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CRADLE OF FILTH Fan Convicted Of Wearing 'Religiously Insulting' T-Shirt
- Oct. 28, 2005
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According to a story published in the October 18, 2005 edition of the Metro newspaper, a British teenage heavy metal fan has been handed a community service order for wearing an offensive t-shirt. Adam Shepherd, 19, was reportedly convicted under new anti-hate laws which ban people from displaying religiously insulting signs. The teenager was arrested after a woman complained to police when she saw his shirt, which promotes extreme heavy metal band CRADLE OF FILTH. The t-shirt shows a picture of a nun in a pornographic pose. On the back is a comment about Jesus (view the t-shirt design at this location). The top was being worn by Shepherd's girlfriend when a police officer approached her. As soon as the teenager realized there was a problem, he told the officer it was his and swapped tops with his girlfriend. But he refused to take it off or cover it up and was arrested. Shepherd, who bought the shirt in his hometown of Weymouth, Dorset, admitted the charge. Weymouth magistrates gave him 80 hours community service and told him to pay £40 costs (approx. $71). Meanwhile, MediaWatchWatch.org.uk reports that Adam "can't have been prosecuted under the 'new anti-hate laws' because they do not exist." However, a bit of research shows that the wearing of this T-shirt has led to at least two previous convictions in the U.K. Dale Wilson, 35, of Norwich, was arrested by two police officers as he walked to the newsagents on Halloween 2004. He pleaded guilty to "religiously aggravated offensive conduct." He was eventually discharged and told to "grow up." He paid £150 costs (approx. $266), and the judge ordered that the T-shirt be destroyed. Back in 1997, Rob Kenyon, 29, of London was found guilty of committing the offense of "Profane Representation under the 1839 Act" by Bow Street Magistrates Court. He was fined £150. CRADLE OF FILTH drummer Nicholas Barker was also arrested in Dover and charged with "creating a public disorder" for wearing the same t-shirt. There were no further proceedings against him. From the NME: In 2001, the then-Lord Provost of Glasgow, Alex Mosson, campaigned to have the t-shirt prevented from being sold at Tower Records. The record shop was raided on two occasions by police, and eventually agreed to stop stocking the garment. The Catholic League of America, back in 1998 (amusing "Victory for Sickos" story) and 1999 (their call to action), also complained bitterly about the t-shirt.
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COMMENT | hehe...
posted by : NaPaLM DeaTH 10/28/2005 8:11:16 PM
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This should give those foreigners who like to bash the US something to chew on. You can bitch and moan all you want, but this proves that we truly are the LAND OF THE FREE, MOTHER FUCKERS.
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COMMENT | That's how it is supposed to be.
posted by : MindWar 10/28/2005 8:15:38 PM
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Show some Respect!
Offending people isn't the same as freedom.
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COMMENT | As much as i hate them
posted by : IbanezAbuser 10/28/2005 8:17:25 PM
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this is fuckin hilarious. One of the most absotluly horrible "extreme" metal bands out there getting in trouble because of a lack of the English Parliment saying you can say anything you want.... this is why people come to america they can say and do just about anything they please....
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COMMENT | Hey look..
posted by : Sam Przyborowski 10/28/2005 8:19:28 PM
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..its someone trying to start another US Vs the rest of the world argument for no reason whatsoever.
And CoF t-shirts should be banned purely on the grounds that they're only for 15 year old boys and fat goth chicks who are trying desperately to get attention.
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COMMENT | This is disgusting
posted by : JeffTilDeath 10/28/2005 8:27:03 PM
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Anyone that thinks that there should be laws that force us to "be nice" should be forcibly sodomized repeatedly. Think about what you are supporting - Government control of your mouth and wardrobe. What next, forcing people to wear green on St. Patty's Day so they can "Show some Respect" as MindWar put it? Another question- Who decides? Who gets to decide what's offensive and what's acceptable? Who gets to tell me what shirt I'm allowed to wear? Are words (our main tool of communication) really all that bad? Are people so afraid of written and spoken words that we need to make laws PROTECTING people from fucking WORDS?!?!
It makes me wanna go pick a fight. America will eventually have laws like this. Hopefully I'll be dead by then.
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COMMENT | AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN,
posted by : METALKINGDOM 10/28/2005 8:28:20 PM
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where at least I know I'm free...
haha!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : gr_1988 10/28/2005 8:36:37 PM
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'this is fuckin hilarious. One of the most absotluly horrible "extreme" metal bands out there getting in trouble because of a lack of the English Parliment saying you can say anything you want.... this is why people come to america they can say and do just about anything they please....'
if people can do as they wish then tht must mean america ispretty fucked because you are implying people culd basically murder someone if they wanted to lol and cradel of filth suck!
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COMMENT | outrageous bullshit. a sick system when religion infiltrates government
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:38:41 PM
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I love the tee shirt. I saw it and not only is the nun totally fuckable with nice tits, but she looks like she's cumming, it's great!!!
Now... since somebody's feelings were hurt over the tee shirt, are they going to protect those who are offended by motherfuckers knocking on the door trying to give you a bible??
What the fuck is this world coming to?
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COMMENT | .
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:42:39 PM
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I would liek ot see them try and make me take off my Impaled Nazarene shirt or any of shirts for that matter I dont give a fuck who it offends they don't have to keep looking at it if it bothers them so much.
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COMMENT | Amen
posted by : Meat_Cigar 10/28/2005 8:43:23 PM
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Cracked -clavicle ^^^^
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COMMENT | And don't think America is any better...it's worse
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:45:11 PM
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Religion is in the pledge of allegience, national anthem, swearing in for a court hearing, marriage ceremonies, the constitution, and just for a glimpse of how looking a little "satanic" can violate your freedom... look at the accusations of the west memphis three, marilyn manson and littleton, and the discrimination you get at just about any job these days. Religion is thuggery and oppression. Religion and freedom are oil and water, they don't mix.. The worst crime is the brainwashing. The dismissal of obvious scientific evidence that the bible is PURE HORSESHIT!!!
THINK FOR YOURSELF.
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COMMENT | NEW "ANTI-RELIGIOUS HATRED" LAWS!!!
posted by : Brain Dead 10/28/2005 8:45:28 PM
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They recently bought these laws in to ban those fuckers down the road from me from telling people to go and bomb shit. NOT to stop middle-class white kids from wearing stupid t-shirts.
MURDER THE GOVERNMENT!!!
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COMMENT | national-socialist black metal bands SUCK!
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:46:19 PM
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No exception.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:50:22 PM
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haha, I've got that shirt
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COMMENT | I dunno.....
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:57:25 PM
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I think people in the extreme metal world sometimes just get too obsessed with offending people, and less on their image.
I mean, if COF doesn't care about this- then they have no right to complain if they get shat on by say, the press or any important authority.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 10/28/2005 8:59:17 PM
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i went to school with a girl who used to have that shirt, i think it was in the 7th or 8th grade she wore it a few times, i can't believe she actually got away with it a handful of times before she was told to change it or be suspended. haha. whatever. if you wear something like that with language or sex or drug references in school i understand, but just simply in public is bullshit. and it's not like we get that over here in the States all the time. how many fucking times since 9/11 have we seen people being stupid little fucks and getting their panties in a bunch over anti-George W. Bush shirts and so forth? fuck that, we're no better. not trying to start shit by making the comparison, i'm just saying fuck that 'we're better, we're #1, we don't do that here, we're the best country' bullshit, because it happens here in the States whether it's something like this or not every now and then, too.
MESHUGGAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Perfect law
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:09:15 PM
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A law banning all religion.....
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COMMENT | hehe
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:13:09 PM
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I THINK THAT KID DESERVED WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HIM JUST FOR BEING A CRADLE OF FILTH FAN
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COMMENT | Man am I glad...
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:13:12 PM
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That I live in Canada. I can wear that Shirt, and Smoke a Joint walking down the street, And no one would give a fuck. I keep on hearing that America is free, and shit, but is it really? I mean, You are forcefed bullshit propaganda from either your Government, or the extreme religions, and too many people buy into it. Fuck MTV. Fuck GWB. Fuck Religion.
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COMMENT | saw 2 spoiler
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:15:29 PM
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AMANDA, THE JUNKIE WHO SURVIVED IN PART ONE, IS TRAPPED AGAIN. SHE IS JIGSAW'S PARTNER AND THE DETECTIVE'S SON IS LOCKED IN A SAFE IN THE SAME ROOM THE WHOLE TIME. THE "LIVE" VIDEO FEED IS REALLY PRE RECORDED. JIGSAW DIE'S, AMANDA TAKES OVER, IT ENDS IN THE RESTROOM WHERE PART ONE ENDED, W/ THE DETECTIVE NOW LOCKED IN THERE W/ ADAM FROM PART ONE. BITCHES!!!
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COMMENT | Perfect law...
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:18:29 PM
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yeah dumbass, let's ban religion in a country that was founded on religion. glad to see you're thinking things through.
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COMMENT | hysterical
posted by : PilF-004-030-086 10/28/2005 9:30:17 PM
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hahah . . . what a stupid moron. Such activity can cause commotion among those who are not familiar with the material
lesson learned: Never trade shirts w/ your girlfriend
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COMMENT | JeffTilDeath
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:37:16 PM
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It's not an issue about whether the govt has a tight grip on our balls, its about having a lack of respect for others. Although you do have freedom of expression, you are not entitled to walk around like a striped assed ape and wear shit people take offense to. Dani Filth is about the least intimidating person I think I've ever seen and the shit he spews from his mouth makes him look like a poser. And cracked clavicle I agree with you, people who go door to door trying to convert the non believers are fucking tools as well.
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COMMENT |
posted by : JohnSandman 10/28/2005 9:43:37 PM
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what a stupid ass shirt. only a fucking idiot would wear a shirt like that
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COMMENT |
posted by : 10/28/2005 9:51:18 PM
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haha i just bought the shirt
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COMMENT | Religion..
posted by : Chralk 10/28/2005 10:00:22 PM
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...saying to ban it/pass laws against religion is the exact same thing as passing laws against shirts, so that's hypocritical.
Most people look at religious nuts and shake their heads or politely decline when they come aknockin. Same with this shirt...most people look at the kid and think he's pushing it, just like I think the guy knockin at my door selling his version of God is pushing it. Going around with a shirt like that is in many ways similar to the guy trying to sell you on his religion...they are both pushing something in your face. Laws are stupid to make concerning this shit because there will always be situations where some gets offended at someone else's behavior. Courts would do better than to decline to hear this shit, and politicians would do better than to pass laws against them. Live and let live...keep other people in mind when you go about your daily business and the less bullshit like this will crop up. So you like CoF...does everyone need to know? Plus you're wasting your money that could be spent on another album.
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COMMENT | Yeah
posted by : OreoMcPoop 10/28/2005 10:25:03 PM
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First off that t-shirt is hilarious just because I can see Dani Filth saying "oh that's hilarious" as he makes the layout for the shirt, that and it reminds me of the "Get behind thee satan" shirt which is perhaps the funniest metal shirt I have ever seen. But, this whole situation is ridiculous, the fact that somebody got so offended by a shirt that they called the police, holy shit what an anal person. If you don't like someone's person appearance, sorry man, you just have to respect it, at least in my opinion. Hell, if I saw someone with a "kill whitey" shirt on I guess I would bitch about it to my friends but it wouldn't bother me that much. You know whatever, wear whatever you want, say whatever you want as long as it doens't impede on others. That should be the basic philosophy, not let's just make a law so these people will stop fucking whining. And I totally agree with everyone above saying that "when the fuck did religion become so pure". I assure you that some people take offense to religion being shoved in their face, I know I don't like it. So why are they right and some kid that's wearing a t-shirt is wrong? He's obviously not a bad person I mean he took the blame for the shirt when his girlfriend was wearing it when the cops came up to him. This makes me want to just go out and buy that shirt just to piss off these people.
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COMMENT | Nice reportage, Bori.
posted by : 10/28/2005 10:43:19 PM
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I think that's a shame, but hey, it's Great Britain, isn't it? No First Amendment rights there!
Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those sorts of shirts. My Dawn of the Dead shirt ("When there's no more room in Hell, the Dead will walk the earth") is about as offensive as I get.
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COMMENT | Haha
posted by : 10/28/2005 10:48:44 PM
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This shirt SUCKS, I would never wear it, BUT I stand by anyone's right to wear it!!
OFFENSE SHIT IS FUNNY. I LOVE ANY ARTWORK THAT OFFENDS PEOPLE. FUCK 'EM.
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COMMENT | I hate CoF, and think the shirt is dumb...
posted by : 10/28/2005 11:01:04 PM
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...but I wouldn't want to live in any country that I'd get arrested for wanting to wear it.
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COMMENT | ChristiansForSlayer
posted by : 10/28/2005 11:13:03 PM
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Dawn of the dead is a good movie. I can't believe someone was arrested for wearing a t-shirt. Pretty stupid
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COMMENT | LMFAO
posted by : slayerchick80 10/28/2005 11:26:08 PM
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wow...
The True Mr. Blonde~best post on here, hysterical.
The Crimson Ghost~awesome...
The next time one of those Jehovah's witnesses come knocking on my door at the butt-crack of dawn, trying to "save" me...
He SHOULD be made to pay me punitive damages for the emotional and intellectual distress he's caused me from having to get up from watching the game when it's 3rd & inches with :08 left to go in the 4th to answer the door only to find the wretched spawn himself standing there.
In a perfect world.
CoF blows hairy goat balls, but this was the funniest story of the day.
\m/
Infernal War!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Any hot topic trash fan of this shitty band needs to be locked away in jail.
posted by : S3EK05 10/29/2005 12:32:48 AM
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This needs to happen more often. Every Mall Goth needs to be shipped to a private island where they're gassed after exiting the plane.
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COMMENT | Wow this sucks
posted by : Dirty Pirate 10/29/2005 12:35:20 AM
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I guess we all learned one thing here in a way. If you have a point of view different from others you'll be prosecuted. It's a shame really. Well I might as well quote Deicide here and tell The U.K. FUCK YOUR GOD!!!
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COMMENT | S3EK05
posted by : 10/29/2005 12:53:35 AM
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COMMENT | Any hot topic trash fan of this shitty band needs to be locked away in jail. posted by : S3EK05 10/29/2005 12:32:48 AM This needs to happen more often. Every Mall Goth needs to be shipped to a private island where they're gassed after exiting the plane.
HAHA, that was pretty funny man
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COMMENT | Anarchy in the U.K.
posted by : SATANIC SLUT WHORE 10/29/2005 1:18:27 AM
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Clip up and get out. I'm calling Anarchy back to the table immediately as of now you are no longer made. In other words many many innocent people are going to.
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COMMENT | American freedom nonsense
posted by : 10/29/2005 1:25:38 AM
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a remember kids getting expelled from school for wearing Korn shirts back in the 90s, so dont rush to make this question of civil liberty one of nationality, that's just jingoistic and boneheaded.. let's not forget that the US still enforces the death penalty, that's the government taking lives... right, very democratic
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COMMENT | hey black violin . com.....
posted by : 10/29/2005 1:40:31 AM
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have you heard every single nsbm band? it seems you're letting your prejudices dictate your opinion which is nothing if not common, but your opinion in this case has about as much relevence as me saying every band who plays mathcore sucks becasue i haven't heard every mathcore band. i dont neccessarily agree with what is being espoused by most nsbm bands, but i can ceratinly appreciate the music, nokturnal mortem for one, are one of my favourite bands....
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COMMENT | Hey i wish i played drums for akercocke
posted by : 10/29/2005 2:18:15 AM
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Not prejudice, but experience. Do you need to get a smell of only one piece of shit to know that all manure stinks? I think so.
When it comes to NSBM bands (lyrics) I give no mercy, I make no compromise, even if the music is fairly good. That's my way. To me - they are the real "sub humans" they cry so much about. I don't know how fascism found its way into music, I know only that its ideals are the epitome of the world’s weakness and the worst attributes of what a human being could be.
Somehow I knew the name Nokturnal Mortem will be mentioned. The biggest excuse for people defending NSBM. Well, lets see... I heard everything by Nokturnal Mortem before and after they became assholes. Except their latest MCD and album, because I banned them from my collection. As far as I'm concerned - they don't even exist anymore, stupid wankers. When their idiocy rules the brain - there's no escape for them.
Nokturnal Mortem weren't too great to begin with. Sure - a solid Ukrainian band only because the standards 'overseas' are pretty low. But honestly, comparing them to any main Black Metal music from Norway or Sweden - they don't even stand a chance. Not really. What, just by adding a fiddle and some folk choir or flutes in the mix doesn't automatically makes a band great. Some of their old symphonic stuff is ok, but they damaged their credibility when they changed their style, at least for me.
I know, to "foreign' ears their music probably sounds mysterious and exotic, but overall - Vocals are weak. Drums are weak. Some ok riffs. Production sucks. Nah..... not a great band.
Most bands that came out of former USSR have a silly habit to "borrow" styles, ideas and music from bands in other countries. And NM is no exception.
P.S. If you don't understand Russian, you have no clue how really stupid and retarded the Nokturnal Mortem lyrics really sound half of the time. Fuck them.
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COMMENT | Also
posted by : 10/29/2005 2:30:53 AM
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I am absolutely against the "I don’t necessarily agree with what is being espoused by most nsbm bands, but I can certainly appreciate the music..." spineless point of view. It's not an excuse. You can't be half-fascist. You're either with them or you're not.
When they will knock on your door with the gun in their hand, I don't think your "I don’t necessarily agree with what is being espoused by most nsbm bands, but I can certainly appreciate the music" is going to matter. You will either conform or fight back. It's a war of opposites between humanity and fascism. The subject of fascism in any form is not just some game. It's the most serious kind of thing in the world. A person's character, principles and morality are all there - in the choice - Who are you with?
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COMMENT | being a fan of music no matter what kind doesn't make one a fascist....
posted by : 10/29/2005 3:24:37 AM
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so you dont believe its possible to be able to seperate the music from the ideology and lyrics do you? music in its pure form is impartial, it belongs to no one but whomever cretaes it.....that the creator of it chooses to put to it an ideology is their business, i as a listener can separate it so i get what i want out of it...im not restricted to agreeing with what is indeed they're alluding to in their lyrics or image becasue i happen to listen to their music. i simply happen to like the nm sound, i thought the guitar tone on nechrist to be one of the most striking and darkest yet in black metal....i dont see how its any different from a religious person being a fan of deicide, and i know there are some who are. they may not agree with what benton is saying, and doubtleessly they dont, but they still might dig the hoffmann's riffs and solos. and as for fascists knocking on my door, im far more worried about the governments anti anything that can possibly be construed as discrimitory (such as a freedom to waer metal shirts and listen to certain forms of black/death/grind)law than iam anyone asking me about whether i agree with the views of nm or not.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : 10/29/2005 6:29:32 AM
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That's stupid. I gotta get me that shirt next time Cradle roll around here.
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COMMENT |
posted by : En_Gris 10/29/2005 8:01:46 AM
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Too bad freedom of speech is so rare these days. I miss it.
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COMMENT | HOLY CRAP
posted by : MaskOfSanity 10/29/2005 10:20:54 AM
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This is NOT about freedom of speech you idiots. It's one thing to wear a metal shirt, but it's another to wear a shirt that targets people. This shirt is MADE to get attention. Negative attention. That's the whole purpose of it. The end.
It's like someone going up to the President/Prime Minister of your country and threatening his life. Of course you'd be punished and no, it is not a matter of freedom of speech.
By the way, Earth a Raging Blaze, Jesus isn't a myth, there is actually scientific evidence that he existed at one point. Idiot.
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COMMENT | shit band and.........
posted by : 10/29/2005 10:26:23 AM
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shit tshirt anyway
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COMMENT | Fucking Idiots
posted by : 10/29/2005 10:50:20 AM
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Some one shoot these fuckers! This band is sooo fucking horrible, i want them all dead. Saw a kid wearing that one day. Fucking idiot fucks.
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COMMENT | Like Angry Johnny said
posted by : 10/29/2005 11:31:54 AM
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this shirt is designed to attract attention. The kid got attention. He didn't deal with it properly. The end.
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COMMENT | nunnery
posted by : kubotah 10/29/2005 11:54:59 AM
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you'll get arrested at most of the malls in america under those "no offensive attire allowed" laws posted at all the new commercial establishments.
that shirt is great
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COMMENT | Mask of Sanity
posted by : 10/29/2005 12:14:38 PM
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Anyone who thinks Jesus existed and thinks they have evidence is the idiot.
Did your friendly neighborhood church tell you such lies?
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COMMENT | Angry Johnny
posted by : 10/29/2005 1:48:48 PM
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You are more than welcome to try and remove my offensive shirts. I would love for some prick to come up and try am pull of my Belphegor shirt or my Acheron shirt. Not going ot happen
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COMMENT | Haha @ MaskofSanity
posted by : Earth a Raging Blaze 10/29/2005 2:08:27 PM
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And btw if someone threatened to kill the president, i wouldn't give a shit. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
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COMMENT | Strange...
posted by : ~CAIN~ 10/29/2005 7:09:56 PM
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I feel oddly compelled to purchase that shirt.
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COMMENT | My country is better than yours!
posted by : 10/29/2005 7:34:40 PM
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Nuf' said
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COMMENT | Scott Weiland's Orange Juice
posted by : 10/29/2005 10:15:21 PM
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Just shut up.
That person in SMNnews is my good friend Rod. He's still very young and has a long way to go... I didn't say it was mandatory to think the way I do. I speak from years of personally experiencing Nationalist ideology and tactics against my family and I. Rod can like whatever he wants, but he is a fool for liking NSBM bands just because of the music. He never experienced the bullshit firsthand, and if he did- - trust me - he would change his mind. There are better Black Metal bands to choose from. No need to go in the garbage to find stuff to eat if your fridge is full.
"Let me ask you, do you like Burzum? If so, have you bought any Burzum albums? If so, you're a fucking hypocrite. Same goes for Mayhem and Darkthrone, both of which have members that (allegedly) believe in neofascist ideologies."
No I haven't spent money on any of the bands mentioned. I have a lot of friends who I copied those band's albums from. Mayhem and Darkthrone are cool. If they would be proven (!) to have the ideology I would ban them without another thought. But it's bullshit. As long as I don't hear the stupid fascist lyrics - it's good enough for me. It goes for Burzum too. I don't like that band as much anyway.
"Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some bands and celebrities we see in the media are closet fascists/racists."
Like I said - I don't give a crap what anyone does in the privacy of their own home, freedom is for everyone, but I don't want to be exposed to the asshole fascist message in the music I listen to. I won't support fascists in anyway I can. Period! It's really stupid listening to the fascist lyrics and banging your head at the same time. It's like having a stake and washing it down with piss for dinner.
"Of course you're going to say, "I agree with your ideology! Don't kill me!" if a national-socialist sticks a gun to your head. Is being "proud" of your anti-fascism views more important than your life?"
Of course I won't submit. If the situation will occur, the outcome of it is still not certain. It could be that the prick will go down first, and if I happen to lose my life - well, that's a good reason to in my opinion. I happen to experience similar situations before, and hey - I'm still here.
Have a good evening.
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COMMENT | Sigh.
posted by : Angry Johnny 10/30/2005 10:20:04 AM
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You spend so much time pointing the finger and spewing out aggression that you obviously don't spend much time reading (or writing) ANYTHING. Having a serious discussion with somebody that is obviously about 14 years old is going to go nowhere fast. (Wow, look at that, we're already there.)
While it is true that there is no Anti-Christ without Christ, your cartoonish, one dimentional "everything is black and white with no shades of gray" mentality is almost impossible to reason with until you come to a place where you've got an open mind.
I'll say this and then that will be it. I don't know you. I am only going to guess that the music that you listen to feels good for certain reasons. It fills gaps and expresses a certain kind of hate and violence that feels awesome. I get it. (I totally still love Slayer, but they don't dictate my religious views, obviously) I just want you to start to look at the words and images that you are being sold and ask yourself this:
"If I'm filling a void in my life, is THIS what I want to fill it with?"
To quote Fight Club: "The things you own end up OWNING YOU". I ask you to keep your mind open and not be sold into some kind of worldly, dead-ended bullshit mentality that only leads to misery and depression. Keep your mind open.
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COMMENT | bullshit law
posted by : MurderCapital666 10/30/2005 1:35:54 PM
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FREE Adam Shepherd NOW
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COMMENT | Holy christ...
posted by : Clammy 10/31/2005 5:23:44 PM
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Can you say police state? The UK is becoming more and more like an old-time eastern bloc communist country every day. Glad I don't live there!
Cheers!
Clammy
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COMMENT | >=(
posted by : 11/12/2005 8:29:15 PM
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i read more and more about how cradle of filth are a sell out and "popular" but how come we never come across any actual fans, only people accusing cradle of being a sell out!!!! Dani is amazing, cradle are amazing and i love them for their amazing music & tallent! not for their offensiveness or anything, i peronaly think that they are the best musicians i have ever heard. I love cradle of filth and nothing people say can ever ever change my mind.
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