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MATT SORUM Says New METALLICA Songs Are 'Sick' And 'Crazy Fast' With Lots Of 'Tempo Changes'
- July 25, 2007
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METALLICA is hard at work on its next album with producer Rick Rubin, and at least one person outside the band has heard the songs: VELVET REVOLVER drummer Matt Sorum. He tells RollingStone.com, " Lars [ Ulrich, METALLICA drummer] is a good friend of mine. He played me the demos from San Francisco, and I turned and looked at him and I said, 'Master that shit and put it out.' It's ridiculous. The demos were sick. Eight-minute songs, all these tempo changes, crazy fast. It's like, 'Dude, don't get slower when you get older, but don't get faster!? How are you gonna play this live?' And then me and Lars were out partying all night, and he had to go in the studio the next day and do this stupid like nine- or ten-minute song, and I was laughing at him — because he played me the demo of it, and it was [sings really fast drum part], so fast. I called him, and said, 'Dude, how are you feeling?' He was like, 'Dude, I'm hurting.' They're cutting everything to tape, no fuckin' ProTools — live, no clicks. Bitchin'. I dig it. I'm really excited for them."
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COMMENT |
posted by : 5142
7/25/2007 6:37:32 PM
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Just Like Riotact666....Matt Sorum is a Poser!!!!
Asskisser still the end....
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/25/2007 6:37:45 PM
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kick ass
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/25/2007 6:38:06 PM
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Wicked, First post!
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COMMENT | Awesome
posted by :
7/25/2007 6:38:14 PM
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I cannot wait for the new Metallica album, they absolutely kicked ass at Wembley a few week ago, a brilliant set. Glad to hear they're making a move back to the old school fast and thrashy stuff.
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COMMENT | hmmm
posted by : spunkee311
7/25/2007 6:38:27 PM
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I hardly doubt that
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/25/2007 6:38:34 PM
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Damn, I retract that
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COMMENT | savage animal
posted by : spunkee311
7/25/2007 6:38:59 PM
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your more like 3rd post
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COMMENT | hmm
posted by : great success
7/25/2007 6:40:22 PM
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sounds like they might be heading in the right direction to make one last good album
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COMMENT |
posted by : SlayerFan287
7/25/2007 6:44:28 PM
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Sorry Matt, I don't speak Dudespeak, try again with more English.
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COMMENT | Too Much Hype
posted by : piggy
7/25/2007 6:54:02 PM
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There is NO WAY the new Metallica album will be able to live up to all the hype. People are building it up to be some sort of masterpiece and it will probably be forgettable like St. Anger.
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COMMENT | well...
posted by : fondula
7/25/2007 6:54:36 PM
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What I want, more than a bunch of fast songs, is an album where all the songs aren't the same. St. Anger had fast songs, some of them even decent. Problem is, they all felt the same which made the album get boring if you listened to it all the way through. The last few Metallica albums containing original material seemed to have a set formula for a song to follow, and then every single track followed that formula. Metallica needs an album that has an ebb and flow to it, something that keeps you listening all the way through and not knowing what the next song is going to sound like.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/25/2007 6:55:24 PM
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funny how the so called 1st posters are way in the back of the line!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!
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COMMENT | Back to our roots....
posted by : Mechanix84
7/25/2007 7:07:11 PM
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these songs are long-ah...
and there are fast parts...
so that automatically-means-that-they're-good!!!
:D
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COMMENT | No click track?
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:14:04 PM
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Tape is fine. No Pro-Tools - possible, if they practice everyday 5 hours a day at least. And even then it might not sound very tight. Their "live" performances usually does not "cut it" under scrutiny as compared to the studio versions. They have always used to edit their music heavily in the studio, up to "Metallica" album (their most successful catalogue). By far, they'd spend more time on editing/production than on playing the actual songs... and that's what made them stand out from the rest in terms of quality up until 90's.
But no click track? Oh my...
I'm a bit worried now. I mean - even "...And Justice For All" is recorded seemingly without the click, but they worked on the songs for years, perfecting it and cut the tape unceremoniously to achieve that "tight" effect.
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COMMENT | www.blackviolin.com
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:26:01 PM
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Dude, they worked on AJFA for 8 weeks, thats all.......
\M/etallica rules
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COMMENT | No way.
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:34:13 PM
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They practiced the songs on "...And Justice For All" for years. How long it took them to actually record - 8 weeks? Possible. I do not know (I am not their manager). However, I do strongly believe that even if it took them to record the actual songs a couple of weeks - they spent months on editing/pre-post production (if not years).
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:35:41 PM
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well that gives me hope...not faith but hope
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COMMENT | Yes but..
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:39:57 PM
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Alot of the songs on St Anger had tempo changes and were fast.
That said, I believe that this time around Metallica is gonna copy Trivium (what an irony) rather than System of a Down.
Ok, I'm only kidding, but wouldn't that be funny!
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COMMENT | And if matt sorum says so, then it must be true!
posted by : Dissident^
7/25/2007 7:40:30 PM
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Don't make me laugh!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:41:36 PM
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There is a two year "gap" after Cliff's death (R.I.P) and release of "...And Justice For All" - no?
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COMMENT |
posted by : HORRORHOLIC
7/25/2007 7:42:31 PM
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I have hope for this album
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COMMENT | ..
posted by : madkinski
7/25/2007 7:42:59 PM
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"than it must kick ass....puh-leaze.That guy has played in two of the most annoying bands to ever come out. Yes, Guns n Roses & Velvet Revolver."
Sorum wasn't in Yes, that was Alan White and Bill Bruford.
Oh wait, you kids don't get that joke. Silly me.
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COMMENT | I get the joke
posted by :
7/25/2007 7:45:21 PM
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Anyway, he was also in the Cult, so he's already familar with Rick Rubin somewhat.
Btw, anyone ever notice the similarity to the Cult's Electric and Danzig's self titled. I never heard the Cult's album until recently, and the similarities are startling at times.
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COMMENT |
posted by : tenplex
7/25/2007 8:13:22 PM
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Sounds good...
Of course this is also coming from Matt Sorum's opinions which is like getting getting war opinions from George Bush, not quite accurate.
Matt Sorum has 2 different tempo changes in his whole career of drumming so adding a 3rd or 4th tempo change, of course he would shit himself. Not to mention he only has 1 drum fill for every song. His opinion is shit. Now if someone with some talent said something like that, it would be incredible.
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COMMENT | Matt Sorum
posted by :
7/25/2007 8:17:28 PM
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Matt is not a fast drummer and I'm gonna stereotype him as not a fan of Nile or anything that is actually fast. I therefore have to conclude that Matt's version of "Fast" is anything slightly faster than Gun's N Roses and or anything not slower than Velvet Revolver.
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COMMENT | believe
posted by :
7/25/2007 8:31:10 PM
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Old school thrash is back (but really never went away)...Metallica, Testament, Exodus, Overkill, Slayer, and Megadeth are alive and well and are presently kicking and...will be soon kicking your asses again! Believe me- thrash rules and always will- fuck the cookie monsters!
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COMMENT | i've ignored Metallica since the Black album
posted by : And Then There Were None
7/25/2007 8:36:36 PM
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but for some crazy reason, i have a glimmer of hope that there will be solid thrashing parts on the new disc.
now if James can just go back to barking his vocals instead of singing like Cher.
cheers.
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COMMENT | well...
posted by :
7/25/2007 8:40:20 PM
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MATT SORUM is not by any means a "good drummer". he is a simple tap-drummer, and i'm pretty sure that my playing is faster than his. but I have heard "The New Song", and it is pretty cool. try looking it up, i have the 06/06/06 recording in berlin, and it's one of the best metallica songs i've heard, in my opinion
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COMMENT | thanks
posted by :
7/25/2007 8:40:46 PM
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thanks whiplashed....the kings are back
(and exodus will destroy too)
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COMMENT | what!!!
posted by :
7/25/2007 8:45:56 PM
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4-5 good albums per??? i can personally vouch that rush has over 10 good albums, and the only megadeth album that i thought was poor was "risk". and as for van halen, except for van halen 3, every one is good
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COMMENT | Duh
posted by :
7/25/2007 8:59:37 PM
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Matt Sorum was paid to say that
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COMMENT | Old school thrash?
posted by :
7/25/2007 9:02:54 PM
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Don't forget Kreator
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COMMENT | hmm..
posted by :
7/25/2007 9:13:08 PM
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I really want to believe that the next Metallica album will be great.. but this kind of hype is exactly the same as the hype that surrounded St. Anger before that came out.. OOO LONG SONGS.. FAST.. BACK TO THE OLD SCHOOL... yeah, and it was a load of SHIITE. I hope this isn't St. Anger part 2 - Lars turns his snare drum on and kirk plays a solo
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COMMENT | Crazy Fast?
posted by :
7/25/2007 9:26:58 PM
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So Mick Harris plays blast beats through the entire album?
haha
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COMMENT | tempo changes...
posted by : spacelord81
7/25/2007 9:30:39 PM
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WOW! can Lars even handle tempo changes?
i kid, i kid...theres plenty of that shit on the old albums.
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COMMENT | Scorpions? BWA HAHAHAA
posted by :
7/25/2007 9:32:52 PM
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The Scorpions have been off the map for years and will never get back on it.
Like it or not haters, 'Tallica still sells out arenas and stadiums everywhere they go. 50,000, 70,000 people. Argue that point assholes.
Good to know at least Sorum shows respect. He knows good stuff even if his own band can't bust out heavy shit.
METALLICA !!!!
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COMMENT | 35 years?
posted by :
7/25/2007 9:45:33 PM
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I thought they were 40 years old. Scorps started in 1965 (per website), then again, you could say they were just a name of a British Invasion group Rudi Schenker was in and not the "Real Scorpions". However, if you count that original band, it makes them the oldest heavy metal band alive!
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COMMENT | Btw
posted by :
7/25/2007 9:46:49 PM
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The Scorpions started most of the conventions of modern guitar solos in metal with their guitarist, Uli Jon Roth, one of the first shredders. Get a fuckin clue. (firewind being a solo album of his).
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COMMENT | Tempo changes? AWESOME!!!!
posted by :
7/25/2007 10:12:20 PM
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120 BPM to 125 BPM!!! That is so metal!
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COMMENT |
posted by : djent
7/25/2007 10:18:15 PM
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"sick, crazy fast, and lots of tempo changes"
... so Metallica is covering Necrophagist and Meshuggah?
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COMMENT | metallica are sad old news
posted by : cementfilled
7/25/2007 10:23:56 PM
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metallica lost their greatness once cliff burton tragically died. he was what made them truly metal. once he was gone they went slowly downhill (for true oldschool fans). fuck them
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COMMENT | a question for Matt
posted by :
7/25/2007 10:38:02 PM
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ARE THEY?! ARE THEY REALLY?!
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COMMENT | Whenever a band says...
posted by : FDH
7/25/2007 10:53:48 PM
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We're going back to our roots, blah, blah, blah. What that REALLY means is that they're out of riffs, they know that the fans think they suck, so they LIE and say "We're going back to our roots, blah, blah, fucking blah".
Cementfilled, who posted that they've never been the same since Cliff died is absolutely right.
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COMMENT | Of course!
posted by :
7/25/2007 11:13:34 PM
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Can't let Megadeth and Testament steal the show.
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COMMENT | All the haters will have no choice but to bow.....
posted by :
7/25/2007 11:33:34 PM
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LARS=METAL!!!!!
It's true.
That is all.
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COMMENT | I wouldn't Bitch as Much...
posted by :
7/25/2007 11:46:05 PM
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If they did a heavy and faster album earlier instead of after Megadeth did 2 faster and heavy albums. And with Testament returning with a new CD and how much the fans love the new Megadeth with thrash and solos and playing classic thrash set lists... It makes me wonder are they really doing it for themselves or for us fans?
Or they just doing it for their own egos so they can once again laugh in Dave's face and stay on top of all the other great thrash bands?
... Plus with alot of the new reactions of the past Metallica albums and The newest Megadeth, Slayer, Overkill albums... true Metal heads seem to be jumping to the other sides. If this album was as shitty as St. Anger we all know the next album they do after that one would not have fans so eager to get and hear VS the wonder and hopes of the next Megadeth Album in 2008/2009.
The Big Four as of now should be:
Testament
Megadeth
Exodus
Overkill
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COMMENT | Matt Sorum puts me to sleep
posted by :
7/26/2007 12:03:42 AM
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He seems like a coold due but his drumming makes Lars Ulrich sound like Neal Peart
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COMMENT |
posted by : rds
7/26/2007 12:10:58 AM
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ANYTHING FASTER THEN MATT SORUM'S PLAYING IS BOUND TO BE "SICK and CRAZY FAST" TO BAD THAT IT'S SHITALLICA
BUMMER!!!
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COMMENT | Definition:
posted by : ThirdEyeOpen13
7/26/2007 12:16:16 AM
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"Sick," "crazy fast," and "tempo changes" sounds like ol' Matt was having flashbacks of some stank ass groupie who has "mastered that shit and put it out."
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COMMENT |
posted by : pigchop
7/26/2007 12:29:23 AM
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we shall see.
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COMMENT |
posted by : wooten
7/26/2007 1:11:24 AM
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Some people on here are already crying because they think they'll be proven wrong if Metallica go back to the older style. Already saying they're doing it because Megadeth got heavier and Testament are writing a new heavy record. I hate to break the news, both those bands (whom I love) tried to follow in the Black album footsteps back in the 90's. Megadeth, well, theirs is obvious, and Testament with The Ritual (shorter, more mid-tempo tunes). Both hoping for radio play.
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COMMENT |
posted by : PickHarmonic
7/26/2007 2:56:26 AM
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This album is going to suck
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COMMENT | Rob Trujillo...
posted by :
7/26/2007 3:16:04 AM
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is responsible for getting metallica back on track.
i told you.
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COMMENT | oh, & also, tenplex...
posted by :
7/26/2007 3:20:49 AM
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is spot on.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/26/2007 4:32:43 AM
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I dont think you should be so hard towards Sorum, he did play on a Buddy Rich tribute album thou.....
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/26/2007 4:32:45 AM
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I dont think you should be so hard towards Sorum, he did play on a Buddy Rich tribute album thou.....
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COMMENT | Whimps and posers
posted by :
7/26/2007 5:04:57 AM
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I cant' believe someone espects that this will be "old Metallica" record. Face it, Metallica is dead, anybody remembers "Load", "Reload" and "St.Anger"? I'm Metallica fan for over 20 years now, but the thrill is gone, years pased, and I think that this new cd will be the real selout". If you're not feeling "thrash" anymore, why are you still trying to put yourself in the "thrash mood". Be honest and real. thrash or not.
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COMMENT | ^^^^^^
posted by :
7/26/2007 5:59:53 AM
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Dont you get it? Thats why they made all those albums they did, cuz they wanted to do them, cuz that was the type off music they wanted to do, you cant get much more "real" than that in the music world. Oh, and how about waiting to the new album comes out before you judge it? Metallica still rules, if you had seen them live this year then you would know that.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/26/2007 6:16:25 AM
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its coming.....
the haters will always bash but this will probobly stuff their 3 inches of blood albums down their throats...
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COMMENT | yahoo the boys are back
posted by :
7/26/2007 7:01:39 AM
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its time they show how its done
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COMMENT | Mechanix84
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest
7/26/2007 7:29:16 AM
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Double bass-ah!
:D
www.thelisteningsessions.com/mp3/MattSmith-St.AngerTribute.mp3
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COMMENT | wooten
posted by : Das Schuetzenfest
7/26/2007 8:06:31 AM
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You're perfectly right - and both albums, Countdown To Extinction and The Ritual, are better than the black album.
As for Matt Sorum: Well, as soon as Tomas Haake, Bobby Jarzombek and Mike Portnoy start to praise the new "'tallica" demos and Lars' drumming, I'll get my hopes up. But Ulrich recording in the studio without a click track sounds like a bad idea, considering his live performances... Lars Ulrich is no Nicko McBrain.
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COMMENT |
posted by : snajper
7/26/2007 9:58:11 AM
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But, is it "Behemoth"-fast or "Velvet Revolver"-fast?
Seriously, St. Anger 2 is coming..
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COMMENT | pfft
posted by : Hardcore666
7/26/2007 10:25:03 AM
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sounds like the same hype before st anger was released to me
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COMMENT |
posted by : RiotAct666
7/26/2007 10:33:01 AM
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Awesome! I wanna hear it all.
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COMMENT | Metallica!
posted by :
7/26/2007 11:05:56 AM
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The number of posts in this thread reflects the fact, they they are alive and well. I don't understand why "Load", 'Reload" sucks - they are brilliant albums but "not metal enough" in opinion of haters/bashers - and not being thrash metal does not mean it sucks, does it? (Or maybe you have of your own definition of sucking? Well, don't share it with your girlfriends :P)
for x in {Metallica, Megadeth, Behemoth, Paradise Lost, Therion} do
all hail $x;
done
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COMMENT | FUCKIN RITE!
posted by :
7/26/2007 11:56:55 AM
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YES. THIS BAND FUGGIN ROX! I hope its better than St. Anger. It sounds like it. Fast and a lot of tempo changes sounds awesum 2 me.
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COMMENT | does Sorum know anything about thrash?
posted by :
7/26/2007 1:04:34 PM
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Really?
The guy has been in poser bands all his life, what does he know of fast music?
Have him listen to Kreator 'Pleasure to kill' an see if he survives it ;0)
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COMMENT | The truth....
posted by :
7/26/2007 2:08:40 PM
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Hey Ministry of Anarchy, "Nutswinging"? That's some funny shit.
Matt is probably just a nice guy who's talking about his famous friend's new work. The new material could be anything and he'd say the same thing, "It's sick" It's probably an over-hyped dissapointment for fans who'd like to see a band reattain it's former glory as an intelligent Thrash band. Instead, we will probably hear misdirected, corny sounding stuff.
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COMMENT | LARS CLICK TRACK LARS CLICK TRACK LARS CLICK TRACK
posted by : superior
7/26/2007 2:18:35 PM
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What a bunch of losers...Lars absolutely cannot play drums without a click track. This is 100% true. He has definite timing problems and either speeds up or slows down. So they give a demo to Matt sorum so he starts talking about how good it is. What a load of shit. They are so desperate because they know they have lost their fan base
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COMMENT | Metallica is bigger than you
posted by :
7/26/2007 3:09:39 PM
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Oh the haters...so sad...does it make you feel any better when you trash a band that has had more success than most other bands combined...I guess so because their are so many of you.
Can't wait to hear the new album!
Metallica are amazing and continue to kick ass!!
"For whom the Bell Tolls - it tolls for thee!!"
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COMMENT | One good sign you guys
posted by :
7/26/2007 3:49:41 PM
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Recall that James Hetfield has pretty much disowned St Anger at this point (recent interviews), and the whole band has hinted at regrets of their relationship with Bob Rock.
Not much, but may be enough to go on.
Rick Rubin helped produce some of the best albums ever recorded, Danzig and Slayer
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COMMENT | ^^
posted by :
7/26/2007 5:11:52 PM
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I don't think they regret the relationship they had with Bob Rock,I do think they're starting to understand that they stuck with him too long and they should've changed sooner.
I'm a Metallica fan to the bones and honestly,I think this album is going to be a huge let down for those expecting it to be as they're claiming and now Matt Sorum about it being this return to their roots.
If this album doesn't deliver I'm preparing to put my Metallica hat as far as new material goes on the shelf,not to say I'd refuse to see them live but as far as new material I don't see myself bothering to get something that's at the very least better than what they've done since Load (which is better than Black IMO)
I hope this album is a wake up call to Metallica.
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COMMENT | So then....
posted by : BillSteersNostril
7/26/2007 5:47:12 PM
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I said, "Dude! That's fast!"
And he said "Dude! Yeaah!"
And I said, "Dude! You must be hurtin'"
And he said, "Dude, not really. Ive James cock in my ass... Its not that big"
And I said, "Dude!....
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COMMENT | Eagleheart85
posted by :
7/26/2007 9:04:19 PM
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Well, my personal taste is that I am enthralled by the first four Danzig albums. I mean, if it weren't for Rubin, Danzig wouldn't be a household name. Samhain and Misfits were big mind you, but Rubin gave him that extra push to become such a good singer. Just listen to "You and Me" from Less Than Zero and compare it to Samhain's November Coming Fire. Night and day difference vocal quality wise (Though I love both).
I have quite an open mind already, I just consider Rubin special for those first four Danzig albums, and everyone worships Reign In Blood (though Ironically I prefer Hell Awaits).
I have hope that Metallica are actually doing what they said they were.
But, yeah they said that before Saint Anger, and that had many long songs as well.
I think that James (as seen on Some Kind of Monster) considered Bob Rock to be part of the "business" side of things, and to be loose of him (he didn't seem to favor him as much recently) might free the band to go back to their roots. We all know that Rubin has reinstigated the careers of many. Lets hope that he goes back to his old days as a metal producer (though not back to his hip hop days hopefully) and produces a quality product with Metallica.
Bob Rock did a fine job with the Black Album (Though its in essence a sell out) but the guys didn't seem to happy with his job on Saint Anger (Referencing James and Kirk interviews the past couple of months).
The only thing that worries me is, these guys live in a bubble, and does "going back to your roots" only mean you go back to the NWOBHM roots and not to the progress thats been made in metal since then?
It could very well be more thrashy, but I would almost hope that it WAS UPDATED in a certain respect with more neo classical flourishes or indeed the phrygian influence Kirk spoke about.
Back to the Euro metal thing again, like they got into on Ride the Lightning, but UPDATED.
Kind of like Tempo of the Damned and Enemy of God, but not like United Abominations (sorry guys).
And if they're actually "progressive" I'll be surprised, but in a "Justice" way, that'd be great.
I have a feeling its going to be like Queensryche's Operation Mindecrime II, still sounding too modern (in a more lame way) but having a few flourishes from the past. I hope not, I pray not, but then again, I'd rather go listen to Kreator or even some other underground thrash bands nowadays anyway.
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COMMENT | Hah!
posted by :
7/26/2007 10:14:24 PM
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"Have him listen to Kreator 'Pleasure to kill' an see if he survives it ;0)"
You said it, man. KREATOR KILLS!
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COMMENT | Hmm...
posted by : ledmetacdc
7/26/2007 11:47:49 PM
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Sounds cool. Screw you guys for turning your backs on them. I'm sorry, but MOP and AJFA, well...That will never, ever happen again. Its not gonna. So just take what you get. Personally, I thought that some tracks on St.Anger were fine. Frantic was pretty damn cool if you ask me. Quit bitching and start LISTENING!
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COMMENT |
posted by :
7/27/2007 6:08:49 PM
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They need to release one damn song, hopefully a good one. Waiting is becoming lame quickly.
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