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DIMEBAG's Family To Sue Columbus Club Over Deadly Shooting: Video Available
- Dec. 7, 2005
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Kevin Landers of Columbus, Ohio's WBNS-10TV has issued the following report: A lawsuit is now expected to be filed, one year after a shooting spree at a north Columbus bar. December 8th, 2004, Nathan Gale jumped on stage at the Alrosa Villa nightclub on Sinclair Road and opened fire. He killed four people before a police officer killed him. Now the club's owner is the target of a civil lawsuit expected to be filed Thursday. The attorney filing the suit told 10TV he intends to prove that if the nightclub's owner had hired trained security guards, innocent victims would be alive today. A night of heavy metal music turned into a night of terror when Nathan Gale got onto the stage with a loaded gun and began firing. Four people were killed, including Darrell "Dimebag" Abbott of the band DAMAGEPLAN. Abbott's family, along with two other people injured by flying bullets, are suing the bar's owner. Details of the lawsuit, obtained by 10TV, blame a lack of security for the bloodshed. Among the allegations: security at the bar was inept. Security guards identified Gale as a trespasser hours before the concert and failed to intervene. Overall, security was lacking according to the lawsuit, which also noted the bar had no metal detectors. The lawsuit seeks monetary damages in excess of $25,000. The Alrosa's owner was not available for comment Wednesday. In earlier interviews, Rick Cautela admitted his security force wasn't prepared to stop a man bent on killing. "My security guards aren't supposed to stop a bullet. They get paid 10 to 12 dollars and hour. They aren't paid to take a bullet," Cautela told 10TV last June. Watch the WBNS-10TV report at this location [NOTE: Video includes actual footage of the Dec. 8, 2004 shooting at the Alrosa Villa].
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COMMENT | A lawsuit!
posted by : Chralk
12/7/2005 11:49:04 PM
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Who would have thunk?
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COMMENT | BULLSHIT
posted by :
12/7/2005 11:52:51 PM
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dime is rolling in his grave. im from columbus, the first show i seen at the alrosa was cannibal corpse 96. fuck this.
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COMMENT | Hmmmm
posted by : RICKJAMESBIOTCH
12/7/2005 11:53:13 PM
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Dimebag & This Whole Story Is Like Beating a Dead Horse Now!
Profit all You Fuckers Off of death
Cd's Shirts Etc......... Way To Go Break The Piggy Bank !
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COMMENT | No way...
posted by :
12/7/2005 11:54:11 PM
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...it's the fucking CLUB'S fault???
What... didn't the fucking SHOOTER'S estate have enough money for you?
He's dead. He died on the job and unfortunately in his hazardous position, he didn't have a whole bunch of life insurance or Social Security built up, I guess. Let's fuck the venue that supported his music RIGHT UP THE FUCKING ASS!!!! GREEDY MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
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COMMENT | one more thing
posted by :
12/7/2005 11:54:16 PM
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this couldve happened anywhere, anytime. whats next........ local shows of local bands with full cavity inspections and cameras in the bathrooms?????? fuck that.
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COMMENT | NOW HIRING.
posted by : SATANIC SLUT WHORE
12/7/2005 11:55:44 PM
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PANTERA FANS PLEASE APPLY.
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COMMENT | To DIME
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:10:34 AM
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this first drink, and last drink is to you.
The Kitchener and Cambidge crew
R.I.P. DIMEBAG
Love ya
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COMMENT | Maybe I'm missing something here?
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:24:59 AM
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"The lawsuit seeks monetary damages in excess of $25,000."
It seems somebody sold someone pretty cheap.
Sad.
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COMMENT |
posted by : bill
12/8/2005 12:34:47 AM
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there sueing him for $25,000 but the jury will give them a buttload money for punative and emotional damges ....along with the $25,000
thats why so cheap black violin.....
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COMMENT |
posted by : bill
12/8/2005 12:36:08 AM
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thats what im guessing why its sooo cheap....
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:39:49 AM
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Sure they arent paid to take a bullet, but they are paid to keep everyone safe...which they clearly failed to do.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:45:05 AM
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Nathan Bray and Erin's family is in on it also.
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COMMENT | The owner of that club has kept metal alive in this town...
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:45:21 AM
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.... as sad as it was for Dimebag to die... sueing that small rinky dink club is wack. My house is bigger than that club! ...it's amazing it stays in business from year to year.
I hope the ppl of this town who's ever seen a show there, can come together and do a charity show for this club, and keep the doors open for another year.
When are ppl going to realize that life is promised to anyone... you step outside, there's no sure bet you'll return home, and that's jsut the way life is... go to a show, and a fan pulls out a shank and starts stabbing ppl... well then, guess what, it's your time to go.... if it was me, you can bet your ass he's going to hell first, shank or no shank, I'll rip his guts out with my bare hands.... and should I live, that's payment enough.
This world has gotten weak.
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COMMENT | I think
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:47:29 AM
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Dime would NOT approve. Like they're fucking hurting for money or some shit. Fucking lame.
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COMMENT | Papa Lazarou
posted by : bill
12/8/2005 12:59:57 AM
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what about the c.o.c. show??
a guy got stapped and died...I think he died
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COMMENT | I SUPPORT THIS
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:06:41 AM
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As much as I hate Pantera, and know them to be false metal, I support this lawsuit. Why? Because when the club's liability insurance company gets hit with a large verdict, the entire insurance industry will respond by forcing club owners to have adequate security.
This, by the way, is why true freedom loving Americans should be against tort reform. A court of law is the only discipline that corporations know. Trial by jury rules.
THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY, A NEW WAY, A TRIAL BY FIRE.
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COMMENT |
posted by : DaveyDeadite
12/8/2005 1:08:41 AM
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You guys talk like you knew the guy, I dont care how many pantera shows you've been to or anything, you didn't know him so shut the fuck up about that kinda shit.. second of all, greed? this guy got a gun into a god damn club, don't give me that "its not a air port its a rock show" because any show i've ever been to I got patted down before you even get in the show, they'll hassle you for having a chain wallet and stuff like that.
this club should have had security padding people down enough, they didn't seem to notice this guy had a god damn GUN on him and got away. Sounds like neglagance to me. This way indeed a tragedy, and its hard to stop freak shit like this from happening but the simple fact that this guy could bring a gun to a show like it was nothing..
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COMMENT | FUCK COLUMBUS OHIO
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:15:56 AM
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I COULD GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT THAT DUMP CLUB. RAZE THAT FUCKER TO THE GROUND. THAT FUCKING SCOURGE OF A DUMP. THAT CLUB ISNT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING THE BEST ROCK CLUB IN AMERICA...LOOK WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED THERE.
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COMMENT | GOOD CLUBS SHOW concern for patrons and performers
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:18:51 AM
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this club allowed someone to hop a wall and shoot a legend in the face. the family has every right to sue. all the families do.
joshilator...me too man. the fucking shit on the live album is sick as can be. I mean he owned the motherfucker drunk as shit. no problemo.
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COMMENT | ^^^recharge138^^^
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:27:50 AM
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cover was only $8 that night.
rip-dime:(
love you, man
with that said...
DOWN III please.
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COMMENT | blahblahmouth
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:29:36 AM
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stfu
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COMMENT | and...
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:34:28 AM
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u r fucked.
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COMMENT | and one more thing...
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:38:37 AM
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if this article is true, it makes me fucking sick.
but, i'm not too quick to believe everthing i read here.
next thing i'll probably read/hear is that there is a civil suit against phil.
fucking idiots
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COMMENT | been to many shows this venue...
posted by : burningviolence
12/8/2005 1:41:20 AM
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I live off of Ohio State Campus, about 15 minutes from the alrosa villa, been to many shows there myself. I have never been patted down once at a single show there. The Newport Music Hall, another venue in the Columbus area, pats you down upon entrance. It's partially bad security, I will tell you that, but no amount of money will can replace a life. So why bother...
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COMMENT | recharge138 said...
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:46:51 AM
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"And what if John Lennon was shot on stage? Don't see your point as it relates to this, man."
wtf? you justify sueing the club owner?
what's your point?
who was liable for lennon's murder?
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:57:25 AM
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This is fucking bullshit. I was there and it was not the club's fault.
The guy was fucking insane, and security was no less than any other show. Whether people were patted down is irrelevant considering the fact that he didn't enter through the main ticket entrance, he jumped a huge-ass 7 to 8 foot fence. Security didn't do shit, huh? Tell that to the security guards who lost their lives to stop him.
Rita, Dime's widow, even told me personally that she is glad there was no lawsuit.
This must be attorney's trying their hardest to make a buck.
And yeah, they indentified Gale as a trespasser earlier. but he left. and then came back. If he left than he was no longer a problem so how could that have been any different? You don't call the cops on someone who leaves if he didn't do anything wrong (well, yet, in this case)...
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COMMENT | Oh Shit!
posted by : ~CAIN~
12/8/2005 2:18:56 AM
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A year later to the date! Here comes the shit storm.
Rest In Peace Dime. We miss you.
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COMMENT | 1 Fuckin Year.
posted by :
12/8/2005 2:40:18 AM
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Hey EdgeCrusher, Fuckin Right, Man! Good to see your still going to shows. I don't know how they do things in the States, But here in Toronto, We go to a concert, Sometimes we get Searched twice. And sometimes with Metal Detectors. I have Fuckin Spikes on the brim of my hat, and I can't get into a concert with that shit. For a Crazy Motherfucker to storm into a crowd, let alone get on the fuckin stage, is Unreal to me. I mean, I thought Security was meant to Secure things, i.e. The Club, The Band, The patrons, The stage, etc... Even if they are being paid $10, $12/hr. They still have to perform their duties. I feel they let the club, Band, and patrons down that day. But, what happened happened, and No one can change that fact. Lets all listen to our PanterA/DaMagePlan C.d.s and remember what it was like just over a year ago.
May you rest in peace Dime.
Brown and Crown for all!!!
And I dyed My fuckin Beard PINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | bottom line...
posted by : I Got Jungle Rot
12/8/2005 3:14:31 AM
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bottom line: the club should have not let this guy in with a gun, they are negligent, no matter what, he should NOT have been there, it is the clubs duty to make sure of this. This is not just some neighborhood bar, this is a venue that expects hundreds of people and they should have been on top of things. As much as I support the local "mom and pop" businessman who is just trying to get by, this kinda thing is not excusable. I dont believe in lawsuits but in this instance, the club should have been on top of the situation.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 3:45:08 AM
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alrosa is a dump there is so much violence around that venue... last year in jan. there was a shooting in the fuckin parking lot...
they should of tore the club down after all this happened and just turned the spot into a memorial to the victims.
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COMMENT | People are senselessly killed in public every day.
posted by :
12/8/2005 4:13:47 AM
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Oakland CA- small town, averages a murder every day.
I will always miss Dime. The world will always miss Dime.
I try to be more "Dime" when I'm frustrated, he lived unconditionally accepting most arround him, the saddest irony that the one who gave so much life around him was senselessly killed.
I agree with everyone above who says this isn't the way Dime would want it.
I seriously doubt this has any fucking thing to do with money, that's BS.
The family are grieving. I don't blame them.
But IMHO
GUNS SUCK
FUCK GUNS
FUCK THE NRA
FUCK THE 2nd AMM.
FUCK PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO LIVE WITHOUT GUNS,
FUCK NATHAN GALE, FUCK ALL YOU PUNK TEENAGE FUCKS WITH GUNS.
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COMMENT | I do not support this lawsuit but then its not my lawsuit
posted by :
12/8/2005 4:36:27 AM
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I too think this lawsuit is lame especially since security guards DIED trying to save Vinny and now Vinny is suing the club. Hell, if it wasnt for the dead people, Vinny may very well have died. I feel sorry for his loss but taking out another entire set of people finanially is not going to do a thing except wreck metal in that area and have people looking for new jobs.
I have said before I'm tired of people making $ off Dime and now his family is trying to do so in a not so positive way.
Go ahaead and flame me I dont care.
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COMMENT | BOTTLESLAP
posted by :
12/8/2005 5:27:27 AM
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is right. how the fuck was anyone to know that some fuckin nut job would get up and shoot someone? suing the club is just plain stupid. perhaps they should be taking legal action agaist the ppl who make the guns then. or the american goverment for the stupid gun law's then! but they wont and why? because it wasnt directly there fault.
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COMMENT | 10tv
posted by : 9inchnails
12/8/2005 5:40:26 AM
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I live in Columbus, Ohio, and I gotta tell ya... WBNS 10tv can be the dumbest bunch of incompetent reporters on earth. On the 5am broadcast this morning, they just said that today was the 1-year anniversary of the shootings at Alrosa Villa, where 4 people were killed... including Darrell Abbott the "lead singer" of Damageplan.
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COMMENT | THE DIMESLAYER
posted by :
12/8/2005 6:38:08 AM
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Another 12 year old dumbass looking for attention.
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COMMENT | Currently listening to Hollow
posted by :
12/8/2005 6:38:52 AM
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RIP Dime, I'll never forget you. Your time may have passed, but your music will live forever.
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COMMENT | $25 000 for a life
posted by : ANGST -> THE AGITATOR !
12/8/2005 6:40:21 AM
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$25 000, for the life of Dimebag... ?
Allrighty then ?
ANGST -> THE AGITATOR
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COMMENT |
posted by : 9inchnails
12/8/2005 6:40:28 AM
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Kull, please get cancer early and often.
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COMMENT | fucking scum of the earth
posted by : MurderCapital666
12/8/2005 6:54:54 AM
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This is fucking GREED, like money would bring dead people back to life... Pimping money for someones death is the lowest form of life.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 9inchnails
12/8/2005 7:07:34 AM
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Okay, someone really needs to e-mail 10tv or something. Now they're saying that Dimebag was the singer for both Damageplan AND Pantera.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 9inchnails
12/8/2005 7:23:41 AM
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Pave your way? Wow, you sure told me.
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COMMENT | Wow, after one year
posted by : Decomposed Bag of Bat Sperm
12/8/2005 7:25:22 AM
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More than 1/2 of you still don't have the facts right. Instead of wasting your money on your ISP, perhaps you should contact your nearest Sylvan Learning Center.
http://www.educate.com
This lawsuit is fucking lame. Waste of time and money.
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COMMENT | WTF............
posted by :
12/8/2005 7:40:04 AM
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u know what allot of people dont know is that nate gale jumped on stage in june of 04 at bogarts in cinci. oh. and was beaten, and kick down down 22 steps at bogarts nightclub all whild being recorded by damanageplans seceurity, and was laughed at jokes where made by DP crew( cant wait to watch us kicking the shit out of this guy later) and u know what DAMAGEPLAN DIDENT WANNA PRESS CHARGES,U KNOW WHY? CUS THEY DIDENT WANNA COME BACK TO CINCI. OHIO. i work at the villa and was working that night all the secuirty in the world would not of stoped this. have THIS COULD OF HAPPENED ANY WHERE..........OH AND LETS NOT FORGET THE TRUE HEROS ERIN HULK AND NATHEN BRAY...... R.I.P
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COMMENT | THIS FUCKING SUCKS!!!
posted by : psychoman6sic6
12/8/2005 8:38:49 AM
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Wow, way to run off all concerts or bands willing to play in Columbus Ohio now. I usually drive to Columbus to go to shows, I 've been to the Alrosa a million times, now it's probably going to get shut down......This lawsuit is fucking lame.
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COMMENT | I can understand
posted by :
12/8/2005 8:46:08 AM
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some peoples' point about patdowns being irrelevant since the shooter entered through a non-designated entrance and jumping the fence. However, I was under the impression that backstage security was/should be even tighter than the security at the main entrance. I mean, who here has ever tried to get backstage at a show and hasn't encountered a shitstorm of security checkpoints just waiting to throw your ass out if you didn't have a crew/backstage pass? That being said, i think the guy did storm the place and catch everybody, security included, by surprise. The club owner has a point about their security guys not being secret service agents, nor are they paid as such, but no matter how much you are getting paid, there's no excuse for dropping your guard and allowing someone to slip past, because as we've seen, it only takes an instant for something to go wrong. if it's hectic and there's too much going on to keep track of everyone, then you need more people keeping an eye on things. Collector of Women made a point a while back about insurance implications if the suit is successful, but I think it could be even worse than that. Liability coveage for clubs may hike to the point where clubs can no longer afford it and will have to close their doors, if the insurer is even willing to write a policy at all. This happens in the medical field all the time with malpractice suits. Patients sue an incompetant doctor, and all doctors get their malpractice insurance premiums hiked so high that some have to give up their practice and move to another state where it's cheaper. I would hate to see other clubs have to close their doors over this.
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COMMENT | Bullshit
posted by :
12/8/2005 9:06:43 AM
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Hardly any clubs use metal detectors. Many are doing it now, after the fact. I don't think it is making anyone safer. If someone wants to inflict damage, they will find a way. I am so sad for the Abbott family, but they need to stop listening to their lawyer. Suing a small rinky-dink club in Columbus will not bring Dime back. There is no reason for this shit.
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COMMENT | Let's take a moment to establish some facts:
posted by : Decomposed Bag of Bat Sperm
12/8/2005 9:31:57 AM
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1. Nathan "Shitbag" Gale did not enter through the front door.
2. Nathan "Shitbag" Gale did not enter through the backstage.
3. Nathan "Shitbag" Gale was a US Military trained assassin.
4. Nathan "Shitbag" Gale was diagnosed with schizophrenic paranoia.
5. Bouncers are *NOT* the police and are *NOT* to be regarded as such. In fact, despite popular belief, bouncers never should lay a hand on a patron until an act of violence has been initiated. In most instances, bouncers should contact law enforcement before initiating any physical aggression. Granted, this is procedure rarely ever followed.
6. I've seen Pantera 8 times at 7 different venues. Not once was I *EVER* patted down or instructed to go through a metal detector.
7. At the Dimebag tribute show held earlier this year in Massachusetts with Black Label Society, they were patting down patrons at the door but allowing them to enter with knives. Vinnie was there that night. Go figure? Perhaps he should sue the promoters for this WAAF event.
8. In Columbus Ohio, you can *NOT* hire off duty policemen to act as a security in a nightclub. This is a rule established by the Columbus Police Department because of incidents that have occurred in the past.
I could go on but I'm too pissed right now. This is clearly not the clubs fault and how is the money going to fix anything? Fucking BLS tours the country in the name of a Dimebag memorial to collect $$$ for the victims. However, not one fucking cent was given to the families of Nathan Bray and Erin Halk. Those are the kind of people that should be sued. May BLS and crew rot in hell!!!!!
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COMMENT | This is Nathan Gale's fault...pure and simple
posted by : scoop
12/8/2005 9:54:29 AM
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Nathan Gale is to blame. Nathan Gale and Nathan Gale alone is responsible. Four lives were taken. Their families heartbroken...Enough death and destruction already. What, we have to destroy the club too? and some ethically-challenged lawyers put a price tag on Dime of $25,000? That's disgusting. The on-stage video exonerates the club. Nathan Gale sprinted across the stage, grabbed Dime by the head, and executed him. It literally happened in about the time you read my last sentence. Two guys working security died doing their jobs...fulfilling their responsibilities. One of those security guys worked for the band...Maybe they should sue someone in their own organization. Why don't they sue the Gale family? Probably because they have nothing. So the lawyers go after the AlRosa, thinking the AlRosa might have actually something(money) that can be taken...History has shown time and time again that you can't stop a maniac hellbent on killing. Hindsight is 20/20. I was there. I think about it everyday...and I'm sick of thinking about it. I wish I could listen to Pantera and Damageplan without that sick feeling in my stomach. If I was a lawyer I guess I'd sue somebody over that...right? The overly litigious need to toughen up. A new level of confidence and power...if you will...
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COMMENT | hey i musy say some of us here were real friends of dime
posted by :
12/8/2005 9:58:16 AM
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fuck off-i knew dime and vinnie personally i met them a few years ago and partied on the damage plan tour bus numerous times whenever they came near wisconsin,and pat and bob were cool also(Bob Was Always Way Quiet)But Dime Love The Smoke I Fired Up For Him,I Was A Legend To Him,Up In The Sticks Of Wisconsin,and a great friend,he was everything that is good,and he changed my life for the better,making me realize even a millionare like him could come up and hang out with a poor bastard like me in an old rundown farmhouse,so fuck all those who shit talk dime,and truely he was the most beautiful human(The Goodness Ozzed From His Pours_Along With Jagermeister...Long Live Dime's Music And Spirit....
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COMMENT |
posted by : CuriousBitch
12/8/2005 10:15:23 AM
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"Abbott's family, along with two other people injured by flying bullets, are suing the bar's owner."
This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever read. If they think this is a good way to deal with their grief they are wrong. Bringing someone else down will not make things better. Screw you Abbott family and anyone else involved in this law suit. I wonder if they have even thought about the consequences if this law suit flys?
First, the club should not be held responsible for something so freakish and catastrophic, that could NOT have been prevented. There is NO WAY that ANYONE FROM ANY VENUE could have stopped ANYONE hell bent on shooting someone. It is clear that the shooter would have shot his way through even if a guard had been able to catch him sooner. He was NOT granted access to the venue so he entered illegally. He was seen and pursued. Not soon enough caught, but regardless, people were going to die that night and there was nothing anyone could do to stop that wacko!
Well, unless venues are going to be forced to have metal detectors at every door, every security guard forced to carry metal detecting wands, stip searches are forced upon every fan that enters the venue (don't worry, I am sure they will build a special screaning room to seperate the girls from the boys for the sake of privacy), and unless fans are forced to leave ALL bags, including purses etc in their cars.... oh, and also unless all venues are forced to build 15 foot walls with barbed wire (charged with electricity) around their building, and all entrances are guarded with armed guards.
Yep, that should do it! all fans and bands will be safe.
Ticket price: $1000.00 for even the cheapest seats.
Hope the Abbott family will be happy and satisfied with what they are doing should they win. Not to mention the fact that because they are still in the anger stage of their grieving, they will shut down part of metal music's history - the Alrosa Villa. the club has been around for a LONG damn time. The TRUE metal fans with decent heads on their shoulders will miss this club.
Get therapy, not a lawyer, if you cannot deal with the pain of your grieving. Don't make more people suffer just because YOU STILL ARE!
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COMMENT | bat sperm and scoop
posted by :
12/8/2005 10:40:40 AM
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both make good points. I forgot that Gale was military trained and I thought he came in the backstage area. If he was twisted enough, and had the time to plan this all out and misuse his training to carry this attack out, I guess nobody would have been able to see it coming (before it happened, that is. hindsight is always 20/20). He had the element of surprise and the will to kill on his side. No matter who bought him the gun or what club it was, he would have gotten all the tools he needed and went to whatever club the show was held at and carried this out if he had the motivation and means. I guess any security team would have been in a spot. It was an ambush. Even soldiers in a war situation are suseptible to an ambush. People use that method because they're cowards and it's easy. Doesn't impute negligence on anybody else. Animals do it to hunt for food. It has a purpose in nature, but cowards take advntage of it just to be spiteful. There's chinks in every suit of armor.
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COMMENT | RIP DIMEBAG
posted by : RiotAct666
12/8/2005 10:55:48 AM
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RIP BROTHER!
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COMMENT | Ummm.... NO!
posted by : CuriousBitch
12/8/2005 11:03:21 AM
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"we need some gun control in this fucking country!"
No, we need some parents who aren't total fucktards who even though they KNOW their kid has a mental illness they BUY THEIR WACKED OUT KID A GUN ANYWAY!
Stupid fucked up parents breed stupid fucked up kids - and then they put guns in their hands. Seriously, think about it.
There should be a law against fucked up people breeding.
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COMMENT | Well now
posted by :
12/8/2005 11:03:23 AM
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Maybe some of you should become lawyers
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COMMENT |
posted by : CuriousBitch
12/8/2005 11:09:17 AM
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Maybe some of us are.
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COMMENT | recharge138, you are the BIGGEST PUSSY!
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:02:42 PM
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Get the hell outta here FUCKFACE!
It's a damn shame someone like Dimebag is murdered when obvious fucks like this prick should clearly die.
Let me exlain something to you little boy... THIS WORLD ISN'T A HAPPY PLACE!
You sue whoever the fuck you want, it ain't going to make a bit of damn difference. There is no amount of money that is going to make anyone feel better you dumbfuck! Fuckin PUSSY!
...that is the life of a traveling (metal) musician. You go to these gutter holes in towns full murderers, you are going to get some drama eventually. If you are very lucky, the worst you get is being robbed.
For as long as that club has been around, there has been nothing.... NOTHING! ....then one night, an EX-FUCKIN MARINE storms the fence pistol whips guards who are unarmed, and gets to the stage because he's a mental fuck. You don't think those guards know about crazed fans, and what could happen to them? $10 fuckin dollars an hour is not worth dieing for, but they have to make a living right? Everyone makes their choices, they pick their paths. You accept it, and move on. EVERYONE IS DEAD YOU STUPID SHIT! ..sueing is not going to solve a damn thing. A tooth for a tooth, yes... had he killed my loved ones, I'd hunt his ass down.
I am a firm believer that vengence will make you feel better.... sueing? GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE PUSSY!
R.I.P Dimebag
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COMMENT | no way
posted by : CarcPazu
12/8/2005 12:17:48 PM
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Personnaly I don't think the club should be held responsible for this. Everyday everywhere there's a metal concert and nothing happen. This is an isolated case. Crying out loud for security is stupid in that case. That's hypocritical. There's no limit to total security. Next thing you know they'll make you pee in a tube to test your urine for drugs, cuz people on drugs are known to kill people (yeah right haha..) (check the Malaysia news...). I'm not against metal detectors and security cameras, but there lies the limits. Still there's nothing that could prevent a wacko on an agenda to jump up a fence carrying his xmas present . If clubs had to hire a swat team to protect the talents, this leads to other kind of control abuse. Fuck that shit.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:18:31 PM
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...I'll do something unpopular...but in Nathan Gale's mother's defense, what most do not know is that she bought him the gun for Christmas BEFORE he was diagnosed as being psycho. But she failed to take it from him afterwards.
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COMMENT | It's Insurance not the Club
posted by :
12/8/2005 12:48:19 PM
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Being one who just sued a club and won after 3 years, of a personal injury to my girfriend, who went through over 8 surgeries broke both wrist's and damaged her back ..... & the club's owner pushed her! Most clubs that have a general liablity policy of $300k per incident. So don't Boo Hoo for the Club owner. This is money that will help the surviving family of the victims. The club owner is still alive and making money. So other than his premiums goin up after over 20 years in business he's not hurting. As said previous post the $25k is a 'starting point'. It's not the lawsuits that ruin this country. It's ignorance. Everybody lost on this date including John Lennon how iroinic!?!
Get Real L8r Blazze
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 1:25:09 PM
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25.000 dollards is this all the guy was worth to them .....all trying to do is shut rick down fuck them, they got all this money for the dimebag fund but not once ant any of the shows did they say anything about erin or nathen.........bullshit. what was there lif worth ?????? erin and nathen died trying to save the life of another person or people whats that worth to ya....they dont have millions of dollars and no ones tring to get money for them.........some people just care to much about money...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
12/8/2005 3:06:42 PM
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I am not going to comment on all the bullshit. I will say they we are having a memorial tonight at the ARV. If you live in Columbus and are interested in this, come by the ARV after 7pm and join us all in remembering ALL the victims.
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