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EXODUS Guitarist: 'Emo' Bands Have Taken All The Testosterone Out Of Heavy Metal - June 29, 2006
Ellen Gager of Midwest Excess recently conducted an interview with EXODUS guitarist Gary Holt. A few excerpts from the chat follow:

Midwest Excess: You guys have assembled quite a lineup of accomplished musicians over the years that have come and gone, and come and gone. How is the band dynamic now?

Gary: "Without taking anything away from the guys that I did play with in this band for 20-plus years, this lineup feels like we've all been together for 20 years. We actually spend more off stage time together than we did towards the end with the other guys, we have a really great time and they're just a joy to play with. And they're all committed. Everybody, like Tom [Hunting], our original drummer, he had mental issues and he suffered from severe anxiety attacks and he just couldn't do this anymore And Rick [Hunolt] had his own personal problems, and it was always like pulling teeth getting him to get to rehearsal. So, you know, everything's easier now."

Midwest Excess: That brings me to the next question, how do you feel about today's current music scene?

Gary: "I think it's really good. I mean, it's better in the United States than it used to be, but it still struggles, you know? Europe and Japan and other points around the globe still remain our bread and butter. It's getting better. The whole nu-metal thing died and I was so glad about that, but now we have all these emo kids who weigh like 105 pounds and wear girls' pants that won't even stay on there, 'cuz they have no ass to hold their pants up, they left their ass in the other pants. And they got their hair covering half their face, and the crooked hat, and I'm starting to miss nu-metal, to tell ya the truth. I mean, they have taken all the testosterone out of heavy metal, these guys. Stop whining and crying... Emo. The only emotion that's supposed to be in this music is anger and rage, not sissy complaints. I just don't get it. I look at those kinds and I'm like, 'Lift some weights, eat a hamburger, go do something.'"

Midwest Excess: What about all of your record label changes? Are you guys satisfied with your current record label?

Gary: "Absolutely. We did the independent thing and that was always great, and we were like big fish in a small pond. Then we went to the major label and where it's just all about dollars and cents, and that sucked. And now we're back on a metal label that understands the music, and not just looking at your past record sales."

Midwest Excess: What do you guys have in the works, do you have any new songs recorded? Are you planning any huge new tours?

Gary: "We've got some...we're going to Europe for a couple weeks in June, and we're working on some stuff. We might be going to Taiwan in August, and then we're going some more U.S. stuff I can't really mention right now, because I'm sworn to secrecy — that's in September/October. And then we'll go to Europe again and hopefully start recording around next February."

Read the entire interview at MidwestExcess.com.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Emperor Mordred
6/29/2006 1:24:09 PM

Since when has emo something to do with metal?:-)

COMMENT |
posted by : bill
6/29/2006 1:24:21 PM

Gary Holt speaks the truth....preach it brother...

COMMENT | WORD!
posted by : sheepgrinder
6/29/2006 1:26:16 PM

Well said. however, i dont believe i will ever miss nu metal.

TOXIC WALTZ!!!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : SAVAGE ANIMAL
6/29/2006 1:26:16 PM

Gary Holt is 100% correct.



EXODUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SAVAGE ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | yes
posted by : WaysToTheGrave
6/29/2006 1:26:22 PM

ive been saying that exact thing for quite a while... well obviously im not the only 1, but its nice to hear gary say it.

COMMENT | Very true
posted by : METALLICAC/DC
6/29/2006 1:27:13 PM

Gary Holt is the man.

Exodus > Slayer.

Still love Slayer, but Exodus' new stuff is miles ahead of theirs.

COMMENT | New Exodus
posted by : AbortionSoup
6/29/2006 1:31:17 PM

Ya know, I never did like Zetro, but I have heard the new guy shreds...I need to check it out.

COMMENT |
posted by : alexander graves
6/29/2006 1:31:52 PM

FUCK EMO LITTLE BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : The Godfather
6/29/2006 1:33:38 PM

"and then we're going some more U.S. stuff I can't really mention right now, because I'm sworn to secrecy — that's in September/October." Their gonna be on Gigantour 2, without a doubt.

COMMENT | It's a cycle...no worries...
posted by : AbortionSoup
6/29/2006 1:43:51 PM

In the late 80's Glam/Hair Rock took a little steam out of metal, but that shit eventually died out.

Same thing will happen to the new garbage that is diluting metal.

COMMENT |
posted by : prezuiwf
6/29/2006 1:44:54 PM

Damn straight, this guy knows what he's talking about.

COMMENT | emo & nu-metal
posted by : buttlips
6/29/2006 1:45:06 PM

for the most part, probably 90% of all emo & nu-metal bands suck ass. there are a few rare exceptions though, but I pretty much agree with Gary. metal definitely needs to be tougher and more agressive. too much melody and wussy singing is gay. not that being melodic is a bad thing. but the main focus of metal should be hard-hitting and crushing. Exodus is one of the very few old-school bands that are still around today that really stay true to the qualities that are the very essence of metal - violent, intense, and evil

COMMENT |
posted by : madeinquebec
6/29/2006 1:55:55 PM

FUCK THE LABEL KNOWN AS EMO

If you strip out all the emotions (litteral sense of the term emotion) from music you end up with a cold electronica or pure industrial with absolutely no feel or vibe or anything. But Industrial bands still play with a sense of emotions or else there would be no interest.

Music needs emotions to be crafted and played and to relate to the listener. Joy, anger, love, hate, happy, down, furious, slow, music is made of emotions.

"he whole nu-metal thing died and I was so glad about that, but now we have all these emo kids who weigh like 105 pounds and wear girls' pants that won't even stay on there, 'cuz they have no ass to hold their pants up, they left their ass in the other pants. And they got their hair covering half their face, and the crooked hat, and I'm starting to miss nu-metal, to tell ya the truth."

Hey dude, have you never been a kid yourself? There was people exactly like you 20 or 30 years ago who were looking at your mullet and Maiden T-Shirts and they were thinking exactly like you now about the younger you.

In that respect, you have to give the kids a break. You had your teenage yeaRS, so now it's their time. Deal with it. "Emo" will change to something else soon enough. Don't worry about it.

COMMENT |
posted by : thebellyofthebeast
6/29/2006 1:59:27 PM

What does emo have to do with metal anyway? Blame kids who like emo on the bands low concert attendence and record sales. Do something new and original Exodus and stop whinning.

COMMENT |
posted by : SAVAGE ANIMAL
6/29/2006 2:03:07 PM

"All of these girly little PETA-supporting emo bitches can hang themselves as far as I'm concerned."

Which reminds me - FUCK PETA. Thanks to them, we've got all these little teenaged girls supporting eco-terrorists.

COMMENT |
posted by : charliebenante<3jonschaffer
6/29/2006 2:04:39 PM

Bleh, I understand and agree with the guy's sentiments that emo really, REALLY sucks, but he puts up a very poor argument as to exactly 'how' emo has sucked the life out of metal. If we look at it from a strictly musical perspective, we could argue that glam rock took the mojo out of metal, and then alternative, and then nu-metal, and then so on and so forth. Sheesh, just play your music and don't even bother worrying about whatever mainstream music out there is sucking the minds out of the public.

That being said, I like Exodus' music but I don't think he should be complaining about how so-and-so is responsible for why the genre of music he's playing isn't uniformly accepted. I agree that mainstream music essentially appeals to the dumb masses and that emo sucks cock, but the sad fact is, this argument has been put forth WAY too many times in the past to the point of overusage for me not to roll my eyes when I hear it being restated over and over again.

In short, don't turn into Charlie Benante. Just play your music and kick ass.

COMMENT | madeinquebec
posted by : johnnyMT
6/29/2006 2:05:31 PM

i agree completely.

COMMENT | hell yeah gary!
posted by : ThingThatShouldNotBe
6/29/2006 2:17:21 PM

I have so much respect for Gary. He's been doing this for so long and he's keeping it going stronger than ever! Ahh, I hope Exodus does another US tour. That would be awesome! I can't get enough of them!

COMMENT | I'VE BEEN CUSSING EMO ALL WEEK , SINCE AXL GOT THROWN IN JAIL
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 2:20:53 PM

GO TO ALL AXL THREADS FROM THIS PAST WEEK...

I HAVE BEEN GIVING THESE EMO FUKKS HELL.

LEAST SOMEONE OUT THERE AGREES WITH ME... THANKS EXODUS

COMMENT | I have been saying this same shit on blabber for 5 years...CHECK THE ARCHIVES!
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 2:26:13 PM

The whole nu-metal thing died and I was so glad about that, but now we have all these emo kids who weigh like 105 pounds and wear girls' pants that won't even stay on there, 'cuz they have no ass to hold their pants up, they left their ass in the other pants. And they got their hair covering half their face, and the crooked hat, and I'm starting to miss nu-metal, to tell ya the truth. I mean, they have taken all the testosterone out of heavy metal, these guys. Stop whining and crying... Emo. The only emotion that's supposed to be in this music is anger and rage, not sissy complaints. I just don't get it. I look at those kinds and I'm like, 'Lift some weights, eat a hamburger, go do something.'"

FOR ONCE ONE MUTHER FUKKIN BAND JUST TELLS IT STRAIGHT!!!

GOD-DAMN THANK YOU!!!!

COMMENT | AND YOU PEOPLE BASH AXL
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 2:29:16 PM

AXL IS OUT SHOWING THESE YOUNG EMO FUKKS THE LAW,
PULLING THE JIM MORRISON/THE WAY HARD ROCK N' METAL WAS MEANT TA BE
AND
YOU PEOPLE BASH HIM.

?!?! I TELL YA - MUSIC FANS MAKE NO SENSE !?!?

COMMENT | LAST POST ...SORRY TO POST HOG IT
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 2:31:27 PM

I do not miss that nu-metal shit/rap metal.

Fukk I would just about take emo over that cRAP.

FUCK IT ALL AND BUY CHI.-DEM.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : Al Bundy
6/29/2006 2:41:42 PM

fuck axl rose fuck emo fuck nu metal fuck rap fuck t boner fuck glam and HAIL METAL!!!!!!!!!!! EXODUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EXODUS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gnr


2006 the year in metal NOT the year of hard rock.
DARK-FUCKING-THRONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | Maidenquebec has a good point.
posted by : Danowar
6/29/2006 2:44:52 PM

Nice post man!

COMMENT | Is nu-metal dead?
posted by : enyggma
6/29/2006 2:48:53 PM

If so then why are Korn, Disturbed and SOAD records still going gold and platinum?

COMMENT | DARK-FUCKING-THRONE
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 2:49:09 PM

WHO??

LEAST YOU DON'T SAY "GUNS N' ROSES WHO"

BUT I SAY "DARK-FUCKING-THRONE WHO?"

COMMENT | SOAD IS THE WORST OUT OF ALL THESE BANDS
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 2:50:59 PM

I WOULD SUCK AN EMO DUDES DICK BEFOR I'D LISEN TO ONE NOTE BY THESE FUKKERS!!!!

I WOULD ROCK OUT TO BOY GEORGE OVER SOAD .

HAIL ALTER BRIDGE!

COMMENT |
posted by : HarryBulsacSuxMaidenRules
6/29/2006 3:08:50 PM

"If so then why are Korn, Disturbed and SOAD records still going gold and platinum?"

Well, there are always a couple of bands left over who do fairly well after a trend dies... but, unlike 1999, you no longer see dozens and dozens of these kids with baggy pants and Adidas playing 7 string guitars through Dual Rectifiers and "droppin' dope rhymes".... it came and went.

COMMENT | Gary Holt is the Fucking MAN!
posted by : \m/...Baron Von Wasteland...\m/
6/29/2006 3:16:59 PM

Good Job keeping Exodus together.

COMMENT | I'll second that.
posted by : KentHiltz
6/29/2006 3:49:04 PM

Emo fucking sucks!

COMMENT | Ok someone help me out
posted by : GuitarGod619
6/29/2006 3:58:15 PM

WTF is an Emo band? Is it short for emotion? or does it mean something else. If someone could throw out a few examples that would help.

thanks

COMMENT | YOU BLABBIES LISTEN UP!!!
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 4:15:01 PM

The time of AXL's wrath is mentioned in both the old A.F.D. and the new CHI.-DEM.

It is a historic event in which AXL starts to deal directly with the BLABBIES and the EMO responsible for the destruction of real hard rock music.

Axl will lasts for a period of time, but it is referred to as "CHI.-DEM." A.K.A. the day of His wrath.

<*M.H.R.*>
THIS IS THE DAY WE BEGIN THE W.A.R. ON TAKING WHAT IS OURS.
CHI.-DEM. IS NEAR.
AXL ROSE IS WHAT YOU FEAR MOST.

COMMENT | Sounds like
posted by : skymetal
6/29/2006 4:20:38 PM

Exodus on Gigantour 2

COMMENT | T-boner:
posted by : BlackLabelAxe
6/29/2006 4:25:22 PM

Just shut the fuck up already. I wish they could switch Axl's place in jail with you, so that Axl wouldn't get more press, and you wouldn't be around to spam Exodus threads with rants about Axl's band of clowns.

_____________________________________________________

September/October, sworn to secrecy:

Is anybody else thinking GIGANTOUR?

Mario from Hard Attack wouldn't say anything besides that Megadeth will be "touring with bands they've toured with in the past".

COMMENT | DAMN!
posted by : BlackLabelAxe
6/29/2006 4:26:19 PM

skymetal beat me to it!

I think so, brother.

MEGADETH
OPETH
EXODUS

Holy shit, that's on the same level as the Unholy Alliance!

COMMENT |
posted by : GuitarGod619
6/29/2006 4:29:19 PM

Hey I'm listening to Hardattack as well. There are a lot of bands Megadeth has toured with,


Still what is emo?

So far all I've got is that it's gay. IF I haven't heard of it Im sure it is gay as much as the musicians that play it.

Is Emo like 3 doors down, creed, yellow card, him?

COMMENT | guitargod
posted by : peacesells
6/29/2006 4:39:14 PM

emo are pop/rock bands that only sing about depressive stuff and all sentimental i.e: good charlotte simple plan fallout boys....

COMMENT | FUCK YEAH!
posted by : HailSatan!
6/29/2006 4:40:47 PM

EXODUS ON GIGANTOUR 2!

Already saw these guys twice on the last tour, gonna be a fucking blast to see them again.

COMMENT | finished
posted by : garddog
6/29/2006 4:42:12 PM

they suck also used to be good

COMMENT |
posted by : Bodom After Midnight
6/29/2006 4:43:53 PM

The type of emo kids he is talking about are MySpace emo kids, not the original kind.

Scenesters, really. Image based and shallow. Pretentious without merit.

Emo originally meant "emotional hardcore" because post hardcore bands were starting to talk about emotions (Whining mostly, not strictly) instead of politics and social issues, now it is just whining.

COMMENT | Fuck yea
posted by : Hanson
6/29/2006 4:56:07 PM

You tell em Gary

FUCK EMO
FUCK SCENESTERS
FUCK NU METAL
FUCK TRENDS

IMMORTAL!!!!

COMMENT | AND HERE IS EMO..PLEEZE BORI DON'T BAND ME!!!!
posted by : T-Boner.com
6/29/2006 5:37:02 PM

(((EMO)))

Rules for Emo



1.) 99% of your songs MUST be about a failed relationship.
2.) Your band must mainly consist of skinny white guys, with at least one African-American or Asian member.
3.) Your band must always wear tight black T-shirts from some other unknown Emo band OR vintage ringer T-shirts from the 70's or 80's.
4.) You must open for Saves the Day at least once.
5.) Most, if not all, or your band members must have a jet black mop-top.
6.) A hot female member is required, bonus points of she's dating a member of the band.
7.) The lead singer does not necessarily need to play an instrument, an annoying, loud, whiny voice will do.
8.) You must show up at other Emo band's concerts and stand in the crowd and cry.
9.) You totally deny being labeled as "Emo" yet refuse to label yourselves or your music, or be put in any genre.
10.) Your screen names are something along the lines of XtearsXofmyXheartX
11.) The only foods in your diet are Ramen Noodle Soup and Dasani water.
12.) EVERYONE in the crowd knows ALL of the words to ALL of your songs and when you are in concert, the crowd sings louder than you are.
13.) You cry in concert and aren't ashamed about it.
14.) Every band member must have a black or red 'X' written or tattooed on their hands at ALL times.
15.) You must make it a point that you know what sXe means and that you are proud to be sXe.
16.) Get most of the crowd crying at your shows.

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE NOW AN EMO BAND!

COMMENT | Um...thanks T-Boner...?
posted by : Dekompoze
6/29/2006 5:38:56 PM

That was....really.... funny.

Anyway, Gary fucking rules. That's all I got.

COMMENT | that list
posted by : hippieshateslayer
6/29/2006 5:41:23 PM

is the dumbest damn thing I ever read. Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life.

But yeah, FUCK EMO

COMMENT |
posted by : Emperor Pooarms
6/29/2006 5:52:41 PM

Gary's the fucking man.

COMMENT | I never thought I'd say this...
posted by : BlackLabelAxe
6/29/2006 5:52:52 PM

+2 for T-Boner.com

That shit was really funny.

COMMENT | "That List"
posted by : DARKWEASEL
6/29/2006 6:25:49 PM

Good points although I do disagree with the Robb Flynn one. The Burning Red and Supercharger were utter rubbish, and The More Things Change was a bit ropey, but Through the Ashes... and Burn My Eyes are quite, quite lovely.
Vio-lence were excellent though. Apart from Pleasure to Kill, Killing Technology & Bonded by Blood, Eternal Nightmare was pretty much the only thing that could remove Reign in Blood from my stereo.

COMMENT |
posted by : Lykathe
6/29/2006 6:39:03 PM

24. You say some rap is good.

That's the truth right there. I've seen these mallcore kids write this down tons of times.

COMMENT |
posted by : Firefly
6/29/2006 6:54:25 PM

Wow, that's some fucking list T-bone. I hate to say it but, I think 99.9% of it is on the money. You and I are maybe around the same age, I'm in my early 30's. I know how you feel towards the "new" metal generation. Though I do agree it's a fucking mess and everything that was underground and sacred to us is now either forgotten, ridiculed for its originality or blown way out proportion. The only thing I could say is if you take "our" music seriously whether it's hard rock or metal don't treat it as a novelty cause people like myself have made this music our lives. First and foremost know your roots and most importantly be yourself cause that's a lot cooler. Don't judge music you never heard or the way a band looks. Thank god when I got into music at 10 years old there was no MTV. My MTV was staring at the album cover and drawing my own interpretation on the songs. I didn't get MTV till the mid 80's cause I was still living at home and had no say. The bottom line is it's all about money. The same exact thing that was taboo when I was kid is totally the trend now. For me it's disheartening a bit but, it is what it is. A true fan will read, learn and distinguish the good from the bad. T-bone you and I are the last of the vinyl generation....plain and simple. And this is no knock to anyone on this site cause some of you know your shit...so don't get all emo on me...lol

Hey T-bone, me and my friends always have this debate on who started Death Metal Possessed or Death I have a feeling you might say some other band.

COMMENT | BlackLabelAxl
posted by : VengeanceWolf
6/29/2006 9:19:04 PM

AFI ain't emo. they have more in common with bands like Apoptygma Berzerk now than they ever did with emo bands. Some metalcore/emocore bands have appropriated AFI's look, that doesn't make AFI the same as them . AFI aren't fashioncore, they are fashionable guys but all the members don't dress the same.

And you think they are "pioneers" in emo because of their myspace page or how they look? Sorry dude but you are dumb as fuck. When AFI was still hardcore they had no connection to any of the emo scene, they never played with any emocore bands. They were a part of the Southern California hardcore scene, no emo was around. Emo was more of an East Coast thing.

Emo used to be underground and had ties to the hardcore scene. Now the word and elements of the sound has been appropriated by mainstream rock.

COMMENT |
posted by : jacqvin
6/29/2006 9:47:18 PM

42. You never experienced the torture of "Headbangers' Ball" - sitting through 2 hours and 50 minutes of White Lion, Extreme, Enuff Z Nuff and Poison to see a Kreator video.

oooh memories.

Anyway i forgave Flynn his mistakes the first time i heard "imperium" . Anybody that writes a song like imperium or davidian cant do much wrong in my book.

P.S. I have been worshipping maiden since '88 and Brave New World is one of my favorite albums by them.

COMMENT |
posted by : FlagofHate
6/29/2006 10:23:01 PM

gary holt is right
death to emo
EXODUS !!!!

COMMENT | GARY HOLT IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by : RiotAct666
6/29/2006 10:23:53 PM

I agree with gary 100%

\m/EXODUS\m/ kicks ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | VengenceWolf, Jenk:
posted by : BlackLabelAxe
6/29/2006 11:31:39 PM

Jenk:

I have Slayer, Machine Head, AND Rage CD's in my collection. I happen to like all of it.

VengenceWolf:

I have always like AFI. I even like "Sing the Sorrow", and found it to be an awesome album from start to finish.

I saw their new CD in the store, and I almost bought it purely on the strength of their old material. Damn, I'm glad I didn't. This new big-budget thing has gotten to their heads and now they're more into looking k3wl on MTV than writing badass music. The new songs suck ass, and just the thought of those dudes wearing make-up and the one dude's haircut make me want to puke.

Fuck the new AFI. I still have my old AFI CD's, and I enjoy them on occasion.

COMMENT | Fuck emo!!
posted by : Wolfman31
7/1/2006 6:52:57 AM

EXODUS! METALLICA! MEGADETH! 3 best bands in the world!!! enough said

COMMENT | Fuck emo, but don't eat hamburger
posted by : Mike Chicago
7/1/2006 12:24:22 PM

Carcass!



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