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Ex-HELMET Mainman Hooks Up With ROB ZOMBIE Members, Defends LIMP BIZKIT Collaboration - Dec. 27, 2002
Former HELMET and current GANDHI guitarist/vocalist Page Hamilton has teamed up with ROB ZOMBIE members Johnny Tempesta (drums) and Blasko (a.k.a. Rob Nicholson) in an as-yet-unnamed new project.

The group, which is based in Los Angeles, will not affect Hamilton's involvement with GANDHI, which played a few club dates this fall, including at the annual CMJ Music Marathon in New York.

While GANDHI's live performances and demo recordings have generally received positive reviews, the group's progress has been impeded by difficulties in finding a label to release the band's debut album. "They're more reluctant to sign someone who's 40 years old and known for this certain thing," Hamilton told Billboard. "'We think you're the greatest. We respect you so much, but how do we market this?' You go see a band and they're playing a riff I wrote 10 years ago and they have a wallet chain and a load in their pants and they'll get signed."

Hamilton — who splits his time between and New York and Los Angeles — has pondered signing to an independent label, but has not yet made a final decision as to how to officially launch his new project. "That's something that I'm discussing right now," he explained. "There are a couple of people we're talking to, but oddly enough this brings up a conversation I had with Ian MacKaye of FUGAZI 10 to 12 years ago. I had been sitting in Steve Albini's house about to record 'In the Meantime', the demo that ended up being on the record. Steve was saying, 'Don't sign to a major label. Here's the math, here's what happens.' A week later, talking to Ian, he said. 'You could be on an indie label and be treated like shit and not get paid, or be on a major label and get treated like shit and get paid.' Unfortunately there is no guarantee you won't hate the people you eventually sign with."

Ironically, Hamilton's return to the live arena was largely overshadowed by the publicity generated through his recent work with LIMP BIZKIT. MTV VJ Iann Robinson called Hamilton a sell-out on the air for working with the reigning kings of rap-metal, to which Hamilton retorted, "If he wants to pay my bills I'll hand them over to him. I'd love to sit here all day and write art rock. I work hard enough at what I do to have earned the right to not have to apologize."

"I'm acquaintances with the LIMP BIZKIT guys because they were the opening band on the tour with KORN and HELMET four or five years ago, so I got to know them," the guitarist explained. "And I have no problem with them whatsoever. I don't pay attention to any of the press details about what Fred [Durst] does or says or doesn't do. He's always been nice to me. In August, I got a call from their manager about playing on their record and I said, 'Sure, of course I would.'"

Hamilton — who was approached about joining LIMP BIZKIT as a permanent replacement for departed guitarist Wes Borland, but declined the offer in order to focus on his own project — says he recorded one song and then some "experimental noise" for another, but doesn't know if any of it will end up on the next LIMP BIZKIT record, due in April. "They have 31 pieces of music they were considering," he said. "I have no idea of what they'll use if any of it."

Although getting GANDHI's full-length debut released is a priority, the guitarist has confessed there is still some HELMET material he'd like to see the light of day. "There's a bunch of stuff, but it's so disorganized," he said. "I have a ton of live stuff. We recorded the whole tour in 1994 with ROLLINS BAND. I have a couple of cool bootlegs. I was trying to work out something to track down all the HELMET bootleg stuff to put out a bootleg release. I have four or five bootlegs just from doing the GANDHI shows and people handing me CDs. I know from the Albini sessions there were a couple of songs that came out on a bootleg 7 inch [single]. I wish I could find all that stuff. Eventually we will."
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COMMENT | Whatever
posted by : JoeMomma
12/27/2002 9:11:05 PM

Shut up Hamilton.

COMMENT | you know he's right
posted by : Frank Rizzo
12/27/2002 9:40:15 PM

I hate Fred too, but if I had the choice of being broke or helping out a friend of mine, I'd do it. I was pissed that I had to buy a Korn ticket to see Helmet, but oh well, the world doesn't revolve around my taste. As far as Iann Robinson goes, fuck him. He works for MTV and HE's gonna call someone a sellout?

COMMENT | lol
posted by : beatleguise
12/27/2002 10:19:51 PM

nice article...but no talk of Zombie memebrs?lol thanks

COMMENT | you're right rizzo!!!
posted by : nosebleed
12/27/2002 10:47:01 PM

if i were Hamilton, i'd do the same thing. And Robinson.... he thinks his shit dont stink.

COMMENT | Ill sell out
posted by : theedibleegg
12/27/2002 11:24:10 PM

He would be an idiot not to take a check (and maybe a sandwich) from Fat Fred Durst. This guy seems down to earth and knows when to make a buck. I cant blame him. As long as he doesnt date Kelly Osbourne, hes OK with me.

COMMENT | check one two
posted by : mike le torres
12/27/2002 11:41:15 PM

hello

COMMENT | It's just perfect
posted by : HOLLaND
12/28/2002 8:26:12 AM

Cuz now he's making money without selling out. If his shit makes the album then so will his credits. The nU LB album will sell like hell because Rick Rubin is producing it and the Ministry guy is on it.

Plain and simple. It's just perfect!!!!

COMMENT | I don't kiss ass, but...
posted by : Big E
12/28/2002 8:29:08 AM

Frank Rizzo is right...period.

COMMENT | Down w/ Rizzo
posted by : No-Setbacks
12/28/2002 10:34:33 AM

You've said it all man. I couldn't care less for Limp Bizkit (not my thing at all), or what Hamilton does or doesn't do, but who the hell does Iann Robinson think he is to call someone a sell-out. MTV, dude! You work for M-T-V.

COMMENT | humz
posted by : Blasphemist
12/28/2002 12:44:50 PM

that robinson guy should take his head out of his ass

COMMENT | Yeah...."Sellout" Rizzo great call!!!
posted by : Hazerfazer
12/28/2002 1:47:10 PM

"Hi I'm Ian Robbinson" and when I'm not collecting my my check from a highly bloated corporate company ooooh...wait I mean from "MTV" (do they actually show music videos yet?) I like to be the "pot calling the kettle black" Ian you fucking hipocrate!!! No matter how many times you wear a "Metal Sludge" t-shirt you still won't be as cool as Page Hamilton. You stupid tub!

COMMENT | He can do what he wants...
posted by : molotov
12/28/2002 2:46:19 PM

I know i'd never want to make a dime being associated with that Limp Dickshit prick.


And i guarentee that the fact that that guy Jourgenson (if i mispelled the name, oh well)'s
on the new album will have absolutely NO effect on record sales whatsoever. Do you really think 99.9% of their fans have ever fucking HEARD of Ministry?!? I doubt it.

And that guy from MTV can fuck off. You cannot take anyone from MTV seriously if you're a serious rock fan, we all know that. We don't even need to bitch about them.

COMMENT | MTV sucks.
posted by : Bisas
12/28/2002 6:01:27 PM

But I guess we all agree on that.

I personally hope I get the chance to hear the LB/Hamilton song, should be cool.

Oh yeah, good call on the MTV-sellout thing. They really have bastardised a lot of good bands.

COMMENT | Well...
posted by : Ken
12/28/2002 6:08:40 PM

I wouldn't have participated in the LB album, because I have too much respect for independent music to contribute to corporate mush... but nobody asked me, so my opinion on the matter is null & void.
However, and more importantly, Hamilton was right in doing what HE WANTED to do, even if it was only to pay the bills as he seemed to imply. It's almost cool to think that he might take these corporate profits and sabotage the industry in his own minor way be using it to fund his own experimental noise work or Gandhi or older Helmet material. Using corporate profits against itself... cool idea!
Anyway, on to Iann "MTV" Robinson. Did any of you have the pleasure of seeing a documentary he was assigned a while back - covering the virtually pre-teen R&B boyband B2K? He even went on the record showing his disgust at such a lame assignment for a METAL journalist. But guess what - he took the job and completed the entire documentary. Who's the sellout for the corporate paycheck now, Iann? My guess is that he took the B2K assignment because he might have lost his job otherwise and... well, because HE HAS BILLS TO PAY!!! JUST LIKE PAGE HAMILTON!!! SO SHUT UP, IANN!!!

COMMENT | What happened to Helmet?!
posted by : Ego Killing Machine
12/29/2002 12:31:15 PM

Fires the guitarist who formed it with Hamilton and it's no wonder he has fallen on hard times having to play with fred duh-durst. Please i bet this new shit Page Hamilton is working on is total pussy shit. You need to be smashed in the face with a fucking hammer for being a weak piece of shit and ruinning Helmet by firing one of your key members of the band then going fucking soft. Puss! Hamilton is a Puss Sellout!

COMMENT | Hold On
posted by : LowLife398
12/29/2002 1:29:04 PM

First, take a step back from Hamilton's fucking boo-hoo sob story about paying bills. The last time I checked a "sellout" is someone who is a hired gun. In other words, someone who works on a project the he/she would not touch without a some kind of extra monitary reward. This is what he is doing. Keep in mind that he won't piss in LB's cornflakes by saying "yeah they are shit, but they pay well". You know what, making it in the music biz is a craps shoot at best. Thus, sound financial planning is involved. If Page Hamilton wants to make a few extra bucks by doing the LB thing, then he should take the heat for it. Life is a series of fucking tradeoffs pal so deal with it! As for Ian Robinson, if anyone tells it like it is, it's him. Just my opinion.



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