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GENE SIMMONS: 'There Is Nothing In Me That Wants To Go In There And Do New Music'
- Nov. 12, 2007
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Billboard magazine recently conducted an interview with KISS bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons. A few excerpts from the chat follow: Billboard: You've got the third series of the "Kissology" DVD coming out next month. Is there much more we can expect coming? Simmons: There'll be 10. No one — and that includes THE BEATLES and ELVIS — can touch our ( KISS') merchandising and licensing. Nobody. Outside of the music world, it's only Disney and Lucas. But in the music world, they can't shine our shoes. Billboard: Any touring plans? Simmons: We'll tour a few dates next year. We don't have anything to prove to anybody or do press to convince anybody we're important. We're doing KISS festivals around the Indy car racing series. Simmons Abramson Marketing markets and brands Indy cars. I came up with the I Am Indy brand, by the way. They go on the night before. We'll do 15 dates or so. We'll also go to Australia and New Zealand and maybe to four to six shows — but nothing comprehensive until we feel like it. Billboard: It has been nine years since we've seen a new KISS album. Any plans to get back into the studio? Simmons: The record industry is in such a mess. I called for what it was when college kids first started download music for free — that they were crooks. I told every record label I spoke with that they just lit the fuse to their own bomb that was going to explode from under them and put them on the street. There is nothing in me that wants to go in there and do new music. How are you going to deliver it? How are you going to get paid for it if people can just get it for free? I will be putting out a Gene Simmons box set called "Monster" — a collection of 150 unreleased songs. KISS will have another box set of unreleased music in the next year. The record industry doesn't have a f*cking clue how to make money. It's only their fault for letting foxes get into the henhouse and then wondering why there's no eggs or chickens. Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid's face should have been sued off the face of the earth. They should have taken their houses and cars and nipped it right there in the beginning. Those kids are putting 100,000 to a million people out of work. How can you pick on them? They've got freckles. That's a crook. He may as well be wearing a bandit's mask. Doesn't affect me. But imagine being a new band with dreams of getting on stage and putting out your own record. Forget it. Billboard: But some artist like RADIOHEAD and Trent Reznor are trying to find a new business model. Simmons: That doesn't count. You can't pick on one person as an exception. And that's not a business model that works. I open a store and say "Come on in and pay whatever you want." Are you on f*cking crack? Do you really believe that's a business model that works? Billboard: So what if music just becomes free and artists make their living off of touring and merchandise? Simmons: Well, therein lies the most stupid mistake anybody can make. The most important part is the music. Without that, why would you care? Even the idea that you're considering giving the music away for free makes it easier to give it away for free. The only reason why gold is expensive is because we all agree that it is. There's no real use for it, except we all agree and abide by the idea that gold costs a certain amount per ounce. As soon as you give people the choice to deviate from it, you have chaos and anarchy. And that's what going on. Read the entire interview at Billboard.biz.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:11:13 PM
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Say what you want about Gene Simmons, but in this article, he is dead right.
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COMMENT | And...
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:12:59 PM
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Let the bashing begin in 3...2...1
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:18:22 PM
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Stealing is wrong, but I still think this is a little harsh:
"Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid's face should have been sued off the face of the earth. They should have taken their houses and cars and nipped it right there in the beginning".
If I were to steal a cd, that is 15 bucks. So sue for 15 fucking bucks or give me some criminal charges for theft, but taking a house, car, and sued off the face of the earth? C'mon.
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COMMENT | New KISS
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:27:07 PM
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If KISS recorded a new album I would go out and buy it. I dont download anything because A its illegal, and B sound quality stinks and C I like owning a record/cd/lp whatever. I have been collecting music for 20 years and I will always enjoy buying cds, and lps. I bought the Kissology 1 and 2 dvd sets at best buy and threw out my old vhs copies. I think the 70s style KISS probably shouldnt record any new music but an the Eric Singer/Bruce Kulick lineup could put out a badass new album that sounds like Revenge or Asylum
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COMMENT | Once again, What it all comes down to!!!!!!!!!
posted by : Lorn
11/12/2007 8:27:15 PM
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Is that WE ARE SICK OF CORPORATE SUIT ASSHOLES getting outrageous amounts of money. METALHEADS SUPPORT THE BANDS, but not these greedy middlemen suits. I love buying stuff online from unsigned bands who make their own cds and PROFIT from the money I give them for their cd (and I love and prefer cds, with artwork, lyrics, etc., not downloading shit). If the corporate bullshit suits wants to turn things around, then DROP THE FUCKING PRICES and put out better quality shit. Otherwise, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, legal or not, bands and fans are going to keep finding ways around you greedy suit fuckers who blew everyones trust. END OF STORY! END OF FUCKING STORY!!
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COMMENT | Gene speaks the truth
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:29:23 PM
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Gene knows what he is talking about. a little over the top, but this is his business, so he can be
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COMMENT | NO,.,., END OF THE STORY IS:
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:33:41 PM
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STEALING SOMEONE'S CREATIVE OUTPUT IS A CRIMINAL ACT AND IT HAS KILLED THE MUSIC BUSINESS.
IT'S MY CREATION AND I'LL SELL A COPY TO YOU.
WHAT PART DON'T YOU GET?
METALLICA WAS RIGHT!
SIMMONS IS RIGHT. SUE THE BASTIDS.
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COMMENT |
posted by : 5142
11/12/2007 8:42:20 PM
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Simmons is a total douche bag...
if can't starve for your music...
then you need find another line of work...
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COMMENT | Fuck Gene Simmons
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:50:06 PM
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Kiss Inc has spoken now your starting to sound like Metalica a bunch of money hungry greedy assholes.I have never liked kiss there music sucks and this is one big reason why I don't like kiss.They put there likeness on everything from coffee mugs to coffins just so they can make a buck.Corperate America at its worst.I rather listen to groups like the Eagles and really good bands like Black Sabbath among others.But kiss can kiss my non stealing ass.Get with the time you old fart this is a new generation new century and we BUY are music differently then what we use to and we don't have to steal
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COMMENT | I AM INDY...
posted by :
11/12/2007 8:52:09 PM
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You came up with that all by yourself did ya Gene. Are you sure? Sounds very, very familiar to the Molson Canadian Beer ad campaign from a few years back. You know the I AM CANADIAN commercials. Gene has been to Canada more than a few times and would have heard that. Doesn't surprises me, KISS stole riffs from everyone, why not a few ad campaigns.
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posted by : Brutal Judgement
11/12/2007 8:56:39 PM
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The music business is suffering...hahahaha
There are more tours than ever. Music in games,movies,ringtones...tons of new revenue sources.
And actually,DLing has helped in the way that bootleggers have been run out of business. Which means more money for fans to actually spend.
There always have been tapes for copies. And do you think some kid with 20,000 MP3s would,or even could buy all that? So,how are they "loosing" money? And no one ever mentions music stores selling used CDs,which make the artists and companies no money. nevertheless all the promo copies that DJs and such sell to music stores that sell them.
This is just like the movie industry complaining about DLing,while having a record year. And most people know that BANDS have always made their money with merch,so that is nothing new. And with all the new types in income streams,there is no need to worry about DLing more than audio cassettes or people copying CDs.
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posted by : [M]ark [MOD]ern
11/12/2007 8:57:50 PM
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STEALING SOMEONE'S CREATIVE OUTPUT IS A CRIMINAL ACT AND IT HAS KILLED THE MUSIC BUSINESS.
IT'S MY CREATION AND I'LL SELL A COPY TO YOU.
WHAT PART DON'T YOU GET?
METALLICA WAS RIGHT!
SIMMONS IS RIGHT. SUE THE BASTIDS.
Theft is theft...weather you're wearing a ski mask, holding a gun, or stealing music.
Art is dying
HELP KEEP ART ALIVE!!! BUY MUSIC! SEE CONCERTS & BUY MERCH frm bands!
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COMMENT | 10 KI$$OLOGY BOX SETS?!?!?!?!?
posted by : Brother Maynard
11/12/2007 9:05:18 PM
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Is there really that much material to release? And just how many of those would be worth it?
As far as new material goes, Gene knows that the best(?) of his and their career is long behind them and that anything they put out will never match up to the glory days of the 1970s. Also, why put out new material when there's so much cash in retroKI$$. KI$$ is 2 steps shy of becomming a Las Vegas lounge act as it is. It's the perfect nostaligic business model in that it can be revisited time and time again without losing any of it's charm. There are plenty of pretenders who'd love the chance to play dress up, make some cash and pretend they're KI$$ every night. Plus, Gene and Paul are nearing 60 and there's only so much make-up in the world.
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posted by : aaron.
11/12/2007 9:06:11 PM
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every download is not a lost sale.
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posted by : aaron.
11/12/2007 9:09:37 PM
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brutal judgment nailed it pretty much.
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COMMENT | Gene is washed up. Period.
posted by : THRASHMONGER
11/12/2007 9:12:00 PM
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He says 'There Is Nothing In Me That Wants To Go In There And Do New Music.' OF COURSE NOT. Because his new music doesn't sell, and this guy is ONLY about the bottom line. Psycho Circus sold well initially because it was *supposed* to be a new KISS album, but it really wasn't - Way more studio musicians than members, uber-commercial production, and the world subsequently responded with a resounding YAWN. And his own solo CD sold HOW many copies? Not even a blip on the screen.
BUT IN THIS ARTICLE, he says he doesn't want to create new music because there's no way for the labels to deliver it, it'll just get "stolen" (which is entirely true, and I back him on that - Theft is theft, and douchefucks who steal music should get the fucking chair) - But he's putting out MASSIVE collections of OLD Kiss and Gene material - It's a true testament to the state of affairs - I wish he would just man up and admit that he's great at marketing, and still is, but his musical "talent" is long gone outside of performing his sad nostiagic schtick. So there's nothing that makes him want to do NEW music because it'll get stolen, but the new stuff, of course he'll flog that dad horse for years to come...
It's too bad too, because as much as I love to hate this guy, I have to admit, he's become a hell of a bassist over the years.
Will I buy the KISS box? Hell yes. That bastard...
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COMMENT | Either you like him , or just palin hate him
posted by : RiotAct666
11/12/2007 9:15:39 PM
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Gene is spot on in that interview. He is a rock legend and you are not. Looking forward to kissology vol. 3 next month , and a new album and tour too.
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COMMENT | Simmons sells Simmons...
posted by :
11/12/2007 9:18:49 PM
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That's funny. I have several lots of albums from Kiss catalogue, most of them, in vynil. Question: didn't I already paid for the music if I want to download it in digital format? Since Kiss didn't released nothing new in years, how many more versions of the same shit-beated stuff they want to force down my throat? CD, DVD, Blue Ray...what's next to strip us from our saves (the casket shot was amazing). There's an line in a Bruce Dickinson's song, Sacred Cowboys, that says "you can get all the things you never needed/you can sell people crap and make them eat it". This line flashes in my mind every time I hear about Gene Simmons and Kiss. The fact is, I don't want to buy the "200th live version of that same Kiss song" or "Farewell Tour vol. XXIII". If they put out some good new stuff, I'll buy it; if don't, thanks, but, no, thanks. 10 volumes of Kissology is a little too much for my stomach. Another funny thing in this article is Mr. G saying that the important part of it is the music itself. Everybody knows he's not a musician in the strict sense of the word. He is a good seller, but right now, he is he's clueless of how to sell his shit.
By the way, can you figure out rock'n'roll without chaos and anarchy??? lol
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COMMENT | 'There Is Nothing In Me That Wants To Go In There And Do New Music'
posted by : spaztekmofo
11/12/2007 9:27:10 PM
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HAHA Obviously - He needs to play bass first !
Fuck you Gene !
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/12/2007 9:30:15 PM
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God this guy is such an arrogant cock- he just has the answer to everything doesn't he?
Q- So Greed- tell us why 15th century French cabinet makers are superior to the contemporary Visigoths who were experimenting with toungue and groove joints and early forms of varnish?
A- Well, it's like this- the French are far superior because they knew how to make money. It doesn't matter that their work fell apart in a year, it matters that they got paid. By the way, I have never been drunk and I sleep with women.
What a rude, greedy, cheesy, arrogant cock- no wonder Paul Stanley can't stand to be in the same room as this clown.
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COMMENT | Hmmm!
posted by : Bladdermouth
11/12/2007 9:33:49 PM
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150 Gene Simmons unreleased songs which were never good enough to make it on any of his crappy solo albums???.... NO THANKS!
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COMMENT | $immons
posted by : I Was An Accident Of Birth At The Chemical Wedding
11/12/2007 9:36:20 PM
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If Gene doesn't want to make a new album because a bunch of teenagers download, that's pretty dumb. They're not going to buy his albums anyway. His fans will buy any and all new albums.
That being said, he' right about a lot of what he said.
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COMMENT | ^^
posted by :
11/12/2007 10:21:07 PM
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^^ Agreed.
Since when is making good music dependent upon getting paid? Does he REALLY need financial income as a motivator - the guy could buy a fucking SMALL COUNTRY with his weath.
If the man had a decent song left in him he'd waltz into the studio tomorrow and bust it out. But alas, he's got more important things to tend to...
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COMMENT |
posted by : Nespithe
11/12/2007 10:26:14 PM
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Sorry, Gene, but Elvis makes more money dead than Kiss ever made alive.
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COMMENT | Remind me again why anybody would admire this asshole
posted by : Hammerlock
11/12/2007 10:36:24 PM
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And pay him shitloads of money for just sitting on his ass dreaming up new ways to make money off of suckers like you?
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COMMENT | Kiss Still Rules
posted by : ComaOfSouls
11/12/2007 10:36:34 PM
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translation to all bashing comments: you all wish you were Gene Simmons
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COMMENT | What?!?!?
posted by : Dazed&Confused
11/12/2007 10:37:13 PM
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Really Gene? What did you expect people to do? Should we continue to pay anywhere from $15 - $20 for a CD that costs pennies to make? Instead of labels throwing away money left and right (useless promo, schmoozing dinners, overpaid executives who know nothing), the prices of disks would come down. People might actually begin to buy again if CD's were reasonably priced. But you know what Gene...too fucking late. The music industry has had their head up their ass for so long...they are now fucked. I will always support small labels and independent bands. I will always buy merch from an independent band if I like them. Every month there are smaller labels out there who are turning "digital" only. They realize that CD's are going the way of the fucking cassette. Don't believe me, check the G7 Welcoming Committee record label site. Also, regarding Radiohead. What they have accomplished was great with the new release. Give it a few years to iron out the kinks Gene..this will be the future. I would say it is a matter of time before labels start offering FLAC versions of their music online for purchase. One last thing, there is also a recent Canadian study that proves the more people download, the more music they buy. Google it fucker!
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COMMENT | Isn't it weird...
posted by :
11/12/2007 10:53:18 PM
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...how nobody thinks TWICE about downloading Porn Movies, but the industry is still standing? Be honest... how many of you have Porn on your hard-drive? Did you physically walk into the smut-store, slam your fist on the counter, demand that copy of "Anus Academy III: Dude, Where's My Pancreas?" and fork over cold, hard cash for it?
Just a little something to think about. I wrote a whole essay about downloading, Porn Movies and Music, which I'll shamelessly plug here...
http://hellboundsmoker.blogspot.com/2007/11/youd-better-verb-my-adjective-noun-you.html
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COMMENT | Boo Hoo Record Companies
posted by : Suicidalmuthafka
11/12/2007 11:06:36 PM
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It is hard to feel sorry for the record companies that have been ripping us off for years. When cds came out (In the 1980's) they said they would drop in price as technology caught up and made it less expensive to make a compact disc. That never happened. Now it is still 18 dollars for a cd? To make us feel even more abused, We now know the real cost is about 10 cents to burn the cd. If they want to know where to find sympathy, it is in the dictionary between Shit and Syphilis.
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COMMENT | Funny
posted by :
11/12/2007 11:15:26 PM
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It's funny that Gene would say music is the most important part...isn't it the money, Gene? You sure don't seem to mind re-hashing Kiss' past over and over and over.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Ziltoid667
11/12/2007 11:20:28 PM
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"Did you physically walk into the smut-store, slam your fist on the counter, demand that copy of "Anus Academy III: Dude, Where's My Pancreas?" and fork over cold, hard cash for it?"
Sometimes...if that's what it takes.
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COMMENT | Dazed is right
posted by : And Then There Were None
11/12/2007 11:49:14 PM
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butt-fuck the public for 20 years with the price of CDs and one day the public says, "fuck this, fuck you."
if CDs were reasonably priced more people would buy them. myself, i buy 98% of mine used (i'm not a downloader). if new CDs were $10 a pop, i'd buy way more music and everybody would win.
make 'em the price of tapes (remember those), like $5.99-7.99 and no one would fuck around with shitty downloads -- it would be too easy to buy what you love. who wants to fuck around with shitty sample rates, mistitled songs, glitches, no artwork or liner notes, the wait -- fuck the ethics, downloading is a pain in the ass for the poor and the pissed off.
the industry will change and the dinosaurs will go the way of... you figure it out.
and, oh, by the way, Gene, some people make music because they have a passion for their art and want to share it with people who appreciate their art. i know, because dollars isn't part of the question, you can't relate. sorry.
cheers.
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COMMENT | Gene's Speaking In 'Assholes"...
posted by :
11/12/2007 11:52:50 PM
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Gene's upset because he just learned that his solo lp "Asshole" wasn't downloaded or bought!!! I hope KISS fans stop buying the DVD set that have the same concert 2 or 3 times on them..Gene..let's called KISS a band that used to count!!
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COMMENT | Gene's right ...
posted by : abacon
11/12/2007 11:55:07 PM
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the buisness point is well taken. Aside from that, though I went through my KISS phase when I was around six back in the seventies i got over cheese metal about a year later and haven't listened to a KISS song some 20 years since(though I did find his Family Jewels show entertaing and in my modest opinion better than the Osbornes.I'd like to see what his sale figures were for KIss albums made past '83 or so...something tells me graphwise it would look something like steep downward slope. Maybe he's come to the conclusion that creatively speaking, he couldn't bring the goods to satisfy even the most diehard KISS fans,much less tap into a new generation of listeners, at least enough to satisfy his enormous ego, so why bother? Don't belive me, just ask Dr(?). Phill.
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COMMENT | Really?
posted by :
11/12/2007 11:56:41 PM
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Although I did once get a copy of "Caution: Your Ass Is On Fire vol. 5" as a gift, I've never met anybody - since the advent of broadband - who purchased porn. But the weird thing is that a lot of people who are up in arms about downloading music are the same people with 30 Gigs of downloaded porn on their hard-drives.
Don't Porn Stars need to eat too? It's not like cherry-scented anal lube is getting any cheaper, but oddly enough, Rocco Siffredi still makes the fat stacks.
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COMMENT | Gene is 100% Correct
posted by : blackiefan
11/13/2007 12:41:25 AM
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Gene is 100% Correct
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COMMENT | I hate to agree
posted by : edrpz
11/13/2007 1:00:37 AM
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I hate to say it, but Gene has a good point. Yes I know that Gene has a ton of money and doesn't need more. However, think about those bands that are not as well off as Kiss. Think about those who are just getting by.
I am friends with with a few people in metal bands that are from semi famous to very well known. I have heard them all say the same thing. One of these bands is thinking about calling it quits because they can no longer make enough money to live off of. They told me that the only money they made over the past few years was from t-shirt sales and outside investments. They went on to say that downloading free music was leaving them broke.
We are going to see a lot of bands going away soon if something doesnt change soon.
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COMMENT | I'm sick of Gene
posted by : cliffburt
11/13/2007 2:16:43 AM
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Maybe we should buy albums that have one or two good songs and a bunch of filler then hey Gene. I can't stand you anymore,Ace Freley was the main man in that band .... shitfaced he was still miles ahead of you in music ability.
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COMMENT | disney
posted by : okayokay
11/13/2007 2:58:55 AM
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heh, heh, heh
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COMMENT | funny interview
posted by : okayokay
11/13/2007 3:00:41 AM
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and good, good points
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COMMENT | do people wear shirts of their favorite show, online blog? ??
posted by : okayokay
11/13/2007 3:13:52 AM
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songs will become as blogs
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/13/2007 3:55:25 AM
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Best news on Blabbermouth EVER.
Other dream headlines include....
Ozzy- I will never play live or record again.
Metallica - All our albums are available for free download
White Stripes - Killed in bus crash
Creed - To reform and play black metal.
Motorhead - Lemmy loses voice permanently.
WASP – Blackie Lawless fucked like a beast by a bull.
Bullet For My Valentine – Split up prior to release of second album
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COMMENT | I'm assuming you're referring to me as 'online blog' (as opposed to offline blogs)
posted by :
11/13/2007 4:10:52 AM
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I've seen it happen. There were a bunch of them printed out for Mr. Show, including Titannica and Three Times One Minus One shirts. But did you have a point in there somewhere?
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/13/2007 4:53:37 AM
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"Are you on f*cking crack?"
Actually Thom Yorke is always on crack...
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COMMENT | gene
posted by :
11/13/2007 4:54:55 AM
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the ultimate douchebag
amazing how much this guy contradicts himself
"There is nothing in me that wants to go in there and do new music. How are you going to deliver it? How are you going to get paid for it if people can just get it for free?".
OK, SO ITS NOT ABOUT MUSIC, ITS ABOUT GETTING PAID, SO WHY WOULD YOU THEN SAY...
"Well, therein lies the most stupid mistake anybody can make. The most important part is the music. "
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COMMENT | TO BON HALFORD
posted by :
11/13/2007 6:23:16 AM
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Bon, I haven't seen your posts in a while, good to see you're back!
Can't wait to spend money on worthless crap like this "monster" box set (err.. that asshole cd wasn't enough crap already???)
even better the new box set of unreleased shit, this stuff sucked so much back then that it was discarded, so this is a must have!!!
maybe this will include some demo version of some great song like rock and roll all nite!!!
...disgusting...
Kiss sucks big time, they are a joke...
oh, BTW, ACE is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT |
posted by : Kaizer Sedso
11/13/2007 6:56:54 AM
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Cheers VivaLaSlash, I'd never thought of that!!!!cherry scented..ha.Of course Gene has a point but he's the wrong guy to be talking about it because he's blinded by greed!Stealing is wrong, but personally, I've felt ripped off by record companies for years...overpricing, albums with 2 or 3 good tracks, re-releases(blatant rip-off)...people don't have to put up with it now.It's sad...but something needs to change.Theres too many bands nowadays....maybe it's natural bands go under....because they're shite!!!Like a natural cull!!!
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COMMENT | WTF
posted by :
11/13/2007 7:09:22 AM
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Simmons is a Business man first....he dosent care about the music anymore (regardless what he says)...all he cares about is KISS merchandise, money and pussy. And just for being a condescending prick...Im gonna do download destroyer!
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COMMENT | thank god!!!
posted by : #1metalhead
11/13/2007 8:01:03 AM
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we don't have to look forward to new material from these washed up yahoo's.they have never put out anything of musical value,and besides who really wants to see a bunch of old ass seniors try to make it through a never ending farewell tour.kiss sucks always have.
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COMMENT | No new material
posted by :
11/13/2007 8:01:09 AM
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Because Gene is a fat Ron Jeremy look alike slob, who is living off of past glory. Fuck you gene.
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COMMENT |
posted by : metalbearuk
11/13/2007 8:24:38 AM
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I will always buy Kiss albums, but new bands have to improve their product to snare me in the first place.
I buy Kiss albums because I'm a fan and have been for 30 years.
However most new bands have one or two good songs on an album and I don't go near them again having been conned the first time round.
I have boxes and boxes of CD's I don't play, all bought cos reviewers said they were great, but then they got them for nothing.
All this is the record companies own fault, and it's hilarious.
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COMMENT | But that's the catch 22, Gene...
posted by : Kissfan77
11/13/2007 8:48:35 AM
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I've talked to Kiss fans and non-Kiss fans alike...they all agree that if you are a musician and playing a band still (which you are)...you should at least put out some new material whether it be a new song, couple of new songs or an album...No one is really worse off then anyone else...make your album cheap, but good and people will still go out and buy it...in otherwords Kiss fans want the real product and not a cheap copy...sure you will lose sales...but downloading was beginning around Psycho Circus yet you managed to get a Gold album out of that. And honestly, no one cares Ace and Peter are on not an album these days. They are doing their own thing. Kiss today is in fine form and it is Paul and Gene After all who command the songs so their is still life in Kiss if you think in that terms. If you don't Gene, you are not better then a touring nostalgia act. Nice to have money coming in but if you're not putting anything out new, certainly don't call yourself an artist.
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COMMENT | I Agree With Gene on this completely
posted by : Angry Johnny
11/13/2007 9:01:34 AM
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Plus the sound quality SUCKS and frankly, if an album is great then I WANT A COPY OF IT.
It does me no good for it to sit on my iPod or the computer . . . I wanna play it on the cool stereo so I can really appreciate it.
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COMMENT | Yeah, right
posted by :
11/13/2007 10:21:24 AM
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Gene doesn't want to put out new music because he CAN'T WRITE ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS TO HEAR. He couldn't GIVE AWAY his last album. Nobody even wanted to "steal" it off the internet because it was crap, like the last dozen KISS albums. Gene is a dinosaur just like the music industry.
Long live the new blood!!!!
(Ace rules, though...)
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COMMENT | Gene's 100% correct.
posted by : wag
11/13/2007 11:44:25 AM
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I'm also glad he's not putting out new music. AssHole was terrible and I consider myself one for buying it.
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COMMENT | Once again
posted by : slowfro
11/13/2007 11:47:11 AM
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Ol' Gene is right on. Say what you will haters but the guy is intelligent as they come.
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COMMENT | Correct
posted by : oldmetal69
11/13/2007 12:41:23 PM
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Gene and Metallica are correct. End of story.
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COMMENT | Shock horror - Gene Simmons is WRONG!
posted by : Demon of Screamin'
11/13/2007 2:03:26 PM
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I think Gene will find that what Radiohead done is proving to be a viable business model.
After all, Cliff Richard followed suit and he's one of the biggest names in the business.
Fuckin A.
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COMMENT | Use diamonds instead of gold...
posted by :
11/13/2007 3:06:45 PM
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Which would be a better analogy to the way you would want to use music....
A few people control the vast out put of product. Thereby, creating a false shortage or limit in supply. Since the demand remains relatively high, the price is also high. However, it is artificially high.
I know that it wouldn't be PC to point out who those people are...but Gene is also one of them...
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/13/2007 3:34:49 PM
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The most important part is the music.
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really gene?
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COMMENT | $IMMON$
posted by :
11/13/2007 4:20:19 PM
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Is over-flooding the market with himself...
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COMMENT | *
posted by :
11/13/2007 4:35:09 PM
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Also, Gene is railing against Radiohead's business model 'cuase he don't f**kin' understand it...
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COMMENT | bummer
posted by :
11/13/2007 5:30:41 PM
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Gene says he cares about the fans and Ive been one since 1975. I dont think he gives a shit anymore. Van Halen say they want to put out new music and even Jimmy Page says he would like to do new music with Led Zeppelin. I will not go to anymore concerts unless these people put out new music. Ive just seen Van Halen in charlotte. It was great but I want to hear some new music. Sorry but, most of the new bands suck.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Dazed&Confused
11/13/2007 5:41:41 PM
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The music business being dead:
"And it WAS illegal downloading and or file sharing that did this....no matter what any idiot says."
It is only partially the reason the music business is dead. It's dead because $18 for a CD is a joke. Why pay $18 when it could be free? Again, stop having $5000 lunches to discuss where to shoot the video and maybe realize the fan shouldn't have to pay for this crap.
Mp3 Quality:
"Plus the sound quality SUCKS"
You don't know where to download now..do you? VBR V0 rips are pretty damn close to CD quality. And FLAC rips...well...it's called a lossless format for a reason. They are exactly the same as a CD.
And Gene...if you are reading this, you're pathetic. It's a matter of time Gene before you are on the "classic rock" festivals playing to no more than 500 people. The days of selling out arenas are over, you know it and so do your fans.
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COMMENT | i dont agree
posted by :
11/13/2007 8:50:27 PM
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the point that downloading music is an excuse not to make any new music is a cop out.it happens,its sux,but hey it dosent stop everyone else,why should it stop you.unless your greedy.your not exactly hurting for cash or anything.i think if kiss still wants to be taken serious and still be relevent in todays scene,they need to record something new,even a couple new tracks on kissology would be awesome as a exclusive for bestbuy.he's got time for every other money making scam that comes his way,but he's forgotten about us,the long time kiss fans who are still hoping fpr a new cd.im tired of waiting.
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COMMENT | Fuck You!
posted by : carlangas54070
11/13/2007 10:20:52 PM
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Simmons has ALWAYS been a greedy useless motherfucker! Yeah, this is about music, but Beethoven, Bach and Amadeus Mozart had labels?
Those fucking "Kissology" DVD's are insanely expensive, for what? for him keeping his racing team/shit (or whatever he does?).
Sorry, I believe in Trent Reznor instead.
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COMMENT |
posted by : Sabbathman
11/14/2007 2:10:08 PM
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Gene Simmons has ultimately never been a true professional musician who loves to make and perform music for the sake of the music itself and the fans of the music. Of course he contributed into the making of many great rock classics of Kiss and earned his status as a hard rock legend. All the respect to him for that.
But especially now - during these days of Hollywood bling-bling-buying celebrities - my respect towards him has deteriorated next to nothingness. No matter how many millions of dollars Gene Simmons already has got and keeps getting, all he does during his waking hours is to keep constantly figuring out how/where/with whom to make even more money. He seems to have a nice family, a luxurious mansion, elite cars, bling here and there...and all he does with his remaining life is to keep making more money!!! If I had like 400 000 - 500 000 € plus a regular nice house, I'd retire immediately and start living my life to the fullest! And I'm only 28. Gene is like 58. He'll probably make his final trademark deal on the day he dies, most likely his phone will ring in his pocket while they lower the Kiss-emblazoned bling-bling coffin to the ground.
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COMMENT |
posted by :
11/14/2007 8:11:20 PM
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Believe it or not, Gene, during my campus days whenever I was on the Internet listening to music while writing an assignment or a thesis it was from an Internet radio station (KNAC, Hardradio, etc.) rather than downloading. The campus had a policy with their computer accounts in that if you used the account to download copyrighted material of any kind your account would first be suspended for 24 hours as a warning/deterrent; the second time would result in a loss of all of one's computer privileges. On a student income whether you purchased music legally or got slapped with a massive lawsuit for illegal downloading the end result was that both cost lots of money. That's why as opposed to downloading/purchasing music I simply listened to it on legal music sites and online radio stations. And now I just e-mail bands through MySpace asking them if they'd like their CD's reviewed and usually they'll mail them to me.
In other words, Gene, you and Kiss lost no money on me. Although out of an otherwise awesome show you guys put on in Saskatoon with Ted Nugent in 2000 I had been contemplating in asking for a partial refund of the $85 ticket I purchased for the show when Peter Criss botched up the words to "Beth" that night......
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COMMENT | $immon$
posted by : travyss
12/27/2007 7:25:37 PM
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I'm a Kiss fan, but the more I hear from Gene Simmons, the more tired of them I'm getting. I agree when he says the music industry is in such a mess and record labels don't know how to make money.
However, Gene Simmons' cocky, arrogant and I love myself attitude pisses me off. Kiss has done great things, their branding is unique, they've done great songs. That being said, he seems to have forgotten that people were dubbing cassettes and recording cassettes from LP's in the 70's, 80's and 90's because $15 or $20 was, is and will always be too expensive for 10-12 songs.
Moreover, an old Maxell or TDK Type II 90 min with Destroyer on side A and Love Gun on side B, that really rocked in a yellow Sony Walkman. Millions of people listened to music that way. Nowadays, people carry their iPod with folders full of Kiss songs. Technology has evolved but the music industry and old-schoolers like Gene Simmons haven't. The record industry is so way off the track with their 10-12 song CD's at $18.99, that's ridiculous.
Give people a reason to buy your music and they'll buy it. Do like Godsmack and give a DVD along with your greatest hits compilation and sell it $13. Do like post-Napster Metallica's attitude and give a rehearsal DVD along with your new album. Sell your CD for less than the other hot band. There's competition every damn where, records is no exception.
More people simply don't download or listen to albums anymore. Satellite radio, Shoutcast and Pandora, among others, are great ways to listen to fresh music. Ultra-specific radio channels can be listened, they play hits. Times have changed, people don't give a flying fuck about 10 song packages, come on.
Hey Gene, why don't you create a Kiss channel on XM or Sirius? I can't believe you haven't thought about this already...
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