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EDDIE VAN HALEN's Son WOLFGANG: 'I'm Too Young' To Tour With VAN HALEN
- Apr. 7, 2007
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Wolfgang Van Halen, the 16-year-old son of VAN HALEN guitarist Eddie Van Halen and the projected replacement for VH bassist Michael Anthony, has told People magazine that he isn't disappointed there will be no VAN HALEN tour this summer following his father's decision to check himself into rehab. "My dad's taking care of himself," he said. "I also think I'm too young for the experience, because I know there are a lot of bad things out there."
Eddie Van Halen issued a statement addressed to fans in early March announcing that he was seeking treatment because "at the moment I do not feel that I can give you my best.
"That's why I have decided to enter a rehabilitation facility to work on myself, so that in the future I can deliver the 110 percent that I feel I owe you and want to give you," the statement said.
Back in January, Eddie Van Halen told Rolling Stone magazine about Wolfgang, "Wait until you hear this kid play. I pick him up from school every day and we jam. We've got a shredding bass player now that's laying down the law for Alex [Van Halen, drums], so I get to weave in and out."
VAN HALEN was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in March.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/7/2007 8:43:17 PM
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Hopefully next summer they do a reunion tour with all 4 original members. Wolfie can be a roadie.
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COMMENT | He must hate his dad?
posted by :
4/7/2007 8:45:06 PM
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That's years of therapy right there folks LOL On again, off again, on again.....rehab? doh
JERRY JERRY JERRY
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/7/2007 8:49:38 PM
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Wolfgang: Thanks for saying what we were all thinking.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/7/2007 8:50:48 PM
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Not interested, really.
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COMMENT | Remember........................
posted by :
4/7/2007 8:57:57 PM
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...............at the end of the "Hot for teacher" video where they show the band what they would be doing in the future?Remember Eddie sitting in the mental/psycho ward?How profetic!
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COMMENT | re: this kid is 100x smarter then Eddie AND Dave
posted by :
4/7/2007 9:08:49 PM
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I gotta agree with The Space Lord who said it best. Thanks for having your shite together Wolfgang. Clearly you're smart one of the relationship.
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COMMENT |
posted by : stirthepot
4/7/2007 9:13:17 PM
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And Valerie is losing 20-30 pounds with Weight Watchers.
What is next???
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COMMENT |
posted by : ...and the winds blew death
4/7/2007 9:15:56 PM
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I dont know if Wolfgang could make it through a long tour like that, at his age and experience. But not because of the 'hard life of a touring musician' but because of having to play 90-120 min every night in front of tens of thousands of people. Combine the memorization with the stress and the jitters playing in front of that many people and so on. Believe me, Eddie's little boy is gonna be sheltered whenever he does end up touring with em. So I dont think he'll exactly be touring like Eddie did in the old days, Roth did, etc.
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COMMENT | Sammy Sez:
posted by : sammy-hagars-car-on-ebay
4/7/2007 9:22:09 PM
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Cabo Wabo, Baby!
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COMMENT | wow
posted by : SP_Matt
4/7/2007 9:29:36 PM
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that's cool that Wolfgang actually came out and said that. I know a lot of people couldn't stand the kid not even hearing a word out of the kids mouth or having never heard him play. Fact is, the kid needs some real experience before he can go out and do any kind of tour outside of a club. You gotta start somewhere and pay your dues. Also cool that he supports his father. Valerie did well.
-matt
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/7/2007 9:33:55 PM
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though I found it cool having a 16 year old as the Van Halen bassist...since he thinks he's too young...bring back Mikey!
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COMMENT | Well...
posted by : RU555?
4/7/2007 9:38:02 PM
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The thing about VH is that those of us in a certain ag bracket (not going to say it, god damn it, but you can easily figure it out) were totally in awe of the mighty Van Halen. I'm talking about the Women and Children First/Diver Down/ and to a lesser extent 1984 Van Halen. OK, show of hands here, how many have been in the back seat of a fucking Camaro pinning some high school tart's heels behind her ears to an early VH tune? Yeah, thought so. Diamond Dave was a GOD and VH was THE only band that one would ever dream of, if given the chance, to have play at their birthday party. There isn't the kind of rock star worship today that went on at that level back then. A lot of us were actually living some semblance of Fast Times at Ridgemont High. The non-Gen X ers will not understand. Anyway, with all that said, a lot of us thought, I guess in error, that this band could somehow rise above the glut of one-hit or semi-popular 80's bands that are touring together playing county fairs and fucking 200 seat venues. Will VH ever re-capture the magic that made them the legend they are today...of course not. Can we dream of it and get a slight tinge of what our horny and bulletproof former selves experienced with Van Halen as a key contributor to the soundtrack...oh hell yes. Oh, by the way, Down owns.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Skanna
4/7/2007 9:41:25 PM
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Here's an idea - Get Gary Cherone back on vocals, and Nuno Bettencourt to fill in on guitar while Ed is in rehab. Vinnie Paul on drums and Mike Anthony on bass.
Ha ha ha .....
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COMMENT | goddamn
posted by :
4/7/2007 9:48:31 PM
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This kid has his head screwed on straight hope it rubs off on his dad
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COMMENT | Suddenly....
posted by : PikeChopsaw
4/7/2007 9:50:21 PM
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I have more respect for Wolfgang than I do for any member of Van Halen.
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COMMENT | Yeah Right Wolfie...
posted by : Cloud Connected
4/7/2007 9:57:49 PM
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He says that now only because the tour is over.
I dont recall this kiddie saying he was too young to tour three months ago.
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COMMENT | RE: slipknotripyourheadoff
posted by : steveowabo
4/7/2007 10:17:00 PM
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No, he's not too young...he's too old. The REAL reason he backed out is cause he hit puberty....and his nuts and voice dropped....that's why he can't sing backup anymore. Michael anthony puts that shrill hotsauce on his nuts every night...that's how HE sings so high..
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COMMENT | Kudos to Wolfgang
posted by : lake monster
4/7/2007 10:22:31 PM
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for having more sense than his old man ever did. BTW, word is that Ed spent a grand total of three days in rehab. Three days in rehab for thirty years of alcohol and drug addiction. Uh huh, sure Ed!
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COMMENT | BULLSHIT!!!
posted by : Rick Neilsen's Cap
4/7/2007 10:38:55 PM
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The guy can still shred better then anyboby out there today..
Thats the truth..
Its not his playing....yea booz is a problem for Eddie...
but still even if he was drunk off his ass he could still play anything off
those VH albums... You guys dont give the man credit on just how fuckin talented he really is.....
The fact is...Eddie Van Halen is a living legend he has been for over 20 years..
And he'll be back....with Dave...To kick your fuckin ass!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/7/2007 10:42:35 PM
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Next year, Van Halen will turn 30.
Baby, I'm your ice cream man.
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COMMENT | Cannot compare
posted by : danb66
4/7/2007 10:52:33 PM
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People were actually thinking Wolf could match up and fill Michael Anthony's shoes? I don't care how good the kid, he's only been learning the intrument for several months. Michael Anthony has been playing bass and singing longer than Wolf has been alive! Plus, the key to Van Halen's sound that put them apart from other bands was Mike's harmony vocals. They were very strong. Go on youtube and watch Van Halen doing ZZ Top's Beer Drinkers, and Hell Raisers, where Mike and Dave trade off on lead vocals. It's impressive. Wolf is not stupid. He knows Mike. He knows the importance of Mike's contribution to the band. I just hope Eddie gets well, fine tunes his playing, and get Mike back and give it another go. Get everyone on the same page and their heafd screwed on right and maybe it can be a good thing.
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COMMENT | Geesh Wolfie
posted by : sonicbrutality
4/7/2007 11:21:03 PM
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Not sure what I can say here that hasn't been said so well by so many others, but you're a bit young for just about everything, how about you just finish high school first, let's start with basic achievements, then you can possibly move on with your own music and live in Daddy's shadow for the rest of your life, phase 2 in your tour training would be not to make public statements, and remember phase 3, Penecillin is your friend.
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COMMENT |
posted by : steveowabo
4/8/2007 12:37:27 AM
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"but still even if he was drunk off his ass he could still play anything off Those VH albums...
Not true...I personally watched him take a 30 minute guitar solo in 2004 and I (who have seen them multiple times over) wasn't able to recognize he was playing the intro to "Mean Street" until someone behind me yelled it out...his boozing really has taken a negative affect on his playing...if he DID indeed spend just three days in rehab, then once again, they're Van Hasbeen.
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COMMENT | No Fucking Doubt
posted by : North Nova
4/8/2007 12:41:50 AM
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Not to mention that, you're RANK!
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COMMENT | Rick Neisen's Cap
posted by : lake monster
4/8/2007 12:51:23 AM
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"The guy can still shred better then anyboby out there today..
Thats the truth..
Its not his playing....yea booz is a problem for Eddie...
but still even if he was drunk off his ass he could still play anything off
those VH albums"
umm, you obviously didn't see any of the 2007 NAMM video clips of Ed at the Fender soiree. Fender had those puppies removed from YouTube the day after they were posted. The only one that remains is from a Dutch VH fan site.
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COMMENT | Just proves theywill never tour....
posted by : grlpwr
4/8/2007 1:33:39 AM
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...or have any new material. The band will be 30 and Sammy and Mike aren't involed anymore and who knows what Dave is doing, Gary's back with Extreme, Eddie's in rehab with his brother following his every comand, and his son has his ex-wife's brains and doesn't want to be involed in a tour or the band. So I guess it's thanks for the memories guys.
I love Van Halen and will miss all the versions of the band. : (
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COMMENT | Girl on a mission!
posted by : grlpwr
4/8/2007 1:47:48 AM
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And I love Van Halen.
I can play the guitar and Eddie is my idol, my husband is a bassist and he loves Mikey, but get this straight, you can not say I live under a rock, you must have been living under a rock let's see...............
Sammy has been the lead singer for Van Halen for 23 years since 1984 no one else, besides Gary, if you can count those very bad, hidden dark years for Van Halen. Sammy always brought the fans great production and great rock music from the band, Eddie expanded his guitar and piano / synth with the help of Sammy playing additional guitar, the band was also very happy and determand to play great music togehter, until Eddie started to let his drinking ruin the band and his marriage. Unlike the DLR days where the band started to fall apart during the Diver down album
and even recorded 1984 seperatly with Dave leaving the band during 1984. And hasn't done anything with the band except go on stage for the MTV Music Awards and a nasty phoot shoot of the no much of a reunion Van Halen,that was desperation at it's best. You could tell that Eddie didn't want to stand next to Dave so Alex had to, but he didn't want to either.
No Tour.
No Music.
No Mikey.
No Sammy.
No Van Halen.
Sorry.
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COMMENT | W O W
posted by : vanhagar
4/8/2007 2:09:12 AM
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I'm not touching that.
But it's true!
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COMMENT | RU555?
posted by : abby
4/8/2007 2:21:29 AM
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Nice post:)
Although all of that was a bit before my time I do remember being in junior high when 1984 came out. It's hard to explain Diamond Dave to people who missed out on his glory days. You are right to say he was a God. All the girls had his picture in their lockers and wanted him something fierce. He had that so-called animal magnetism in spades. If there has ever been a male sex symbol, it was him...and that is what made Van Halen the band it was. He was absolutely irreplaceable.
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COMMENT | Eddie and the kid
posted by : balslamer
4/8/2007 3:00:39 AM
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I think that the kid is smart by not choosing to go on tour. There's some really bad stuff out there but then again, touring is a great experience. It really opens the eyes up to what the world is all about and how people really are...and not in an entirely bad way. As for the dad...I think that if VH was to get back together with the original lineup or with Sammy then they should give the fans exactly 100 percent. They deserve it more than anything. VH is a cornerstone of guitar history. Every guitarist from the 80's and on always has Eddie as part of their growth and education and always considers him as a guitar great. He needs to go through this if he wants the band to move forward. I've teched for some of the better guitarists in heavy music and have heard the stories of the guys that have worked for them...which have always been good. I'd love to see VH tour again.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/8/2007 3:04:12 AM
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I think this is funny because anyone who has heard VH must automatically think of the bass player (accordin to many posts on here). I will not exagerate any bass playing or say I know this and that but anybody that confuses bass playing prowess with Van Halen need to re-evaluate some things. Really, there may be some kick ass bass parts in a Van Halen tune, but noone wil ever know when and where, because everyone concentrates on Eddie. Is it right, no....but it' just the way the cookie crumbles...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/8/2007 3:06:20 AM
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And yes, my spelling mistakes make me much less of a person so ajnything I have to say must be disregarded.
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COMMENT | Really?
posted by :
4/8/2007 4:42:50 AM
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This is such a revalation! bring back michael anthony
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COMMENT | van
posted by :
4/8/2007 7:39:42 AM
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i'm 32 and watched MTV back then and when i was about 10 or so jump came out and i got to be a huge fan and had all the stuff with david lee roth.my favorite was the first album and fair warning.i like the van hagar years and i would hum the tunes but he misses that dangerous fire david lee roth possesses.roth had a magical aura and i would go as far as to say he was the best frontman of all time.he would smoke hagar off the stage anyday of the week.van halen was easily the band of the 80's and is to my generation what nirvana was to the generation x'ers.i was into stuff like van halen,ac/dc,ozzy osbourne,motley crue,etc. back when all the young people listened to mostly rock and i think this was in junior high.a few years later of course rap came out and everybody chose to listen to that over the depressing grunge crap that was flooding the airwaves.miss ya dave and rock has went way downhill ever since you left van halen and guns n roses released the use your illusion masterpieces.sorry but after axl rose and david lee roth around the early 90's the rock stars were few and between.sure do miss 'em!!
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COMMENT | Get well Eddie
posted by :
4/8/2007 8:47:11 AM
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Wolfgang sounds like he has his head on straight. Now that his dad is sobering up, everyone's using a little more common sense. MA needs to be back on the bass.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/8/2007 8:49:44 AM
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Is this kid any good on the bass?
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COMMENT | FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH
posted by :
4/8/2007 9:56:16 AM
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That dude who posted the comment about Van Halen and our age bracket (I am 37) is right on the money.
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COMMENT | FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH
posted by :
4/8/2007 9:56:16 AM
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That dude who posted the comment about Van Halen and our age bracket (I am 37) is right on the money.
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COMMENT | GET WELL SOON EDDIE
posted by : RiotAct666
4/8/2007 11:12:35 AM
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Wolfgang is a smart kid. I hope Eddie finally gets his stuff together and back to rocking and ruling the world w/ VH once again.
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COMMENT | 78-84 VH has no 2007 equivalent
posted by :
4/8/2007 11:35:24 AM
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Ru555 is correct, I'm 41, in my high school years (80-84) the release of a VH album was a huge event. That was a time when music was not segmented into 567 different genres. When VH came to town freaks, jocks, Stoners, Drama club kids, nerds, cheerleaders, auto shop dudes, nat'l honor society members and even a few members of the faculty tried to get tickets . VH was an open to the public Keg party, everyone was welcome.
I can understand why it is hard for people born after 1980 or so, to put into context what it was like to have a favorite band before 200 cable channels, the internet, and other diversions like video games and cell phone worship. Don't get me wrong all these things are progress and I love them as well. My point is 25 years ago if you even wanted to see pictures of a band, you were limited to album covers and Magazines like Circus, Creem, Kerrang , Hit Parader and later on RIP. The level of effort required to follow a VH, Maiden, or Priest back in the day, plays a part in why my love of these bands is not evaporated things like Adulthood, Real jobs, Marriage, Mortgages, and Kids. Current VH may be an easy Target Train Wreck But Like Col. Trautman remarked when it was erroneously thought Rambo was trapped in the mine shaft "However he may have ended up, there was a time when he was very special"
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COMMENT | "because I know there are a lot of bad things out there."
posted by : wag
4/8/2007 11:48:51 AM
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Your dad's proof of that. Get well Eddie and make up with Mike and have a REAL VH tour with the REAL VH.
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COMMENT | HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS !
posted by :
4/8/2007 1:03:04 PM
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WOLF TOO YOUNG TO TOUR...A LOT OF BAD THINGS...PLEASE !
THE HEIR-APPARENT TO THE VAN HALEN EMPIRE WOULD HAVE WHAT'S IN HIS PANTS BECOME THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER GROUPIE TROPHY OF THE SUMMER TOURING SEASON. THE CONSTANT SEX IS WHAT WOULD TRULY FRY HIS YOUNG BRAIN !
ALTHOUGH I'M SURE HE ISNT A VIRGIN BY ANY MEANS.
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COMMENT | Van Halen and Culture 101
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/8/2007 1:06:12 PM
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I like the posts that try to describe the VH glory years.
They overflowed in power, confidence, and pleasure.
It was the music of bliss.
Kind of like early Beatles captured youthful bliss ("I Want To Hold Your Hand") but fueled by powerful hard rock music ("On Fire!").
No other band compared. The Rolling Stones were cool, but were for an earlier generation. As was "Clapton Is God!", Hendrix, The Doors, Zeppline and The Beatles. They were good music, but by then all part of music history, not current, not today - all one generation removed.
Contemporaries like AC/DC rocked, Iron Maiden and Priest ruled, Rush impressed, Motley was fun.
But all the elements came together in Van Halen.
The power combined with the blissful fun, perfectly captured youthful vigor and optimism. Youth put to music. The perfect soundtrack of youth. Is there any better?
Seen through a 14 year old's eyes, they seemed to travel at a million miles per hour and live life to the fullest. Be powerful, masterful, and in control. Know just what they were doing and how to do it. Masterminds.
No one knew Eddie was full of sappy ballads and whiney complaining and a really bizarre disconnection with the music fans and Van Halen's place in music history and so self-destructive and about to dry up and be so uninspired.
Van Halen was poised to be the biggest band in the world. The next Rolling Stones. Sort of like U2 are now. They had the hard rock fans from the get go but acheived crossover popularity with 1984, keeping the hard rock fans and scooping in everyone else.
If after 1984 they had released another huge album with DLR, capturing the Van Halen hard rocking, sunny spirit, it would have been an international smash. They were talking about doing a stadium tour after 1984 like the Stones and U2 do - because they could have, they were getting that big.
I'll never understand why Eddie threw it away.
And it was Eddie who threw it away.
Van Halen could have reconvened in the late 80s.
What could have been is astounding.
Astounding.
Here is a rock critic reviewing Best Of Both Worlds 2004 compliation at www.allmusic.com
"...the group never escaped the shadow of Diamond Dave. No matter how many number one albums and singles they racked up, no matter how many shows they sold out, fans and critics alike preferred their gonzo days with Roth, and kept hounding the band for a reunion.... [on the cd] [The] absurd sequencing that alternates a Dave song with a Sammy song for the bulk of the entire collection. This is a jarring sequencing, to say the least, causing a whiplash change of tone, mood, and attitude with every song, which are otherwise well-chosen, containing the big hits from each era (the only exception is the boneheaded move to end the collection with three cuts from the 1993 live album Live: Right Here, Right Now, all Diamond Dave songs sung by Sammy). This attempt to elevate Sammy above Dave in the canon is a bit like trying to say Ronnie James Dio was more important to Black Sabbath than Ozzy Osbourne -- a piece of flat-out hyperbole that does a disservice to what the singer actually achieved. David Lee Roth was larger than life, a gonzo performance artist touched with genius who helped Van Halen seem bigger, sillier, grander than any other metal band; with him in front, they were giants, they were golden gods. Sammy Hagar was his opposite, an everyman who sang about girls and tequila, somebody who brought Van Halen back down to earth. Since part of the fun of rock stars is to have them be larger than life, a manifestation of the audience's dreams, fans naturally gravitate toward the Diamond Dave years."
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COMMENT | 16 and Woolfie
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/8/2007 1:34:01 PM
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Think back to 16. Everything was overwhelming at 16.
The way the person across the classroom in history class looked at you was overwhelming at 16.
Let 16 year olds be 16.
Don't pluck the fruit off the tree before it is ripe.
And stop being so jealous of famous peoples' kids.
$ ain't everything and doesn't solve or fulfill everything.
You rock, Woolfie. Enjoy your youth.
Work on your flirting techniques with the girls, not your touring abilities.
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COMMENT | Come to think of it, what was Classic VH?
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/8/2007 1:40:47 PM
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It was the combination of the best elements of early Beatles (youthful bliss), The Rolling Stones (sexuality, coolness, confidence and swagger) and Hendrix (jaw-dropping guitar wizardry).
What a musical synthesis!
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COMMENT | What was Van Hagar?
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/8/2007 1:41:31 PM
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Journey on a really, really, really bad day.
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COMMENT | H U H ???
posted by :
4/8/2007 8:01:02 PM
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Dude you need to get a life, Van Halen was more than one person their were 6 and each one had theeir place in the group during one time or another and I respect your views and points, but there just that your views and points everyone on this site likes their frontman their bassist and all the versions of Van Halen.
I just want to say something to every Van Halen fan out there that likes all the version, your true fans and the Van Halen was and always will be the Best Rock Band Ever.
Long Live Van Halen.
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COMMENT | Yea
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/8/2007 11:16:36 PM
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And Menudo had a lot of rotating singers and they were all great. Just really, really great! I like them all!
Like what you will.
But don't expect everyone to like all versions of VH.
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COMMENT |
posted by : fullshredd
4/8/2007 11:38:40 PM
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Wolfie already has the good stuff in life,
His dad is one of the most influencial guitarists in history
He had a top selling range of guitars name after him
His family is rich
He gets free musical equipment
He gets to play Eddies guitars all day
Need I go on, sure his Dad is a fucked up pyscho now but I'm EVH still treats his son ok.
They need to bring back Michael Anthony on bass, the only reason they're doing this fucking tour is to make some money so why not do it properly!
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COMMENT | I hope Woolfie has it good
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/8/2007 11:52:33 PM
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$ ain't everything, dude.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by : OfSinsAndShred
4/9/2007 12:08:57 AM
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I bet it's because Van Halen's bass parts are too hard for him. Riding that E sure is tricky. ;)
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COMMENT | Heh Heh
posted by :
4/9/2007 12:43:13 AM
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You're not too young, the rest of the band ACT like 12 year olds so......
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COMMENT | ??????
posted by :
4/9/2007 12:45:15 AM
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Gunnar1234 needs to learn how to write proper english. wow
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COMMENT | DLR to WVH:
posted by :
4/9/2007 8:12:54 AM
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"Siddown, Waldo."
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COMMENT |
posted by : JO JO
4/9/2007 10:14:42 AM
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I think Wolfgang is graciously taking himself out of the picture so Mike Anthony can get back in the picture.
When he is ready to tour w/VH, there is no reason why he can't play keyboards and second guitar either.
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COMMENT | VH's legacy will ALWAYS BE WITH ROTH
posted by :
4/9/2007 12:37:48 PM
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The Hagar fans will bitch and whine about it but anyone who knows anything about rock history is well aware of which version of VH made history and which version (and frontman) changed rock n roll forever. And it was not the corporate power ballad producing cheap imitation that happened after 85'. It was the original four. Nothing more, nothing less. If you claim anything else you're a damn fool and have no credibility. But if you want to be a jackass and deny the truth then go right ahead. Doesn't change anything.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
4/9/2007 6:44:48 PM
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I wish Blabbermouth would stop posting VH stuff
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COMMENT | They will stop posting VH soon ......
posted by :
4/9/2007 11:57:42 PM
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..... because there will never be anymore VH;
Their to old and done.
Guitar companies don't want Eddie for their ads anymore.
Gary's back with Extreme.
Sammy and Mikey are doing their own thing making a lot of money and succeeding and don't need the VH.
DLR is all washed up and has proved that numerous times and hasn't fronted the band in 23 years.
Alex is not doing anything without Eddie.
And Eddie is going to be doing rehab for years to come.
Van Halen is just a good memory!
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COMMENT | And you forgot....
posted by :
4/10/2007 12:08:56 PM
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Sammy H did sound horrible at the hall of fame. Worst I think I've ever seen him. Just plain awful.
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COMMENT | Yeah, but check this out
posted by :
4/10/2007 5:26:56 PM
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Here's a little taste of VH in happier days I came across on youtube. Had never seen footage of VH in the studio before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQxDW_-pz1o
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COMMENT | Damn they were good!
posted by : vanhagar
4/10/2007 11:22:53 PM
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And they were having fun, that was when Eddie was happy.
Too bad those days weren't back again.
I miss Van Halen.
Oh yeh i miss Van Halen circa 1985-2005
They sounded like they were made for eachother.
A Band.
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COMMENT | That was a great video!
posted by :
4/10/2007 11:27:26 PM
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Sammy and Eddie worked well together, the band was so fluent.
Hey the guy that can't let go of DLR's dick, 0872 yah you, let go already, it's getting kind of stinky. He 60 you know.
blukkkk.
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COMMENT | Getting out number ain't you guys????
posted by : grlpwr
4/10/2007 11:30:55 PM
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Sorry but, I'll take unrehearsed VH with a bald guy playing piano over an old guy sing VH to country and a fiddle on CMT.
A lot more people here and out there love Sammy, even if your a girl or a guy, live with it.
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COMMENT | Whoa, Sammy got big bucks for his gutar!
posted by :
4/10/2007 11:38:35 PM
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That video was awsome dude, and I think that Eddie should reconsider and ..............
.........get back with Sammy and Mikey and do some new material.
Bring back Van Halen
Rock on Van Halen
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COMMENT | Wh o said Sammy and Eddie can't rock.
posted by :
4/10/2007 11:58:19 PM
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One of the Best Van Halen song ever!
5150
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzq17F-b9AU
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COMMENT | hey vinny the idiot
posted by :
4/11/2007 12:06:06 PM
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Actually YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN DOUCHEBAG. IT'S Hagar that is almost 60. Born in 47'. Roth on the other hand is only in his early 50's. Typical Hagar denail clan mode. You obviously don't know your ass from a hole in the ground like your hero. That fat bloated power ballad singing hack. Keep trying to convince yourself you're a man though. It's amusing. There was no VHalen after 1984. And their legacy is with DLR. I love making fools out of you clowns.
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COMMENT | grlpwr===ANOTHER LYING FOOL
posted by :
4/11/2007 12:18:54 PM
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Gee -so more people love Van Hagar than love classic VHalen. So is that why VHalen have sold 34 MILLION records as opposed to 18 million by Van Hagar? Is that why they had more top 20 hits with DLR than Hagar? Is that why the vast majority of tribute bands play exclusively DLR material? Is that why the most recent poll had DLR led VH winning by a nearly 80% to 20% margin? Is that why classic rock radio plays a disproportionate amount of DLR VH? And why did Van Hagar LOSE MONEY on the road in 04' according to Rolling Stone Magazine? If so many peole prefer them shouldn't they have cleaned up on the road? You're easy fool. You're making chicks look real bad too. Now go listen to some Journey you "rocker".
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COMMENT | it is stupid to think
posted by :
4/11/2007 12:26:51 PM
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that the post Roth stuff measures up. It just doesnt. All the stuff hes saying is true really. All the polls I see are the same. DLR era always wins. Im sure you could find a poll here or there where Sammy H wins but overall its not really that close. And grlpwr just because you prefer vanhagar doesn't mean most people do. They dont. Van Halen I and 1984 are all time classic rock albums. They didnt do anything like that with SH. You and the other SH fans only come accross like young kids who dont know anything about the history of rock when you try and say different. Van Halen will be remembered for the DLR stuff.
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COMMENT | Anyone heard the latest on Eddie?
posted by :
4/11/2007 1:15:11 PM
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I heard a rumor he bailed on rehab after only 3 days. If true, that certainly doesn't bode well for him or the band regardless of who's singing. Regardless of whether you prefer DLR or Sammy, let's be honest - the true key member of VH is Eddie. (BTW, I didn't post that youtube link hoping it would start another round of SLR v. Sammy debates - just thought it might be interesting to those, like me, who had never seen footage of VH in the studio - plus it sounds great).
It seems silly to argue over 50 something DLR v. 60 year old Sammy when there won't be any VH in any form unless Eddie gets himself straightened out. And to be honest, I don't know if that's going to happen - recent photos of him it looks like he's got one foot in the grave already and if he's bailing on rehab that quickly, his drug and alcohol addictions are severe. Not to mention how his addictions have changed his personality and caused him to treat so many people so badly. So...just wondering if anyone heard anything about Eddie because I'd sure like to see VH again.
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COMMENT | Hey, I loved that video!
posted by :
4/11/2007 2:06:42 PM
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I wasn't bringing that fued up again, I seriously think that they should have kept going with new material in 2005 which was Van Halen for the past 22 years until the boose and drugs and ego got ahold of Eddie.
Damn that was a great video.
Here is another from Tokyo, Japan (live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1IB5c2N0lA
awsome dude !!!!!
Van Halen Rocks!
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COMMENT | Oh should I say it is great production!
posted by :
4/11/2007 2:12:41 PM
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That is for live stuff.
check it out \/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1IB5c2N0lA
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COMMENT | That's a really cool video!
posted by :
4/11/2007 2:31:56 PM
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I think Sammy is so good loking then, he has wonderful hair, I heard he was a good boxer, and your right the production of the live video was flawless, looks like it was probably for a MTV video or promotion. No mistakes.
I also would like to comment on any fueds hear, I'm new here, but, it looks like the David Lee Roth fans are either in denial or jealous. Van Halen isn't about David anymore Sammy Hagar is the present day Van Halen, (don't get me wrong I liked VH then) but Sammy was at the Hall of Fame, and he still preforms Van Halen songs at his own concerts with Michael Anthony. If Eddie would let his brothter tour with them, they would be less one to make up Van Halen and probably be as great again. Eddie can't be involved he is way to addicted to drugs, booze and power.
He'll ruin it, like Tom Shulz ruined Boston.
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COMMENT | Actually...
posted by :
4/11/2007 2:37:57 PM
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like the rest of the Hagar denial clan you're completely wrong and ass backward. SH is not the lead singer of VH right now. Hasn't been since 2004. Before that he wasn't for nearly 8 years. He is not the present official representation for VHalen in any way shape or form. Talk about living in denial. That's all the Hagar fans do. And your babble will never change the fact that VH's legacy is with DLR. The FACTS prove it.
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COMMENT | Its true
posted by :
4/11/2007 2:44:52 PM
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SH wasn't the lead singer for VH for close to 10 years. When they did get together it only lasted for a tour (and a not so successful one at that according to some articles in mags). To say that he is somehow current VH is simply a lie. Hes not. VH may never do anything together again but in reality the last lineup technically was with Roth and Wolfgang. They didnt do anything because of Eds drug problem but it was the last lineup that was official. You Sammy fans do lie alot. Ive noticed it over and over again. Just make things up as if they are true. I dont know what youre taking but it makes you lie alot. That is for sure.
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COMMENT | Nice try
posted by :
4/11/2007 3:44:11 PM
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Hey 0872rk - who cares about the last announced line up if they didn't do anything? i think you may be the only person who looks at it that way. Did they ever even make it into the studio or was it only for the photoshoot? I do agree with you that Sammy is not a member of VH (nor is Mike). I think they both would agree on that point.
The last lineup that did anything was the 2004 version with Sammy. Frankly, you're correct about the tour not being a huge success. Having seen the show, I'm not surprised. But it had nothing to do with Alex, Mike or Sammy. I'd read many of the earlier reviews from the tour that talked about what a mess Eddie was. Sadly, it proved to be worse than I expected. While Alex, Mike and Sammy all sounded great and were working their asses off to give a great show, Eddie killed the whole experience. He kept losing track of where he was within a song, or even which song he was playing. The solos were a jumbled mess (Wolfgang came out and finished his solo for him and sounded 100 times better). The few times he tried to speak to the crowd, you couldn't understand a word he was saying - between the slurring and the inability to stand steadily up to the microphone. He was wasted. The saddest part of all - during one song late in the show, Sammy gave Eddie a hug and Eddie angrily pushed him away. Sammy just walked away shaking his head sadly, which is about all any VH fan can do these days.
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COMMENT | Hartman
posted by :
4/11/2007 3:56:55 PM
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You can apologize for SH all you want but it doesnt change facts. Yes the last official lineup was with Roth and Wolfgang. Never said they recorded or toured. That was still the last official lineup. Stop lying. Thats all you do from what I can tell. And the buzz for the Hagar tour was minimum at best. Trying to blame the bad ticket sales on Eddie is a joke. It was because there wasnt the demand for Van Hagar. You know it as well as I do. Why you protect SH so much is beyond me anyway. Hes got a huge ego like the rest of them and hes lied about album sales and even Eddie said he didnt want seperate greatest hits packages put out because he was afraid the Roth disc would outsell his era. And it would have. You know it.
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COMMENT | 0872rk.... thanks for reminding me
posted by :
4/11/2007 4:02:20 PM
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AWESOME. Thanks for reminding me of the greatest hits package situation. I remember Ed clearly stating that Hagar was dead set against having 2 seperate discs because he was terrified that the Roth disc would outsell his era. Hilarious. Hagar knows what the deal is. He would most likely never admit it but he knows. Trust me.
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COMMENT | Really?
posted by :
4/11/2007 4:55:53 PM
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Tell me...where did I lie 0872rk? I didn't say VH didn't announce the DLR/Wolfgang lineup. All I said was they didn't do anything with that lineup. And I agreed with you that Sammy's not a member of VH. So if you are going to call me a liar, please have the courtesy (and the balls) to cite examples.
Who needs to apologize for Sammy? As a fan of VH in all its forms (who just happens to prefer Sammy's voice over DLR), I can confidently say that Sammy, Mike and Alex were the only ones that cared about the fans during the 2004 tour. (Mike even had to take Eddie's BS paycut to participate). Sammy and Mike are the only ones that cared enough about VH fans to show up for the RRHOF, which no matter how you slice it or no matter how bad you want to criticize their performance (and I know you do), is flat out inexcusable. Eddie, Al and DLR all should have been there. No true VH fan can possible disagree. At the very least, they should have sent along thanks to be delivered by someone else. Be honest... as a VH fan, didn't that bother you in the least that Ed, Al and DLR didn't show or send along thanks? Also, Sammy and Mike are the only ones making any music and playing for the fans. Neither one of them owes anyone an apology.
And speaking of the greatest hits package, if what you say about Sammy's concerns over comparisons with DLR is true, does that remind you of anyone else? Say...DLR bailing from the RRHOF induction and using the fact velvet revolver wouldn't play jump as an excuse? He would have been there in a heartbeat singing any VH song if he thought he wasn't going to be compared to Sammy who was also going to be singing. (yeah, we know what you're going to say about the performance). The silly thing is, no one would have cared whether he sounded good/bad/better than Sammy/worse than Sammy or even if he performed at all. The fans, including me, just would have liked to have him show up and say thanks.
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COMMENT | Hartman youre a jackass
posted by :
4/11/2007 5:27:32 PM
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You clearly implied that since the 07' announced lineup/tour postponed that it wasnt real. Otherwise why did you say what you said. And no it doesnt bother me that Roth didnt show up. He had the right to sing the song he wanted. I play guitar and Jump is an easy riff to learn on the keyboard. Paul S and his band could have learned it (if they didnt already know it- its only one of the most popular songs of all time) easily but Weiland admitted they told Roth it was ATBLove or nothing. So no I understood why Roth told them to shove it. If I were being inducted I would expect to be able to pick the song I would perform. Youre just trying to spin the reason that Roth didnt show up to suit your agenda. The facts say different. Its almost always your opinion on these things rather than facts. Ill take Weiland stating the reason why Roth didnt perform over your meaningless opinion any day of the week. And you sure have a lot of guts to assume that Roth would have sounded bad since it was clear to anyone with a working brain that Sammy sounded like shit.
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COMMENT | 0872rk
posted by :
4/11/2007 5:54:58 PM
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You have to remember who you're speaking to. These are die hard members of the HDC (Hagar denial clan). Any supposed fan of VH who doesn't remember Eddie stating Hagar's fears about 2 different greatest hits packages is most likely simply a liar. Just like Hagar lying all these years about album sales. I've caught them lying repeatedly in posts (and pointed them out). It's because they have virtually nothing. I'm telling you it f'ing kills them that VH's legacy will be overwhelmingly with DLR. They can't stand it. So instead of just admitting it they lie, spin and do anything else they can to try and convince people who may not know that there is no discrepancy. If you just stick to the facts (which are plentiful) then making fools of them will be simple. Trust me on this. Great story for you 0872rk---I was at a club once a couple of years ago and they had a night where musicians could get up and play VH tunes for fun. All of the equipment was furnished minus a few minor things like drummers had to use their own cymbals and such. They had a Sabbath night. Kiss night. And VH night. On the VH night flyer it actually stated that anyone who attempted to play that VHagar sh*t would be removed from the stage immediately and rushed to the local hospital for a testicle transplant. I nearly passed out I laughed so hard. The HDC will never understand why it was so funny.
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COMMENT | Would it help you if I typed slower?
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:03:05 PM
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Who's being an apologist now? C'mon dude, why would DLR give the ultimatum of Jump or else I'm not coming? Especially since he's gone on the record criticizing that song because of the keyboards. I don't know where you got your info that Weiland told him ATBlove or nothing. I read they told him they couldn't do jump because they don't have keyboards. VR are accomplished musicians - they should have been able to throw together a number of VH tunes for him. But even if it's true that they would only play ATBlove, why couldn't he sing that? And if he was going to insist on jump or nothing, why couldn't he still show up but just not perform?
And I never said he'd sound bad - you keep wanting to put words in my mouth like you did with the lineup announcement. I think HE assumed he wouldn't sound as good as Sammy since he got to read that very thing in almost every concert review during the 2002 tour with Sammy. Guess we'll never know since he didn't have the balls or the gratitude to his fans to show up.
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COMMENT | Actually Hartman
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:16:05 PM
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MELODICROCK.COM REPORTED shortly after the ceremony that Weiland admitted that Roth only had the choice of doing ATBLove or Jamie's Cryin or YRGMe. And he (Roth) was adamant about doing Jump. It was on the MARCH 14, 2007 report. YOU CAN STILL PULL IT UP DOUCHE. Since you'll probably be to much of a coward I'll copy it here: Frontman Scott Weiland explained the ensuing controversy: "We were asked to perform. Kinda what happened was, he wanted to sing the song 'Jump.' We felt from an artistic standpoint, and I'm being totally honest with you, that it wasn't a song we felt comfortable with. We don't have keyboards. To bring a keyboard on stage wouldn't work for us. We said we'd do "Jamie's Cryin'" or "You Really Got Me," and he was adamant that wasn't okay." So see Hartman you've BEEN BUSTED AGAIN. Oh yeah, AND I STILL OWN YOUR ASS BOY. LIAR.
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COMMENT | I dont know
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:30:36 PM
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Why Roth only wanted to perform Jump. Probably has something to do with the fact that its easily VH's most popular tune and one of the most popular tunes ever recorded. Its not my fave song by them but it is the most popular song they have (see how Im able to seperate my opinion from common sense facts). I would have done the same thing though. The artists/performers should always get to pick the songs they want to play. Its their night. Its about them. If they feel a certain song represents the most to the most amount of people then so be it. They should get to play it. They shouldnt be told you have this choice or that choice. It should be up to them alone.
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COMMENT | 0872rk
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:34:04 PM
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All these excuses you cling to for why DLR doesn't care about you and his other worshippers sounds like a domestic abuse victim. You know, the wife who gets beaten up but then makes excuses like "it was an accident" or "I deserved it." "DLR wanted to go to the RRHOF to pay tribute to his fans but it wasn't his fault. They wouldn't let him sing Jump." I get why you are so defensive about it. You don't want to admit your idol doesn't care about you when you care so much about him. That or you don't want to admit he chickened out.
Welcome back, fthegop. Glad to see you could stop giving DLR a Rusty Trombone long enough to say the same thing you've been saying all along. Was it your mouth or your arm that was getting tired?
The fact is, this whole VH debate just doesn't matter anymore now that Eddie has skipped out on rehab. Stick a fork in him and the band with any possible lineup. Eddie's done, so VH is done I'm sad to say. I hope he proves me wrong. I really do.
0872rk and fthegop, you can have your VH legacy any way you want it. I'll take mine. Cause that's all we're gonna have from VH to remember them by now. You can wait around hoping DLR does something for the fans - maybe even eventually get to tour with VH. Me, I'm going to see Sammy and Mike in Tahoe on Cinco de Mayo. Don't imagine I'll see you there.
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COMMENT | fthegop, you are an idiot.
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:37:38 PM
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you just proved my point that DLR had options.
I get what you're saying 0872rk but I disagree that the night is about the performers. I think it should be for the fans. Nobody gets in to the hall of fame without having fans.
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COMMENT | I HAVE TASTE....
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:39:51 PM
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So no you will not see me there. And I herby give you permission to go boy (since I OWN your bitch ass). Sorry to have embarrased you yet again but it gives me so much pleasure I just can't refrain. Enjoy all of those "rockin" power ballads.
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COMMENT | See Hartman... BOY...
posted by :
4/11/2007 6:57:12 PM
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My point (and the truth) is that Roth (for his own reasons that only he knows) wanted to do Jump. VR said they wouldn't do it (for their reasons). I basically haven't said one negative thing about VR because it's their choice to do a song they feel they will sound best on. Just like it's Roth's choice to do the song he either feels most comfortable singing or the song that he feels will resonate with the most amount of people. You try to spin and claim he's chicken when he OBVIOUSLY was willing to perform. PS's band could have easily done Jump. They could have even slightly modified it to simplify the middle arrangement (which is the only real tricky part) but they chose not to or weren't offered the chance by the Hall. But as usual being the douche you are you claim to have some knowledge as to why Roth didn't perform. When all you have is your opinion. Once again I HAVE FACTS. See that is why you're such a douchebag Hartman. You rarely if ever recite facts. It's just all your opinion. That is why you have no credibility. And that is why I will forever OWN your ass boy. See. Oh, and of course that VH's legacy will be forever linked with Roth.
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COMMENT | Hey Hartman, I almost forgot
posted by :
4/11/2007 7:26:39 PM
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When you see him tell Hagar he can go ahead and use a condom on you while you're in Tahoe. There has still been no recorded male on male produced fetus yet.
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COMMENT | sorry fthegop
posted by :
4/11/2007 8:59:00 PM
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I'm just your run of the mill fan. I don't worship Sammy the way you do DLR so no need for condoms...although I'm pretty sure your father wishes he'd used one.
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COMMENT | Run of the mill......
posted by :
4/12/2007 12:01:53 PM
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That was actually the most pathetic of all of your BS. Average fan of Hagar, and going to Tahoe to see him. Uh, ok. You're transparent. No matter how desperate you try not to be. Now go send a message to all of your little pro Hagar buddies at whatever web site it is that you all congregate at and tell them that it doesn't matter how many of them you get to sign up here or anywhere else. It will never change the facts. VH's nearly supreme legacy will always rest with first 6 albums and DLR. There is nothing you or any of them can do to change that.
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COMMENT | Hmmm
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/12/2007 2:39:23 PM
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Can Van HAgar fans say this about Van Hagar music...
I like the posts that try to describe the VH glory years.
They overflowed in power, confidence, and pleasure.
It was the music of bliss.
Kind of like early Beatles captured youthful bliss ("I Want To Hold Your Hand") but fueled by powerful hard rock music ("On Fire!").
No other band compared. The Rolling Stones were cool, but were for an earlier generation. As was "Clapton Is God!", Hendrix, The Doors, Zeppline and The Beatles. They were good music, but by then all part of music history, not current, not today - all one generation removed.
Contemporaries like AC/DC rocked, Iron Maiden and Priest ruled, Rush impressed, Motley was fun.
But all the elements came together in Van Halen.
The power combined with the blissful fun, perfectly captured youthful vigor and optimism. Youth put to music. The perfect soundtrack of youth. Is there any better?
Seen through a 14 year old's eyes, they seemed to travel at a million miles per hour and live life to the fullest. Be powerful, masterful, and in control. Know just what they were doing and how to do it. Masterminds.
No one knew Eddie was full of sappy ballads and whiney complaining and a really bizarre disconnection with the music fans and Van Halen's place in music history and so self-destructive and about to dry up and be so uninspired.
Van Halen was poised to be the biggest band in the world. The next Rolling Stones. Sort of like U2 are now. They had the hard rock fans from the get go but acheived crossover popularity with 1984, keeping the hard rock fans and scooping in everyone else.
If after 1984 they had released another huge album with DLR, capturing the Van Halen hard rocking, sunny spirit, it would have been an international smash. They were talking about doing a stadium tour after 1984 like the Stones and U2 do - because they could have, they were getting that big.
I'll never understand why Eddie threw it away.
And it was Eddie who threw it away.
Van Halen could have reconvened in the late 80s.
What could have been is astounding.
Astounding.
Here is a rock critic reviewing Best Of Both Worlds 2004 compliation at www.allmusic.com
"...the group never escaped the shadow of Diamond Dave. No matter how many number one albums and singles they racked up, no matter how many shows they sold out, fans and critics alike preferred their gonzo days with Roth, and kept hounding the band for a reunion.... [on the cd] [The] absurd sequencing that alternates a Dave song with a Sammy song for the bulk of the entire collection. This is a jarring sequencing, to say the least, causing a whiplash change of tone, mood, and attitude with every song, which are otherwise well-chosen, containing the big hits from each era (the only exception is the boneheaded move to end the collection with three cuts from the 1993 live album Live: Right Here, Right Now, all Diamond Dave songs sung by Sammy). This attempt to elevate Sammy above Dave in the canon is a bit like trying to say Ronnie James Dio was more important to Black Sabbath than Ozzy Osbourne -- a piece of flat-out hyperbole that does a disservice to what the singer actually achieved. David Lee Roth was larger than life, a gonzo performance artist touched with genius who helped Van Halen seem bigger, sillier, grander than any other metal band; with him in front, they were giants, they were golden gods. Sammy Hagar was his opposite, an everyman who sang about girls and tequila, somebody who brought Van Halen back down to earth. Since part of the fun of rock stars is to have them be larger than life, a manifestation of the audience's dreams, fans naturally gravitate toward the Diamond Dave years."
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COMMENT | damn right....
posted by :
4/12/2007 3:13:40 PM
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The original VH with ROTH blazed a trail that nearly every other 80's hard rock band tried to follow in some way or form. Their influence was enormous. Eddie as a guitarist and Roth as frontman supreme. I was recently watching a documentary that VH1 did. I think it was called the story of metal or something. They did a good job, pretty thorough. When it came to VH they of course only referred to the Roth led lineup. They even mentioned the opening stint for the original B Sabbath around 78' and specifically stated that VH blew them off the stage (Sabbath have admitted this over the years actually) and one of the historians said "no one had ever seen anything like Roth" referring to his prowess as a frontman. Funny, NO mention of Hagar. And it f'ing kills the Hagar denial clan.
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COMMENT | Saw that VH1 thing myself
posted by :
4/12/2007 3:34:34 PM
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I saw it too. Yeah they only talked about the original DLR era far as I can remember. Ive said it before but the Hagar stuff just doesnt hold up like the Roth stuff. And I get what youre saying. It is not looked at like the DLR stuff either. I was glad you posted the numbers on alot of those things as well. I never really checked it out until you posted them but it always seemed like there was a dropoff from 1984 to 5150 in terms of the number of people. When 5150 came out it was big but not like 1984. VH owned the world in 84' in terms of rock music. Really before that even. I saw them on D Down & 1984 and both times they sold out in advance of the shows. When they came with Sammy on 5150 in my hometown tickets were still available the night of the show and they didnt sell out. I know its just one city but I would guess there were a number of other cities that were the same thing. Besides all that though they just made history with Dave. They did nothing of the kind with Hagar.
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COMMENT | In Music History Context
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/12/2007 3:37:48 PM
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Classic Van Halen: The combination of the best elements of early Beatles (youthful bliss), The Rolling Stones (sexuality, coolness, confidence and swagger) and Hendrix (jaw-dropping guitar wizardry).
What a musical synthesis!
Van Hagar: Watered-down Journey (w/o Journey's vocal abilities or hook-writing abilities) and mid-paced, sloppy, indistinct, pedestrian, leaden rock (ie. nothing special, memorable or influencial).
What a let down.
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COMMENT | once again
posted by :
4/12/2007 4:20:48 PM
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You have nailed it Expanded C. I'd bet the house a good number of the HDC think Journey "rock". Hilarious.
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COMMENT | Thanks fthegop
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/12/2007 5:56:26 PM
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I'd rather plug in Journey than Van Hagar any day of the week.
Van Hagar didn't have a huge tour in '04.
Classic Van Halen reunited would be a smash.
Enough said.
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COMMENT | Check this out
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/12/2007 6:25:41 PM
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Valerie declares her boyfriend is snipped. And the guy gets all embarrased. What a wuss.
http://www.pr-inside.com/rss/bertinelli-stuns-boyfriend-with-tv-vasectomy-revelation-r88708.htm
Val and Wolfie diet together. Good for them.
http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2007/04/valerie_bertane.html
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COMMENT | In case that was too long
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/12/2007 6:27:37 PM
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http://www.pr-inside.com/rss/bertinelli-stuns-boyfriend-with-tv-
vasectomy-revelation-r88708.htm
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COMMENT | Val B
posted by :
4/12/2007 7:02:12 PM
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I hadn't seen her in years until recently. I was surprised she had put on so much weight. Looked completely different. Oh well I can't feel too sorry for her. I'm sure she cleaned up financially in the divorce.
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COMMENT | Hey numb nuts fthegop!
posted by :
4/14/2007 4:20:52 AM
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Oh you don't have nut's your just numb.
Sorry a@$hole, but David Lee Roth was only the lead singer for 6 years 78-84
Sammy Hagar was the lead singer for 14 years 85-97 then 04-05.
And by the way Van Halen is Eddie and Alex with a singer and a bass player.
So for any of you that dislikes either is not a Van Halen fan.
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COMMENT | Ouch !!!
posted by :
4/14/2007 4:31:54 AM
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That must of hurt.
You go girl glad to have you here!
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COMMENT | For a minute?
posted by :
4/14/2007 3:53:24 PM
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I thought 97 was wrong but the suond track to Twister the movie was still on the charts and Van Halen was still charting with Humans Being and the Greatest Hits Vol. 1 CD.
It's nice to have fresh blood tell mister no it all the facts.
And you know what Sammy was the frontman much longer than any other frontman.
Way to go girlfriend.
Sammy Rocks.
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COMMENT | # of years
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/15/2007 12:36:34 PM
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Jimi Hendrix and Kurt Cobain died before they were 30. They both changed rock and roll forever.
It's not the # of years, it is the impact. The quality of what you create.
Can't you Hagar-lovers get that?
Classic Van Halen 1974-1985. Forever!
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COMMENT | Your a looser and can't except that Sammy was the better of the 3!
posted by : vanhagar
4/15/2007 11:50:37 PM
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You DLR lovers are worse than us Sammy lovers, at least we loved Van Halen with all 3 frontman. But I and others feel Van Halen moved foward and produced and mad much better music with Sammy than with DLR.
kind of like an 1978 Mustangand a 2004 Mustang there the same thing only the newer is better and improved.
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COMMENT | Newer is always better.
posted by : Expanded Consciousness
4/16/2007 7:29:29 AM
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The Beatles were popular with the teenage girls in the 60s.
Justin Timberlake is popular with the teenage girls in the 00s.
Can't you just accept that Justin Timberlake is the superior artist?
Newer, better, and improved.
Geez, dude. What's with ya?
And Dio Sabbath crushed Ozzy Sabbath.
New, cheap, imitation models are always better.
Nothing goes downhill in quality.
Only up, up, up.
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COMMENT | Hey trish
posted by :
4/16/2007 12:15:01 PM
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Let me tell you something you little c**t, I don't care how long Sammy Hagar was the lead singer for Van Hagar. Got that. It means nothing. His tenure was marked by NOTHING more than corporate power ballads. You (like the rest of the HDC) just can't take it because VH's legacy is with Roth. They were bigger and better. When history is written about VH it will be with Roth. The fact that you and other "rocker" chicks think that Van Hagar were better means absolutely nothing. The length of Roth's tenure has no bearing on the history and the numbers you tithead. You know I just realized, I'm trying to explain facts to a woman. Should have known it wouldn't work.
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COMMENT | And as for you Vinny the idiot
posted by :
4/16/2007 12:30:41 PM
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You want some more numbers clueless? Well the greatest hits package that had the 2 new songs with Roth has been certified for 3 MILLION sold. And it's a single disc. The BOBWorld compilation that had the new tracks with Hagar hasn't even sold a million. That's right idiot, not even a million. Although it's certified platinum it's a double disc set and when you release a double disc set you get 2 credits for every "unit" sold. So even though they sold only around 500,000 "units" or "sets" they got credit for 1 million because of the way the RIAA certifies albums. You see loser, there is NO comparison. VHalen made history and continues to. VHagar made corporate power ballads that were big only in the late 1980's. They type of music people make fun of now. They type of music that ultimately killed rock music in this country because it was fake and heartless. That is why classic VH continues to outsell VHagar to this day. That is why classic VH have sold 34 million and VHagar have only sold 18 million. That is why classic rock radio plays a disproportionate amount of Roth led VH. Get it? I didn't think so. Doesn't matter, I'll be around so that everyone else outside of the HDC knows the truth.
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COMMENT | I have no idea what these people
posted by :
4/16/2007 12:43:11 PM
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I have no idea what these jackasses are talkin about half of the time. I never saw fthegop deny that Roth was singer for 6 years. Where that came from I dont know. He did say that Hagar was not current VH and that is true. He is not. He pointed out the official time Hagar was in the band because some tool from the HDC tried to make it seem like Hagar was the current VH. But he never said Roth was in VH longer than he was. He seems to be the one with all the facts and telling the truth. The HDC are the ones that seem to be either flat out lying or stating things that have no bearing on what hes talkin about.
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COMMENT | 0872rk
posted by :
4/16/2007 1:53:44 PM
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They're just pissed. For years Hagar went around telling the media that VH sold more records with him at the helm. When someone comes along with the real numbers and facts it pisses them off. Because they know it's true. They'll continue to whine and bitch but it will not change history or the facts. VH's legacy is with DLR. You pointed out (correctly) that there was no major buzz about the VHagar tour in 04'. Rolling Stone made reference to the fact that the tour lost money. Initial sales for the tour weren't good. There just wasn't a big demand for the power ballad version of VH. What do the HDC do? Blame Eddie. In other words, more denial. I happen to know that they were offered more money to tour with Roth in 03' but it didn't pan out. Then they went out with Hagar for a reduced show guaruntee and still failed to break even in a huge number of markets. But the HDC will spin and say it was Eddie's fault. Completely ignoring the fact that the sales were not good from the get go. Like I said if you just stick to the facts it's easy to expose these frauds for what they are. Just watch, one of them will probably try and debate the RIAA numbers on the greatest hits packages or debate the way the RIAA certifies single discs as opposed to double disc sets. And I'll burn their stupid asses again. Just watch.
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COMMENT | Dude your ignorant !
posted by :
4/16/2007 7:49:22 PM
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Sammy was way more popular than DLR from 1985-1995, but you can't tell by the RIAA listings of today, because nimrod, when Sammy's sold more units than DLR's, which he did, during that time 1995, but a lot of the newer Van Halen fans 85-07 not only bought the newer Van Halen CD's but also bought the older Van Halen CD's pumping up the sales units of the older Van Halen 2 fold, and don't forget the LP's that sold back in 78-84 ,only 6 years after that's 6 years, that was what Sammy was talking about in 1995 after his 10 years and more sales of units accordding to RIAA reports during 1995.
So get your facts straight.
You can't go by todays RIAA unit sales.
And don't forget Greatest Hits Vol. 1 came out right after Sammy was in the band so a lot of the VH fans that worshipped Van Halen with Sammy bought that album. not because of the 2 songs added onto the CD from DLR.
The BOBWorlds CD was hampered by Eddie making a fool out of himself on stage, being drunk and drugged out, and how many Greatest Hits CD's are Van Halen fans going to buy, I have all the songs on CD from the previous albums and all on MP3 on my Ipod and I'm sure everyone else does too.
Those sales of BOBWorlds where to newer fans of Van Halen that don't have all the CD's.
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COMMENT | He He He He Heeeeee!
posted by : vanhagar
4/16/2007 7:56:44 PM
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GOOD ONE!
That was really hitting the nail on the head, if you don't mind I am going to copy that post.
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COMMENT | TIME TO EXPOSE YOUR IGNORANT A** AGAIN GUNNER
posted by :
4/16/2007 8:15:31 PM
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Well first off, Hagar was a member of VH from 85 to 95. So to say "he" was more popular is a joke moron. What WE DO KNOW AND HAVE PROOF OF is that when Hagar released a solo album in 87' it only went gold. IN COMPARISON, Roth's EEASmile and Skyscraper in 88' BOTH WENT PLATINUM. So if Hagar was so huge why did Roth's solo albums at that point OUTSELL Hagar's. Also Van Halen's material with Roth continued to get MASSIVE radio airplay on rock radio even after he left the group. You try and deny that and you'll only prove what a complete fool you are. If soooo many people were clammering for Hagar's hits with VH then why did EDDIE himself say that Hagar was dead set against 2 seperate hits packages for fear that the Roth set would outsell his? The notion that VH gained fans with Hagar is ludicrous. Since Roth left after 1984 (the biggest selling VH album of all time along with the self titled debut) and 5150 only sold about 60% of what 1984 did that little BS theory of yours is toast. VH LOST FANS when 5150 came out. Not gained them. 1984 sold 5 million within 13 months of release (now 10 million). 5150 took nearly 3 years to hit 4 million (now 6 million). They were at their PEAK with Roth and they NEVER returned there with Hagar you fool. Can you not read english? Everything is spelled out at the RIAA site dillhole. And the ONLY reason the greatest hits package in 96' debuted at #1 was because of the 2 new tracks with Roth. Notice how the greatest hits package in 04' with 3 new tracks with Hagar didn't debut as high or sell NEARLY as much. Dude you make yourself look like a fool every time you post. Did your parents have any kids that lived?
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COMMENT | hey van hagar...
posted by :
4/16/2007 8:20:17 PM
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Want to copy my post? Or are you too busy crying after realizing you put your faith in such an ignorant fool.
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COMMENT | they were bigger with DLR
posted by :
4/16/2007 8:44:38 PM
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Even if I had never looked at the numbers I always believed that 1984 was it for VH in terms of popularity. They owned the rock universe at that time. Like I said when they came to my hometown on DDown and 1984 they sold out ahead of time. When they came on 5150 they didnt sell out. It was a good size crowd but tickets were still left at showtime. How anyone can say they were bigger or even the same when Sammy joined is just not facing the truth. 1984 was their pinnacle. Their biggest time. As far as rock goes they were it. Everyone else was below them. Then when Sammy joined they were more like one of the pack. Still big but not over everyone else like the end of the Roth era. The RIAA does prove there was a dropoff in sales. I mean its all there in black and white. And when Sammy released his solo album MTV played it alot but it just wasnt that big. I remember the video well and it just didnt create a big stir even though MTV played it alot. Like I said- you guys that try and act like Sammy made VH bigger just end up looking like jackasses. Its not true and their is evidence to prove it.
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COMMENT | Talk about pains in the ass.
posted by :
4/16/2007 10:02:31 PM
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You guys don't lay off. No wonder no one likes you or DLR.
You just keep talking out of your A S S !!!!
NAG
NAG
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COMMENT | whatever bimbo
posted by :
4/17/2007 12:09:46 PM
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You just don't like it because I bring the truth to light. And that truth is that the DLR led version of VH made history. It was bigger, better and much more influential. And if no one liked DLR he wouldn't have had 3 platinum albums and 1 gold album as a solo artist. And he woulnd't have fronted the VH lineup that has sold 34 million albums in the U.S. alone. You lose.
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COMMENT | "Bad Stuff"
posted by :
3/18/2008 11:51:00 AM
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Does anyone really think that theres any "bad stuff" out there that's not also laying around Ed's studio?
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