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JUDAS PRIEST: First 'Angel Of Retribution' Chart Positions Revealed
- Mar. 6, 2005
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JUDAS PRIEST's "Angel of Retribution" has entered the Finnish album chart at position No. 6. In addition, the group's first studio album with singer Rob Halford in 14 years has debuted at position No. 4 on the Japanese national album chart. In other news, Wire Image has uploaded a number of high-quality pictures from PRIEST's show at the Globen arena in Stockholm, Sweden on February 26. Check them out at this location. The group's complete setlist for the Stockholm show can be found here. (Thanks: Rockdetector.com)
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COMMENT |
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:14:00 AM
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PRIEST!!! AoR freaken rocks... such a good album.
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COMMENT | nice
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:15:33 AM
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Amazing fucking album. We need albums like this right now more then ever.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:29:54 AM
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Good to see the ole guys going strong again with halford back.
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COMMENT | Hardly
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:33:15 AM
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a great result. The Finnish market is not exactly a huge one.
On the back of this latest feable attempt at restoring former glories Priest should just give it away.
Kull the Valusian.
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COMMENT | Killer Album.....
posted by : FugaziOsbourne
3/6/2005 1:41:16 AM
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Priest still rules!!!
I guess Tues. was a pretty good day for ex Racer X members... (Scott Travis w/ Priest and Juan Alderette on bass for the Mars Volta (not metal but still pretty killer musically) both with cd's out on Tues).
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COMMENT | kull
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:47:44 AM
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In a day and age where nu metal and cock rock bullshits is plagueing the states we need bands to grow some balls and put out more metal albums like this. What do you call a good album if not this one? Its far from technical like the shit i listen to now but it sounds old school and kicks some ass.
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COMMENT | Priest in Finland
posted by :
3/6/2005 2:25:14 AM
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All 5 acts before Priest on the Finnish chart are domestic bands so not bad at all for Priest!
AoR is a killer album!
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COMMENT | Go Metal!!
posted by :
3/6/2005 2:59:16 AM
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A REAL metal album in the charts, somewhere in the world? Man, I never thought I'd live to see the day. It must be Christmas come early. If I weren't still hungover, I'd say (to quote Slash) "It's five o'clock somewhere"... Go JUDAS FUCKING PRIEST!!
Mmm... Beer... c(_)
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COMMENT | AOR
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/6/2005 3:22:10 AM
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Perhaps "AoR" = Adult Oriented Rock?
I didn't like the album enough to buy it. Downloaded it, listened to it a few times, then deleted it.
Reunite with Ripper!! (but don't do another "Demolition" please)
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COMMENT | Hey Kull
posted by : Itwalksamongus
3/6/2005 3:46:34 AM
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Your feeble attempt at spelling "feeble" is today's biggest Blabbermouth joke. Congratulations.
I see you've added an "L" to your screen name. Get banned for being too stupid? It was that whole "America is a continent" thing, wasn't it?
Idiot.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
3/6/2005 3:57:13 AM
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Heard the single. Don't like it. won't support 'em...
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COMMENT | Kull:
posted by : MeshuggahRocksTheParty
3/6/2005 4:00:31 AM
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I am American. I am genetically half-european. I am tellling you right now. Get a life.
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COMMENT | Also...
posted by : MeshuggahRocksTheParty
3/6/2005 4:06:55 AM
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Also...the band Norma Jean AND their new CD (O, God The Aftermath) is fucking pretty sweet, conisdering I am drunk right now.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
3/6/2005 4:48:53 AM
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Dude who gives a fuck about that trendy metalcore bullshit. Quit raining on priests parade fuck.
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COMMENT | kull
posted by :
3/6/2005 5:01:03 AM
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your comment on the new killer priest cd proves you know nothing at all about music. this cd kicks ass! the first 6 songs smoke and blow everything else that passess for metal today away. what's wrong to heavy for your wimpy italian ass?
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COMMENT | lol
posted by :
3/6/2005 5:04:53 AM
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kull=PWNED
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COMMENT | Tooth & Nail
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/6/2005 5:38:55 AM
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Your verbosity, your sheer command of the subtleties of the English language, the way you use arguments to make a point, I can but humbly bow. I can now only admit Halford is technically superior to Ripper, that AoR owns utterly and Judas Priest is every bit as relevant today as they were in the 80s.
Oh yeah...I should admit also that the above part of this message is filled with untruths.
In case your retarded 8-year-old Forrest Gump intellect doesn't grasp this: This is in-ten-ded as an in-sult.
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COMMENT | DEFENDING...
posted by :
3/6/2005 5:40:22 AM
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THE FAITH!!!!!!
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COMMENT | wtf
posted by :
3/6/2005 5:43:33 AM
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Dont make me lock a judas fucking piece thread because you fucks cant accept the fact that "darwins waiting room" "Simon says" dont sell any more albums or get the korn tours. death to false metal long live real metal.
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COMMENT | PRIEST
posted by :
3/6/2005 6:29:31 AM
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RULES!!!!! AOR RULES TOO!
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COMMENT | Once again....
posted by : psycoma
3/6/2005 6:44:01 AM
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...our feeble minded Kull has proven that suicide is his only option!!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
3/6/2005 6:46:53 AM
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Very good album
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COMMENT | wow
posted by :
3/6/2005 7:01:49 AM
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ppl around here keep suggesting to KULL to get a life while proving time and again that their very existence on blabbermouth is to bash him.....good or bad he was statin his opinion on the priest album and if u guys disagree try puttin forth some valid points abt why the album is good instead of spewing forth adjectives..anyway on the subject at hand i aint a huge priest fan but anythin with the metal god is better than the feeble attempts with ripper owens......
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COMMENT | Different perspective on AOR
posted by :
3/6/2005 7:24:40 AM
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Much has been said about this album. The basic consensus being, it's typical Priest - but if you didn't like Priest before hand, it's unlikely this album will convert you. Of course if it does, that's great.
AOR is a mild curiosity in the Priest discography. Priest on every album have tried to progress and push forward, certainly more so than the likes of Maiden or Sabbath. This has resulted in high praise (Painkiller) on one hand, and the stereotypical chants of sell out crap (Turbo/Demolition) on the other. AOR fails to do anything new, and it's the only album I can think that really falls into this category. The only track which seems to be doing anything new or interesting is Lochness. Typically, because this track requires a different set of listening skills to appreciate it though compared to say 'Screaming For Vengeance, the track is denounced somewhat.
For me, I'd rather have a crap album that did something new, than a good album which is a repeat of previous motifs. This is a minority view in metal subculture however. Most metalheads are quite adverse to the idea of progression, preffering bands that sound more or less the same. This makes sense because it gives these folks continuity in their lives, and a basis with which to form their 'nu-metal is for posers, this is the real stuff' ideology/elitist way of thinking, thereby crudely reinforcing what Freud would refer to as the super-ego. A band who dares to change, does not allow for this methodology as far as musical appreciation goes and is thus usually remmembered for but a few albums (Priest, Metallica both fall into this category).
Problem with AOR is, because there's nothing new on it, the album becomes nothing more than a track by track comparison to previous Priest efforts. Even something like Turbo, an album I personally dislike, there's no point comparing it to British Steel as it requires a different set of listening skills in order to appreciate it. These conventions I have never cared to adopt and I admitt that. Despite this, the vast majority of metallers won't look beyond these intrinsic differences in style in order to adopt new methodologies towards a wider discourse of musical appreciation and thus will try to listen to something like Turbo in the same way as they will Sad Wings Of Destiny. Frustrating for the artist I imagine and leads to one inevitable conclusion - eventual musical repetition. In the case of AOR, such is true.
AOR's sole basis for it's appeal is, the fact that it's got Halford on it. For a lot of metal fans this is the first Priest album since 1990. Priest knew this and thus, as Kull suggested, rode the wings of retro-active passivity as far as creativity goes. In this respect, AOR is more of a sell out than Turbo, because it's appealing only to the minds of those folk who wanna hear the sound of by gone decades. It is, for all intensive purposes, Priest toning down their creative elements to appeal to the masses. And, by and large, it has worked.
At the end of the day, Priest worked very hard at getting to the top by being creative, and it hasn't worked. Who can blame 'em for cashing in on their old sound - those elements with proven mass appeal? This accounts for the constant in- refferencing in the lyrics...
I find AOR enjoyable, but I think the song writing (apart from Lochness) is poor. There's no where near enough guitar solo's, and the songs are way way way too short for a band that's been around 30 years. AC/DC can get away with that kinda thing, from Priest I expect a lot more.
There in lies the problem for the listener. If you expect something new from AOR as is Priests usual prerogative, you'll dislike it. If you're the ultimate in metal stereotype and just want something easy and friendly to your ears then you'll love it. AOR is an okay album, but I really doubt people will be listening to it in twenty years. For any other band that's a fine premise, for Priest however it's totally unacceptable.
Just my view, let the bashing commence...
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COMMENT | OwenAdrift
posted by :
3/6/2005 7:46:36 AM
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Try listening to the rest of the album...
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COMMENT | lol
posted by :
3/6/2005 10:52:41 AM
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Good point. Problem with ur hypothesis is you equate 'new' with 'nu'. Let's face it 'nu' hasn't been 'new' for well over a decade now.
As far as accepting a turd folded in gold, well you'd get points for effort, but you can't fit a turd in your CD player, be it gold or not. Believe me, I've tried. You're right though, art for art's sake is as pointless a venture as reciting the style of a by gone age.
I stand by my point. Reffering to your example; nu-metal was and is a crap genre. That's my personal opinion. But despite that, I'm glad nu-metal happened. If it hadn't happened, all we'd have had throughout the nineties was a serious of progressively deteriorating eighties bands, desperately holding on to age old cliche's. The result would have been the death of metal. Nu-metal was as important as death metal in the way that it affected metal subculture. I'm not saying it affected it in a good way - but change is necessary.
Were it not for nu-metal however, or should I say people's hatred of nu-metal we wouldn't have some of the good bands we have today. To give a similar example, in the eighties you have all the glam metal shit. The presence of the glam metal shit, created a bi-polar juxtaposition of musical elements out of which the thrash revolution was born. Thrash was inevitable anyway granted, but it was fueled in part at least by hatred of it's opposite which dominated the mainstream.
So yes, new is better. Even if it's shit. If it is shit, then there will inevitably be its equal/and or opposite. Binarism for lack of a better word.
Without new styles and new genre's, be they good or bad metal will never evolve. Musical styles which live in the past die out, that's a proven fact which applies not only to metal but all musical types.
My point simply was that Judas Priest have never fallen into this pitfall until Angel Of Retribution. Without new elements to make it distinct from it's predecessor, it's only grounds for importance is the fact that it's a reunion album (of sorts).
Albums that are 'nostalgia' efforts often sound good upon first listen, but leave nothing worth coming back to in five years. Albums that are 'new', whether in a positive or negative context, at least have the potential to change and have an effect, for better or for worse. Albums that are just 'nostalgia' based seldom change anything in the long run. Unless there is a whole movement of 'nostalgia' bands, like the whole 70's rock craze that happened a couple of years ago (is that still going on? I've not listened to radio in so long), there are of course exceptions to the rule.
Case example - i'm not a huge fan of the new Haunted album. But i'm glad they sound like that and aren't just putting out clone 4 of their debut... It's better they evolve than become complaicent. Complaicency is the virtue of the ignorant. Ignorance will bring forth the death of all things - music, philosophy, society even. It is the enemy.
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COMMENT | Tooth & Nail
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/6/2005 11:00:20 AM
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I guessed sarcasm would be too difficult for you to grasp. Even the blatant bit at the end didn't manage to get you with the program.
Estimating your age at 8 was an insult to 8-year-olds.
They'll let any kid operate a computer these days. Please stick to "Big Birds Goes Fishing" next time, Tooth&Nail.
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COMMENT | Metal Gods
posted by :
3/6/2005 11:01:12 AM
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Great album! Rob and the guy's still have it and it sounds better than all of the rummors that had been floating around you cannot make everyone happy.
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COMMENT | the holy ferret
posted by :
3/6/2005 11:40:39 AM
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"The presence of the glam metal shit, created a bi-polar juxtaposition of musical elements out of which the thrash revolution was born."
I am sorry but I have to disagree, thrash was born in the early 80's. Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, Exodus. All these bands were jamming and putting out albums before 80's cock rock. If not all entirely before, certainly at the same time or around the same time. Thrash wasnt the result of anything more than musicians wanting to go as far and as fast as they could in the 80's.
I think if you insert death metal in place of thrash you would be most correct in this point you were making.
As far as Nu-metal, it really didnt effect me 9 or ten years ago. If it wasnt for Nu then the whole alternative thing wouldve lastest longer than it did. Again, resulting in a longer return of metal.
I do agree that the new Priest is the same stuff that was made 15 years ago, nothing has changed hence an album that will not be memorable in the years to come.
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COMMENT | arse monkey
posted by : trash
3/6/2005 11:50:33 AM
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he is a man who waits till his penis is hard ,then he puts it in another mans bottom .
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COMMENT | BORAT!! ^^^
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:01:18 PM
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I'm not sure in what context you meant that, but it's ALWAYS time for a Borat reference. Save one thing... replace the word "Penis" with "Hrrum".
"Jagshamesh. I come to Henley Rigatta, where old English gentlemen stare at muscly boys in a boat shaped like man's hrrum."
Mmm... Beer... c(_)
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COMMENT | Dissapointed
posted by :
3/6/2005 1:51:57 PM
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AOR is decent.I thought it would be better being that Halford is back in the band.The song Loch Ness is so fucking BORING!!!
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COMMENT | Lochness
posted by : Loudnessguy
3/6/2005 2:52:42 PM
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" Lochness Confess Your Terror Of The Deep
Lochness Distress
Malingers What You Keep
Lochness Protects Monstrosity
Lochness Confess To Me "
......it doesn't get any better than that metalheads
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COMMENT | I really like AoR and I'm glad to have them back
posted by : biggusdickus
3/6/2005 4:29:27 PM
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but I can't say that the album blows me away.
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COMMENT | destructo_dog
posted by : trash
3/6/2005 6:05:23 PM
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do you have a message for the gay communitty ?
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COMMENT | Damn....I love this album....
posted by : KISSOFF 2004
3/6/2005 7:15:58 PM
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....I disagree with one point of Ferret's detailed analysis...I do think Priest have tried new things on this cd...pushed things foward in a different direction a little...mainly on the two tracks that seem to be the most divisive among fans..."Revolution" and "Lochness". And some of the vocal approaches Rob tries on this...("Hellrider" comes to mind) seems closer to the direction the 'Halford' material was moving towards than copying Priest's golden era.
But overall, yes, this is Priest making a cd that tries to cover all the bases for fans of all eras.
Kerrang called it possibly the bands best ever...
Popoff gave it an 8.5 and glowing review...
Its not hype...the Metal Gods delivered!!!!!
Fave Track: "Demonizer"
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COMMENT | KISSOFF 2004
posted by :
3/6/2005 9:51:26 PM
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I would agree with that actually, they've altered the style ever so slightly and the songs seem tighter and more focused. I would agree with the view that Demonizer is the best track on the album. Plus, I know people keep saying that the album is the same as their older stuff, but I think the advancements made in production since then gives their newer material a crisper sound and I like the comparison, also it kind of makes the point that soooo much music from the late 60's to the mid 80's would sound superb with modern production. I like that because alot of the material from these years by so many bands sounds superb anyway, but with modern production techniques would sound jaw dropping even in comparison to it's original sound. Imagine Led Zeppelin with the kind of production equipment available today for example, the Jimmy Page of the 1970's would have had a field day with it!
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COMMENT | oh yeah and to make it relevant (sorry!)
posted by :
3/6/2005 9:53:19 PM
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- and this is what I feel Priest have done with the songs that mimic their earlier material.
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COMMENT | Holy Ferret
posted by : ghostofmetalpast
3/6/2005 10:34:36 PM
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Why the showy post-structuralist/deconstructionist literary analysis rhetoric? Are you in a Comp Lit or Cultural Studies grad program or something? All those types of guys I knew in grad school spent six years reading Derrida trying to explain away the great books of Western culture rather than reading the great books themselves.
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COMMENT | Tooth & Nail
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/7/2005 1:31:24 AM
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You apparently missed my very witty post just a few above your latest. Well hey, you can't have everything. I reckoned it was very witty anyway, but not even my wife agrees that I am witty at all times. Maybe it was a verbal dud.
You claim you are grown up, but when someone says they don't like an album you happen to like you say, "Die".
I am sincerely sorry that I didn't then instantly spot you for the mature adult you obviously are. I will endeavour to not make such mistakes again.
Everyone who loves hardrock (musically) will want Owens back in Priest. Those who are blinded (or I should say 'deafened') by nostalgia are happy now Halford is back. Me, I'd rather give "'98 Metal Meltdown" another whir in the player, or "Jugulator".
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COMMENT | Tooth&Nail - The discussion continued
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/7/2005 7:26:14 AM
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Like so many things this is all a matter of taste. I don't like Halford's post-Painkiller, constricted-throat squealing. I saw Halford at Graspop a few years back and I was relieved when they cut his set short (he was running too long). Too bad the Priest covers were in that part of the set.
I am not related to Tim, I just admire his power and vocal range. He technically so owns Halford - which is to be expected, really, given the age difference.
Still, I'm going to see Priest on April 2nd and I'll no doubt have a good time. My karaoke filter that allows me to listen to Cradle of Filth will no doubt filter out Halford, too.
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COMMENT | Oh Yeah...
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/7/2005 7:29:24 AM
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Sure Jugulator is better than AoR. "Burn in Hell" alone outclasses many classic JP tracks. It's at a par, musically, with "Painkiller" and "Touch of Evil"... and Ripper's vocals make it stand out head and shoulder.
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COMMENT | The weird thing is...
posted by : CronosWarchild
3/7/2005 9:58:00 AM
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...that the new Iced Earth album was crap.
You mentioned that Ripper was in a grunge-style cover band. I thought it was a JP tribute band? Well hey, I am not much of a trivia buff.
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COMMENT | ghostofmetalpast
posted by :
3/7/2005 12:06:51 PM
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I take your point. Often over analysis draws attention away from what makes the object good in the first place, be that a literary source, musical or whatever. I don't think I fell into that pitfall though, there is much to enjoy on AOR. But people never stop to consider why this is so, beyond saying "well I like the sound". Which is the most basic and crude response that even a five year old can come up with. I do not intend to conform to the metal stereotype of the braindead loser who's desperately holding onto an imaginary place of importance in minority sub-culture in order to fuel some elitist fulfilment of the ego. That's just cliche to the extreme.
The closest anyone gets to analysing anything within metal sub-culture is saying "it's shit because it doesn't sound like Sad Wings". That is wrong. I don't see why you shouldn't analyse metal the same way you would analyse literature or film. Metal has a valid place as art and can and should be studied as such. If only to get away from the crude and vague descriptions and/or discussions that frequent these boards. People say "if you want intellect, don't listen to metal, go read Milton". That's ignorance, I don't see why you shouldn't treat metal with the same respect and intelligence as you would Milton.
Of course I'm a big hypocrite here as I don't usually try to post anything remotely intelligent on here as it's mostly a waste of time. Hence my usual ravings about how kvlt nekro and satanic everything is/should be (Norwegianly speaking that is.... sataaaaaaaaannnnnnnn!!!!). It's fun though occaissionally to say something worth while.
HAIL PINGU THE PENGRIM !!!
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