK IRAQ
posted by : coffeenut
9/24/2004 1:08:53 AM

JOHN KERRY SUCKS

BUSH SUCKS

PETER STEELE 4 PREZ.

FUCK IRAQ.

COMMENT | i hope
posted by : Destiny_Is_Dead
9/24/2004 1:25:21 AM

that these guys move to the us and get signed by someone like century media

COMMENT | www.ogrish.com
posted by : tvspat
9/24/2004 1:45:34 AM

Watch these beheading videos and then see how you feel about the war

COMMENT | TVSPAT GOOD INFO
posted by : coffeenut
9/24/2004 2:03:31 AM

http://www.ogrish.com/


Check out the beheading videos.

After seeing that.

BUSH SHOULD BLOW THAT FUCKING CANCER OF THE WORLD COUNTRY TO NOTHING. FUCK THOSE SICK PIECES OF SHIT. PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE THAT WE WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH SICK TWISTED FUCKS.

DIE MOTHER FUCKERS DIE.

COMMENT | Same shit
posted by : LordHell
9/24/2004 2:18:52 AM

Christianity & Islam = same shit in different package. It is all about oil. US of A doesn´t give a shit about people. But if stupid fucks are killing stupid fucks, let it happen. The world would be a better place.

COMMENT | Typo.
posted by : Murraymint
9/24/2004 2:22:38 AM

Typo.

Then = Than.

Gei.

COMMENT |
posted by : TheClansman?!
9/24/2004 2:27:27 AM

FUCK ALL RELIGION.

COMMENT | Anybody ever heard Acrassicauda?
posted by : SoulReaper
9/24/2004 2:31:49 AM

Are they just some crappy neighborhood band playing predictable old thrash covers? I hope not.

The other shit... uh, what Frostnettenes said. I agree 100%. What some view as strength and purpose, others will view as tyranny and myopia. The truth is we (the U.S.) didn't cause the animosity among the factions in Iraq, but we sure as hell caused it to tear loose in the streets when we toppled their government - as is bound to happen wherever an outside government decides to make some ballsy move like that. Which the United States' government did. For what purpose, I'm still unsure.

W just doesn't act like a guy concerned with human life (unless you're still in the womb). Maybe he really DID think there were Al-Queda cells there, or some group in cahoots with them. But just deposing the ruler? Didn't his daddy learn anything in El Salvador? Maybe he's just doing what God told him to - he's a middle-aged born-again (just like Saddam!) and they're always the scariest because they feel like they have to make up for lost time. It fucking shocks me that people will vote for him again, but I guess Americans also love "The Apprentice," so there's really no accounting for mob sanity. Considering the tepid alternative and the fact that no one gives third parties a chance here, it's possible anough people will want this psycho to carry out his bizarre scheme for even longer. On the upside, American metal's always been better when an Republican's in office... everyone's so tense and disenfranchised and agitated...

COMMENT | fuck them
posted by : metalhead43
9/24/2004 2:33:06 AM

once again it's the U.S.A's fault? look you ungrateful bastards our soldiers are over there dying for your chicken shit asses and your whining because you and your people won't stand up to these islamic fuckheads? and if you are offended to fucking bad, i am sick of hearing about how islam is such a peacful relgion yet when you are given freedom you go around and blow shit up in the name of allah. if you choose to follow this pray 23 out of 24 hr.s a day bullshit relegion where every fucking thing is sacred then there is no hope for your sorry asses. if we had not got rid of sadam you would not even be playing shitty music of yours. take some respnsibility people it's not our fault you chose to riot and destroy your musems then turn around and blame us. sorry innocent people are dying but it's hard to rebuild your sorry ass country when being shot at and blown up, just point out who is doing it and we can kill them and get on with the task at hand but don't keep quiet then bitch because civilans got hurt or died because you are to afraid to stand up. and maybe if your islamic brothers would send in some help the job might get done faster.

COMMENT | thefrizzlefry667
posted by : youcunt
9/24/2004 3:09:19 AM

great call.

COMMENT | Satomet80
posted by : youcunt
9/24/2004 3:20:52 AM

"My philosophy, if i can see it, i can believe it."


How do you check how much money you have in the bank? See it/believe it?

COMMENT | EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP
posted by : youcunt
9/24/2004 3:29:04 AM

This is not the forum to voice your political ideas. Please go elsewhere. Somewhere where your views are useful, constructive and proactive towards a cause.

Try the following:
- Vote
- Sign a petition
- Rally
- Write a letter to your government
- Take the initative


Just talk metal here or fuck off.

COMMENT |
posted by : hateinsideyourhead
9/24/2004 5:23:43 AM

'totally agreed. a world where some horny redneck kills hundreds of people in the name of "freedom", and some other caveman kills innocent people and cover it up by saying "Islam says so!", is only good enough to be shoved up God's ass for creating this whole fuckin' mess.'

Some funny shit, that cracked me up but its so true hahahahahahahaha

COMMENT | There's one thing you people need to understand
posted by : The Melon
9/24/2004 6:17:54 AM

Saddam had a laic governement , a dictatorship yes But when the US got Saddam out the laic ideal was removed by islamist fundamentalists that the US got in power. Women didnt use to wear headscarves on Irak and now theres pressure from the government to do it.....It goes the same way for drinking beer, going to a disco and dance, and of course heavy metal music. Sad thing is .....even the dictatorship seemed more modern in some social issues than the current iraki leaders.

COMMENT | "Fuck religion, blah, blah, blah"
posted by : mansnam
9/24/2004 8:29:13 AM

IMO, I don't think religion is what makes people do atrocities. It has more to do with power. Think about it.

BTW, I'm not religious. Peace.

COMMENT | DwnSouthJukin - YOU ARE THE FUCKING IDIOT-
posted by : The Melon
9/24/2004 8:52:05 AM

Who is Osama Bin Laden ?

An Islamic Extremist who was once helped by the USA and then turned his back on them.
Read what I said again you ignorant douchebag.

I never said Saddam should've stayed, nor that he was a good president. But if the US was gonna put someone in charge, it would've been a lot better not to put islamic extremists who COULD EVENTUALLY TURN THEIR BACKS ON THE USA just like Osama Bin Laden did.

Islamic extremists will only treat women like the talibans, bring religion close to governement duties just like in the fucking middle ages, ban different kinds of music (DID YOU READ EVEN THE ARTICLE ABOVE?), ban different opinions on newspapers,etc.

NOW HOW IS THAT FOR FREEDOM you idiot ?!

COMMENT | larz
posted by : The Melon
9/24/2004 8:53:18 AM

''did you even read''

But you dont know how to read, 'cause you are an idiot.

COMMENT | OIL
posted by : audiodhani
9/24/2004 8:58:35 AM

OIL.

COMMENT | fuck you legion
posted by : Potato219
9/24/2004 9:01:11 AM

first of all Legion, you are the biggest fucking idiot. fuck you man, don't equate the 2,000 people that died in those fucking buildings to A FUCKING LESSON TO BE LEARNED! DOES THIS LOOK LIKE SNOW FUCKING WHITE TO YOU? DOES THIS LOOK LIKE AESOP'S GOD DAMNED FABLES? yes i agree, the u.s. should just let the rest of the world do whatever the fuck they want. but you know what, that's fucking gay man. don't just say 2,000 dead americans is a fucking lesson man. there might be fucking lessons to be learned, but the fact is, americans are probably more educated than half the people in your shithead country, so fuck you. my country is not nearly as ignorant as you are, you fucking moron.

COMMENT | People are fucking clueless
posted by : The Melon
9/24/2004 9:02:31 AM

AMAZING how some people let the RETHORIC brainwash their little heads. I suppose the capacity inside isn't very large, so some haven't GOT much OF a choice. EDUCATE yourselves people, for a change! Educate yourselves and think for yourselves, instead of jumping on the bandwagon of Bush-lovers (because it's "the in" thing these days) and instead of believing the propaganda the media likes to spoonfeed you. wake up before it's too late.

JFK '04

COMMENT |
posted by : burnthalo
9/24/2004 9:42:52 AM

Um, we are probably not more educated than his country since we are the 2nd dumbest country in the world (overall, excluding third world). It sounds to me like this band must have been playing for at least five years (they said they formed in high school and the guy is 23). Therefore, maybe there is a serious problem if now they are getting kicked out. We should have just left them alone instead of letting our greedy people in power go after oil.

Oh and by the way, don't forget that the war "ended" like 2 years ago. Now our troops and maybe even some of your friends are dying in...well....

COMMENT |
posted by : Murraymint
9/24/2004 9:53:48 AM

Did I just get the impresison that somebody thinks Iraq had something to do with September 11th??

Or are they all simply arabs, so what applies to one applies to all?

COMMENT |
posted by : Switch
9/24/2004 10:04:07 AM

"AMAZING how some people let the RHETORIC brainwash their little heads.

...W '04"


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that made my day. You, sir, are hilarious.

COMMENT | WELL ALL I KNOW IS...
posted by : RICKY,JULIAN&BUBBLES
9/24/2004 10:04:44 AM

..if these guys do ever get to play i would not want to be in the first 10 rows,those suicide stage divers are a real pain in the ass.

COMMENT | Murraymint
posted by : SoulReaper
9/24/2004 10:48:20 AM

That's just what W and Cheney want us to believe.

COMMENT | WTF
posted by : Dieselhed1
9/24/2004 11:34:40 AM

Blame the U.S. that's nice. I'm sure Saddam would have loved this band. Try playing with your arms wacked off. Freedom is not handed to anyone as the liberals in America would have you believe. You have to stand up and fight for it. America has unlocked the door and now it is up to the Iraqi people to kick it down. By the way these are your neighbors from Syria and Iran and other terrorist countries cutting heads and killing Iraqi's. Why aren't these people pissed at them?

COMMENT | Again....
posted by : Frostnettenes
9/24/2004 12:04:08 PM

Two things that are impossible to win an argument against- religion and politics. It all boils down to what someone's "two cents" are worth. DwnSouthJukin, I'm sorry you've probably never been out of the U.S. to see first-hand how other countries live in comparison to it. While Iraq and other Middle-Eastern countries are indeed in dire need of help (by themselves), others like Finland, Norway, Holland, Sweden and many others are well-oiled machines whom you next-to-never hear of in the news because they keep to themselves and live very comfortably without the constant barrage of political brain-washing you see in the U.S. Granted, there is some; but nowhere-near what there is "here". In defense of your Michael Moore comment: I do respect the man's opinion, but he is no better than the government because he incites ill-feelings from both the government AND it's citizens. He didn't "wake up" the people like he was (supposedly) expecting to. It mostly fell on deaf ears. Think about it- how much did "Bowling for Columbine" move you? Probably none. Same here. The U.S. is a great country with some very amazing people, but that is something most other countries never get to see about it. The drama unfolds in the news- there is no drama in my life... it doesn't pay the bills!



"Jos oikeutta enemmän vain nähdä saan, voin verhoutua vaikka lumenvalkeaan. Mutta jos maalima jatkaa pimeän matkan taivallusta, yllani on surupuku ja surupuku on musta."- Timo Rautiainen & Trio Niskalaukaus, "Surupuku"

COMMENT |
posted by : gg allin
9/24/2004 12:39:15 PM

Jordan, where this band fled, used to be a hellpit of religious oppression ruled by heavy-handed thugs. The country slowly changed *from within* over many years to become one of the most toletant middle east countries. Iraq will never achieve this because you cannot impose democracy from the outside.

Yeah there's so much good going on in Iraq right now. Ha. "We built schools and gave them electricity!" Sad to say, Iraq had the best education system in the region (destroyed!), electricity & water were fine (destroyed!), and a lot more people had jobs than before. Better off now? The contractors who have been sent to make money rebuilding the country surely are....as long as they keep from having their heads cut off. A lot of these guys are there only because they cannot find good work in the US due to Bush's failed economic bullshit policies.


Bush is so concerned with others well being that he's let horrendous civil war rage in Africa, done nothing about the brutal dictators regimes in parts of south america, and Cuba (100 miles from the US border) is run by a communist dictator who oppresses and jails his own people for no good reason. Not to mention N. Korea, Laos, etc. Hypocritical? We are the worlds policeman, but we'll enforce our "law" at our convenience it seems, and only if there is something in it for us.

COMMENT | sorry.
posted by : gg allin
9/24/2004 12:41:21 PM

"a lot more people had jobs than before"
should say: "a lot more people had jobs than they do now"

COMMENT | Heres some good Irag footage for everyone
posted by : Halfords Man
9/24/2004 12:56:56 PM

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/hostages.asp

Enjoy the videos, war is hell

COMMENT | gg allin
posted by : Green Hell
9/24/2004 1:14:01 PM

I couldn't have put it any better myself!!

COMMENT | UK too.
posted by : Divided
9/24/2004 1:31:02 PM

Don't forget that it's not just the US who are in this, for example, in Farenheit 9/11, anything about the war, and the soldiers out there, it was all Americans, I'm sure there wasn't even a mention of the British soldiers. I know that film was made for americans to see, but it made out that it was all the US dealing with it. Nobody seems to even think about the British guys out there, it's all like, oh, it's america who's trying to sort it all out, it's all the american soldiers who are being killed, well, the brits are too, don't forget that.
I'm sure the majority of americans don't even think about the british soliders out there, and I know the majority are American, but...surely the Brits should get some credit for being out there too. They seem to be going unoticed.
When I read about 'Acrassicauda' I thought they sounded alright, I didn't immeadiately think 'OMG! how ungrateful for them to say "US & UK well done for the new, free, liberal Iraq."
Stop faultfinding and being so quick to be offended. I'm sure it feels to them like nobody's doing what they'd promised, with innocent people being killed around you how could you say 'ah yes, i can see how this is making our country a better place...innocent people are being killed...hmm,just like when Saddam ruled...'
I'm sure in america you don't get the same press as we do,that's probably why so many are for this war. I can't see that it's doing much good. Just leave them to it.

COMMENT | DwnSouthJukin
posted by : Frostnettenes
9/24/2004 3:27:10 PM

Well, I'll have to admit- we do agree on some things. I feel respect for ANYONE who tries to make things better, anywhere. I am still 100% American. That will never change. Brainwashed? Myself, I know I am not. I don't care in the least about government or religious issues as long as they propose to, and follow through with to the best of their abilities, better both their country and others. Michael Moore isn't anyone that I even care for, but he is (as I said) just as bad as anyone else who fabricates things to get their point across. The "War on Terror" is something I have no positive or negative opinion of. It's happening, whether I am for it or against it. The only thing I wish is that the U.S. would take better care of it's people. fuel, lumber and concrete prices have skyrocketed since this campaign began all because we've shipped so much over to Afghanistan and Iraq to help rebuild their countries. I have no hostility toward anyone who shows none toward me- it is ignorant and childish for someone to blame or accuse another for their honest beliefs. When people open their mouths before they've analyzed the situations they're in, that is when all runs amok. Vote Kerry; vote Bush.... when you do that, you are voting for the one who you feel will do the best for all concerned, right? The conspiracies are stemming from the government, lad. Try growing up in a military household sometime and you will see how totally different the things really are from what happens and what you hear on the news. If we all KNEW the exact reasons for why things are they way they are, there would be a lot more trust amongst everyone. Sorry to say, it isn't going to happen.

Just as a footnote: Finland, Norway and Sweden all fought in both World War II and are with the "War on Terror". The northernmost city of Norway was totally destroyed by Germany during WWII. They are right beside the U.S. Norway produces ALL of it's own oil. I would also think that when it is MANDATORY to serve in the military after high school (such as with these aforementioned countries), cowardice isn't nearly as common as in the U.S.

COMMENT | DwnSouthJukin again..
posted by : Frostnettenes
9/24/2004 3:51:18 PM

Flying is alright. Just like sitting in your living room with a loud vacuum cleaner running. Everything is cool. Glad to hear your opinions on everything though- we're all in this giant bowl of fish together!

COMMENT | DwnSouthJukin
posted by : nosferato
9/24/2004 4:07:04 PM

My point is just that religion is the root of all evil (christianity included)!!

COMMENT | frostnettenes
posted by : nosferato
9/24/2004 5:11:39 PM

Sweden was neutral in WWII, if I´m not misstaken

COMMENT | Bush 2004
posted by : Power Violence
9/24/2004 7:46:56 PM

Why bush is good:

At the whim of his oil baron masters (Cheney & co.), Bush will continue to send American troops to die in the desert.

While the Americans die, they manage to exterminate thousands of Iraqis, many of whom are islamic fundimentalists.

Iran (islamic state), is massing at the Iraq/Iran and Afganistan/Iran borders, ready to crush the coalition forces in a 'pre-empitive' strike. The Iranians will be exterminated also.

Everyone will die, and the world will be better off without the Oil barons, religious psychopaths and lowly American ignorance.

COMMENT | oh and to "youcunt"
posted by : Satomet80
9/24/2004 11:37:27 PM

What the hell does your post mean?

YES i CAN see how much money is in my bank account, just check the statements online. If i can see it, i can believe it.

and in case you didnt know "youcunt"...they have a little box in the online statement with the word "balance" above it. It tells you how much money is in your account. try it sometime.

COMMENT | Satomet80....I agree
posted by : FiftyOneFifty
9/25/2004 4:04:11 AM

The freakin priest at my Catholic church spoke about how evil the Islamic religion is. This is exactly the kind of statement that makes me ashamed to have been raised catholic. On one side we're taught to love, and then on the other to hate. One of the high people in the religion is even blinded by the media's definition of a Muslim. It doesn't say anywhere in the Koran (Muslim equivalence to the bible for the ignorant ones) that you're supposed to kill yourself and another to go into Heaven. That whole shpeel is a load of shit. If you're gonna choose to have an opinion on a religion, do some fucking research before you make an ass of yourself.

I also agree with the Republican comment. I don't know a single Conservative that hasn't been blinded by something in the media, or family history. The only intelligent Republican I know is only supportive of Bush because her family background is military, and I'm sure she just doesn't wanna believe that her family's history has been doing the wrong thing all this time. Whatever.

Anyways, most of the people on this post need to stick to music, cuz at least they seem to be able to do that well.

COMMENT | DwnSouthJukin
posted by : The Melon
9/25/2004 7:55:10 AM

''LOL''

what a fucking idiot.

COMMENT | This show explains it all....
posted by : youcunt
9/27/2004 8:06:31 PM

http://www6.sbs.com.au/JohnSafranVsGod/


Get the DVD when it comes out.

COMMENT | Satomet80
posted by : youcunt
9/27/2004 8:22:16 PM

I was taking the piss out of your 'philosophy' ("My philosophy, if i can see it, i can believe it."):

You can't actually see the money but you believe the bank statement. Which contradicts the point you were trying to make.



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