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MEGADETH: 'Anarchy' Request Denied By SEX PISTOLS Frontman
- Dec. 30, 2004
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According to Popbitch.com, SEX PISTOLS frontman Johnny Rotten (a.k.a John Lydon) has reportedly refused to give permission for the lyrics to the PISTOLS' "Anarchy in the U.K." to be used in the forthcoming new complete MEGADETH anthology.
Rotten was reportedly quoted as saying, "They got them wrong the first time round so there's no reason to believe they'll get them right this time." (MEGADETH covered the song on their 1988 album "So Far, So Good...So What", with famously incorrect lyrics — "...and other council tendencies" was sung as "...and other cunt-like tendencies.")
According to E-Paranoids.com, "Anarchy in the U.K." was the first single by the punk band the SEX PISTOLS in 1976, and is thus frequently considered to be the first punk single. Although it only reached number 38 on the U.K. pop charts, its long-term influence was substantial. The group's follow-up single, "God Save The Queen" reached number 2. Both songs later appeared on the album "Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols".
The song's lyrics espouse a nihilistic, emotive, and violent concept of anarchy that does not correspond to the views of any major trend of anarchist philosophy. The lyrics can be interpreted as satirical, mocking not only the government but also directionless or purely fashionable rebellion.
(Thanks: Kelly Saxton / Electric PR Ltd)
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COMMENT | actually......
posted by :
12/30/2004 2:08:18 AM
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.......the first proper punk single was The Damned's "New Rose". Methinks. Of course I might be wrong.
And if you want to talk about punk, I think The Ramones, The Stooges and The MC5 came first, but hey.
Anyway, as soon as Mustaine throws a lot of quid to Lydon, Lydon will oblige. Then again, they both deserve each other.
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COMMENT | Johnny Rotten is an idiot.
posted by : 2negative
12/30/2004 2:10:03 AM
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The Sex Pistols suck. They were a manufactured band, the Backstreet Boys of punk. The Ramones were the first punk band and the Sex Pistols cannot hold a candle to their farts.
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COMMENT | The usual weak argument
posted by : MagicDeath
12/30/2004 2:38:14 AM
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The Pistols weren't "manufactured" like the Backstreet Boys. John Lydon is his own person, apparently you don't know shit about the background of the band. They broke up because you couldn't keep a leash on him, that had nothing to do with manufactured anything.
The Sex Pistols are fucking kings. The only thing contrived was Sid Vicious, he couldn't even play bass just wanted to do drugs and look cool, unfortunately he holds the bands legacy for no good reason but for being an idiot.
Learn your history first dumbass!
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COMMENT | R-A-M-O-N-E-S... RAMONES!!
posted by : darthadv
12/30/2004 2:38:57 AM
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FUCK the Pistols! Mega-Dave improved the song, if you ask me!
The Pistols had one hit album... they were a flash in the pan... get over yourself, Lydon!
And everyone knows the Ramones were the kings of punk!
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COMMENT | HAHAHAH
posted by : MagicDeath
12/30/2004 2:44:52 AM
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"Mega-Dave improved the song"
Holy shit, I can't stop LAUGHING!
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COMMENT | them pistols
posted by :
12/30/2004 2:50:49 AM
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The Pistols did their thing, but they have nothing on The Clash, The Ramones, The Damned, etc.
Lydon came on his own on Public Image Limited.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/30/2004 2:53:59 AM
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Motley Crue did a good cover of that song too, but John is right that Dave did ruin the lyrics to seem more PC to the metal crowd at the time. Megadeth's version of "Problems" is faaaar better.
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COMMENT | Very true
posted by : MagicDeath
12/30/2004 3:00:56 AM
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"Lydon came on his own on Public Image Limited."
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/30/2004 3:19:41 AM
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It was a shitty cover anyway.
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COMMENT | happy jack and I wanna be your dog.
posted by : Brasilian metalhead JP
12/30/2004 3:45:19 AM
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Hey fellas, that Mustaine sucks we all know from the day he were kicked out from metallica.
Now about the very first punk band , that is very unsure, but the movement prior to Punk were the mods leaded by the Who demolishing guitars and drum sets. wich may coin The Who as the first punk band ever. also many years prior to Pistols there were MC5 kicking the gems and Iggy pop, either way all this crap is not true metal , and sorry guys I have a amon amarth cd to listen with no shitty covers.
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COMMENT |
posted by : megaman18
12/30/2004 3:45:21 AM
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fuck the sex pistols they suck!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/30/2004 4:00:01 AM
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It's just a lyric book that Dave's working on. So what, so he doesn't get to print the lyrics. Oh well, no big deal really.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/30/2004 4:47:02 AM
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ok .... now, i love the pistols! but i have to say that the saints were the first punk band, infact it was the saints (early 70's band from brisbane australia) that inspired malcom mclaron to put the sex pistols together.
also "God save the queen" went to number one in the british charts. for any fans who havnt seen it i suggest that you check out the "filth and the fury" documentry on the band very interesting and very entertaining.
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COMMENT | to seven 13
posted by : Brasilian metalhead JP
12/30/2004 5:02:46 AM
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early 70`s.??? sorry matte I know that you want to bring your country to the spotlight, but hey the pistols were never as punk as Iggy pop and the guys were in the Stooges in the late 60`s.
God save the queen will never be as punk as Baba O`reily or I wann a be your dog, please read the posts before you blab something.
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COMMENT | It always amazes me...
posted by : The Fish that should not be
12/30/2004 5:49:15 AM
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...that the Pistols get called 'punk' left right and center when they were'nt, even Lydon has said they aint punk, they are a rock and roll band. Blame Malcolm Mclaren for them getting that label
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/30/2004 5:52:55 AM
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id guess he wasn't pleased with mustaine making the lyrics more punklike and cooler than the original, haha
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COMMENT |
posted by : CREEPINGDEATH92703
12/30/2004 6:28:07 AM
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the sex pistols are shit anyway
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COMMENT | the sex pistols
posted by :
12/30/2004 7:50:37 AM
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may be the most overated band in history. god awful songs, not an ounce of musical talent. basically a train wreck put to music. That punk movement lasted a whole 3 years, and its aftermath was a faggy silly new wave movement that was outright embarrasing. some legacy
get metal
be thankful mega covered you're lame song
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COMMENT | maybe britain didnt invent punk
posted by :
12/30/2004 7:53:02 AM
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but, they surely did invent metal. which is what really matters . UK-1, US- 0, ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh
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COMMENT | PISTOLS SUCK COCK
posted by :
12/30/2004 8:02:15 AM
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I like hardcore but late 70's punk is just shite, pistols are shit and Megadeth did anarchy justice its way better than the original, pistols are talentless bums.
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COMMENT | MagicDeath
posted by :
12/30/2004 9:09:31 AM
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You are incorrect....the pistols were manufactured...Read Lydon's autobiography "Rotten"...He only got the gig because he looked the part. Malcom something (I forget the name) put them together. More as a fashion movement then a musical one...I still enjoy their music though...
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COMMENT | This doesn't matter.
posted by : EyeForAnEye
12/30/2004 9:27:22 AM
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mustaine's lyrics to that song weren't even good. And the Anarchy in the UK cover is obviously the weakest song on SFSGSW, which proves that the Sex Pistols sucked. Want punk? Listen to the Ramones or the Clash.
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COMMENT | I ALWAYS DESPISED Megadeths cover but
posted by :
12/30/2004 9:44:31 AM
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John Lydon is a fucking JERKOFF!!Sex Pistols SUCK DICK!! P.I.L. RULE!!Nuff said.pizEACE!!!
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COMMENT | I did
posted by : MagicDeath
12/30/2004 9:58:34 AM
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read his book. The band was playing together before Malcolm came along so I don't consider that to be manufactured, plus considering since day one Malcolm had not even the slightest hold on their personalities, especially Lydon, that is was a monster he tried to control but couldn't.
I understand what you're saying but it isn't "manufactured" in the way people see bands put together today.
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COMMENT | the sex pistolS and the ramones are two differeNT entities
posted by :
12/30/2004 9:59:12 AM
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from 2 different continents that produced 2 different styles of punk. they are both awesome and I'm glad he didnt give dave permission. P.I.L. rule? Stamby your fucking high. The clash were so short lived and untalented that its funny. talk about manufactured...the clash are it. When I was in high school all the jocks listened to the clash and the police. never mind... is the best punk album of all time. All bands are manufactured to one degree or another. that is a stupid argument. CRO-MAGS RULE ANYWAY.
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COMMENT | Fuck Sex Pistols and Punk
posted by :
12/30/2004 10:27:36 AM
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Fuck Sex Pistols and Punk. Punk stands for Phoney Un-Original Noisy Krap.
Megadeth's version is a million times better.
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COMMENT | yes punk stands for phoney un-original noisy krap
posted by :
12/30/2004 10:45:47 AM
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that must be why megadeth chose to cover it, because it is all of the same. good for you mr. rotten thats your song fuck dave mustaine, hes not even british
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COMMENT | I'm A BIG RAMONES FAN BUT
posted by : mrpunchy
12/30/2004 10:59:25 AM
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I AM NOT SO PRETENTIOUS TO BASH THE SEX PISTOLS or even GREEN DAY.
They both had the right to be out there making music, and it was ALL GOOD.
PS: DAVE and MEGADETH \m/ o-o \m/
Ramones RIP good people!!!
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COMMENT | whats Rotten's point .........................
posted by : SPANKY
12/30/2004 12:08:52 PM
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Whats his godanm point ???? Is he just being a " punk " and an asshole or maybe he wants to make himself and his band feel more important . " I have the power and NO you may not use MY lyrics in your little anthology". I have read from other punk bands that have toured with the Sex Pistols and most of them said that they have BIG ROCK STAR EGOS ( Thats not very PUNK ) If anything the MEGADETH version probably helped the Sex Pistols . Metal fans were exposed to punk and probably many went out and bought " Anarchy in the UK " . I think Rotten has an ego and is just being a DICK plain and simple !!! any how I still like Sex Pistols and I still love MEGADETH \m/ !!
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COMMENT | re:
posted by : DeadKing
12/30/2004 1:07:55 PM
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You can argue the whole "the beginning of PUNK" debate all day long. I don't care. Punk to me started with the New York Dolls. But it's different for everyone.
Very few bands have covered those mid 70's-early 80's punk songs effectively. Megadeth tried it 2 times and both times they sucked at it. As technical of a guitarist as Mustaine is, he could never be the guitarist that Steve Jones was. And whatever jack-off they had drumming for them could never be as powerful as Paul Cook. And Mustaines voice, forget it. His voice sucks on HIS songs, let alone cover songs that are far better than anything his shitty band has ever produced. Lydon's voice was not commercial, but it was powerful and snotty and fit that band perfectly.
Very few metal bands have effectively covered those early punk songs. Motorhead's "God Save The Queen" is great, and ofcourse Metallica's "Green Hell/Last Caress" was classic. Guns-n-Roses put out a whole album of mostly shitty covers of great punks songs. Their version of The Dead Boys "Aint It Fun" sucks.
Cheers to Lydon for pissing all over Mustaine.
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COMMENT |
posted by : FearTheNocturnalFrost
12/30/2004 1:13:37 PM
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the only punk band that matters are the fucking misfits!!!
EARTH A.D. BITCHES
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/30/2004 1:18:26 PM
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Johnny rotten is such an egotistical person anyway. He just likes to do things to get attention. Sex pistols sucked
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COMMENT | anarchy...
posted by :
12/30/2004 3:19:35 PM
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"The song's lyrics espouse a nihilistic, emotive, and violent concept of anarchy that does not correspond to the views of any major trend of anarchist philosophy. The lyrics can be interpreted as satirical, mocking not only the government but also directionless or purely fashionable rebellion. "
Actually, today's concept of "anarchy" IS violent. All those protesters you see on the news are "anarchists".
Either way, it's the STUPIDEST concept EVER. It means "no government". I'm not the biggest backer of government, but you have to have SOME government!
Anarchy may work in theory, but only if you live in a society where everyone is cool and no one fucks with one another. Ever. If you have a city of 10 people, anarchy may work. For a month or so. Eventually it's going to fall apart because some asshole will ruin things. Now add another 10 people. And another 10 people. Anarchy will definitely not work. Add a million people. You're definitely going to have problems.
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COMMENT | Who gives a shit
posted by : R||F||H
12/30/2004 3:44:06 PM
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That song is the shitiest recording Megadeth has done
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COMMENT | Link?
posted by :
12/30/2004 4:03:13 PM
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Is there any link where it says Lydon sayd the Pistols weren't a punk band?
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COMMENT | THIS SAID
posted by :
12/30/2004 4:07:42 PM
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SEX PISTOLS ARE GAY, CROMAGS ARE GAYER
"NUFF SAID" - INCREDIBLE HULK - 1984
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COMMENT | WHO CARES WHEN PUNK STARTED
posted by :
12/30/2004 4:10:33 PM
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IT ENDED BEFORE IT STARTED
AS LONG AS WE KNOW WHEN METAL ITSELF STARTED. AROUND 78-79 IN ENGLAND. TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SABBATH'S PROTO METAL GETTING THE WHOLE BALL ROLLING..
THANKS BOYS
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COMMENT | When I Think "Punk",
posted by : 4givininhell
12/30/2004 4:26:06 PM
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I hear Black Flag, Fear, Circle Jerks, and the Pistols, DK had a kind of Punkish attitude also.
All these arguments over what punk is are irrelevant to the subjective listener.
The ramones are cool, but not dirty and raw enough for punk IMO
Same goes for the Clash, someone got it right when they said all the jocks liked the clash, they were just not fast or filthy enough music wise for my tastes.
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COMMENT | Cut Mustaine some slack...
posted by : JoeMomma
12/30/2004 7:07:06 PM
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Bet he was so coked out during the recording of 'So Good...' that I'm surprised he even got some of the lyrics correct.
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COMMENT | Meh
posted by : stickyshooZ
12/31/2004 11:23:02 AM
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Sex Pistols suck anyways.
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COMMENT |
posted by : gunnarcannibal
1/1/2005 10:11:31 PM
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the sex pistols were a joke and rotten is a useless human being who has no reason to be heard...fuck him
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