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SOIL Bassist: DROWNING POOL 'Lied To Our Faces' - July 27, 2005
SOIL bassist Tim King has explained his decision to publicly slam the group's former singer, Ryan McCombs, for joining DROWNING POOL after McCombs allegedly deemed the songs on the first DROWNING POOL album "average."

As previously reported, DROWNING POOL are believed to be have recruited McCombs to replace their last vocalist, Jason "Gong" Jones, who left the band in early June.

The revamped DROWNING POOL will be making a one-off appearance at this year's Ozzfest on August 25 at the Smirnoff Music Center in Dallas, Texas. The band will perform on the main stage in front of their hometown crowd in what promises to be the group's debut live appearance with McCombs, who has yet to be officially announced as the band's new lead singer.

In a posting on SOIL's official forum, King elaborated further on his criticism of McCombs for hooking up with DROWNING POOL after the departure of Jones:

"Listen guys, you ALL know how much I love and respect our fans. I say it all the time and show it all the time. I don't want anyone to feel like they have to choose sides, and you shouldn't, if you dont want to. You loved SOIL for the albums we previously did, and that is why you are here in the first place. I wouldn't take back anything we did on those albums. I am damn proud of them and all we did on them.

"The reason for my [previous] post was because I couldn't hold it in any longer. I have been for years and was willing to never say a word. But [Ryan] joining the band and with the events and real truth of what happened, I couldn't stand by and let the charade go on any further. I loved [late DROWNING POOL frontman] Dave [Williams] as a metal brother and a musician and we got pretty close over the year I knew him. The 'Sinner' record is still one of my favorites to this day as well as the new album ['Desensitized']. I think Jason Gong has an amazing voice as well. But when I hear a certain ex-singer of ours saying how close he was to Dave when he never even knew him properly or liked his album and THEN join that band when he said those shoes were too big to fill and never would do that is just plain wrong, in my opinion. To hear people say how great of a choice Ryan is to join DROWNING POOL because he was so close to Dave made me have to speak my mind because I saw first-hand the events that transpired and proved otherwise. That is the point of my post to set the record straight and voice my opinion on how hypocritical I think it is for him to join DROWNING POOL due to those facts. I would say those same comments about anyone who did that exact same thing.

"I take full responsibility for my words and will not take them back. I meant every single one of them. I feel betrayed by someone I considered a brother at one time and by a band I considered to once be brothers as well. Me and my band got lied to by all of them to our faces and never got the common courtesy of return phone calls. All of you on here speak your opinions. Why shouldn't I be able to to? This is a forum for my band after all, right?

"You guys asked the questions, I gave the answers… good or bad.

"This is all I have to say on the subject and i stand behind my words. Time to finish the new SOIL album and let the music do the talking."

Responding to Tim King's initial post, DROWNING POOL bassist Stevie Benton stated in a posting on DROWNING POOL's official forum, "Comedy. [Tim King] makes me laugh."
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COMMENT | Voorhees
posted by : Blackthorned
7/27/2005 7:33:26 AM

Why be so nasty about it? Metal? Who cares what is and isn't metal you elitist twat - nobody here needs you to tell them. There's no escuse for saying that about a man who died well before his time either.

COMMENT |
posted by : EmmysLemmy
7/27/2005 7:57:56 AM

DP is done with.

COMMENT | ^^^^^^^
posted by : xedhead
7/27/2005 7:58:49 AM

I agree, show some fucking respect.

COMMENT | Yep^^^^^^^
posted by : Thundergod777
7/27/2005 8:03:36 AM

I am a old scholl metal person but I like the new stuff too. I must say Sinner was a very good cd. I listen to Drowing pool, Mushroomhead, and Slipknot right along side Judas Preist, Slayer, and Black Sabbath. Of course I also listen to Industrial metal as well.......

COMMENT | Hey Craig3010
posted by : NeonKnite
7/27/2005 8:09:47 AM

I hope someone "pulls a gale" on you... you worthless piece of shit.

COMMENT | yeah come Craig3010..
posted by : voorhees
7/27/2005 8:14:35 AM

that was pretty cold.

COMMENT | LOL
posted by : WOLVERINEKILLS
7/27/2005 8:19:43 AM

What a better way to show no confidence in your singer, SOiL. If Ryan wants to be in DP- let him go. You need to hype your band, not shit talk DP.

COMMENT | Thundergod777
posted by : Algemar
7/27/2005 8:21:48 AM

Thank god i'm not the only one here that will admit that old stuff and new stuff can both be good. I think McCombs is a good choice (definitely better than Gong) for Drowning Pool. That bassist says that he left Soil to be with his family...did he ever consider that after two years perhaps he wasn't needed as much anymore and he needed to go back to music? It's a hard thing to turn away from.

COMMENT | BooHoo
posted by : BlackenedEarth
7/27/2005 8:39:11 AM

This guy sounds like he's just bitter. Someone get him some Vagisil to rub on his sore puss. Who gives a shit if Ryan said the first DP cd was average. I got news for ya - IT WAS. It's too bad what happened to Dave. But I bet he'd be callin you all dumbasses for talkin shit about each other. Both of these bands need the hype though, so I would guess the shit talkin ain't over...

COMMENT |
posted by : bassthumper
7/27/2005 8:49:45 AM

McCombs was soil

COMMENT | hmm,
posted by : 1994
7/27/2005 9:13:07 AM

this was almost half interesting yesterday. but now its just turned comical.
tim:
oh u lied to me. my bands better. im not taking what i said back, *sticks fingers in ears and pokes out tongue* i hate u ryan, ur so mean.

hey. stop using the death of dave to create publicity for ur band.

COMMENT | scoop
posted by : longsincedark
7/27/2005 9:50:13 AM

you took the words right out of my mouth...

dimebag forever

COMMENT | "Pull a Gale"
posted by : cfh8784
7/27/2005 10:03:00 AM

You worthless piece of shit. How dare you say something like that?

Brave little fella behind your computer. What are you? Some corpse-paint worshipping asshole that lives in his parents basement? Or are you some fashioncore dildo that is a complete elitist?

COMMENT | tosser
posted by : a7xangel
7/27/2005 10:16:39 AM

hey you voorhees you fucking retarded fucking nerdy cunting dickhead loser.
who are you to mouth off about poor davy.your just jealous coz he was in a great group and u never will be u lame dick turd.
davy was half the man you and whoever else calls him will EVER BE. so fuck off and die violently.noone wants to fucking hear your bullshit!

COMMENT |
posted by : burnthalo
7/27/2005 10:18:55 AM

Kind of weird that Soil's bassist is really close with Dave but Soil's singer isn't alowed to be. They toured a lot together, I would assume they all got close to him.

COMMENT |
posted by : NationOfHypocrisy
7/27/2005 10:37:34 AM

Where in there did TK even say anything about Drowning Pool lying to their faces?

COMMENT | a7xangel your right..
posted by : voorhees
7/27/2005 10:42:51 AM

dave was half the man i will ever be....god bless his fat bloated corpse....I

COMMENT | Well..
posted by : enyggma
7/27/2005 10:45:57 AM

I have to admit that for a while I didn't give Drowning Pool a chance but when I did sit down and listen to them I realized they had some good stuff. Of course I had t be open minded enough to sit down and at least give it a spin. With that said this bassist needs to get over it. People change, bands spilt..that is way things go. Maybe he and Ben Moody can form a support group for rock starts whose former band mates supposedly shit on them....

COMMENT | To NATIONOFHYPOCRISY
posted by : Van Helsing
7/27/2005 10:54:17 AM

>>>>Where in there did TK even say anything about Drowning Pool lying to their faces?


"Me and my band got lied to by all of them to our faces and never got the common courtesy of return phone calls."

COMMENT | Van Helsing
posted by : NationOfHypocrisy
7/27/2005 11:17:42 AM

Thanks. The headline should have read "Tim King Bitches Again" or something...hah...BM doesnt do headlines very well I suppose.

COMMENT | Sad world
posted by : MusicManOhio
7/27/2005 11:37:16 AM

It's hard to believe someone would run their mouth on two dead icons. Yes Dave Stage Willaims will be remembered by almost all rock fans, Hell Dimebag had him tatooed on him. " TO GALE SOMEONE" Might be the weakest cry for attention I think I have heard in a long long time. Believe what you want Craig but what goes around comes around. Hopefully 10 fold on your sorry ass.

Dime and DAVE
RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | eh
posted by : DLORE
7/27/2005 12:06:02 PM

Both of these bands suck.

COMMENT | you know what would be funny
posted by : wearethelost
7/27/2005 12:23:46 PM

if that guy from soil wasn't the new drowning pool singer. think about it, that would be fucking hilarious.

COMMENT | Voorhees eat's the plaque off sweaty jock balls
posted by : Nivek
7/27/2005 12:31:46 PM

Go fucking sniff more spray paint, you ignorent fuckwad. Feel safe talking shit here, talk about "Real" metal, when the only metal your interested in is the prince albert thats on your "Metal" boyfriends cock when he slips it into you waiting asshole. You fucking pussy!!!

COMMENT | voorhees u fucking cock................
posted by : themortician
7/27/2005 1:03:52 PM

voorhees u r a fucking cocksucking gay little mamas boy god i can picture u now i bet 2 years ago u listened to linking park and now u r all old school "OOHHH LOOK AT ME IM HARD I HATE DROWNING POOL AND SOIL" u ignorant piece of shit i hope u fucking die u worthless arsehole

COMMENT | Now, Now children...
posted by : Yngwie Cumstain
7/27/2005 1:15:45 PM

Lets play nice here. Remember, he who angers you, controls you. These individuals that say things like "pull a Gale" or "dead fat bastard" are irrelevant in this world. Take the platform from them; don't acknowledge them.

COMMENT | why are you 2 bands fighting?
posted by : fueledbyfailure
7/27/2005 1:39:20 PM

you both suck... hey tim, stop worrying about what is essentially the worst band (next to godsmack and creed) in the world and go back to playing some good metal... you remember oppressor, right? at least your first album was really good. go back to that and make some music that you can actually be proud of, instead of the commercial garbage you're making now. at least one of you guys went on to something good (12th gate).

COMMENT |
posted by : losttoapathy
7/27/2005 2:07:16 PM

wah, wah... get over it.

COMMENT |
posted by : saxx
7/27/2005 3:42:37 PM

when the fuck did they call themselves metal

COMMENT | Good Point
posted by : techno allah
7/27/2005 3:49:38 PM

They are Camp-rock

COMMENT |
posted by : jeffgq_1
7/27/2005 6:30:49 PM

cyber brawls are funny....that "pull a gale" dude needs to pull a cobain on himself....

COMMENT | lol, pussies
posted by : stazirulez
7/27/2005 8:58:32 PM

remind me to tell them to wipe the mascara off thier faces. who cares number one, both bands suck now. dave rocked, and soil is crap, they are from the town down the street from me, lemont, illinois. they think they rule the world when they goto shows. here's a clue, write better music, someone outside of illinois would listen to it. second, none of you fuckers and including me on this page, have any talent to really write a good song, otherwise we wouldn't be writing it here. so, go whack off to your internet porn while your mom tells you to goto bed, and halford rules
fuckin slayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | wow
posted by : DownaPanterafan
7/27/2005 10:43:59 PM

who cares dude from soil quit your bitching and move on well dont move on because you are not very good just sit there and cry

COMMENT | The dude from Soil
posted by : Uroboric Form Nirvana
7/27/2005 11:01:23 PM

Can really sing.



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