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ESQUIRE Magazine 'Makes A Joke' Out Of DIMEBAG's Murder: Page Scan Available
- Apr. 13, 2005
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A BLABBERMOUTH.NET visitor by the name of Scott Whitt has sent in the following item: "I just bought the latest issue of Esquire, April 2005. The last page is an article 'This Way Out' by Brian Frazer. In it he makes a joke out of the murder of Dimebag. There is a pyramid of 'Recommended Daily of Vice.' On the top is a section 'Use Sparingly' and in it is 'Shooting ex-guitarists from PANTERA.' I think it is horrible for someone to make light of this tragic situation. We in the metal community should voice this. I sent an e-mail already and would hope everyone could do the same. There is not [an e-mail address] for the author, just esquire@hearst.com. I hope we can make our voices heard." Check out a scan of the Esquire page in question at this location.
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COMMENT | BASTARD!
posted by : 4/13/2005 10:34:44 PM
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I'll be sending several e-mails.
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posted by : 4/13/2005 10:42:42 PM
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hmm. i think people are way too sensitive. you can joke about something and take it seriously at the same time.
i think racist jokes are great and i'm not the least bit racist. that sort of thing.
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COMMENT | Fuck Esquire
posted by : Nivek 4/13/2005 10:48:55 PM
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You'd think they'd pick a better topic to make light of. Fuck it, sending a "non death threat" E-mail to the Editor, if that will get anything more than an apoligy, I'd be surprised.
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COMMENT | FUCK ESQUIRE MAG!!
posted by : ~CAIN~ 4/13/2005 10:54:01 PM
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That is fucking lame. Fuck those guys at Esqueer Magazine for printing that lame shit.
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COMMENT | Truly not funny... and yet...
posted by : Gery Vermin 4/13/2005 10:54:42 PM
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...how many members of the "metal community" would've chuckled insanely if it had been "skiing with Sonny Bono", "flying with John Denver" or "dieting with Karen Carpenter" instead? What was your first reaction to hearing S.O.D.'s "Ballad Of Jimi Hendrix"? It all boils down to "funny" being in the eye of the beholder. While Frazer's jest IS in extremely poor taste, neither Pantera or Damageplan are exactly known for going with the grain. I attended Chuck Billy's Clash Of The Titans a couple of years back and, during the S.O.D. set, it was all fun and games when the band did "...Hendrix", "...Freddy Mercury" and "...Michael Hutchence", however, Billy Milano was booed for suggesting they do "The Ballad Of Joey Ramone". Funny... or not? Parents/Religious groups/Whoever will never stop Phil Anselmo from blathering his incessant onstage rants and emails from "us" will never stop clueless journalistic assholes from saying hurtful things. Welcome to the other side of The First Amendment.
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posted by : 9inchnails 4/13/2005 11:10:49 PM
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it's really not even that offensive... could've been worse. just seem stupid at most, but nothing to have a seizure about.
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posted by : stz1959 4/13/2005 11:11:32 PM
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It doesn't even make sense.
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COMMENT | Contact page for Esquire
posted by : childrenofthedamned 4/13/2005 11:18:04 PM
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Send your comments on their webform.
http://www.esquire.com/talk/
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COMMENT | what a nasty thing :[
posted by : 4/13/2005 11:20:10 PM
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They should be ashamed of making "jokes" like that!
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COMMENT | Gery Vermin
posted by : NORTRIX 4/13/2005 11:23:52 PM
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your a dick this is a little too soon for this "joke". Cock licker This little article doesn't even make sence! Fuckin hell to pay.
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posted by : 4/13/2005 11:24:15 PM
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Yeah, and somehow people making fun of the Michael Jackson situation is so much more tasteful and less outrageous...
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COMMENT | THERE'S A COMPANY FIRM YOU'LL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH
posted by : mrpunchy 4/13/2005 11:32:21 PM
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AKA "HEADCASE DESIGN"
THIS IS NOT GOOD AT ALL. IT'S WRONG TO REFER TO THAT MENTAL SHOOTER AND JOKE ON DIME'S DEATH.
SEND EMAILS TO ESQUIRE OR CALL EM.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 4/13/2005 11:32:37 PM
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I had subscribed to that magazine for 2 years, now I remember why I didn't renew...
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COMMENT | GET OVER IT PEOPLE
posted by : 4/13/2005 11:39:53 PM
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DIMEBAG HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 4 MONTHS ALREADY. TIME 2 MOVE ON. HE WAS A DRUNKEN BAFOON ANYWAY... SOEITHER WAY HE WAS GOING 2 DIE. JUST HAPPENED THAT A DARRANGED LUNATIC SAWL AN OPURTUNITY AND TOOK. THE ARTICLE BY THEM WASEN'T OFFENSIVE. THEY HAVE THEIR OPINION AND IF U DON'T LIKE IT JUST IGNORE IT.MAN... PEOPLE ARE SO SENSITIVE.
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COMMENT | Silenced
posted by : Post Mortem 4/13/2005 11:47:18 PM
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Do you have high blood pressure?
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COMMENT | The article...
posted by : 4/13/2005 11:50:38 PM
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Was really a PATHETICALLY lame (albeit rather tasteless in the eyes of the metal community) attempt at humour than an attempt at outright shock. That said, it was still in pretty poor taste.
And to the guy above me, who said Dime was just a drunken buffoon... fuck you very much. In fact, fuck you in the ear with a barbed-wire laced rotan.
Mmm... Beer... c(_)
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COMMENT | Gary Vermin
posted by : Iamthekingofthesouthshore 4/13/2005 11:54:55 PM
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Good post. I can't believe there is a rational man around here. If anything the author is saying to shoot ex Pantera band guitarists SPARINGLY. Maybe he is a fan?
On the other end of the scale it's the sort of stuff that I'm guessing a good portion of metalheads imbibed/did/still doing? in their youth, or not so youth. It's a sendup folks. Yeah, he referenced Dimebag...but maybe it's not bad. Hell, the fact Dimebag made it into "mainstream (albeit shit) media" says a lot about his legacy.
For the record, I don't even think it's funny. Just kinda pathetic. Send an email if you want, rally the troops, but at least find out what the guy meant before castrating him.
This is the kinda stuff Priest went trough with the PMRC guys...only you're dishing it out.
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COMMENT | Not funny
posted by : lemmy33 4/13/2005 11:55:50 PM
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Not funny at all.
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posted by : 4/14/2005 12:03:02 AM
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even for a joke it was sad as hell... i was trying to take it lightly and it was just a fuckin stupid joke... you dont joke about that shit anyways..
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posted by : MinstrelOfWrath 4/14/2005 12:07:47 AM
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The joke wasn't funny, but it was still a joke. Distasteful yes, but usually the best jokes are a little distasteful. The metal community shouldn't be a bunch of overly-sensitive whiney pricks. If you don't like it, don't buy the fucking magazine.
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COMMENT | Hmmm...
posted by : 4/14/2005 12:13:58 AM
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"Hell, the fact Dimebag made it into "mainstream (albeit shit) media" says a lot about his legacy..."
Wow, you just added an insult to the injury...
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COMMENT | Well said Gary Vermin
posted by : JoeMomma 4/14/2005 12:18:04 AM
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I mean, how many of us would have a problem with this article if it poked fun at an artist in a different genre that was killed?
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COMMENT | that didn't strike me. . .
posted by : 4/14/2005 12:49:28 AM
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as offensive or funny, just really dumb. They actually pay people to come up with boring shit like that?
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posted by : 4/14/2005 1:02:22 AM
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I don't know what to think. People here have made very good points.
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COMMENT | It's in Esquire;
posted by : 4/14/2005 1:17:40 AM
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isn't that punishment enough?
blessed be.
n/p:"Evil"- Interpol
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COMMENT | ESQUEER IS A GAY ASS MAG...
posted by : 4/14/2005 1:34:09 AM
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FUCK THAT MAGAZINE AND FUCK ANYONE THAT SUBSCRIBES TO IT. PERIOD. END OF FUCKIN STORY...
DIME WILL LIVE BEYOND FOREVER...
THE DOOM CREW MISSES YOU BROTHER...
BLACK LABEL SOCIETY-LOS ANGELES CHAPTER-DOOM CREW...
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COMMENT | It was extremely tacky...
posted by : Von Doom 4/14/2005 3:00:44 AM
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and about as enjoyable as root canal without anesthetic.
Then again, Esquire IS another useless yuppie assrag.
If you like spending 3+ bucks on "flavoured" coffee at Starbucks, then you probably enjoy Esquire.
To me it's low grade campfire starter.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 4/14/2005 3:16:05 AM
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well, i'm a little pissed at that. pretty lame fucking humor. of course the dude who made that probably had to use someone like Dime instead of someone like Green Day or Interpol or Eminem, so that they wouldn't risk getting a shitload of shit. they probably figured they'd use someone less known to the uninformed lameass conformist sheep that buy their bullshit magazine. whatever. fuck 'em. if that magazine ever in a hundred years would ever have anything of interest to me they lost any chance with that horseshit.
DIME!!!!
MESHUGGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | can't be arsed
posted by : mortix 4/14/2005 4:29:28 AM
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it's not even funny; nothing on that page is. (don't really care about the dimebag remark on that page though)
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COMMENT | ESquire ????
posted by : 4/14/2005 4:30:31 AM
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WHO GIVES A FLYING YELLOW FUCK ABOUT ESQUIRE. NOT FUCKING ME!! but I do give a shit about Dime. This is in poor taste period> HE FUCKIN DIED>HE WAS FUCKIN MURDERED E mails to this brian piece of shit is someting every one should do. FUCK HIM
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COMMENT | Sad!
posted by : 4/14/2005 4:45:59 AM
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Who the fuck reads that shit anyway?
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COMMENT | At least one guy...^^^
posted by : 4/14/2005 6:03:35 AM
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Namely the B-Mouth visitor who tipped off the folks here about the article. Come out, come out, wherever you are...
Mmm... Beer... c(_)
P.S. Is this the same Esquire magazine that posted a rather dubious list of the "best guitarists" or something?
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COMMENT | If You'd Care To Find Brian Frazer
posted by : 4/14/2005 6:09:03 AM
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If anyone out there would seriously care to find Brian Frazer, to personally let him know your feelings about his work (in a refined literary manner, of course), here are a few leads: A simple Google search has turned up an equally dull-witted article on breakupgirl.net about picking up women in L.A. At the end of it, it reads:
"Brian Frazer has written for The Tom Green Show, David Letterman, and MadTV".
Then there's this limp, miserable junk I'd be willing to bet he wrote, located here: http://www.showandtellshow.com/essays/nerves%20of%20foam%20-%20b%20frazer.pdf The web-site Showandtell is filled with transcripts of shows put on by writer/performers who work around L.A.
All the signs point to the fact that he lives in LA. Now, how many Brian Frazers can there be in the phone book? Only one way to find out...
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing his ass get kicked--not so much for the lame Dime comment, but more because he just writes the lamest, most boring shit! What a hack!
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COMMENT |
posted by : xlegionx 4/14/2005 6:26:26 AM
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What the fuck is Esquire?
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posted by : xlegionx 4/14/2005 7:00:33 AM
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Well, personally, I like the sweet oil that stays with you. And the second hand smoke kicks ass unlike other cigarettes.
Never tried kreteks though.
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COMMENT | that' so....
posted by : b00ger1 4/14/2005 8:09:27 AM
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fucking great! it's about time someone wrote something about it. He was a guitarist in a band that knowbody here knew. He might have been a great guy, personable etc.... but so was Joe Schmoe that is laying at your local coroner. He wasn't a serious national figure searching out peace, or a person who made a profound impact on the world, maybe your little worlds but not the world of reality.
Sorry but he doesn't deserve the pedastal you guys put him on.. he was just a guitarist in a band.. period.
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COMMENT | More people should be like Dimebag...
posted by : 4/14/2005 8:14:10 AM
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After reading these lame comments about how you shouldn't joke about these things I came to one conclusion...
More people should be like Dimebag, dead.
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COMMENT | Another thought...
posted by : 4/14/2005 8:19:34 AM
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I couldn't care less that he's dead... But the killer made one big mistake, he made a halfassed guitarist who didn't make the slightest difference to music what so ever, a legend...
He doesn't deserve that praise, his shitty band came at the worst time possible and contributed to the shitswamp of music which we all refer to as the 90's... Only 2 great bands came in the 90's, and those we're In Flames and Children Of Bodom... Both with much better guitarists than Dimebag could ever wish to be... This isn't even an opinion, it's a fact.
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COMMENT | Dammit...
posted by : 4/14/2005 8:21:20 AM
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were, not we're...
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COMMENT | something to think about
posted by : 4/14/2005 8:30:17 AM
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I know we all love dime and miss him........But go through the archives here on articles during the Pantera feud. Fuckloads of people here were slamming Dime at any chance they had, now everyones all "Oh RIP Dime, man he was the greatest". You fucktard hypocrites.
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COMMENT |
posted by : jackcake 4/14/2005 9:01:26 AM
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I don't get it. Who gives a shit anyway? I'm a Dimebag fan but he's fair game just like Diana Spencer and the Pope.
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COMMENT | KickedintheMind
posted by : Gery Vermin 4/14/2005 9:02:36 AM
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"Fucktard"... now THERE'S a keeper! Gotta write that one down. Well said.
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COMMENT | sulan..
posted by : severedsavior 4/14/2005 11:00:10 AM
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you're an idiot...damn you're an idiot. i didn't take the article offensive, it was just plain stupid. and a lot of people made good posts here. i won't send email and shit like that...
but dimebag was a great fucking guitarist...
Alexi Laiho or whatever the hell his name is...is indeed a great guitarist...but boring IMO.
and inflames....i mean no offence to their fans...BUT INFLAMES SUCK!!!
not COB nor INFLAMED will ever influence as many people to start learning to play guitar as Dimebag did...and that's a fact.
and yes...i rather listen to the more underground music...but dimebag is a guitar legend way before he ever got killed...atleast for me he was. i learned to do pinch harmonics,divebombs etc. all by reading his columns and observing him play...he was original...
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COMMENT | ^^it is true
posted by : severedsavior 4/14/2005 11:07:33 AM
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that the murder made him more famous than he ever was. and there are people who never liked him that now suddenly praise him.
but this guy had a major influence before he ever got murdered.
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COMMENT | geez...
posted by : mc 4/14/2005 11:32:42 AM
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nothing to get all anal about. let it go & move on.
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COMMENT | Fuck you motherfuckers.
posted by : 4/14/2005 11:33:24 AM
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Dime was a legend to me LOOONG before he was killed. All the smartasses and haters can go suck Tommy Lee's fucking cock as punishment and hope that you aren't chocked to death by it. Sulan Booger1 Bloodpollution ...you're on deck fuckers.
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COMMENT | Not funny
posted by : 4/14/2005 2:13:53 PM
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Someone posed a question above about getting a chuckle over a joke about Sonny Bono. Me, personally YES, I AM THAT UPTIGHT, and I wouldn't find any humor in it.
There is no humor in the tragic accidental death, or murder of a wonderful human being, BOTTOM LINE. I miss Dime, and nobody has the right to put a time-limit on my grief, so if that displeases anyone, please feel free to thoroughly fuck yourselves...
Fuck Esquire fucking magazine.
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COMMENT | FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.....................
posted by : 4/14/2005 3:51:14 PM
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Sulan...it's good to know you know nothin' about guitarists our who's better. Dime was one of the best, and the other guitarists are as we speak, wishing they could have just a little of the talent that Dime had. You are the fuck stick of the week, It would do you good not to post on here again, unless you want all of us to know how deep your stupidity runs.
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COMMENT | Wow, you're still a tool..
posted by : Iamthekingofthesouthshore 4/14/2005 4:28:40 PM
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Violin, if I ever see you in the subway, I am going to pull your hair back and ram that violin of yours down your throat.
COMMENT | Hmmm... posted by : www.blackviolin.com 4/14/2005 12:13:58 AM "Hell, the fact Dimebag made it into "mainstream (albeit shit) media" says a lot about his legacy..."
Wow, you just added an insult to the injury...
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COMMENT | Esquire
posted by : rocknteacher 4/14/2005 6:08:38 PM
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This was a really lame attempt at humor, and I don't read Esquire, but imagine most of their attempts at humor are...Doesn't get me up in arms, though...I think if Dime saw it, he'd shrug and say "Funny..." and move on, and so should we all.
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COMMENT | Sent to the mag...
posted by : 4/14/2005 8:14:02 PM
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Your joke about the murder of one of metal’s great guitarists in your April issue is sick and disturbing. I won’t waste any more of my time telling your publishers how wrong it was, just like I don’t waste my time reading your shitty magazine. Fuck off.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 4/14/2005 8:29:41 PM
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I too sent a e-mail to them and explained that their article was in bad taste (espicially the picture of the guitar with the bullet holes). I hope the publication goes bankrupt.
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