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GUNS N' ROSES: There Is 'No Official Release Date' For 'Chinese Democracy' - Feb. 22, 2007
Longtime GUNS N' ROSES associate Del James has released the following update on the status of the band's eternally delayed new album, "Chinese Democracy":

"The good news is that all of the recording for the album has been completed. Drummer Frank Ferrer and guitarist Ron 'Bumblefoot' Thal integrated themselves into the recordings seamlessly and will have their presence felt.

"There is no official release date, as the band is currently mixing, but after some delays and scheduling difficulties, things appear to be moving along."

GUNS N' ROSES frontman Axl Rose announced in December on GUNS N' ROSES' official web site a "tentative" March 6 release date for "Chinese Democracy". In the posting, Rose also revealed he had split with longtime manager Merck Mercuriadis due to disagreements over the set up for the album release.

"Chinese Democracy" is the first GUNS N' ROSES album since the 1993 covers collection "The Spaghetti Incident". In the ensuing decade, the group has lost every original member besides Rose and burned through a reported $13 million in recording expenses.

GUNS N' ROSES' "Greatest Hits" collection, which was originally issued in March of 2004, was certified triple-platinum on April 11, 2006 by the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) for shipments in excess of three million copies. The CD sold 12,000 copies in the United States last week alone (week ending Feb. 18), bringing the total number of copies sold since its release to 3.47 million, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

GUNS N' ROSES is gearing up to begin a world tour in April. The band has already announced two dates in South Africa — its first ever — and plans are reportedly in the works to bring the group to Japan, Thailand, South Africa, South America, Mexico, Australia, and New Zealand.

GUNS N' ROSES will headline South Africa's My Coke Festival in Johannesburg on April 27 and Cape Town on May 1.

The band did complete its first successful North American road trip in over a decade last year, along with a European trek.
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COMMENT | No release date...
posted by : axl & the robots
2/22/2007 8:21:42 AM

A bug in the robots ?

COMMENT |
posted by : acdcfans
2/22/2007 8:22:10 AM

Yeah Yeah! im sure they are.

COMMENT | YAWN
posted by : ziambat
2/22/2007 8:22:10 AM

YAWN

COMMENT | ...
posted by : mcr9311
2/22/2007 8:22:24 AM

whatever.

COMMENT | I Bet
posted by : jnk6980
2/22/2007 8:24:22 AM

after Axl hears the final mix hes going to hate it, kick everyone out and start all over from scratch. I mean it doesn't matter how good the album might be in todays society of downloading the album will in no way be able to make up for the financial loses. But either way heres to hoping that it's at least a decent album.

COMMENT | Haha.
posted by : KentHiltz
2/22/2007 8:26:58 AM

That's all.

COMMENT | Actually
posted by : jnk6980
2/22/2007 8:28:42 AM

FUCK YOU BITCHES WITH THIS FIRST POST BULLSHIT, AND FUCK THIS ALBUM. Go pick up the new NIN instead (Year Zero- April 17), why? Because this album will actually be come out and will destroy your MOTHER FUCKING EAR DRUMS. NOW PREPARE TO DIE, Bitches!

NIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | NIN sucks
posted by : metalismylife
2/22/2007 8:42:52 AM

So does Rose. It is not G'n"R damnit. You would think that everyone already has all of the songs that came out on the best of again, but still, it makes platinum??

What is wrong with you people??
Support bands that work properly. Not bands that take the fans "stupidity" for granted.

WAKE UP!

COMMENT | jnk6980
posted by : tituscrow
2/22/2007 8:55:39 AM

my my, what an angry little girl you are.

NIN have nosedived since Pretty Hate Machine, and GNR have done the same since Appetite......more in common with each other than you care to admit.

However, it is the new CLUTCH album that will do the business.

COMMENT | I would say
posted by : dt2
2/22/2007 9:18:01 AM

some delays and scheduling difficulties....really, 10 years and you can't get your act together

COMMENT | tituscrow
posted by : evilcl0ne
2/22/2007 9:18:21 AM

Wooooooahh! Now hold the hell up there....

Now your comment on GnR sucking after Appettite I can take but
"NIN have nosedived since Pretty Hate Machine"
Bollox!!!

Personally as much as I love Hate Machine there are weak tracks whereas Broken was amazing! for a 6 track e.p to keep its place in my memory so many years later I have to bow to Reznor. Spiral was a great concept album so not every track works individaually but as a whole I cant fault it, I admit since then the albums have proved to have some weaker tracks but the gems still shine out and the couple of leaked tunes so far have been a step in the right direction for me.

Im much more excited about the NIN, Clutch, Chimaria output this yr than Axl trying to redeem himself

COMMENT |
posted by : axl & the robots
2/22/2007 9:19:35 AM

Expect some Japanese dates very soon...

What a joke !

COMMENT | dammit
posted by : evilcl0ne
2/22/2007 9:19:44 AM

meant Appetite obv

COMMENT | What a joke!
posted by : markisss
2/22/2007 9:20:35 AM

.

COMMENT | wow
posted by : Steve Guttenberg
2/22/2007 9:25:34 AM

only 13 million dollars

not bad

I can't wait till this album NEVER comes out.

COMMENT | Chinese Democracy will not be released until AXL needs the $..
posted by : j_landen
2/22/2007 9:25:39 AM

and if they continue touring, he does not need the $ and it does not get released this year ... so sad T-Bone, the nut case cannot release one single album on his own and Velvet Revolver is on number two.

COMMENT | Way to go Axl
posted by : Wayne76
2/22/2007 9:30:41 AM

I was so excited about this record, oh, 6 months ago, but Axl is just fucking with us now. I don't care anymore. Axl and Eddie Van Halen should form a supergroup and not record an album and cancel a tour. It'll be huge.

Here here to NIN. The new tracks are good so far and the viral campaign is fantastic.

The Clutch record, however, is a motherfucker. Trust me. Great goddamn album.

COMMENT |
posted by : axl & the robots
2/22/2007 9:31:43 AM

Axl is a bit dishonest. He says that he couldn't work with Slash, Izzy or Duff again, nevertheless he continues using the name of the band that was made famous by those guys' songs...

Greedy attitude.

COMMENT |
posted by : spacelord
2/22/2007 9:39:08 AM

Can't wait to download this album when it's released just to NOT support the stupid stupid stupid record company that pours money into this project.

How can a company, that exist just to make a profit, invest this kind of money into ONE album.. it's insane.

COMMENT |
posted by : madeinquebec
2/22/2007 9:39:31 AM

THEY RAN OUT of budget lol

COMMENT | Birds Of A Feather
posted by : Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski
2/22/2007 9:42:15 AM


Bands get the kind of fans they deserve and vice versa.....

COMMENT | Really.....
posted by : TinGod
2/22/2007 10:12:50 AM

really.....REALLY? Is anyone surprised by this? Does anyone care at this point? Give it up, Chinese Democracy is a pipe-dream in more ways than two.

COMMENT | GOD DAMN THIS GOT THE POSTS , AND IM LATE
posted by : T-Boner.com
2/22/2007 10:13:12 AM

WHO CARES WHEN NEW MARILYN MANSON IS COMING VERY SOON.

"EAT ME, DRINK ME" AXL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT | F Del james...
posted by : red shark
2/22/2007 10:17:33 AM

the Axl Rose nuthugger!
Judas Priest's supposed double album will be out before this load of shit called Chinese Democracy will. Plus JP will be well worth the wait.

COMMENT | tituscrow
posted by : genomyte
2/22/2007 10:22:45 AM

New Clutch is gonna rule !!!
I am currently listening to Robot hive/ Exodus to get geared up for it.

"They say this year rock is coming back, Jack...

There's plenty here for everyone so come get you some!"

COMMENT | A Big HaHaHaHa
posted by : MoltenLavaStudios
2/22/2007 10:23:43 AM

to the losers who are still dumb enough to believe.

COMMENT | ALSO 2007 WILL OFFER ME NEW:
posted by : T-Boner.com
2/22/2007 10:27:07 AM

VELVET REVOLVER
SILVERCHAIR
&
ALTER BRIDGE

AXL WILL NOT BE MISSED ALL THAT MUCH...

COMMENT |
posted by : Met@l
2/22/2007 10:27:39 AM

Couldn´t care less after hearing the leaked songs and the bootlegs that are around of other songs live

COMMENT |
posted by : fergrhtght6789
2/22/2007 10:31:22 AM

aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AHA HA .............. FANTASTIC.

COMMENT | F*KK THE NEW N.I.N. HAIL THE NEW MANSON
posted by : T-Boner.com
2/22/2007 10:54:42 AM

"EAT ME, DRINK ME"

TRENT WHO????

COMMENT | The Crab Nebula
posted by : Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski
2/22/2007 10:57:55 AM


'My way, your way, up against the wall

Axl is a con man and he has f*cked you all!'

COMMENT | forget about it...
posted by : faithnomore4ever
2/22/2007 11:01:03 AM

Sorry t-boner, riot act 666 and all other GNR fans (including myself). Chi Dem ain't coming out on this date. I work in a music store, and no one at Universal has been able to confirm that it will be out on this date or any other day. Even though HMV UK takes pre-order for a april 2nd release date (see link below) most people in the music biz tend to think that Axl is only touring because he has been forced by David Geffen to do so, so Axl could pay back some of the money invested in the making of this "ghost" album, remember that more than 14 millions$ went down the drain so far...
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=2076;-1;-1;-1&sku=527255



COMMENT |
posted by : ThrashInHell
2/22/2007 11:05:25 AM

what else is new? lol

COMMENT | :'(
posted by : RiotAct666
2/22/2007 11:13:45 AM

:'(

COMMENT | Axl is God
posted by : Yambag
2/22/2007 11:22:58 AM

I will buy Chi-Dem whenever it's released

COMMENT | I bet
posted by : Metal Gimp
2/22/2007 11:26:46 AM

he's making it all up. And this album doesn't even exist. Now that would be funny! Talk about wind-up of the decade.....

COMMENT | Pot Black
posted by : Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski
2/22/2007 11:27:47 AM

'Even though HMV UK takes pre-order for a april 2nd release date (see link below) most people in the music biz tend to think that Axl is only touring because he has been forced by David Geffen to do so, so Axl could pay back some of the money invested in the making of this "ghost" album, remember that more than 14 millions$ went down the drain so far...'

HMV and Axl would be an ideal marriage as both take their customers for an expensive ride in the most shameless manner.

The price of Metal CDs in HMV should trigger a criminal investigation....


COMMENT |
posted by : bcrich848
2/22/2007 11:29:18 AM

yeah there is

i read its gonna be released feb 30, 2000-never

COMMENT | Lawks Amercy!
posted by : Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski
2/22/2007 11:32:25 AM


Musicians of this board come to my aid and speculate for me as to how it is even possible to spend 13 million dollars on a record's production?

COMMENT | Tituscrow
posted by : jnk6980
2/22/2007 11:34:53 AM

First of all im not a girl you fool, second NIN have nosedived since PHM. wtf, are you seroiusly retarded, or in denial of NIN'S brilliance (my vote goes for both). Oh and T-BONER (more like flaccid child) your a moron who the fuck still listens to Manson. I mean his only good albums were the ones in which Trent was pretty much doing all the work. so as i said before BOW DOWN BITCHES AND PICK UP THE NEW NIN "YEAR ZERO" APRIL 17.

COMMENT | BULL F*KKEN SH*T " still listens to Manson. I mean his only good albums were the ones in which Tren
posted by : T-Boner.com
2/22/2007 11:50:40 AM

That is his worst albums!!!! The Trent era= who cares!

Holy Wood
&
T.G.A.O.G.

ARE THE BEST MANSON!!!! ONLY ONES I STILL LISTEN TO!

COMMENT | "YEAR ZERO" AND THAT IS JUST WHAT IT WILL BE FOR N.I.N.
posted by : T-Boner.com
2/22/2007 11:52:47 AM

NEVER WAS A TRENT FAN , NEVER WILL BE.

HIS ONLY GOOD CLAIM IN LIFE IS THAT HE DID HELP MANSON AT ONE TIME BUT THAT WAS YESTERDAY... YESTERDAY IS DEAD AND GONE!

MANSON PAID HIS DUES.

AND MARILYN MANSON STANDS ON HIS OWN!!!!

COMMENT | NIN SUCKS BALLS
posted by : SON of AXL
2/22/2007 11:53:59 AM

CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW MOTHERFUCKERS!!

COMMENT | oh brotha...
posted by : Ojayy666
2/22/2007 11:54:31 AM

I stopped caring after Oh My God!

COMMENT | with the amount of time
posted by : savage 1492
2/22/2007 11:55:25 AM

that his album has taken to be released.. this fuckin' album better be fuckin' perfect to bring world peace and prosperity.

COMMENT | T-BONER
posted by : jnk6980
2/22/2007 11:58:34 AM

HAHAHAHA, you keep on thinking that and when both albums are released we can check the critical reviews and the revenue that both albums brought in to see who still matters. TDS is widely considered one of the best albums ever made while Manson is a fucking joke i can gladly say i never liked that hack he should have stayed "Dried up, tied up, and died to the world."

COMMENT | I ment
posted by : jnk6980
2/22/2007 12:00:33 PM

dead dammit

COMMENT | .
posted by : faithnomore4ever
2/22/2007 12:03:39 PM

"The price of Metal CDs in HMV should trigger a criminal investigation...."

I totally agree with that.




COMMENT | .
posted by : Pee Wee Herman
2/22/2007 12:09:13 PM

it's not there is no official release date for Chinese Democracy, it's there is NO release date for Chinese Democracy. Metallica will release 2 albums before this comes out. Sabbath w/ Ozzy will finally release a new album and so will Kiss.

COMMENT | T-Boner vs Axl
posted by : tpie
2/22/2007 12:30:15 PM

who is the bigger loser?

COMMENT | Doesnt feel like gnr
posted by : SlayerJay
2/22/2007 12:32:29 PM

Just feels like an over glamourized,outdated,outclassed Side project that no one is interested in hearing

COMMENT | Muahahaha
posted by : TornadoOfSouls
2/22/2007 12:41:31 PM

Axl "Has-Been" Who...?

COMMENT | This isn't GNR............
posted by : dokkenfan
2/22/2007 12:43:58 PM

Axl killed that a LONG time ago. He will never have the popularity he once had when he was with the original lineup, he knows it, and he can't handle it. He also knows that VR's new CD will leave his new CD in the dust. So much wasted money, so much wasted time, and for what..........an album that will never see the light of day. The question I have is who the hell thought it was a brilliant idea to front so much money to this friggin loser when there are several more deserving artists who would kill for just half of that money and time up front to do an album???

COMMENT |
posted by : david10006
2/22/2007 12:49:21 PM

in other news....the world is round and water is wet.

COMMENT | for all you people who think chinese democracy sucks
posted by : p_A_C_OJ
2/22/2007 1:00:14 PM

its leaked on the net...even though its all demo quality stuff. its fucking great!

COMMENT | I've heard the album
posted by : Skeleton Of Society
2/22/2007 1:00:47 PM

Or at least 10 songs that were definitely Axl and his merry band of cohorts. It was better than I expected, but NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING can justify the decade plus long wait for the friggin' thing to be released.

I think the GNR fans that have stuck around through all of his antics will pleased for the most part, but whatever you do AVOID THE NU-METAL song at all costs! I would hope Axl would be smart enough to leave that track off of the album though. I'm sure there's more than what I heard that's going to be released though. I would think there goddamn well better be when you haven't released a second of new material in a longer span of time than some of our more immature Blabbermouth posters have been alive...

COMMENT | You mean pousers
posted by : jnk6980
2/22/2007 1:06:29 PM

anyway i have heard some of the songs and i think i already mentioned that there ok but not good enough to have waited 13 years and his voice is really different. Oh and havn't heard the nu-metal song, however it wouldn't make it the first time AXL has babbled in rap remember "MY WORLD" yeah i know you wanted to forget, lol.

NIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : CrueYouDouchebag
2/22/2007 1:29:19 PM

The band did complete its first successful North American road trip [...]

I remember them cancelling a number of dates to work on the record. So cancelling the final dates=completion of tour?

COMMENT | NOW PLAYING: MEGADETH ... BACK WHEN THRASH WAS THRASH
posted by : T-Boner.com
2/22/2007 1:40:31 PM

AND COMPUTERS/PRO-TOOLS/DRUM MACHINES DID NOT MAKE MUSIC BUT REAL LIFE HUMANS DID~

SONG PLAYING:
"GOOD MOURNING/BLACK FRIDAY "

WOW^

COMMENT | "T-Boner vs Axl
posted by : Erotik Roboter
2/22/2007 1:48:42 PM

who is the bigger loser?"

Definitely t-boner. Axl has lost more money on Chinese Democracy than Flaccid Child will ever earn.


COMMENT | Erotik Roboter
posted by : tpie
2/22/2007 1:52:20 PM

i concur.

COMMENT | ESTRANGED - Axl Rose
posted by : Basajaun
2/22/2007 1:58:01 PM


When you're talkin to yourself
And nobody's home
You can fool yourself
You came in this world alone
(Alone)

So nobody ever told you baby
How it was gonna be
So what'll happen to you baby
Guess we'll have to wait and see
One, two

Old at heart but I'm only 28
And I'm much too young
To let love break my heart
Young at heart but it's getting much too late
To find ourselves so far apart


I don't know how you're s'posed
To find me lately
An what more could you ask from me
How could you say that I never needed you
When you took everything
Said you took everything from me


Young at heart an it gets so hard to wait
When no one I know can seem to help me now
Old at heart but I musn't hesitate
If I'm to find my own way out


Still talkin' to myself and nobody's home
(Alone)


So nobody ever told us baby
How it was gonna be
So what'll happen to us baby
Guess we'll have to wait and see


When I find out all the reasons
Maybe I'll find another way
Find another day
With all the changing seasons of my life
Maybe I'll get it right next time
An now that you've been broken down
Got your head out of the clouds
You're back down on the ground
And you don't talk so loud
An you don't walk so proud
Any more, and what for


Well I jumped into the river too many times
to make it home
I'm out here on my own, an drifting all alone
If it doesn't show give it time
To read between the lines
'Cause I see the storm getting closer
And the waves they get so high
Seems everything We've ever known's here
Why must it drift away and die


I'll never find anyone to replace you
Guess I'll have to make it thru, this time
Oh this time
Without you


I knew the storm was getting closer
And all my friends said I was high
But everything we've ever known's here
I never wanted it to die

COMMENT |
posted by : Biki
2/22/2007 2:03:33 PM

yeah no shit


COMMENT | No official date yet?!
posted by : weballergy
2/22/2007 2:05:29 PM

C'mon, are these guys kidding...?

...NOT!

COMMENT | heh
posted by : vandilization
2/22/2007 2:10:03 PM

"Metallica will release 2 albums before this comes out."

Metallica put out 3 albums and one double album before this came out. haha!

COMMENT | Son of Axl
posted by : MoltenLavaStudios
2/22/2007 2:39:41 PM

"CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW MOTHERFUCKERS!!"
------------------------------------------------------------------

You are truly hilarious.


COMMENT | seriously
posted by : DeaDlyCorpSe528
2/22/2007 2:48:11 PM

i never liked this band cause of their attitude towards its fanbase and yes mainly axl out of all but i see all this publicity and all this shit for this cd and when they put some samples not that many ppl praised it so i think i speak for a lot of ppl that he can stick that cd up his ass and do us all a favor about not putting stuff on these morons let mtv and gossip media handle such a thing they do a good job of being on their dicks enough. heh reminds me of a bad marriage the husband beats the wife and she still says its because he loves me see the resemblence on this band and its fans hehehe oh well just a thought

COMMENT | I wish Blabbermouth would stop posting these non "news" stories
posted by : nodeerforamonth
2/22/2007 2:53:43 PM

Who ever believed this album was ever going to come out? This isn't news!!!

COMMENT |
posted by : EL PENDEJO
2/22/2007 3:12:15 PM

who's actually going to buy this?

COMMENT | who will buy it?
posted by : imrighturwrong
2/22/2007 3:20:19 PM

who will buy it? Why, you will, El Pendejo. Yes...you will.

And...you will be in line for a ticket to one of the shows on this summer's VanHalen tour. Yes, you will.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w242/sirright/vanhalenreborn.jpg

COMMENT |
posted by : burns1059
2/22/2007 3:29:44 PM

What a shocker

COMMENT | Yawn...
posted by : Andersonic
2/22/2007 3:33:30 PM

and yawn again

COMMENT | NO release date right
posted by : blabber_scum
2/22/2007 5:11:53 PM

So is this the postings for people that like shitty bands NIN, Manson and gunner are all sellouts who 'nosedived' along time ago if you want some real metal go listen to Amon Amarth

COMMENT | i still listen to manson
posted by : phuct_666
2/22/2007 5:21:36 PM

but g.a.o.g. is a coaster on my coffee table. new manson may suck unfortunatly. as for g-n-p, axl rose, much like t-boner, is an inbred piece of shit. this album is never coming out. the 13 million dollars probably never went to recording. probably pumped it into his nose. cant belive they gave that much money. also does anyone actually go to t-boner.com or is it just make believe like chineese democracy?

COMMENT | .
posted by : Pee Wee Herman
2/22/2007 5:41:59 PM

"Metallica will release 2 albums before this comes out."

Metallica put out 3 albums and one double album before this came out. haha!

i know and they'll release at least 2 more before this ever gets released. so will sabbath w/ ozzy, heaven and hell, kiss, misfits with danzig and doyle, van halen and pretty much everyone else.

COMMENT | That headline
posted by : Metallideth
2/22/2007 9:35:42 PM

BIG SURPRISE!!!

COMMENT | There is no official release date for Chi-Dem...
posted by : Steelers Own You
2/22/2007 10:15:32 PM

BECAUSE IT AIN'T NEVER COMING OUT!!!!

COMMENT | electric light orchestra
posted by : shawnlanewasgawd
2/22/2007 11:05:24 PM

Have you guys ever heard Jeff Lynne's ELO stuff? Beats the heck outta November Rain.

Even he has put out an album since the last GNR...and he has also re-released most-if-not-all of the ELO discs.

Really extravagant production and interesting music, that ELO.

COMMENT | Fuck this!
posted by : reub the rocker
2/23/2007 6:42:30 AM

Im gettin plain pissed off with Axl, either bring the fookin album out or go and boil your head, how many announcements can you possibly make about not releasing an album, I heard he lost the only copy of the finished article during his fight with Hilfiger, Tommy broke it to see him cry and now he has to start recording the whole thing again, only trouble is he cant remember how half the songs go as he wrote them like 15 years ago!
Expect it to be release around 3007 A.D

COMMENT | Axl's Schedule
posted by : dmacsac
2/28/2007 3:54:45 PM

Remember that Axl Rose once postponed the celebration of Christmas, so this guy is obviosly not playing with a full deck.

By the way, I read this in the Rolling Stone article in which they reported on his dissapearance from the public eye.

COMMENT | Almost D day.
posted by : celticrock
3/5/2007 11:29:34 AM

So eh who is getting ready to hit the stores tomorrow March 6th for Chinese Democracy? Anyone? Oh, it's not ready yet? Oh, ok. Silly me. Well just call me when it is. I'm sure a zimmerframe will be available in order for me to walk to the store or computer so as I can get it. Now what date is it they said pigs will fly?



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