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METALLICA's JAMES HETFIELD Says 'St. Anger' Was A 'Statement' That 'Didn't Work'
- July 19, 2007
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Britain's Kerrang! magazine ( web site) recently conducted an interview with METALLICA frontman James Hetfield. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow: Kerrang!: You're working [on the new METALLICA album] with Rick Rubin who has a reputation as an "absentee" producer... James: Oh, I met him once, I bumped into him in a corridor! [Laughs] No, we were well aware of his reputation when we signed up. On "St. Anger", [longtime METALLICA collaborator] Bob Rock did everything — he was producer, engineer, bass player, babysitter, father figure. And Rick is pretty much the opposite; he's not there to babysit. When we first came in, his opening statement was, "I want you guys to impress me; I want you to feel like you're starting out again." He really wants us to get in the mind-set of "Master of Puppets". It's impossible to recreate what we were 20 years ago, that's silly, but we had to get that hunger back. Kerrang!: And he's impressed so far? James: Rubin is really good at feeling songs, and he'll tell you straight-up if he doesn't like something. We started with 20 songs and we've whittled it down to 14 since he came in. He won't say "This fucking sucks," but he'll make suggestions and I'm definitely open to that. With "St. Anger", it became so open-minded that it became unfocused. This time around, there's a lot of "Sorry, it's not good enough." We're aiming for excellence. Kerrang!: With "St Anger", did the democracy you practiced in the studio end up comprimising the album? James: Definitely. It was very unrealistic. We went from tearing each other's throats out with sarcasm, anger and not speaking to the polar opposite where we'd embrace every stupid idea so as to not hurt anyone's feelings. And that didn't work either! Kerrang!: It seems weird that you're taking time out to tour when you're on a roll in the studio... James: Well, hopefully it'll inspire us to take it to another level. You'll listen back to a new song and go, "We were just out there listening to 60,000 people screaming at what they love about METALLICA and I don't think they're gonna scream at this! Also it gets claustrophobic in there — you can be trapped in there not knowing whether people are still out there. Kerrang!: Have you started to work on the lyrics? James: I have phrasings and something vocally to at least feel what the song is like. I forgot about "Let's please everyone in the band." Now it's, "This is where my head's at." I think people will identify with it. Kerrang!: Is there a sense that time is running out for METALLICA and you need to make a defining album again? James: Well, we have no shortage of ideas and what am I gonna do? I write songs, I play songs and I like doing this. I know we're getting older, there's no point in trying to hide that fact, and we might tour less than we did, but as records go, we just want to make a good record, that's all we ever want to do. I mean, we thought "St. Anger" was going to be amazing, but it turned out to be more of a statement than METALLICA music that we enjoy playing live. It was more of a purge, just getting that shit out of me, as a catalyst for the next chapter of METALLICA.
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COMMENT | Hey
posted by : danimal_73
7/19/2007 11:38:32 PM
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St Anger still works pretty good as a beer coaster
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/19/2007 11:45:56 PM
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Metallica couldn't make a statement to save themselves any more
into the mindset of MOP?? puhlease!
doesn't seem they were in the MOP mindset with that wrote that shitty "wwhoooo oooohhh whooooohhh" song, thats for sure. God only knows what mindset thet were in......
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COMMENT | gotta love hetfield
posted by :
7/19/2007 11:51:39 PM
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if theres any proof that metallica aren't sellouts/snobs/fakes (lars ulrich aside) it's james. just a genuinely down to earth, hard-working dude and a hell of a songwriter. god i hope he and metallica don't fuck this one up.
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COMMENT | OH MY GOD!
posted by :
7/19/2007 11:53:14 PM
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St. Bullshit....LMAO OMFG BBQ HIV LOL ROFL!
that was so original!
P.S. You're an idiot.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/19/2007 11:53:40 PM
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St. Anger: The only Metallica album that I don't have in my collection. It sucks!
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COMMENT |
posted by : MarkTexas
7/19/2007 11:58:19 PM
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st anger sucked pretty hard, it seemed like a bunch of parts of songs that didnt really fit....it is a very odd album. hopefully rick will pull them out of their slump...
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COMMENT | ;o0
posted by : eddiegunner
7/20/2007 12:00:21 AM
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well, lets hope the new album would kikk ass, or else metallica would have to call it quits ;................
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COMMENT |
posted by : wooten
7/20/2007 12:05:57 AM
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Looking forward to the new one. If someone feels there's no way they can "redeem" themselves, why do they waste their time? If I thought a band put out crap for 12 years, damned if I'd be reading every headline and wasting my life commenting on how terrible they are. Bizarre.
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posted by : theAssWookie
7/20/2007 12:08:02 AM
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i love this band because they're so down to earth and admit it when they're wrong and they realize what they're doing.
james is best. i'm sure this album is gonna be good. you can tell they're focufsde
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:08:36 AM
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I liked about 4 songs out of st anger, it was a bit of a disappointment, but they still fucking rock live. You cant deny that.
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COMMENT | Me too...
posted by : krek
7/20/2007 12:16:58 AM
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St. Anger: The only Metallica album that I don't have in my collection. It sucks!
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COMMENT | Metallica
posted by : ryanpday
7/20/2007 12:19:44 AM
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Ohhh Metallica. Back in the day, you guys were the band that nobody could fuck with. It was you guys, Slayer, Testament, Exodus...and a bunch of others. Metallica was the band that would not compromise. Now, Metallica have put out a doucumentary about "how to get along" and "feelings", put out shitty albums for a long time straight now, and seem to have lost the huge integrity that they once had. Hope they can get that back, but I think it's been long gone since 'And Justice For All'.
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COMMENT | all you bashers
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:19:49 AM
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are just pissed about them trying something new. you all still listen to the albums, otherwise you wouldnt read the headlines!
Metallica will make a heavy fast, agressive CD. I know they will, look at the formula, Hetfield is on vocals, writing vocals. Kirk's talking about doing middle eastern shit on guitar. And now-a-days you actually read interviews where lars isnt anwsering all the questions! PLUS! Thrash is in!
Im not calling metallica trend followers by ANY means, because they started it! But face it! would they of made a thrash record similar to the 82'-88' era say 7 years ago?
HELL NO.
Thrash is back, metallica will own.
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COMMENT |
posted by : ManOwaR
7/20/2007 12:19:52 AM
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James: Definitely. It was very unrealistic. We went from tearing each other's throats out with sarcasm, anger and not speaking to the polar opposite where we'd embrace every stupid idea so as to not hurt anyone's feelings. And that didn't work either!
BAHHAHAHHAHA... Thats 100% gold. Know what else didn't work James? Sticking with Bob Rock after the Black Album. [Even then, but hell, that was some pretty solid sound on that disc]. Note: the two "new songs" fucking suck, and listen to Trujillo and don't put them on the album, kthx.
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COMMENT | On another note!
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:24:40 AM
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Kirk Hammet's ex-band is still kicking a__. EXODUS!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : krek
7/20/2007 12:26:17 AM
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"Everyone keeps hoping this band puts out a killer CD....well, it's been over 20 years since they have."
Why not?
Slayer's new CD is promising
Megadeth's UA is close to RIP
Maiden and motorhead haven't change for ages
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COMMENT |
posted by : pigchop
7/20/2007 12:29:10 AM
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I really, really, really hope this once great band gives us an apology for all the crap they have released since the black album - an apology in the form of a kick-ass album.
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COMMENT | They DID say "metal is dead"
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:32:11 AM
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Lars said this on MTV in 1996 when Load came out. I remember James and Kirk saying the same thing in the mid-;ate 90s. When the video for "until it shites" was first aired all everybody started shitting their pants over how low metallica had sunk. even so, Load is not too bad its just Metallica's attempt at a Sabbath hard rock influenced direction. St Anger has some good guitar riffs, but just sounds like a cluster fuck of random ideas. Like the guy said earlier, I hope Metallica dont fuck this new album
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COMMENT | The "next chapter of METALLICA"
posted by : THRASHMONGER
7/20/2007 12:34:46 AM
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That book should be called "How The Mighty Have Fallen." The metal died with Cliff.
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COMMENT | wow
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:40:46 AM
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metallica is one of the most talented bands of all time. Not only did they almost create thrash metal but they also have experimented with other types of music. so people who say that metallica sux dont know what their talking about. OH and HETFEILD IS LEGEND!
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COMMENT | A statement that does work....
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:48:58 AM
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Kreator, Testament, Exodus, Annihilator, Nuclear Assault, Destruction, Sodom, Overkill. I can go on, but do you see these names here? At one point Metallica were ahead of this bunch. You look at now and they don't even get the satisfaction of being mentioned with these bands........
Your asses are on the line. You fail on this one, Metallica dies so you can let everyone else do the work because we obviously don't need you.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:56:40 AM
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The new metallica album should be called Reign in Puppets
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COMMENT | Metal Militia
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:57:03 AM
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We are as one as we all are the same
Fighting for one cause
Leather and metal are our uniforms
Protecting what we are
Joining together to take on the world
With our heavy metal
Spreading the message to everyone here
Come let yourself go
They'll never quit because they're METALLICA!
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COMMENT | lyrically...
posted by :
7/20/2007 1:32:50 AM
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I wish James would put himself in the frame of mind he was when he wrote "For Whom The Bell Tolls". That song has just about every poetic license in it, including "paradox". I wonder if he did that on purpose.
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COMMENT | 'St. Anger' Was A 'Statement' That 'Didn't Work'
posted by :
7/20/2007 1:44:30 AM
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so was Load, Reload, and S&M...
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COMMENT | ^^^
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:07:43 AM
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This will help you with your lonely nights...
http://i11.tinypic.com/2li8uwz.gif
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:10:40 AM
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"so was Load, Reload, and S&M..."
I always love when people know so little about S&M that they actually think it's a studio album. As opposed to what it is, a cool double live album with an orchestra. And it worked well enough that people are still copying it.
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COMMENT | ^^^
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:15:12 AM
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Didn't say it was a studio album. Just saying it didn't work. It sucked like everything else they did since 91. And who's copying that? Therion was doing the classical thing before Metallica.
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COMMENT | The Outlaw Torn
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:32:45 AM
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"Give me a damn break. Metallica evolved their sound because it's what THEY wanted. They answer to no one, never have, never will. If you can show me where at any point in time they were asking for suggestions on what should sound like what or how they should approach doing what they have been doing for over 20 years"
Just watch the the Year and a half life video. Bob Rock basically tells the whole band what the songs should sound like. Now that he's gone, Rubin is telling them to go back to standard tuning and get that Master of Puppets vibe. They answer to no one because they just do what they are told. They are spineless.
Carrots are very healthy for you and they have more backnone than Metallica and you.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:38:18 AM
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"Just watch the the Year and a half life video. Bob Rock basically tells the whole band what the songs should sound like. Now that he's gone, Rubin is telling them to go back to standard tuning and get that Master of Puppets vibe. They answer to no one because they just do what they are told. They are spineless."
Further evidence of this can be found in Some Kind of Monster, when Bob Rock tells Hammet that solos will make the band sound old and Hammett (a world reknowned LEAD guitarist) quickly curls up like a scared puppy and agrees with him. I'm usually not one for Metallica bashing (unless i'm incredibly bored), but that scene right there made me lose what remaining shred of respect i had left for Metallica.
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COMMENT | i don't like metallica
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:39:36 AM
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i think all their music sucks dick... but you can listen to them if you want... ain't gonna cut down a man just 'cause of his musical tastes
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:44:25 AM
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"Further evidence of this can be found in Some Kind of Monster, when Bob Rock tells Hammet that solos will make the band sound old and Hammett (a world reknowned LEAD guitarist) quickly curls up like a scared puppy and agrees with him. I'm usually not one for Metallica bashing (unless i'm incredibly bored), but that scene right there made me lose what remaining shred of respect i had left for Metallica."
He did the same thing with the solo for Unforgiven. Bob Rock told him he didn't like the solo he played and Kirk had that crushed look on his face and was about to cry and redid the solo. Lars had that same look when his dad said the songs on St. Anger weren't good. I lost respect when the video for Until is Shits came out.
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COMMENT | I'm going to bed...
posted by :
7/20/2007 2:45:55 AM
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...more bashing tomorrow. Fuck off The Outlaw Torn.
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COMMENT |
posted by : KISSman24
7/20/2007 3:27:16 AM
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St. Anger wasn't half as bad as the garbage that came before it. The LOADs of crap, if you will.
I'm not too happy that they are shooting to make another Black sounding album. It should be about re-connecting with the band's sound before that slick, commercial-sounding record.
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COMMENT | S&M
posted by :
7/20/2007 3:27:53 AM
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If you think that S&M didnt work your musical taste sucks :D No, I mean it, I can accept people having different ideas, tastes and maybe disliking orchestras, but saying that it sucks just cuz you clearly hate on everything Metallica after 1990 is...... Yeah its just sad.
S&M is fantastic, it works on so many levels, oh yeah and the two new song on S&M (-Human, No Leaf Clover) are pretty good.
Ps: A great interview, shows that James knows what's going on, unlike that dave shitstaine.
The two "new" songs are not going to be on the new album, they dont represent the music on the new album. Jeeeeez.
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COMMENT | this is a good sign...
posted by : shotgun cheney
7/20/2007 3:49:02 AM
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i don't doubt metallica will be back to better form
as people, james and lars suck shit.
very uncool jackasses, and i think
some rubbed off on kirk.
but that's just what a lot of us locals
in SF say......
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COMMENT |
posted by : rubthebuddha
7/20/2007 4:01:45 AM
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The real problem with Metallica is where they are now from when they started out. Tthey were, like many of us, angry outcasts, and had found a group of like minded people and a medium into which they could skillfully throw all their anger and emotion. James wrote thought-provoking lyrics and those lyrics reflected his own self-perceived status in society. Go back and look at all their early pictures, James was the ugly pock-marked dude in junior high school, Lars was the midget troll, Cliff was the hippie stoner and Kirk was the snaggle-toothed afro'd kid. They had found something that helped them fit in, and they committed to it 100%. But through the years, James became the most popular guy in any room, Lars is banging a model and selling artwork on the side, and Kirk is on the cover of all the guitar hero magazines. They have lost touch with the reality of who they were, and they will never get that back. So, while they might write some strong material in the future, they will never regain the spark and true anger that created Creeping Death or Fight Fire or Master of Puppets. Sadly for the sake of many of us early fans, they are incapable of being who they were, and recapturing that magic.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 4:09:16 AM
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COMMENT | What a betrayal!
posted by : The Outlaw Torn
7/20/2007 12:32:27 AM
Give me a damn break. Metallica evolved their sound because it's what THEY wanted. They answer to no one, never have, never will. If you can show me where at any point in time they were asking for suggestions on what should sound like what or how they should approach doing what they have been doing for over 20 years, I will agree with you on your Metallica compromised and sold out statements. Until then, try to act like you know what the hell you're talking about.
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Could not agree more but as a huge Metallica fan myself, I think they're realizing that they've been a little too stubborn and pissed off a lot of people now to where it might reflect on their record sales. St. Anger did not sell good in the US but it sold better in Europe which might explain why they've toured out there the last two years, people in the US must be more pissed off at them or the metal scene just isn't as strong as it once was in the US, I honestly don't know. But I don't care what Metallica puts out, I'll know I'll like it as much as I've like everything else they've put out...and I'm from the US.
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COMMENT | Great
posted by : cruel samoan
7/20/2007 4:10:32 AM
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That he's prepared to admit that, and he seems to have his head screwed on better than last time. Here's hoping for something massive!
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COMMENT | woaaaaahhhhhhh wwwwwwwwwooooooooooaaaaaahhhhhhhhh yeah
posted by :
7/20/2007 4:23:47 AM
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cliff burton originally pened the 2nd new song, the band originally thought it was too good for Master of Puppets, it's only now on their forthcoming 'Bent for the Rent' Opus that metallica have found a suitable place for it.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 5:12:57 AM
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I liked St. Anger.
What I don't like is this guy tearing down his own work.
I think it sucks. He should own that album, bumps and all.
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COMMENT | Branikald_44
posted by :
7/20/2007 5:38:01 AM
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Yeah, I was gunna say that too (that they did say "metal is dead"), I've seen that footage many a time.
To anyone who thinks we're making it up, I'll describe it. Around the time Load came out, Kirk and Lars fronted up to a pack of journos to talk about the album. Kirk was in the middle of saying something, when Lars leans into the mic (cutting Kirk off in the process), and declares quite loudly:
"Metal is dead!"
...What more can I say?
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COMMENT | Bob Rock did everything
posted by : Dee67
7/20/2007 5:51:13 AM
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Did he write the songs? Did he force Lars to change his snare? Sounds like someone evading responsibility.
For the new record, make St. Anger 2 - continue to explore your inner child and screech like a little girl being chased by a spider.
But seriously, I actually like some of the songs on St. Anger and if it was mixed better it would have probably been less of a stain on the band's record... Speaking of record, I can't wait to buy the new one.. stop doing interviews and get back to work! :)
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COMMENT |
posted by : OneManArmy
7/20/2007 6:01:09 AM
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frantic tic tic tac. what are you guys bitching about? that shit is gold
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COMMENT | imagine this.......
posted by :
7/20/2007 6:11:53 AM
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i was 13 years old in 1988.so in '88 i hear from a friend about this cool band called metallica.friend told me to pick up the new one called and justice for all.well i go buy it which was the only way to get new music back then.pre internet.i was impressed and went the next week and bought kill em all,ride the lighning,master of puppets and garage days revisited.i knew from listening they were too good to remain in the background too much longer.they were metal and they were true to their roots.making a video for the song 'one' didn't hurt either.however as a pissed off 16 year old in 91 i was looking for metallica to blow away all the bullcrap on the charts.a return to masters or something like that...hah! september of 1991 is when they lost all the true fans and gained what i call the 'sandman' fans.these are the people who only started liking them because of enter sandman.then they totally wimped out on 'nothing else matters.then in 1996 i turn 21 of legal drinking age and so i go get a bottle and hope they redeem themselves with load.after an hour i was drunk and dumber for living through that experience.the thing is i wasn't watching much televsion and the next day sober i happen to sit by the door looking at the pictures on the insert of load.what the hell is this.makeup,cigars and short hair! and a country song? james hetfield hanging with brooks and dunn? i was done then.then a reload of bullcrap followed by a butchered tragedy of the original garage days followed by a symphony album! welp when st. anger come along i figured ok maybe they'll go back to their roots and get angry so i bought a copy.as i was drumming on the side of my tool box i noticed it sounded better than lars drums.so now rick rubin is suppose to be the magic genie who brings them back to life.somehow i'm thinking i'll have another bad experience.history sure tells me so!!!
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COMMENT | Woah Oh.
posted by : SlayerFan287
7/20/2007 6:14:34 AM
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"Kerrang!: Have you started to work on the lyrics?"
"James: I have phrasings and something vocally to at least feel what the song is like."
There ya go, I wouldn't worry about the "Wooahhhh Ooaaah!" from New Song #2 making the final cut.
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COMMENT | Boo Bloody Hoo
posted by :
7/20/2007 6:24:33 AM
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All these bashers going on about how they haven't made a great album in 20 years blah blah blah. Get over it!
Most here have already decided that it is going to suck without actually hearing it, so why even bother posting.
Fucking ignorant!
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COMMENT | ANDY WALLACE
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest
7/20/2007 6:42:04 AM
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"'tallica" / Metallica and Rick Rubin should hire Andy Wallace as co-producer and especially for the mix of the album. Slayer's "holy trinity" and best sounding albums (Reign, South, Seasons) were co-prduced and/or mixed by Andy Wallace. The later Slayer albums were produced by Rubin too, but lacked the razor sharp and crystal clear Andy Wallace mix and sounded subpar in comparison. Wallace gave dozens of rock bands a great sound; from Slayer to New Model Army, to White Zombie, to Bad Religion, to Faith No More, to Nirvana, to Helmet to Sepultura...
Only with Andy Wallace in the mix (pun intended) I'll get my hopes slightly up for the new "'tallica" / Metallica output.
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COMMENT | stanger
posted by :
7/20/2007 7:05:54 AM
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St. Anger is good.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Big Rod Oh!
7/20/2007 8:08:27 AM
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Frantic tic tic tic toc! Sing it... you know it's stuck in your head.
Now put the cd on...realize that there are some good songs on there and that the production quality is what really blows about St. Anger.
BRO
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COMMENT |
posted by : Eternal Nightmare
7/20/2007 8:14:01 AM
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EXODUS>>>>> METALLICA
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COMMENT | "It was more of a purge, just getting that shit out of me"
posted by :
7/20/2007 8:14:55 AM
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Man, I've been saying this from day one.
"St Anger" was like puking after a night of binge drinking (Load/Reload).
Foul smelling, unpleasant, gross... but COMPLETELY neccesary.
I am so looking forward to the next album.
\m/
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COMMENT | You got that right...
posted by : Kissfan77
7/20/2007 8:39:06 AM
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St Anger is the WORST record Metallica has done...period. TIme to rescind that sin and make a new and BETTER album.
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COMMENT | feelings... nothing more than feelings.............................
posted by :
7/20/2007 8:41:50 AM
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a sense of foreboding creeps.....................................................................
2 'feelings' and 1 'open to'.............................................................................
i fear that the sack is not back.........................................................................
:)olc
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COMMENT | Who needs...
posted by : AlienMind
7/20/2007 8:43:53 AM
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Metallica, when we have....
Beatallica??
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COMMENT | Great Interview
posted by :
7/20/2007 9:02:05 AM
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Deff. a good interview, I like the fact that the journalist asked all the right questions such as "Do you think Metallica's time is running out and feel like you need to make a defining record again"
Deff something every fan wants to tell Metallica, its about time a journalist did too.
This interview deff. gave me some hope, at least they know what the fans want.
*Cross your fingers*
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 9:08:16 AM
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hopefully it will be good
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COMMENT | Sad
posted by : Mudbone
7/20/2007 9:13:13 AM
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Metallica died along time ago. They just missed their own funeral.
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COMMENT | @ Das Schuetzenfest,
posted by : resunikufesin
7/20/2007 9:46:26 AM
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great idea, Kölner.
Always thought drinking too much Kölsch has the same effect like being hooked on Absinthe and opiate. Nevertheless, you proved me wrong. Again, good point.
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COMMENT | LOL
posted by : Skullchrist
7/20/2007 10:08:56 AM
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This is comedy gold!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 10:28:49 AM
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St Anger was a disgrace. I am glad nobody bought into it. It was Hetfield and his band burying themselves in their belly buttons. I borrowed it from a friend and copied it. I've painfully listened to it about 6 times and now I never touch it.
Metallica, please impress me next time. I know you guys have it in you.
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COMMENT | the truth is
posted by :
7/20/2007 10:32:27 AM
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I'm not a big fan of Metallica post-Justice, but lets be real here, if they didnt change their sound you bashers would bitch that everything they put out sounds the same.
You cant please everybody.
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COMMENT | coredump
posted by : Skullchrist
7/20/2007 11:05:27 AM
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I don't know if he's an old timer or not but you can tell by his level of disgust that he probably is. And he is 100% right. Metallica encouraged bootlegging in the early days and eventually became hypocrites of their own making. They only do what they are told now. The master of puppets is the record company and they are simply the puppets. They have become a mockery of their own creation.
As I said once before, it sucks to lose faith in your heroes.
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COMMENT |
posted by : En_Gris
7/20/2007 11:58:14 AM
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So, now that Jaymz is basically admitting that St Anger is a piece of shit.. how does that make those idiots feel who are still maintaining what a great album it is?
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COMMENT | LARS ULRICH
posted by :
7/20/2007 12:13:15 PM
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IMO, LARS ULRICH IS WORTHLESS AND ONLY KEEPS METALLICA DOWN. HE CLEARLY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE WEAKEST LINK IN THE BAND WITH REGARD TO MUSICIANSHIP. AND IN THE CONTEXT OF TODAY'S METAL DRUMMERS' LEVEL OF VIRTUOSITY, HE CAN'T HOPE TO COMPARE TO THE INDUSTRY STANDARD.
YET HE CANNOT RESIST KEEPING HIS MOUTH SHUT EVEN THOUGH NOTHING HE SAYS IS MEANINGFUL, ORIGINAL , OR INTERESTING.
THERE SHOULD BE A PETITION ON METALLICA'S WEB SITE TO URGE THEM TO GET RID OF LARS. THE ONLY REASON HE IS IN THE BAND IS BECAUSE HE IS AN ORIGINAL MEMBER.
THE BAND SHOU8LD GET RID OF THIS MEDIOCRE, OVERPAID, NOISY, BIG-HEADED, ACTRESS-HUMPING ( lucky )PIECE OF EXCREMENT AND HAVE JAMES AND KIRK COMPOSE SONGS WITH SOMEONE OF THE AMBITIOUSNESS, TALENT, CREATIVITY, AND CHARACTER OF SOMEONE LIKE PORTNOY,JRZOMBEK(sp?) OR RULLO.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS UNLIKELY, BUT JUST IMAGINE WHAT A CHARGE OF INSPIRATION A DRUMMER LIKE THAT COULD PROVIDE TO METALLICA'S WANING CREATIVITY LEVEL.
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COMMENT | Honestly..
posted by : King Dime
7/20/2007 12:39:46 PM
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I think James' admission of what went wrong with St Anger and his honesty is awesome. He was straight up, didn't bullshit or tip-toe around shit. Makes me optimistic about the next record.
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COMMENT | Maybe Metallica HAD to make St. Anger...
posted by :
7/20/2007 1:39:31 PM
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doesn't mean they had to release it.
plur
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COMMENT | Plihtari
posted by :
7/20/2007 1:54:10 PM
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You like Metallica so it is very obvious that your taste in music sucks. S&M just sounded terrible. Other bands did the classical/metal thing and did a better job of it. Therion did it before Metallica.
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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666
7/20/2007 2:10:06 PM
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Hetfield = metal.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/20/2007 3:05:31 PM
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nodeerforamonth, do you mean poetic device?
oh, and that headline is misleading...james said it was a statement, and then he said the hugging and shit didnt work. he never said the statement in itself didnt work. but overall, it seems that they are in fact looking for excuses for sucking.
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COMMENT |
posted by : fullshredd
7/21/2007 4:40:16 AM
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Metallica haven't put anything good out since Black which was basically the last record with any hint of metal on it.
This album will probably suck balls just as much as all the others in the last 15 years
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COMMENT | Lets see 4 years after St. Anger
posted by :
7/21/2007 9:56:25 PM
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Granted I dont like the album, I think it served its purpose. Considering people are STILL talking about it and STILL NOT SHUTTING up about it whether you loved it or hated it, its STILL being debated over and over. I dont see too many people talking about Iron Maiden A Matter of Life and Death and that was a pretty kick ass album. Oh yeah and Slayer are already re-releasing the last album? What gives? people forgot they existed or something?
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COMMENT | IT'S BEEN TOO LONG.....
posted by :
7/22/2007 2:05:09 AM
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I've been a Tallica fan for a very long time, here's my 2 cents.....A couple things that are talked about a lot on this thread: St. Anger, Napster, selling out, etc....St Anger was a statement...a statement of three men struggling with a whole heap of horseshit......people tend to forget that above all these are people, not commodities....lyrically, it was a purging...musically, it had its moments...its funny that it sold as much as kill 'em all...people said the same thing when it came out: shitty production, shitty songs, etc....Napster was an intersting debachle....they had just finished a lawsuit with their record company to finally get control of their music so that the record company couldn't do anything stupid with their music....then they turn around and see that the lawsuit against their record company was all for naught....people were doing whatever the hell they wanted with the music....don't be so arrogant to think that metallica exists for you, they exist for themselves first and foremost, just as any true artist does.....if they existed for the sole purpose of you buying their records, that would make them sell-outs in the truest sense of the hyphenated word....as far as everything past the black album sucking?.....I will say this...metal is about rebellion, going against the grain....to say they sold out for any of the myriad of reasons that are normally stated is ridiculous......once you start putting rules on metal and saying that it MUST follow certain patterns, is the day you start killing what makes metal inherently attractive...it should never have rules....that's goes against everything it stands for....true there are basic ingredients that make metal "metal"....but beyond those basic things, a band should be able to do whatever the hell they want......true Metallica made "Mama Said", but Sabbath also made "Changes".....what it all comes down to is the fact that Metallica revolutionized all pre-conceived notions about metal and took it to an entirely different level.....they influenced just about everyone....metal most likely wouldn't even exist without them....will the next album rule?.....we'll see.....i'm optimistic....later mutha muchachos........
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COMMENT | fuck you lars
posted by :
7/24/2007 4:25:12 PM
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lars, "uhhhh i think this is the best album we have ever done"
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