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IZZY STRADLIN Jamming With Former GN'R Bandmates: The Photographic Evidence
- Nov. 5, 2002
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A small black-and-white photo of guitarist Izzy Stradlin jamming with his former GUNS N' ROSES bandmates Slash (guitar), Duff McKagan (bass), and Matt Sorum (drums) in their as-yet-unnamed new project has been posted online at this location ation. As previously reported, the group, which has reportedly written more than 40 songs since forming earlier in the year, is still on the lookout for a suitable lead vocalist, having previously auditioned ex- BUCKCHERRY frontman Joshua Todd and current NEUROTICA singer Kelly Shaefer (who was jamming with the group in Los Angeles as recently as last week), among others. Although Izzy is said to be involved in the writing process for the group's upcoming debut album, he will not be touring with the band, who have now officially recruited McKagan's LOADED bandmate Dave Kushner as a session guitarist for all live appearances in support of the CD. (Thanks: www.snakepit.org)
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COMMENT | i am from india
posted by : 11/5/2002 7:15:59 AM
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i am the first to post , yahooooooooo neway i think even people in india including myself think they need seb bach
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COMMENT | This band will kick ass
posted by : blacksam 11/5/2002 7:37:04 AM
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I hope axel tours with Roth. the Maytag washed up fucknuts tour
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COMMENT | Funny...
posted by : Andrew 11/5/2002 7:56:44 AM
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It takes Slash and the rest of the ex-GNR's less than half a year to make an albums worth of music. Axl's been working on his solo album for over 10 years, and he still doesn't have much to show for it.
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COMMENT | The real GNR at work.
posted by : Chinese Communist 11/5/2002 8:09:25 AM
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Fat fuck Axl can go blow himself
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COMMENT | please god keep nu-metal away from singing in this band
posted by : t-bone & no not tommy 11/5/2002 8:22:54 AM
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****bach is a must ****., only guy that could fit perfect , no ego, GREAT FRONTMAN, can kick A$$, and by god he can sing ....if this band picks this neurotica crap guy for a singer/ AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT I WILL HATE IT MORE THAN THE AXL DEAL/new gn'r &(his choice pick of new members) ....SLASH AND DUFF .=IF YOU READ THIS AND IM SURE YOU DONT hehe LEAVE THE NU-METAL /RAP-METAL CRAP ALONE ....AND BEG SEBASTIAN BACH TO FRONT THIS AWESOME PROJECT!!!!!!!! NU-METAL SUX
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COMMENT | Seb Bach-Egomaniac
posted by : 11/5/2002 8:50:12 AM
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I met that prick back in the day and he was a huge asshole in the DLR mold. He sang well and his band was great, but no ego? What the hell are you smokin'?
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COMMENT | What, no real news today?
posted by : WTF 11/5/2002 9:10:29 AM
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Slash must be hurting for attention if his website/fanclub (snakepit.org) had to pass this story about a black & white photo of Izzy to Blabbermouth. Who the fuck really cares? This is the exact same story as last week, but WOW, a little photo! I hope the castoffs do well, but really... Slash's solo work wasn't great, Duff's solo work wasn't great, Izzy's was ok and he's a good songwriter, but I'm not expecting much. Axl took this long due to members changing and him being a perfectionist. Slash is ANYTHING BUT a perfectionist. This project is being rush out to cash in on the fact that Axl & GNR 2.0 are starting to tour. That's the only reason these guys are together - they saw GNR sell out MSG, Fleet Center, Philly, and decided there was money to be made. Much as I like these guys, it's true. And please not Bach, the stage star wannabe.
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COMMENT | Uh...
posted by : Sinned 11/5/2002 10:06:08 AM
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It was really Izzy who wrote most of the GNR songs. So having this core of GNR people means... that we will have a damn good band. And get Sebastian Bach? Are you nuts? Why would they want to deal with another Axl?
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COMMENT | Its too bad...
posted by : matt 11/5/2002 10:49:20 AM
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People Know Kelly Schaefer as the "dumb nu metal dweeb" in Neurotica and not the groundbreaking technical metal guitarist vocalist for Atheist.
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COMMENT | lol
posted by : Chastite 11/5/2002 11:00:43 AM
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Haha its funny to see these people unite after Axl formed his new band, why didn't they do it earlier? my guess is that they dont want Axl to dominate the scene again. Oh to the person who said Bach has no ego, Axl is the most modest man in the history of rock compared to Bach and if you dont know this your ignorant or 15 years old. Oh and the person who said Izzy wrote most GnR songs is wrong, the majority of songs were written by Axl with Izzy behind him, even though Izzy's lyrics are good the true masterpieces like N.Rain or Estranged were written by Axl so get your facts right. I hope both versions of GnR release killer albums but i truly think Axl's Chinese Democracy will be far better due to the quality of the songs already played , i hate Axl's ego but he is the greatest ever frontman period. Axl Rose is the 'Mozart 'of Rock music confirmed by N.Rain , Estranged and that new song Madagascar which seems to me as the best ballad i've heard in the past 10 years.
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COMMENT | Axl Rules
posted by : Dirk 11/5/2002 11:26:19 AM
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Way to go Chastite. Axl is the Gnr core, the new band has proven they can capture the classic gnr sound but still have a new refreshing sound also. I will always have a place in my heart for Izzy, Slash, and Duff, but fuck em. They did not want to do anything before they saw Axl selling out stadiums around the world and the huge buzz he has created. Now all of a sudden they want in on the action, nope, fuck it. Buckethead can play guitar as good as anyone out there, he is a mix between Satriani, Van Halen, Slash, Stevie Ray, Steve Vai, Yangwi Malmsteen, Nuno Bettencourt?, and a little Dimebag and Dave Mustaine too. Buckethead will be the melodic and revolutionary freak on guitar just like Slash was 15 years ago. Slash will grow old and die playing AC/DC and Queen and Zeppelin covers in some LA dive. Fuck em, he had his chance to conform his will and talent to the genius and authority of Axl and he blew it. Slash is the best soloist of all time, not guitarist, but soloist. But he can't write songs and is shit on his own, he should of just kissed Axl's ass and continued writing beautiful solos for whatever Axl demanded. Axl reigns as Guns N Roses.
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COMMENT | Preach on dirk
posted by : AXL RULEZ 11/5/2002 11:28:46 AM
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Totally agree with you, fuck the rest of the band unless they're obeying Axl
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COMMENT | and why don´t.......
posted by : 11/5/2002 11:57:31 AM
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get Duff or even Izzy for sing??¿? for all that oppose.... - "So Fine" - "Attitude" - "New Rose" - "Dust N´ Bones" - "14 Years" . . .. . they´re GREAT SONGS!
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COMMENT | or...
posted by : hujiko 11/5/2002 12:04:46 PM
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well... why they don´t just save Axl from LazyLand and get the whole thing back again?????
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COMMENT | AXL IS AN ASSHOLE
posted by : 11/5/2002 12:29:05 PM
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fuck axl, he is an homophobic gay, fuck him, get a good singer and rock on¡¡
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COMMENT | what?
posted by : too much 4u 11/5/2002 1:30:00 PM
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axl is a "homophobic gay". OK????
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COMMENT | NEW GNR RULEZ
posted by : bucket 11/5/2002 1:38:53 PM
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thos old GNR guys are funny, the hole thing is funny, what the hell are they doing together again, i bet they wached AXL and the new guys on the VMAs and they though, fuck AXL is for real, we better regroup and beet AXL. ha...ha...ha... this is funny as hell, so hwo cares if this guys do anything together, all they'r goin to do is some 80's crap songs becaus nothing new is going to come out of this old farts.
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COMMENT | bucket....
posted by : Andrew 11/5/2002 4:11:28 PM
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LOL!
Yuor speling is greight, cann you teech me to spel sometimee?
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COMMENT | Think Again
posted by : 11/5/2002 11:08:45 PM
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It was the strength of 14 Years and Dust And Bones that had me skipping to buy all of Izzy's solo stuff....All albums put together could not even wipe the ass of either one of the above songs. How about Shooter or that guy from New American Shame as a vocalist. I see that the guy from My Sisters Machine is jamming with ex-queensryche members -- maybe he would be up for it. Hell I can think of 100 singers that could be exiting.
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COMMENT | i dont know...
posted by : khandom 11/5/2002 11:35:17 PM
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you know its like this yall. i think everyone agrees that the old gnr from the early 90s were the best. they gotta get together again man. cause i think theyre all lost without each other man. they just all clicked musically. everyone doin their own shit fuckin sucks man. i dont like much of the chinese democracy songs. and snakepit, and loaded, and all their other side projects aint shit compared to gnr man. dude mabye its a fuckin publicity stunt yall. theyre testin shit now, but in 5 years theyre gonna pull off a reunion tour watch! hah.
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COMMENT | NEW vocalist
posted by : "C.O'Caine" 11/6/2002 12:58:53 AM
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has to be someone the total opposite of axl rose,
a real sweet nice congenial guy with a voice so sweet it rocks without strain,
now who is that guy, the no ego nice fella, go find him
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COMMENT | i know who the singer should be!!!
posted by : kristfur 11/6/2002 1:55:47 AM
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Even though they say that izzy isn't gonna tour, I think Izzy and Duff could pull off the singing duties pretty well. They would do it on gnr records. You've heard "Double Talkin' Jive" "Dust n' Bones" and "14 years", those are great songs, and you don't really miss axl in them too much. And, on the spagetti incident, Duff did a good job singing a buncha punk toons. I'd go to the "Slash, Duff, Izzy, Matt" band gig any day. Just to see them all on stage together would bring a tear to my eye.
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COMMENT | khandom still dreamin
posted by : kristfur 11/6/2002 2:09:55 AM
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khandom you're in the denial stage of realizing that the old gnr is not going to get together with axl. Think all us Gnr fans wish it would happen, but it's not EVER GONNA HAPPEN. Those guys hate each other way too much. It's sorta like the Roger Waters - Pink Floyd thing, in fact this is alot like it.
And, uh, you don't like the Chinese Democracy songs? Do you have a copy of the CD??? I'd like to hear it. Why don't you judge it when you hear it first, then i'll listen to your criticism.
I'm just tired of people writing them off before they've been given a chance to show everyone what they can do. Go buy Chinese Democracy, if you hate it, I'll buy it from you.
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COMMENT | I just don't know about this!!
posted by : crystal 11/6/2002 3:32:17 AM
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you know what I love Slash and Duff and Matt and Izzy and it's great to see them doing shit together again...but as someone stated earlier, why now? I think they defenitely saw the chance of Axl coming back to bring some attention to them since its almost basically the original line up.And uhhh I'm sorry but if they already have forty songs I wonder if they actually took the time to make sure that it was some actual good shit and not stuff just thrown together cuz forty is a little high for them just getting together. I just don't know about this, it's all the guys back together again and I just don't know if I can see them again without Axl!Theres plenty of talented singers that could do it yes of course. but it's Slash and Duff and Matt and Izzy again not just two of them together again or something.It's just going to be really weird to have everyone but Axl up there basically.But, l honestly hope they make me put my foot in my mouth because that would defenitely kick all ass to have them jammin together again and rock the fuckin place!!!!!!Only time will tell.
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COMMENT | hey i'm up for anything that fucks up axl's shit bigtime
posted by : nin 11/6/2002 5:56:29 AM
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why don't they ask ian astbury of the cult to be the singer? i know astbury is a now an unofficial member of the doors so they'll definitely have to wait. how about a singer by committee then? billy idol, ian astbury, and anyone else that is into it.
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COMMENT | There's a little shit called dirk
posted by : Rock N' Roll is still alive 11/6/2002 7:29:26 AM
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You're little stupid mother fucker. Your comment is nothing more than shit. "Ain't life grand" is one of the best rock n' albums of the last 10 years. Slash rules!!! I heard some new songs of axl's solo project. I like axl's voice, but the quitarwork is nothing more than shit. Everyone who is a good guitar player can cover song, but writing and playing own solos is an other part. Slash is one of the greatest rock n' roll lead-guitar-player of the world. And AXL-RULEZ!!! Please don't compare Buckethead with Satriani, Vai and Van Halen because I like them. Slash, Duff, Izzy n' Matt - please keep on rockin' because rock n' roll only survive with you and not with the new GN'R-line-up
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COMMENT | Axl Rose Rocks!!!
posted by : 11/6/2002 8:24:36 AM
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It´s cool that these guys have started a band together but the Slash-Duff-Matt-Izzy band will never be and sound as great as Axl´s new band! Axl is so easy the best singer & frontman through all time!!! YEAH!!! So if you don´t like the new Guns N Roses...yu can fuck off because Í don´t think you guys have heard the new songs!!!
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COMMENT | SLASH KICKS ASS !!!
posted by : 11/6/2002 9:59:31 AM
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i can`t read the shit some people are writing. surely SLASH can write songs. proved with his 2 solo projects. AXL can`t sing anymore ( VMA`s ). buckethead is just a good guitarist as there millions. to cover the old GN`R songs is for many guitarists not the problem but to write such songs is not that easy. Ain`t Life Grand sounds like a hard GN`R record. i agree that AXL was is the best frontman on earth but fuck the other freaks in his project. i bet his new songs except for shit lije Chinese Democracy would be ten times better if Slash was playing the guitar. the old GN`R worked as a GROUP and they complemented one another. and damn I dont understand how fans of the old GN`R stuff ( means all U out there who think AXL is right ) can`t blame AXL for the broken up. HE WANTS TO DO DIFFERENT MUSIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o.k. I`ve not listened to many new stuff but what I`ve listened to is enough. NO TYPICAL GNR STUFF !!!! I just remarked that " ROCK N `ROLL IS STILL ALIVE " is in my opinion. U got it man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KICK ASS
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COMMENT | IF BACH JOINS THEY'LL BE PLAYING GNR & SKIDROW STUFF HOW KOOL
posted by : William Bailey 11/6/2002 1:00:02 PM
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This will be awesome and Axl will jeolous
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COMMENT | RIGHT THEN. THIS ANYONE HERE SANE?
posted by : 11/6/2002 3:47:59 PM
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Neurotica? Weren't they the band that the WWE signed to SmackDown records and then dumped in favour of Fozzy and Jeff Hardy! I mean, come on, this band is going to kick ass. What should happen now is that they get a good session guitarist, someone like Zakk Wlyde or Brian May and make the band world famous and then Axl would be forced to compete with these famous names and he would get off his fat ass, fire that muppet with a bucket on his head and start writing good songs. And Axl, it does really matter!!!!!
AND COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHEN GUNS N ROSES COVERED THE ROLLING STONES "WILD HORSES" BECAUSE I DONT KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN TO LOOK FOR THAT.
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COMMENT | hold on a min
posted by : 11/6/2002 4:21:16 PM
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this project sounds great. i would love to see this band, i personally think ian astbury is a very good call, as he and matt go back along way. but the new line up of gnr is just as good. i saw them in london and they kicked ass, my brother said they were just as good as they were in 92. the crowd aslo had a very good vibe. there new songs were v.good aswell. and for the record, even though on welcome... on the vma's it did semm it, his voice is not going. it sounded great.
i would like them to reform with axl but i cant c it happening. so lets make the best of what weve got. 2 (hopefully) kick ars* bands!
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COMMENT | ASSHOOOOOHHHHHHHLLLEEEES
posted by : boaby 11/6/2002 4:25:01 PM
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Axl can still sing. Or at least at London in august 2002 he could.
He said the new songs they played were just album tracks i.e not singles and not the best (they played Mada.... chink demo & Blues)
They KICK ASS
Slash'n'co will not be AS good (i.e still good) - coz they don't have the song writing talent of Axl - unless they get a singer who can give them the skeleton on which to build great tunes, nuff said.
Anyone who thinks either will b as good as original is a cancerous, saggy, cheese encrusted bawbag!
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COMMENT | Axl needs to stop being a bitch
posted by : 11/6/2002 4:26:58 PM
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I dont mind Axl forming a new band, whatever, but calling themeselves Guns N' Roses is just bullshit. Get a "new" fucking name if your going to form a "new" band. Im sorry but unless Axl and the rest of the original band gets back to gether they will never captured anything close to what they once had. Also, Id much rather see the original band minus Axl than Axl and a bunch of new fucks.
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COMMENT | TRAVIS IS A FANNY
posted by : boaby 11/6/2002 4:29:23 PM
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Guns has always been and always will be Axl's band. Why else do u think he's allowed to lob folk!!!????
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COMMENT | totally agree
posted by : sotomayorhaussen 11/6/2002 4:31:10 PM
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it´s absolutly obvious that bach is the ONLY singer that could ever replace axl , both have a kick ass voice , and if anyone of you azholes who think that axl sux, you don´t have a f#!!ing clue about music and can go back listening to that pathetic music you listen to cause axl is one of the best singers that has ever been...
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COMMENT | go ego
posted by : sotomayorhaussen 11/6/2002 4:43:25 PM
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what if bach has a big f#!!ing ego, thats what makes a great rock star, and with that voice who wouldn´t ???
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COMMENT | Your an idiot boaby
posted by : 11/6/2002 4:43:30 PM
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Im just sitting here, thought id refresh the page and "Travis is a fanny" comes up, haha. You sir are a moron. I never once said that I didnt like Axl. Axl has a great voice and his lyrics are awesome. However, I am more of a music fan than a vocal/lyrics fan. Meaning, if a song has mediocre vocals but great music I am happy, but if the vocals/lyrics are great but music is crappy then it just ruins the whole thing. Oh, about being Axls band, if all that great music wasnt behind his vocals then I dont think they would have got very far. Apart the band "can be" decent, but together they are great.
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COMMENT | me
posted by : lucifer 11/6/2002 4:48:26 PM
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I SHOULD BE THE SINGER , I FUCKING ROCK!!!! .....call me at my cell ...666
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COMMENT | TRAVIS U R A FANNY WITH CRABS AS LODGERS
posted by : boaby 11/6/2002 4:51:21 PM
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I agree that they were better together than ever will b apart but you missread my comment. You mentioned that axl should re-name the band and I said it has always been his band and so he can hire and fire who he wants.
Axl wrote the best songs, duff izzy wrote riffs, solos etc, Axl gave them structure, a direction, without melody and lyrics and structure music loses meaning. the music without the words would be nowhere near as good
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COMMENT | Fine, call me a fanny
posted by : 11/6/2002 5:03:25 PM
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It doesnt matter if its always been Axls band, Guns N' Roses will always be Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and matt. They all made GnR, they gave it life. So, yes, Axl should change the name because it is *not* GnR.
Axl did write great songs, no denying that. But the rest of the group added the great music to go along with it. And I enjoy very much music without words. I would like AFD with music only :) But like I said, its only great when they all come together.
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COMMENT | TRAVIS URE A BAWBAG
posted by : BOABY 11/6/2002 5:08:07 PM
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AXL FORMED GNR. HE HIRED SLASH ETC 2 B IN GNR; THEN HE FIRED THEM. IT'S STILL GNR!!!! THERE WOULD AV BEEN NO GNR WITHOUT AXL. IT'S HIS BABY AND HE CAN RAISE IT HOW HE WANTS
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COMMENT | Agree to disagree?
posted by : 11/6/2002 5:15:29 PM
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I should have put Steven in there to, oops. But anyway, we both seem to think differently about this so how bout we just agree to disagree eh? That way we can both be right :)
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COMMENT | COCK SMOKIN NATIVE AMERICAN
posted by : boaby 11/6/2002 5:38:43 PM
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Anyone who woz born in America is an Native American u bawbag!!!!! It's just a fuckin song!!!!! Who gives a shit about yer hair ya girl "oohh, my hair is soooooh much longer than axl's" I bet your sittin with one wrist limp and the other jackin the nearest cock off (or friggin yourself off) you non-immigrant turd-tickler
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COMMENT | OH YES
posted by : 11/6/2002 5:54:52 PM
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This is just good clean family entertainment !!!
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COMMENT | doubletalkinjive
posted by : mike 11/6/2002 6:35:48 PM
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First of all no one cares about what the crazy indians have to say. Second of all this new project group is looking for a singer but can't find any good ones. That's because Axl is the only one that qualifies.
No one should be talking about GNR unless they know anything about them. Axl Rose wrote most of their songs and they all rocked. OF the songs that Axl didn't sing how can anyone say he wasn't missed? Izzy was the one that would never tour and people still pay to see them because of Axl n' Slash.
IT would truly be a great day in rocknroll history if the real GNR got back together. AND all the pieces seem to be slowly falling into place.
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COMMENT | Third Time's a charm !!!!
posted by : Native American 11/6/2002 8:57:48 PM
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Now that i've posted it three times, show some respect !!!!
White Ignorant Motherfuckers !!! If you wanna be alive in MY country, let me fuck your bitch, or i will personally escort you out !!!
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COMMENT | What, no real news today!?
posted by : 11/7/2002 5:43:00 AM
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Have you ever listened to Snakepit, it's f*'"n- great! Both '95 and 2000! Duff rules(Believe in me '93), and the only thing your right on is Izzy, yes he is a good songwriter!! The project is the greatest news in nine years!
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COMMENT | Both Snakepit sucked !!!!
posted by : Axl Supporter !!!!! 11/7/2002 5:55:10 AM
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Snakepit ??? great ????? fuck off !!!! Both versions of snakepit sucked, but at least the '95 one was half decent.... 2000 one was horrible !!!!!! You actually like the singer Rod "I'm a Milli Vanilli wannabe" Jackson ???
You are a loser, and you're also a loser if you like this new project of theirs !!!! And why do they consider Matt "the Loser" Sorum as the gnr drummer...... Steven Adler was g n'r... yeah he had his drug problem, but who in here doesnt...
Duff had a drinkin' and drug problem... he stopped temporarily beforeUYI 1 and 2, but restarted after that, and nearly died from a blown up pancreas...... Duff is more of a loser than Steve....
Duff Rules ???? Believe in Me sucked !!!! And his new band "Loaded" sucked too !!!! Slash and Izzy had talent, but they did the wrong thing of walkin' out of G N' R...... their side projects suck !!!!
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COMMENT | GET IN THE RING MOTHERFUCKERS
posted by : 11/7/2002 11:36:34 AM
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AXL IT´S PROBABLY LAUGHIN´AT THEM AT THE MOMENT. DOUBLE TALKIN´JIVE MOTHERFUCKERS JOIN AXL OR JOIN YOUR MUM
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COMMENT | Best wishes to Izzy, Slash, Duff, and Matt
posted by : Tim 11/7/2002 12:16:18 PM
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Slash, Duff, and Izzy are all really talented, probably the greatest hard rock musicians of the last 20 years, but they did not evolve with rock. Axl has no genre or limitation. He is hard rock not by being like the 80's or recreating Appetite style stuff over and over again like Duff Slash and Izzy will do. I really think SDIM stuff will be very 80's/70's blues driven which without Axl will sound cliche and boring. They just want to stay loyal to hard rock and not enter the next level with Axl. Axl is writing music that is hard but melodic, it doesn't belong in any category, it transcends muscially genre. Kind of like Pink FLoyd, Stones. Jethro Tull, Sabbath, etc all the great bands. Who knows maybe Axl could start his own movement in rock. A movement back towards passionate vocals withe real range and the inclusion of complicated compositions instead of just "heavy raw and honest" guitar, bass, and drum garage rock. The stripped down "lets just jam" attitude in rock is out played itself and is boring. The rock world needs a refreshing change back to large scale masterpiece compostitions. My best wishes to Matt, Duff, Slash and Izzy. I personally think that they should all follow the vision and talent of Izzy and write some "country honky tonk jivin" material. Izzy always had a good ear for that bluesy swingin honky tonk sound, it was one of the best parts of the old Gnr. Long live Axl, Dirk is right, "Axl reigns as Gnr."
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COMMENT | Come on Boys, your nothing without Axl
posted by : Dexter 11/7/2002 12:35:54 PM
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I bet Izzy, SLash and Duff are jealous and just want to fuck up Axl's new Gnr. I bet they don't give a shit about their gnr legacy or cutting edge rock anymore so they want to contaminate the gnr name. I bet they dress up in leapard spandex and put on make up and hairspay their hair real big and puffy just to embarrass Axl and the gnr name. If they can't be with Axl and have the new fame then no one can. They want to connect Gnr to "80's cheeze spandex hairspray cock rock" which of course they never were, but many people might not remember clearly and when they see the Slash and Izzy project purposely embarrassing themselves to destroy Axl and the gnr legacy people will assume that gnr are a clueless washed up 80's band. Fuck Slash, Izzy, and Duff. They want to destroy Axl because they realize they fucked up by leaving the greatest hard rock frontman and singer of all time. They fucked up and they know it. They are sellouts who are doing the project to jump on Axl's gnr buzz. Where were they when Axl was writing shit for 9 years and all the hard work he put into a world tour. He is the brains and the worker behind the gnr legacy, sure Izzy wrote some of their best songs but Axl helped. It was always Axl's rappy jivin raspy vocals that brought all their songs to the legendary rock stratosphere. They are the sellouts. They need money. If Axl needed money he would of put out some new album years ago. He is a real genius who is ready to show the world his music. Slash is the best soloist I have ever heard and to write the melodic masterpieces he did I will always be greatful, but he just writes straight forward rock songs which nobody gives a fuck about anymore. Its all been done. You can keep making the same shit over and over again "in the name of staying loyal to hard rock" or you can be a real rock musician like Axl Rose. Gnr Rule and I have got my ticket to tonights show in Vancouver long live Buckethead! Sorry Slash unless you beg for Axl's forgiveness your legacy as the greatest guitarist ever is in dire straits. You NEED Axl buddy, come on admit it to yourself. Axl is Lord and you must submit. Izzy is a prophet but not God himself, so go follow the false prophet and condemn yourself to rock n roll "where are they now" land. cowboy boots, blues scales, and leather are linked with "Clueless old people who wanna rock." If Izzy, Slash and Duff don't try theri hardest to get back with Axl, they risk becoming like Sammy Hagar instead of mysterious "larger than life" unapproachable rock legends like Ozzy and Robert Plant.
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COMMENT | So many retards, so little time
posted by : 11/7/2002 1:12:08 PM
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Its funny that you guys seem to think this new GnR is going to go somewhere. Yes, they are playing to sold out shows, but they are also playing lots of old GnR songs (Which is whats keeping the attention of the people). When (or IF) this Chinese Democracy album ever comes out it will either:
A - Not sell worth a shit B - Sell good, but after hearing the new GnR and realizing it isnt the old GnR people will stray away.
Its also pathetic how you are all on Axl's nuts. I mean shit, any true fan of any band would know that one person doesnt make up the fucking band.
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COMMENT | Fuck Tavz, I bet he likes death metal or grunge or nu metal
posted by : Jimmy 11/7/2002 1:37:23 PM
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Guns N Roses.
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COMMENT | haha, how did you get that from anything I wrote?
posted by : 11/7/2002 1:55:06 PM
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Your a moron
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COMMENT | fuck you travis#!#!!
posted by : BRAIN 11/7/2002 3:00:11 PM
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FUCK OFF TRAVIS....YOU FUCKING PUSSY.....AXL FORMED GNR WITH AXL IN THE BAND IT WILL ALWAYS BE GNR....OK I AGREE THAT SALAH IS A LEGENDE IN GNR BUT GNR WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE WHEN AXL PART OF IT...SO FUCK YOU....YOU DON'T NOW SHITA ABOUT MUSICA...BITCH...
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COMMENT | Calm down there psycho
posted by : 11/7/2002 3:09:54 PM
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Well, judging from the way you write its obviouse your a complete idiot. When you learn to construct a sentence you can speak to me. Until then, quiet down.
BTW - Because our opinions differ I dont know anything about music? Riiiiiiiight.
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COMMENT | Tavz, you need to back the fuck off from loyal gnr fans
posted by : Corporate Rock Rules 11/7/2002 4:23:12 PM
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I bet you are one of those really smart guys in rock. Something like the guys in Tool. You make a joke of everything and love to demystify and deconstruct "large rock bands." I bet you listen to "smart" rock and put down flashy solos and frontmen. Just think, long after we are both dead, fans around the globe will be listening to Axl's whiny screechy voice and loving it while you rot under six feet of worms, maggots, and dust. Yea, you are just jealous because you think Axl is a spoiled egomaniac whiny corporate "rock star" with a horrible screeeeeeeeeechy voice and he is famous and loved and you are a mediocre common man who can't accept his commonality and simpleness. I have. That is why I look to large fun party jock frat rock, let's get drunk and laid rock that makes me look up to them as larger than life icons that lift my mind up to greatness. You need to get off your high horse and accept big corporate riff machine American bad ass rock bands. You need to go drink a Bud and go watch a real rock concert in an open air stadium with stacks of amps. Corporate rock rules. Raw and honest Underground and alternative music's entire existence is dependent on and presupposes the existence of a Guns N Roses. I bet you like Incubus and Staind and Metallica you fuck. I hope Axl's screechy voice fills your dreams tonight you worthless fuck.
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COMMENT | Boaby-shut yer puss
posted by : Drewsyboy 11/7/2002 4:30:42 PM
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You're givin weegies a bad name!
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COMMENT | Bach's the Man!
posted by : Drewsyboy 11/7/2002 4:48:43 PM
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If they're serious about getting back where they (Slash/Izzy/Duff) belong-then Seb Bach is the man for the job!-He's got the voice!,he's got the ego!,He's got the fucking hair!!!
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COMMENT | You couldnt be further from the truth
posted by : 11/7/2002 4:51:23 PM
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You are kind of all over the place so i will respond one sentence at a time.
No, im not one of those really smart rock guys.
I hate Tool.
Once in awhile I do pick things apart (your responce for example). If you are referring to me picking apart GnR thats only cause retards are sucking Axl's nuts and seem to think he created any and everything pertaining to the GnR albums.
I laughed at this sentence. I love solos, they are fucking great. Flashy frontmen are cool, but the ones that piss me off are the ones whos egos go through the fucking roof once they make it big (David Lee Roth for example)
Sentence was retarded, no comment.
I dont think Axl is an egomaniac, I think hes just an asshole, that doesnt mean I dotn like him though. One of my friends is a complete asshole but hes still cool. Axls voice is great, one of the best in rock history
The rest of what you wrote is just retarded, most of it I dont even understand or know where you came up with the shit. 90% of new bands suck, I prett much only listen to older bands. My favorite bands are GnR and Alice In Chains. I seriously dont know where the fuck you guys are coming up with the shit your saying.
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COMMENT | Stop Fighting
posted by : Sérgio F. 11/7/2002 5:10:59 PM
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We want Guns n' Roses back, not Axl in one side and the rest in the other, we want Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Matt on the same side to fight against the crappy and shitty music that some "musicians"are making today, G n' R Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz forever
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COMMENT | Fuck all this bullshit
posted by : 11/7/2002 5:11:27 PM
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i am pissed that gnr changed their dallas date to a fuckin thursday...no i can't go!
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COMMENT | fuck BACH
posted by : 11/7/2002 5:14:35 PM
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that urchin blows...they need an unknown with good pipes..or maybe someone like jonathon davis of korn.
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COMMENT | korn rulzzzzzzzz
posted by : 11/7/2002 5:17:01 PM
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korn can kick gnrs ass any day, kid. mess with the best, die like the rest, kid.
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COMMENT | WHO THE FUCK SAID I WIZ WEEGIE
posted by : BOABY 11/7/2002 5:32:11 PM
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Drewsyboy, u r a cock!!!!
Ah'm fae Aberdeen, ye' ken 'at place far a'bidy gies it tae sheep up the airse an' drives tractors, gets fannied on moonshine etc etc. U ned scum fae the smog doon south can aw get tae fuck.
GNR RULE.
Native American: u give it up the a-hole to various small domestic animals an' then suck out ure sex-wee with a straw..... mmm yum,yum. u no it's true you 75th generation immigrant. We all came from africa in the first place so ure an immigrant too
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COMMENT | Boaby!-Aberdeen-eh?
posted by : Drewsybhoy 11/7/2002 5:48:08 PM
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7-0!-ya sheep-shaggin fucker!
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COMMENT | Boaby
posted by : Drewsybhoy 11/7/2002 5:55:52 PM
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How's the weather up there?
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COMMENT | Moonshine!-mair like yer ain piss!
posted by : Drewsybhoy 11/7/2002 5:59:26 PM
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COMMENT | Boaby
posted by : Drewsybhoy 11/7/2002 6:11:03 PM
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Sheer poetry boaby bhoy! U got your wellie's on?
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COMMENT | Boaby-u know thats slang fer DICK!
posted by : Larssons left bollock 11/7/2002 6:17:02 PM
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mair relevant than slaggin off the fuckin injuns
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COMMENT | U GOT YER GUTTIES AN' SHELLSUIT ON?
posted by : BOABY 11/7/2002 6:17:50 PM
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swiggin back diamond white? just on yer way oot tae hang aboot the chippy an' try an break the record fer how many 13yr olds ye can get preggers in one night? fit aboot yer baseball cap an yer pack o' mayfairs that ye begged sumone al' enuff tae buy fae the corner shoppy fer ye
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COMMENT | Boaby-Bhoy
posted by : Drewsybhoy 11/7/2002 6:19:43 PM
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But seriously-whit's yer thoughts -Axl/Slash etc?
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COMMENT | GNR KICK ARSE
posted by : Boaby 11/7/2002 6:24:14 PM
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guns will always kick ass!!
Axl was the driving force, the backbone, the ebbe skovdahl of guns.
He set up one group of greats an' he's dun it again.
I saw them at docklands in august an' they proper rocked. New stuff rocks, cant wait for album.
Slash, duff etc will do alright but the music will be nowhere near as good.
Folk talkin about the songs that izzy wrote an axl didn't sing on, but they weren't as good as axl's songs
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COMMENT | Sheep-Shagger!
posted by : Larssons right bollock 11/7/2002 6:29:22 PM
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learn tae spell ya sheep-shaggin fuckwit!
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COMMENT | Tav is wrong,bach,davis
posted by : mike 11/7/2002 6:30:26 PM
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TAV you're pretty much wrong about everything you say concerning the new GnR album. YOU'RE too head strong about today's bad music to realize that Axl is an artist and is way better than you even realize.
THIS new project group is looking for a real rock singer. AND bach and jonathan davis just don't fit the description.
DTJMF
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COMMENT | Boaby-Bhoy
posted by : Drewsyboy 11/7/2002 6:33:49 PM
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fair-comment-up until the bit about Ebbe-must be good stuff that moonshine-heard a few tunes from Rock in Rio-not bad -more aggressive-still think Izzy was the tunesmith
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COMMENT | ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by : boaby 11/7/2002 6:34:18 PM
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is that the bollock ure suckin on at the moment you glory-huntin ned piece o' shit. r u gonna say anythin about the kings of rock or just fuck off an's fondle yoursel' while thinkin o' yer overrated queen o' a "striker"
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COMMENT | drewsey"bhoy"
posted by : boaby 11/7/2002 6:38:27 PM
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can u spik tae that eejit fa's suckin larsson's right luv-bucket, there's sumthin no right in his head!!!!
Onywi', Izzy's shit hot, nae doubt, but the songs winnae hae the structure and style applied by Axl tae mak' em onywi' near as gid as orig guns.
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COMMENT | Spik?-eh?
posted by : Drewsyboy 11/7/2002 6:54:47 PM
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whits the matter wae your keyboard?-original songs?-Estranged is i think pound fer pound the mutt's nut's-but anything Izzy had a hand in kicked-ass
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COMMENT | Haw Boaby -Is it past your bedtime?
posted by : Drewsybhoy 11/7/2002 7:14:36 PM
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I've been tae Eberdeen-they didnae spik lak yon!
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COMMENT | Boaby Whit
posted by : 11/7/2002 7:15:06 PM
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Whit the f@*k are u talkin about
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COMMENT | We Will See
posted by : 11/7/2002 10:40:38 PM
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Frankly I could give a shit about the new GnR album. If its good its good, if its not its not. But I have heard some of the new songs and they suck cock (kinda like you mike).
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COMMENT | To Tavz from Corporate Rock Rules
posted by : Corporate Rock Rules 11/8/2002 1:27:49 PM
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I apologize Tavz for my angry comments. I was having a bad day. I see that you are an "orthodox" gnr fan. I have accepted the new gnr and I respect your opinion if you don't feel gnr can exist without Slash, Duff, and Izzy. They truly are great, but I have to stick with Axl's amazing and soulful vocals. It was his vocals and lyrics that touched my heart and lit my fuse of teenage angst and rage. He truly is one of rock's greatest frontmen and singers. I have to admit it would be great if the old band were back together, but I have given that hope up and moved on. It took my a long time to accept Axl's new band and now that I have finally come to not only accept but appreciate the talent of the new band I must follow Axl's vision. You sound like a calm and rational rock critic and I respect that. You don't cuss a lot, but you do call a lot of people idiot and retard. Oh well, gnr rule. Korn and Staind suck. David Lee Roth was fun to watch but was an arrogant asshole, but you have to admit he sang some of the greatest party anthems of all time. Eddie rules.
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COMMENT | To Corporate Rock Rules from Tavz
posted by : 11/8/2002 3:22:28 PM
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It takes a big man to apologize, I accept and am also sorry. I guess I should probably except that the original band will most likely not get back together. You said that it was Axls voice and lyrics that got you the most out of GnR. For me it was the guitars and catchy riffs, thats prolly why I stick with the rest of the band. Though, I will say it again, I do love Axls voice and lyrics, they are great.
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COMMENT | They should get Bach
posted by : chilix 11/8/2002 7:29:07 PM
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Sebastian Bach, former frontman of Skid Row, would work. I think he learned a lesson with Skid Row, not to take all the credit or you'll get kicked out of a great band. We know he has talent and if he could get along with matt, slash and duff, things would work out. Maybe Bach's style is too heavy. I think Axl is going to have a run for his money if this band works out w/ or w/out Bach. It should rock.
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COMMENT | AWWWW, WELL I'M SORRY TOO GUYS
posted by : mike 11/9/2002 1:24:02 AM
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I wasn't going to answer you but it just got to be too much. THE new songs won't suck and this will be the last time i tell you because i'm tired of explaining the truth to you over and over. I thought i could take you seriously Tavs but you successfully proved that you don't know as much about music as you would have everyone believe. AND you proved this by saying you don't give a shit about the new GNR album and buying into what everyone else does on this page by saying i suck cock.
DTJMF
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COMMENT | fuck no
posted by : 11/9/2002 9:18:02 AM
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Korn can kick gnr's ass? fuck no you bitch!! korn suck ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | NEw GNR SUCK more Than my dick !
posted by : 11/9/2002 9:26:08 AM
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Fuck that Bitch Axl i dont know why he has become a real son of a bitch , you think new guns be successful come on i dont wanna pesimistic but fat axl can do nothiung with his stiupid new band and all thos stiupid muthafuckers like buckethead and those shits ! he cant even release an album for 10 years but slash and others wrote 40 songs ! go axl and kiss the new gnr and say goodbye to it ! dont be such an asshole
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COMMENT | To Mike
posted by : 11/9/2002 11:32:47 AM
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I never claimed to know a lot about music, I only know about music I like. Im not buying into anything, I heard some of the news GnR songs and I dont like them, simple as that. Assuming these songs will be on the new album I can say that yes, if the rest are like this then I could give a shit about the new album. But maybe a few songs will stand out that I like and maybe it will be better than I expect, have to wait and see.
BTW, I wouldnt have said you suck cock if maybe you didnt come off as an asshole towards me.
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COMMENT | this new group will be like the beatles
posted by : THE BEATLES 11/11/2002 8:16:30 PM
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i think this group matt duff izzy and slash will be the best band ever since the beatles i cant fucking wait till they realese there albums they have written over 40 songs alredy what has axl rose done oh he has been writen song for the last 10 years without relesing an album ! all this new group got too do is find a deacent singer then they will take over the worlds and axl rose will be crying and probably kill himslef hahah
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COMMENT | SLASH'S SNAKEPIT
posted by : SUCK MY DICK SLASH PLZ 11/11/2002 8:21:35 PM
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has anyone herd the album aint life grand by slashs snakepit that ablum is fucking tight bro... best album ever
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COMMENT | Idiots!
posted by : andy 11/15/2002 5:54:20 PM
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Firstly Korn are shit and they dont deserve to be discussed on this page, secondly i think that Axls band is going to sound alot different to SIMD's band cos Axl wanted to do new things with GNR whereas SIMD where happy with what they where already doing and didnt want to change there style, but both bands are gonna kick ass so it doesnt really matter what has happened just as long as we dont have to put up with this nu-metal shit for any longer cos that really sucks and the music industry has been calling out for the return of GNR cos there hasnt been a band anywhere near as good since.
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COMMENT | Let's be honest. . .
posted by : Tim 11/20/2002 11:27:54 PM
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first off, slash's solo stuff was mediocre at best. izzy's solo stuff is decent, but he's lost his edge, he won't even tour!!! axl is a maniac i admit, but at least he wanted to grow as an artist, and not make new versions of music the band had already done. the ex-gunners were lazy, looking for quick cash. axl will come out with some good music that won't appeal to all beause most people dont understand real music anymore. who wrote estranged and coma?= Axl!!! while i understand the ex-gunners trying to cash in, it's not sincere, and should not be taken as much more than a bunch of guys with nothing better to do. even slash himself would like axl back!!! without axl, gnr would not have been anything. . . but axl very easily could have been something in another band. it's just too bad that the old crew won't get back together. . . butt that's what being lazy will get you exers. now cash in while you can!!!
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