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DAVE MUSTAINE Responds To Article Challenging His 'United Abominations' Lyrics
- July 11, 2007
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MEGADETH mainman Dave Mustaine has issued a response to an UN Dispatch article by Mark Leon Goldberg in which Goldberg dissects and challenges the information presented in the lyrics to the MEGADETH song "United Abominations". Says Mustaine: "Whether my facts are right or wrong, and whether you agree with me or not, I know I have your support — most of the time and that is all that matters. "I would rather feel right and be wrong with the semantics or facts in the song and have expressed my right to free speech, than to feel wrong and be right and sit back, like the rest of the cowards of the world, not saying anything. "I think it is a simple statement, made by a man who loves God, his country, and his family. If that is a problem, then tough! "I do have to say that the writer is very good with his words and most of his points are what I based my lyrics on. And while I thank him for the eloquent way he partially described what I was trying to say with as little bias as possible (which he didn't do 'unbiased' very well), needless to say, we won't be having tea. Ironically, he agress with me more than he lets on, just read it again. In fact, he knows he agrees with a lot of it, because his [sic]. "And as far as my source for the information, it was the very people he allegedly works for — the media — and the place where he voiced his refutation — the Internet — where this public information lies. And we all know that everything you read on the Internet is troo! "I am glad someone took the worm. Now let's see if anything more than attacking my beliefs or getting personal comes out of this. The first guy from the UN that came after me (yep, this isn’t the first time I have been verbally assaulted about this song) made sure to say that he was a bigger fan of my previous band than Megs too, as if that gives him any credibility with metal fans, and again personally attacking me. "Whatev! Ah, what would the SEX PISTOLS have done? "It just makes me more convicted to sing my songs, and in a weird way, I have so much more respect for the protest singers when I grew up that spoke out against the war and the government. It is risky because people live to spin what a person says — i.e. spin doctors (their whole job is to turn something someone says into something else) — and the establishment has been successful at keeping the masses fooled for way too long. "An example of spin would be 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman' — or something similar by our ex-president Bill Clinton. And these professionals can also make anyone look foolish or at the least, break them down and silence them, while trying to discredit them. It always gets personal when they run out of ammo. I mean, who hasn't said 'yer mama' at the end of an argument? "One question would be, who is the writer that is complaining? Is he a real writer or some blogger? Does he do news, journalism, or tabloid reporting? Does he represent the UN or the American people or is he just an American like me, and is just venting? And why is he so intent on going after me? Why not use that energy constructively? He is obviously educated well (or has a thesaurus). "Anyway, I would rather be wrong about the lyrics of 'UA' (which is just a song in the end) and have this guy try to explain why I shouldn't have your love and support, then be right and have no one notice. And it makes me wonder, if I was wrong, why bother with me? I am just a dumb metal guitar player, right? "Bottom line is I am stoked to see you all having this discussion about things that matter to us all. What a victory!!! "We win!!! "We win!!! "We win!!! "I dig it when the Droogs get to have discussions like this because we all win; we all learn something. "In closing, I love you guys and don't let this deter you from what really matters. As I have said before, 'its still 'we the people', right?'"
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COMMENT | Hmm.
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:18:01 PM
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Fair enough.
At least Dave didn't completely attack him either.
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posted by : H5N1
7/11/2007 3:20:29 PM
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Get 'em, Dave !
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COMMENT |
posted by : madeinquebec
7/11/2007 3:22:05 PM
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I don't care, Megadeth rulez. Looking forward to that fucking RRR re-release with bonus material and extra tracks for this CD. BTW, can I get a Dean flying V free, please? I wanna try one (and keep it)
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COMMENT |
posted by : Storm King
7/11/2007 3:24:14 PM
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""I would rather feel right and be wrong with the semantics or facts in the song and have expressed my right to free speech, than to feel wrong and be right and sit back, like the rest of the cowards of the world, not saying anything."
Yeah, because when you attack something, FEELING right is much better than those pesky facts. Dave clearly went to Rush Limbaugh's school of attacking something. But then fact checking's never been a strength of the right wing, has it?
And for FUCK'S SAKE, Bill Clinton's been out of office for nearly a decade. Stop bringing up him lying about a fucking blow job whenever your accuracy is attacked, Right Wingers.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:24:21 PM
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That whole album smacks of whacko right-wing Jesus freakery, but I can't help but like ol' Dave. Especially when he takes the high road on stuff like this instead of getting sucked into a piss fight.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:29:57 PM
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Before you right a song about anything you should make sure your facts are correct
I havent seen megadeth bashing yet but i know its coming
Why all the megadeth hate
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COMMENT | Glad to have Dave in the Metal world
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:36:05 PM
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I find Dave a very intelligent guy, basically he's saying that he's provoked people to 'think'......that is what muscians & other artists goals are, to promote thought.
Whether you agree with him or not, thats another issue.
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COMMENT | ...
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:37:08 PM
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I love how everyone fights against what political side Dave is on. I hear people yelling that he is the other side on both sides. I say everyone is a spin doctor and we all just assume he is saying something against us.
Go Dave.
In the end the song got us thinking right? That was probably the point. Not that he was trying to shove something down our throats.
Dave +1
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COMMENT | good job, Dave
posted by : funbastard
7/11/2007 3:41:18 PM
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very well-written response.
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COMMENT | I love threads like these
posted by : oldskool
7/11/2007 3:46:39 PM
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Nothing like watching a political battle of wits fought by the unarmed LOL!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:51:25 PM
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Fuck off and die, Dave.
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COMMENT | HMMMMM
posted by : MetaliDeth
7/11/2007 3:51:36 PM
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Did no one other than me notice the slight pot-shot he took at Metallica....AGAIN? Go back and read. He basically said Metallica had no respect in the metal community.
You know that James and Lars read and hear all this stuff and will put out a blazing album this time around. Mark it up. You heard it here today, tomorrow, until the album comes out.
Please respond....Who here thinks Dave will perform with Mustaine at their Hall of Fame induction? I think Newstead will
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COMMENT | Gigantour III
posted by :
7/11/2007 3:51:58 PM
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Testament Opeth Machine Head.....
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COMMENT | Correction^^^^^^
posted by : MetaliDeth
7/11/2007 3:53:42 PM
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Who here think Dave will perform with METALLICA at the Hall of Fame. (Sorry, I typed to fast on that one). I think he might, but almost feel certain Newstead will.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 4:00:02 PM
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He handled this as well as he possibly could have, I think.
The original "attacker" has a nice cache of petty douchery just to have written that article.
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COMMENT |
posted by : markdr
7/11/2007 4:00:21 PM
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Blame the teachers and parents.
IT'S THEIR FAULT!
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COMMENT | I'm happy to see...
posted by : hatred
7/11/2007 4:17:59 PM
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that so many of you are calling Dave on his bullshit.
"I would rather feel right and be wrong with the semantics or facts in the song and have expressed my right to free speech, than to feel wrong and be right and sit back, like the rest of the cowards of the world, not saying anything." That might be the most pathetic fucking statement I've read in my entire right. Let me paraphrase..."I'd rather be full of shit but think I'm not full of shit."
Being wrong about facts is fine unless you have an audience of fucking ideiots who are too stupid to actually check things out for themselves. Then it's just plain irresponsible.
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COMMENT | That's a pretty weak defense, Dave...
posted by : Dr. Mysterio
7/11/2007 4:24:33 PM
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Rather feel right and be wrong, than feel wrong and be right? What?
Questioning the identity/career of the writer, instead of his statements? Huh?
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COMMENT |
posted by : F Bush
7/11/2007 4:29:11 PM
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I've always enjoyed Megadeth's music, but let's be realistic about Mustaine on a personal level. His thoughts have been totally distorted for a long, long time. He lives in his own alternate reality and can't see the inconsistency and irrationality in his views. This is a guy who once said, "I've always liked Ministry but I know (Al Jourgensen) has a legendary drug problem so you can't really take what he is saying seriously." Those words apply to him as well.
Personnally, I found him to be more tolerable when he wasn't showering us with this right wing vomit, but his political views vary widely and by the release of his next album he could be singing a completely different tune.
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COMMENT | Unfortunately, by the comments attributed to all of this....
posted by :
7/11/2007 4:32:39 PM
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it's not about right or wrong but all about right or left and that ain't the way it should be folks.
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COMMENT | Stanley Kubrick?
posted by : thehauntedmademedoit
7/11/2007 4:36:07 PM
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Anthony Burgess rolls over in HIS grave every time someone credits A Clockwork Orange to Stanley Kubrick. I'm no fan of Mustaine's re-born religious convictions, but I do support his freedom of speech. I think he made his point. He's not claiming to have any more of the facts than what the media has previously reported. He's not making shit up, and in this age of instant information he's just trying to get people to think. He's merely taking the perspective of a journalist within the context of a song. Maybe we could all stand to do at least some basic research before we start talking out the collective ass of humanity.
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COMMENT | MungFace
posted by :
7/11/2007 4:44:25 PM
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You're damn right!
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COMMENT | Wow!
posted by : ShieldAxe
7/11/2007 4:45:12 PM
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That response was so idiotic i find it hard to believe it really came from Mustaine. If it did, he's scarey dumb now. What the hell happened? Did he switch of his brain or maybe just had a Jesus chip installed or something? He sounds like a buffoon.
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COMMENT | Give em Hell Dave!
posted by :
7/11/2007 4:49:46 PM
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Fan for life!leader of the ratts!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Um...why would dave peform with Metallica at any RRHOF show?
posted by :
7/11/2007 4:52:35 PM
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He didnt even play on an album. Most bands you have ever heard of on most labels today dont have the exact same members as when they first started....when will all this stupid shit end?
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COMMENT | Just stop
posted by :
7/11/2007 5:18:27 PM
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Politics and religion always cause a fight, Dave's a musician, and has a right to his opinion, but if you're going to go as far as naming your album something like UA, write lyrics about it and tour the world singing it, then try to get your facts straight because you know an argument is coming. I have always respected him and his music but he is confusing the hell out of me lately with his words. I'm glad he made us all think, but honestly, I don't need any musician to tell me I shouldn't trust the powers that be, I figured that one out on my own, the hard part is to organize the thinkers to DO something.
Oh and to thehauntedmademedoit, right on man, A. Burgess has rolled over that one many times....it was more than just a movie.......READ A BOOK!
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COMMENT | Sooooo....
posted by : -gODGRINDER-
7/11/2007 5:32:11 PM
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What Dave is basically saying is that it's okay to speak out of turn and to spread inflammatory information to millions of listeners without fact checking anything he's said all because "the kids love it, so who cares?"
Does he honestly believe this horse shit?
Swing and a miss, Dave, on both the song and your piss-poor response to REAL criticism of your unsubstantiated diatribes.
As if your credibility wasn't trashed enough while you and Lars shared your feelings on that shrink's flower-patterned couch.
Keep digging like this and you'll be in China by 2009!
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COMMENT | What?
posted by :
7/11/2007 5:35:49 PM
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The following quote is fucking ridiculous:
""I would rather feel right and be wrong with the semantics or facts in the song and have expressed my right to free speech, than to feel wrong and be right and sit back, like the rest of the cowards of the world, not saying anything."
So basically, you'd rather speak up about an issue, even if you have absolutely no knowledge of the facts behind it beyond a gut feeling, than not say anything. I have a different quote for you:
"Tis better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your damn mouth and remove all doubt."
Seriously, folks, if you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything. If you want to talk the issues, go learn the facts first. Then I'll be happy to discuss with you. Don't be like Dave here, and spew ridiculous bullshit without regard for whether it is true or not.
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COMMENT | Republitards
posted by :
7/11/2007 5:42:15 PM
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I am a huge Megadeth fan and will always be, regardless of Dave's religiouse , republitard beliefs.
You guys should see the 1st thread, HOLY SHIT I have never seen a Megadeth thread draw so much attention (just as Dave planned it) , and I mean intelligent people with actual views and political interest.
This guy is more then meets the eye , although we all know of his rediculouse religiouse beliefs he is one hell of a publicist and brilliant self promotor!
If Metallica does even half of the damage Dave has done with this last release , I will be impressed (The new songs sound OK, they have a challange in Feb 2008 though!!).
Piece out to all those that embrace the metal militia....after all fighting for your belief and freedom is what Metal is about to me.
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COMMENT | Truthiness.
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest
7/11/2007 5:44:39 PM
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Dave Mustaine: "I would rather feel right and be wrong with the semantics or facts in the song and have expressed my right to free speech, than to feel wrong and be right and sit back, like the rest of the cowards of the world, not saying anything."
Truthiness.
Tony Blair: "Intelligence also indicates that from forward-deployed storage sites, chemical and biological munitions could be with military units and ready for firing within 45 minutes."
Truthiness.
George W. Bush: "We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
Truthiness.
4000 US soldiers dead, tens of thousands of Iraqis dead, civil war in Iraq, the whole region destabilized, lack of resources for the necessary military and humanitarian operations in Afghanistan.
Truth.
Bill Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
Truthiness, but at least these blowjobs didn't kill thousands of people.
I like Mustaine and Megadeth, but obviously he turned from drug addict to pre-millenialism influenced religious fundamentalist - and there was no U.N.
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COMMENT | "Truthiness...
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest
7/11/2007 6:10:37 PM
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...is tearing apart our country, and I don't mean the argument over who came up with the word...
It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. But that's not the case anymore. Facts matter not at all. Perception is everything. It's certainty. People love the President because he's certain of his choices as a leader, even if the facts that back him up don't seem to exist. It's the fact that he's certain that is very appealing to a certain section of the country. I really feel a dichotomy in the American populace. What is important? What you want to be true, or what is true?..."
Stephen Colbert
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COMMENT | Truthiness
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest
7/11/2007 6:19:22 PM
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=qa-4E8ZDj9s
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MOYZF3It848
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iAvFM4TYQKU
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COMMENT | Well...
posted by :
7/11/2007 6:22:18 PM
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Dave's always been a little bit off to me. This reaction just confirms my feeling. And to anyone who says this isn't right wing...read his "I would rather feel right and be wrong with the semantics or facts" statement. Who else could we apply that to in our government?
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COMMENT | let me get this straight...
posted by : marilyn_munster
7/11/2007 6:49:38 PM
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he'd rather "feel" right than get the facts right? that has got to be one of the single most idiotic things i've ever heard, but that sums up the mentality of a lot of biased people on both sides that cherry-pick or straight out reject facts that don't fall in line with their biases.
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COMMENT | only dave
posted by : stiff
7/11/2007 6:58:50 PM
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would take a situation where someone who really does have half a brain totally disects what he has to say in his "lyrics", tears them to shreds, makes dave look like an un-informed 10th grader w/ a big mouth who's only looking for attention ( much like the "nightcrotchman"), and dave comes out of it feeling oh so important or martyred, when really all he is is a fool!
dave mustain, setting back the metal community 20 years.
good job!
idiot!
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COMMENT | Who Cares?
posted by :
7/11/2007 7:00:10 PM
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Megadeth's new album is painfully average.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 7:03:50 PM
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I don't know about that "feeling right" but "being wrong" stuff.
If he works at the UN, he's sorta well educated. He may have at least gone to a fake school like Regent University as did all the other Bushies.
Whatever.
Hey isn't that Barry Bonds great?
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COMMENT | people...
posted by : stiff
7/11/2007 7:05:43 PM
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the right -wing has NOTHING to do w/ dave being an uninformed, arrogant, asswipe.
that's ALL him!
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COMMENT | [Sic]
posted by :
7/11/2007 7:15:36 PM
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Because his what?
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COMMENT | Das Schuetzenfest
posted by : snipershot
7/11/2007 7:22:48 PM
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"Truth.
Bill Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
Truthiness, but at least these blowjobs didn't kill thousands of people."
But it led to him calling for NATO air strikes killing hundreds of civilians in Kosovo to take the heat off of him and that hummer.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 7:23:24 PM
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I'm sorry, did he just talk about Bill Clinton?
Maybe I was thinking about how George Bush never said that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
Or I could have possibly been thinking about how Cheney wasn't responsible for outing Valerie Plame.
Or maybe I was thiking about Little Miss Can't Be Wrong.
I get so confused what with there being a new scandal in the Bush Administration every other fuckin day.
I disagree!
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COMMENT | Snipershot
posted by :
7/11/2007 7:25:28 PM
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"But it led to him calling for NATO air strikes killing hundreds of civilians in Kosovo to take the heat off of him and that hummer."
And you know this because of what exactly?
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COMMENT |
posted by : Moderate
7/11/2007 7:46:29 PM
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I am a fan of Megadeth and always will be But Dave is Wrong here.
I've always taken him with a grain of salt because he writes (what I think is) great music.
But he stole everything for that tune out of a book (including whole sections of lyrics) by a FOX NEWS reporter (Eric Shawn). It is easy to read something, get fired up, and not question it. Dave should have done more research, and his tap-dancing "rebuttal" shows it. The UN is far from perfect but not for the reasons he attacked them.
BTW, I am a Democrat but Clinton did screw up in Kosovo and Somalia. Hew was great with domestic Issues and fiscal policy but the military was not his strong suit. At least he is better than the warhawks we have in office now.
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COMMENT | Mustaine will never learn to think before he opens his cakehole
posted by : shotgun cheney
7/11/2007 7:50:48 PM
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"whether my facts are right or wrong"
yep... watching fox news.
don't let it happen to you.
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COMMENT | wow!
posted by : stiff
7/11/2007 8:12:52 PM
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some of you idiots are as brainless as dave is!
sad!
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COMMENT | IAmNotStephenColbert
posted by : snipershot
7/11/2007 8:17:01 PM
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Strictly conspiracy theory on my behalf based on timing of everything. It just "felt right".
Though, here are some links that may prove interesting....
http://www.aim.org/aim_column/4897_0_3_0_C/
http://www.hrw.org/press/2000/02/nato207.htm
and a real interesting link to what Republicans were saying about Bill and the war. Sound familiar? Just take Clinton swap with Bush, Kosovo with Iraq, and so on...
http://www.crooksandliars.com/stories/2005/08/17/heresWhatRepublicansSaidAboutClintonAndKosovo.html
Tell me all these fuckers aren't in bed with each other.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 8:37:05 PM
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I can't believe that in this political and military climate that Mustaine is still talking about Clinton.
A couple of blowjobs and all of a sudden, creating a balanced budget along with a budget surplus becomes yesterday's news.
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COMMENT | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
posted by :
7/11/2007 8:38:07 PM
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Still wanna talk about spin?
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 8:46:53 PM
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there's a lot more evidence pointing towards the government and the bush family and the dark lord cheney than there is incriminating the U.N.
Mustaine, you've lost in when you got born again. duh
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:04:54 PM
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Mustaine's got more Gary's than Hart.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
Look, he's not a dumb guy. I don't think that bragging about that Dem National Convention is that brainy, but he's a smart guy, he's seen the world. I just don't understand all this. Who in this country (USA) cares about The UN at all?
Anyway, people who bought this also purchased that.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:11:58 PM
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How can Clinton's path of destruction even be compared to Bush's?
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:15:20 PM
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NO!
War Criminals do things like torture people, or imprison them without formal charges, or lie to The Senate, The Congress, The Citizens, and The UN to start a war to begin with.
That's a war criminal.
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COMMENT | BlabberingOn knows everything!
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:16:12 PM
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He's smarter than everyone else is.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:17:29 PM
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I quit!
Fuckin BlabberingOn has once again put me off posting here. Maybe he should be IP banned.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:27:44 PM
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"Move it to Berlin.. Home of what it truly represents... NAZISM and CORRUPTION"
Wow! I can only hope that you'd say that same statement IN Berlin.
Bush lies all the time. Everything that comes outta his retarded mouth is a lie. BUSH CAN BARELY FORM SENTENCES!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 9:30:30 PM
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Politics as usual...
And everyone get off of Bill's ass. So likes his dick sucked. What dude doesn't?
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COMMENT | Go dave go
posted by : RiotAct666
7/11/2007 10:21:21 PM
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Go get them!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | spooky is an angry loner retard
posted by : shotgun cheney
7/11/2007 10:21:44 PM
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a waste of space on this thread and on this planet
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COMMENT | Blackwater Park & The System Has Failed
posted by : And Then There Were None
7/11/2007 10:35:03 PM
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Blackwater: the most intelligent post i've read in a long time. kudos.
but on to more pressing matters:
who in their right fucking mind thinks that The System Has Failed is a great album?
i just bought it (succumbed to praise from this site itself; i've disassociated myself from Megadeth once they started writing for the radio).
for every good, energetic, interesting song theres three mid-tempo BORING AS FUCKING WATCHING PAINT DRY songs that try to be melodic and catchy and sound like weak hard rock that chicks with hairspray would probably like.
yes, Blackmail, Kick the Chair and Back In The Day are good musically ("Back In The Day" though have lyrics that sound like something from a Manowar B-side). but what about the other 8 or 9 useless songs? yeah, there are a few good riffs scattered about them, but in general they're just boring.
who said The System was great thrash? you owe me the $5.99 plus shipping i burnt on eBay.
well?
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COMMENT | $$$$$$$$$$$$$
posted by :
7/11/2007 11:01:22 PM
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What I said earlier. Everytime posts like this come out and a hundred people argue over it, Dave is counting his money. Oh and Roadrunner (Blabbermouth) too.
No not crazy sales but enough to keep Megadeth from dying. I don't care but those who dislike Dave's views should really be quiet.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/11/2007 11:14:14 PM
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Being a Progressive Democrat has less to do with IQ points than it does simple, universal respect for other human beings.
System was a good album.
Why?
Because it might not have ever come out.
Because TWNAH could have been the last Megs album.
Because we also got Gigantour.
"Something That I'm Not"
"Back In The Day"
"Blackmail"
"Kick"
Because it took me a year to buy it.
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COMMENT | But
posted by :
7/11/2007 11:14:43 PM
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UA Sounds alot better!
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COMMENT | BlabberingOn is RETARDED!
posted by :
7/11/2007 11:16:32 PM
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AND I QUOTE
"Coverup of the Oklahoma City bombing and the Middle East connections!"
Do I actually have to say anything about that quote?
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COMMENT | yet another read of this response by Dave
posted by : And Then There Were None
7/11/2007 11:30:26 PM
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convinces me he is a rambling idiot. he sounds like an 80-year-old man trying to aquit himself of stealing from the Metamucil jar.
another listen of The System tells me it is a terribly uneven album. some great parts. a lot of mediocre ones. lots of cheesy lyrics. some bad backup vocals. a 6.5 at best.
you fuckers who love System ought to throw on Peace Sells. or even Rust. it's like comparing Grey Goose to some trailer park moonshine.
cheers.
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COMMENT | That was an unbelievably, record-breaking MORONIC statement
posted by : Dissident^
7/11/2007 11:49:56 PM
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And Dave you've got nothing in common with the Sex Pistols.
You couldn't even get the lyrics to Anarchy right.
Just give it up.
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COMMENT | dave mustaine...
posted by :
7/12/2007 12:20:39 AM
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ya, I'd love to punch him out. That would be the highlight of my life. He's just another skid mark in the underpants of society. He really is a horrible person. I'm not judging his musical creativity at all here, he was a good writer once. But his ego, personality, and slanderous character outweigh his creativity, and will not be respected on my part. Hearing him talk is like watching Trivium do an interview. Was that too insulting?
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COMMENT | people
posted by : stiff
7/12/2007 12:22:08 AM
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lots of interesting debate....kudos!
but.....
dave still sucks, is an idiot and should go cry to his therapist!
haha!
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COMMENT | Comparisons
posted by :
7/12/2007 1:10:16 AM
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No Megadeth abum after peace sells and rust can be compared to those two albums.
It's an impossible standard far ANY album to live up to.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/12/2007 1:26:10 AM
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I should say any NEW album from the same band.
And musically, Mustaine can't be fucked with.
And, if you did punch Mustaine, someone, who luckily for you, wouldn't be me, would track you down and hurt you very badly. And that's if those Drovers didn't bust you up on the spot.
Metamucil? Yeah. I wonder if he drinks that while he's on the road 200 days a year to prevent himself from shitting in your mouth.
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COMMENT | Pretty weak argument
posted by : MansonKiller
7/12/2007 2:07:27 AM
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on Dave's side. I was hoping for more researched facts to refute what the UN guy said. Unfortunately that was not so.
However,
MEGADETH!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | spooky, two more things about president clinton
posted by : shotgun cheney
7/12/2007 5:09:31 AM
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1. he built a record surplus econonmy
2. he made great relationships with our foreign allies
W has royally jacked up both bits of progress.
W has borrowed more money than all the presidents
before him COMBINED!!!
Iraq already has cost the american taxpayers more
money than vietnam, a trillion bucks a month.
W and Cheney are littered with sleazy cronies who
take the fall for them. Check out the resigned
surgeon general's statements posted in today's
news.
worst president ever. by a landslide. but since
you are 50 years old spooky, it won't hurt you
as much as the americans 30 years and younger.
It will take decades to dig ourselves out of W's
colossal idiotic agendas and payoffs to his rich
cronys.
If you are < 5O, like myself, I'd be pissed off at
the hell we are going to have to pay cleaning up
this douchebags mess.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/12/2007 10:10:15 AM
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It is quite obvious that blabbering on has never taken an economics course. He has no understanding of the politcal/economic spectrum. His constant use of the term "Fascist" to describe liberals or leftists is quite silly. It is common knowledge the the term "Fascist" is used to describe the extreme right side of the political spectrum.
Go back to school
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COMMENT | spooky you are 50
posted by : shotgun cheney
7/12/2007 10:13:45 AM
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we've seen your website.
you are a douche liar, and would have
no problem lying about anything
once a douche always a douche
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COMMENT | From Encarta
posted by :
7/12/2007 10:28:06 AM
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Fascism, modern political ideology that seeks to regenerate the social, economic, and cultural life of a country by basing it on a heightened sense of national belonging or ethnic identity. Fascism rejects liberal ideas such as freedom and individual rights, and often presses for the destruction of elections, legislatures, and other elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of fascism, attempts to build fascist societies have led to wars and persecutions that caused millions of deaths. As a result, fascism is strongly associated with right-wing fanaticism, racism, totalitarianism, and violence.
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761568245/Fascism.html
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COMMENT | iamnotstephencolbert
posted by : And Then There Were None
7/12/2007 10:31:59 AM
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dude, if you're talking about Dave shitting in my mouth, fuck you.
i've been a Megadeth fan since Killing and his output has been weak since after Rust. that's indisputable.
and his rhetoric is weak too. he's a pompous ass who's full of himself and thinks he's some profound intellectual when he's got the brain power of a community college dropout.
you can debate your politics all you want (i'm actually on your side politically), but don't say Dave can shit in my mouth when he's been releasing substandard music for well over a decade or more. i know my metal and The System is not that good. and Dave is a rambling idiot.
cheers.
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COMMENT | ...and more
posted by :
7/12/2007 10:45:00 AM
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FASCISM DEFINITION
TheFreeDictionary.com defines fascism as: “A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.”
Other elements of fascism include:
Powerful idea of nationalism
Powerful executive control in government
Lower human rights outlook
Military reigns supreme
Corporations wield great power
Idea that National Security is at great risk to some threat
Identifying of enemies/scapegoats that unifies citizens in Patriotism
Mass media controlled by State and Corporations
Fixed elections
Rampant corruption
Unlimited power held by police force
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COMMENT | still missing junkie Dave
posted by :
7/12/2007 11:38:06 AM
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Is this really the same guy that wrote Hanger 18? He sounds like Rush Limbaugh Jr.
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COMMENT | Clinton
posted by :
7/12/2007 6:32:02 PM
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Was slightly better than Bush. The difference though makes the difference, he was still imperialist, but way more into using free trade and diplomacy to gain the U.S Corporate Imperialist ends (btw I am not a leftist or communist, just telling it like it is), the Neocons prefer outright war to such manuvering. One thing that was pretty pathetic about Clinton was Madeline Albright's reaction to the allegation that the Iraq sanctions had killed a half a million children:
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.
Clinton was way closer to traditional republican (and internationalist, like Bush SR) than Carter or most of the Dems.
The Dems aren't doing shit about this war or terrorism these days (er, going to the root causes and thinking about many of them. The only person I see saying ANYTHING relevant about this is a Republican, Ron Paul!
As far as the economy, the economy was boosted under Reagan, but with Clinton it was better overall (more well rounded). Now the debate could be that Reagan caused the boom, but then again couldn't you then say Carter's policies caused the Reagan boom with the same logic? Wrong, the economy is cyclical, it has booms and busts, and people often look to an administration far too closely for the causes of this. However, I think the reason Clinton was so hated by the Right Wing is because he accomplished a good ecomomy, without being a republican and simultaneously having a (relatively) socially liberal ideology. I think they're jealous, because he raised taxes on the upper 1 %, and ALSO accomplished a good economy, something supply siders said wasn't possible.
I'm not a Clinton lover by any means, but I just look at the facts and determine what I believe to be true. Fuck party affiliations and stupid meaningless labels like Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative.
I'm liberal about some things, conservative about others, libertarian on other things.
Its this black and white political posturing that keeps America from truly being greater than it could be.
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COMMENT | Blabbering*on
posted by :
7/12/2007 6:44:04 PM
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I have a challenge for you:
Find FIVE different resources for the opinion that Clinton's economy was bad.
The challenge: one mainstream source.
one Libertarian source.
one liberal source.
One conservative source.
one moderate source.
Instead of your unhinged website you list, I'd like to see you rise to this challenge and inform us why Clinton presided over a "bad" ecomomy. Even Republicans acknowledge that the economy was good during his term, even if they use different ideas why it was so.
Btw, as far as Bush being bad economically, and foreign policy wise, I can find five sources that I listed that say so. Just ask Pat Buchanan what he thinks of the war in Iraq, not a liberal by any means.
Just ask the Cato institute, a very libertarian pro small government thinktank.
Just ask Chuck Hagel or Jim Webb, not "leftists" by any means.
Just ask the various staffers under Reagan and Bush Sr that oppose the current war in Iraq.
Its not a left/right issue at all anymore.
As far as Clinton and Communist countries, what is Gw doing about China's oppression of Human Rights, or Saudi Arabia's oppression of their people? Oh economic vested interests in those countries? Oh so we shouldn't care about what happens to the people of China then because Bush isn't doing SHIT about that?
Wake the fuck up.
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COMMENT | Firewind
posted by :
7/12/2007 7:16:21 PM
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I dig pretty much all of what you said. I think it was well delivered and sensible.
Except for that Ron Paul business, and here's why.
He's a corporatist. He wants to shut down most government programs. I don't like that at all.
Aside from that, I really thought your posts were a good read.
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COMMENT | I still stand by this statement
posted by :
7/12/2007 7:57:17 PM
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It is quite obvious that blabbering on has never taken an economics course. He has no understanding of the politcal/economic spectrum. His constant use of the term "Fascist" to describe liberals or leftists is quite silly. It is common knowledge the the term "Fascist" is used to describe the extreme right side of the political spectrum.
I even provided credible sources as a reference point. What have you provided besides your baseless opinion that no one cares about?
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COMMENT | BlabberingOn
posted by :
7/12/2007 8:07:22 PM
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IS A BIG INFECTED SLOPPY PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least Mustaine has a band.
Unless that is, that you like talking shit on a fucking internets metal board.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/12/2007 8:26:52 PM
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Wha Happen?
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COMMENT | BlabberingOn
posted by :
7/12/2007 8:40:30 PM
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Don't have a band?
What's the excuse?
Crazy but not crazy enough?
Wheelchair bound?
Hated by all?
Retarded?
Flat Feet?
Nervous?
Old?
What's the loophole?
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COMMENT | Correction
posted by :
7/12/2007 8:46:49 PM
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Wheelchair bound, is generally speaking, not a good enough excuse.
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COMMENT | BlaberingOn
posted by :
7/12/2007 9:09:44 PM
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Don't have a band?
What's the excuse?
Crazy but not crazy enough?
Wheelchair bound?
Hated by all?
Retarded?
Flat Feet?
Nervous?
Old?
What's the loophole?
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COMMENT | BlabberingOn
posted by :
7/12/2007 9:18:41 PM
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"Another tell-tale sign of a loser bitch"
You are an egghead from the nerd patrol.
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COMMENT | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
posted by :
7/12/2007 9:22:30 PM
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Who can only talk shit through an internets portal.
This is unhealthy.
Believe me.
Start a band shit for brains.
Even if you suck.
Which, ya do.
At least more than 5 people'll pay attention.
You know that's what you want.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/13/2007 12:44:21 AM
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Alright so,
You make lotsa money, and that's, well that's really somethin.
Doesn't stop you from being a fuckin copy/paste moron though does it?
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COMMENT | Dave you are not "just a dumb guitar player" we all love & worship you
posted by : Daves She Wolf
7/14/2007 7:30:21 PM
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"Anyway, I would rather be wrong about the lyrics of 'UA' (which is just a song in the end) and have this guy try to explain why I shouldn't have your love and support, then be right and have no one notice. And it makes me wonder, if I was wrong, why bother with me? I am just a dumb metal guitar player, right?
"I dig it when the Droogs get to have discussions like this because we all win; we all learn something.
"In closing, I love you guys and don't let this deter you from what really matters. As I have said before, 'its still 'we the people', right?'"
Dave just want you to know that me personally have & will always love your music, love & worship you and Megadeth until the end of my days. Your true Mega-Fans will follow you, worship you, love you, & support you. You are a musical genius, a mastermind, the father of thrash metal. You are & will always be an important part of the world of metal. I have heard of people who have music degrees and cannot do & will never be able to do or accomplish what you have and never be able to write the riffs that you write, play guitar like you and write music the way that you do. Dave you are a true GOD. Your music will live forever. "Do you have any idea what your music means to me and the rest of the world? You probably do. My heart felt sad when you referred to yourself as "just a dumb guitar player". Please never say those horrible things about yourself. You & Megadeth will forever rule the entire universe and will forever be number ONE.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/15/2007 2:50:39 AM
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As James Hetfield just said; "Politics get in the way of getting things done"
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COMMENT | Oh and btw
posted by :
7/15/2007 2:54:46 AM
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The metal world wouldnt give two shits if Megacrap would disappear of the face of the earth right now.
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COMMENT | Lol
posted by : Paradosis
7/28/2007 4:01:36 PM
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I liked the comment by the person who congratulated Dave for taking the high road. Yeah, when you're shown to be wrong over and over again (in a text), it's a smart move to not try and fight back with facts. Just pretend like it's no big deal, and try to obfuscate by making some point about how it is better to speak your opinion and be wrong, than to be right and not go on tirades about it. So, basically, Dave is being consistent: he says dumb stuff, but at least he's not afraid to do it!
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