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SERJ TANKIAN Spreads The Word On Social Justice - Mar. 22, 2008
Billboard magazine recently conducted an interview with SYSTEM OF A DOWN frontman Serj Tankian. An excerpt from the chat follows:

Q: How did you first get involved in green issues?

Tankian: I've been a supporter of Greenpeace and the Sierra Club for years. I have a place in New Zealand, and I was really impressed with a Greenpeace action that took place down there recently. Greenpeace folks boarded a Japanese whaling ship to try to shut it down, and in the midst of the conflict, both ships ran out of fuel. When a rescue ship came, the Greenpeace people tried to disconnect the fuel lines to the whaling ship, even though it meant they'd be stuck as well. It was kind of crazy, but sometimes you have to be ballsy and put yourself out.

Q: This is all great, but I'm wondering how you justify being part of an industry that produces so much waste. You've sold more than 10 million CDs, and many of those were in plastic containers that had to be shipped to stores.

Tankian: Basically, we're all hypocrites unless we go out and live off the land. That way of living is a model for me, because I think those people are clued in about climate change and the way we're going to have to alter our lives. I spend a lot of the record talking about the end of civilization, and I don't mean an apocalypse. I think that we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that the way we live now will not exist in 50 years, period.

Q: Along those same lines, you have been touring for this record, and while you have carbon offset programs in place, you are still using a lot of resources and putting a lot of goods out there. How do you reconcile that with your belief system?

Tankian: Again, I realize I am a hypocrite by going on the road and doing this. I've had an idea for a long time, which might sound a little crazy, but I really want to look into holographic touring. I think we could reduce our need to travel if we could project ourselves into meetings and concerts. We have the technology, and we're not using it right now.

For instance, I have a studio next to my house and a live performance room in the studio. I could broadcast a show in real time and could interact with the audience as if we were in the same room. After all, it's not like the audience can touch me, anyway. (laughs) It would open up a whole new world for touring — shows wouldn't have to be limited to bars or clubs. There would be no travel costs, so bands with very little money could play shows, and tickets would cost less.

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COMMENT | holographic touring?
posted by : darthadv
3/23/2008 12:06:02 AM

so what would the need be beyond one 'tour date?' a live show is about being in the moment in a certain space on a certain day... broadcasting from a studio is ridiculous, unless you're into paying for a sterile performance...

COMMENT |
posted by : Mordack-
3/23/2008 12:31:36 AM

tankian = god

COMMENT |
posted by : zephyrs
3/23/2008 12:48:00 AM

So, umm... I guess Serj is a hypocrite, huh?

COMMENT | at least he was honest and saying he was a hippiecrite...
posted by : nodeerforamonth
3/23/2008 12:48:25 AM

I just want to know WHEN this "global warming" thing everyone keeps talking about is going to happen! It's too cold here! (and I'm in CA!!!!)



COMMENT | What a loser ...
posted by : Voivodling
3/23/2008 1:04:18 AM

But at least he acknowledges he is a hypocrite. Props for that.

OPIE AND ANTHONY! O&A PARTY ROCK! XM 202!

COMMENT | Gotta love Blabbermouth posters
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 3:44:50 AM

All illiterate right wing rednecks who don't believe in science and don't know Armenia from Al Queda.

Real music fans don't go to gigs high as kites? You mean...Ted Nugent fans that live like Ted Nugent? What the fuck? You mean real new age music fans?

All suspected terrorists should be shot on sight? Define terrorist, you racist douche.

COMMENT | w
posted by : zerojesus
3/23/2008 7:12:18 AM

what a fucking douche

COMMENT | this guy
posted by : kbfore
3/23/2008 7:44:50 AM

is an idiot.

If you still believe in the global warming you should move to NZ with him.

COMMENT |
posted by : DTC
3/23/2008 8:03:43 AM

for fuck's sake BM posters, stick to discussing music and don't talk things you have no clue about, such as environnmental issues, thank you.

COMMENT | SERJ the terrorist needs to shut the fuck up
posted by : Read My Scars
3/23/2008 8:45:06 AM

Hey Serj,

Your previous band sucked, Your new band blows, and your singing is fucking awful. Please stop already and give our ears a rest, kay? Leave the vocals to guys that actually have talent.

Oh yeah, LOL at the SOAD sheep that keep telling everyone to "stick to discussing music and don't talk things you have no clue about, such as environnmental issues". FUCK YOU. How about Serj and his shitty band sticks to playing music and leave the politics to people that know what the fuck they're talking about.

COMMENT |
posted by : DTC
3/23/2008 8:56:49 AM

hey asshole, first off I couldn't care less about SOAD and whatever they are associated to. what I'm reacting to is the ignorant comments about whether there's a global climate change or not, seen from outside your fucking window. are you guys climate experts or scientists? NO, then YOU fuck off now, end of story.

COMMENT | .
posted by : LordWrong
3/23/2008 9:11:00 AM

Tankian = Idiot

COMMENT | Enlist!
posted by : Likki Dixx
3/23/2008 12:46:21 PM

What are all you right wing morons doing posting here when Dear Leader Dubya needs you to go get blown up in Iraq and Afghanistan? Go do your part so soldiers who are on their third or fourth tour of duty can come back home!

Or, at the very least, imitate your hero Rush Limbaugh - go pop a few hundred Oxycontin daily, grab a bottle of Viagra, and take a trip with some other closet cases to the Dominican Republic where they have a thriving trade in teenage sex slaves. Anything to keep you from posting here.

COMMENT | DTC
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 1:37:19 PM

I'm not a scientiest.

But I actually read books and read science journals.

Global warming is a theory sort of like gravity.

Go check the carbon levels in the atmosphere now vs. any other point in history, go read about carbon's relation to higher tempratures, and then tell me "we're just going through a hot phase".

Douche.

Go suck on a tailpipe or a lawnmower exhaust...do you think that is good for you or somehow improves air quality? do you think that all disappears into the ether? Is the atmosphere just a myth that needs further study as well?

Some people will believe anything the ExxonMobil EPA guy forces into their mouth. They're called illiterate rednecks. You know the type. They believe Saddam caused 9/11, they believe anyone from Armenia like Serj is a terrorist, they think torturing arabs is a cool way to...prevent arabs from wanting to kill us (??), and they think evolution is a theory and being gay is a choice.

They claim to know their facts when in reality the last book they read was whatever their 8th grade teacher forced them to read before they dropped out.

And they think System of a Down sucks and makeup-less era Kiss is cool.

System of a Down were one of the best bands in the last 20 years. If they piss off degenerate rednecks, they're doing something right.

COMMENT | Here, read this, learn something
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 1:43:02 PM

Reading is good for you:

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119749713077524669.html

COMMENT | SterileEyes
posted by : Three Storms
3/23/2008 3:00:56 PM

"Define terrorist, you racist douche".

Grow up! Spend some time learning some history, economics and political science and you'll immediately recognize what the rest of us already know.

Also, YOU look like the douche when you resort to name calling when it's obvious you've ran out of intellegent things to say!

COMMENT | Its all a matter of perspective
posted by : antari
3/23/2008 3:03:03 PM

Just because you read books does not necessarily mean that you are smart or informed. It is what you read and what you understand of it that makes your perception of the information important. There are a lot of educated people who believe that the Bible is a word for word account of what happened and the new bible of the left is "Green". It is amazing the lengths that the left will go to silence any opposing view over "Man-made" Climate Change. One of the biggest holes in the Theory is the correlation between CO2 and Temperature. Ice Core samples consistently show a very different picture than that of Al Gore's little Mockumentary.
Other well informed beliefs of the educated where that the world is flat, Blacks are not people, Leeches are good for your health, the earth is the center of the universe, and my favorite the coming Ice Age of the 1970's. I have no problem with different opinions just don't tell me its not an opinion when you can't prove it and refuse to debate it.

COMMENT | almost forgot
posted by : antari
3/23/2008 3:09:01 PM

"And they think System of a Down sucks and makeup-less era Kiss is cool."

Both Sucked. The difference is Kiss had a pretty damned good catalog before they took off the make-up. SOAD had one mediocre CD before they nosedived into a horrible two disc abomination. Five CD's and six decent songs.

COMMENT | Greenpeace are corrupt, Serj is a hypocrite,
posted by : resunikufesin
3/23/2008 3:27:54 PM

but unfortunately he is right.

Whether it will be terrorists, narrow-minded fucks invading Iran or environment going to the dogs.

BTW: no climate change? ask the fuckin polar bears, do a dive in any carribean or indian ocean reef, or ask some folks who live in areas which had no snow for ten years and previously a lot (like me), or rivers drying out. you don't need to move to the antarctic to see, and i guess there are some 1000 guys on this board who could underline that. regardless if you give a shit about them, it's FUCKING SCARY at times.

because it does not happen in front of your door it does not mean it's not happening.
manmade? well, we are a few... go on argue about ambiguous facts, but what about probability.
hey, just give a shit and enjoy life. or maybe not?

imo it's not about left or right, both need each other, it's about bright or not bright. wish people would travel more.

COMMENT | Serj is a douche
posted by : guitarisma3
3/23/2008 3:36:21 PM

and so are the rest of the guys in his shitty band.

COMMENT | SERJ TANKIAN
posted by : spacelord81
3/23/2008 4:46:57 PM

should shut his fucking wordhole.

COMMENT | Three Storms
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 5:27:12 PM

Anal Killer says, and I quote, "As far as I'm concerned, all terrorists, or suspected terrorists, should be shot on sight"

What kind of political science or history am I supposed to read to fall in line with that view? Eh?

What does "everybody else already know" that I don't know?

I'm sorry, I have no patience for such blatant stupidity and racism.

And Antari,

so long as you're going to lecture me about what an opinion is, your opinions on Kiss and SOAD are not facts either. Except that makeup-less Kiss sucked.

These are the same people that think Barack Obama is a Muslim, that we're "fighting Al Queda in Iraq", that Saddam was responsible for 9/11, and that all muslims are terrorists.

There's nothing for me to study up to "know" what these people know. They don't know very much of anything and they're pretty much everything that's wrong with this country and it's an embarrassment that such ignorant assholes are allowed to vote. Calling this guy a douche seems pretty justified to me. He deserves intelligent discourse?

COMMENT | oops
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 5:35:40 PM

Got my paragraphs mixed up.

One more thing - Antari - it's amazing the lengths the right wing and the current administration will go to censor science. I'm kinda laughing that you think it's the other way around.

The Bush Administration appointed an ExxonMobil board member and had to fire him when he was caught censoring a NASA report. Even George Bush acknowledges global warming at this point, and that humans cause it. I mean really, who's left after him??

If someone wants to think it's "a little exaggerated", I say they're wrong, but fine. Say it is. Is it still a risk worth taking? Is it "healthy" what we're doing right now to the planet? Whether its air pollution or burning down the rainforest for cattle ranches that last 3 years on the shitty soil before they gotta go burn down more forest...are these somehow healthy habits that are good to continue indefinitely?

COMMENT | fuck off out of new zealand
posted by : Jazrodian
3/23/2008 5:41:31 PM

hippy hypocrites go home!

shit music shit ideology shit for brains

next...

COMMENT |
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 5:43:35 PM

http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/investigation-reveals-0007.html

COMMENT | SOAD is garbage. Wake up listen to real music.
posted by : Read My Scars
3/23/2008 6:23:16 PM

http://i.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/dannymanic~soadskull1.gif

http://i.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/dannymanic~soadskull2.gif

COMMENT |
posted by : txz045
3/23/2008 7:07:28 PM

Anal Killer needs to wake up from his false reality....

COMMENT |
posted by : ahl
3/23/2008 8:08:41 PM

you're all fucking clueless.

Holographic touring... that's totally fucking hilarious!

that would be like.... watching a movie, like Song Remains The Same, or Black And Blue

COMMENT | SterileEyes ... take a breather!
posted by : Voivodling
3/23/2008 8:13:39 PM

And what is your problem with Rednecks? How can you preach tolerance, then lob a racial slur?

You are a puppet and you are fed propaganda ... which you happily swallow.

Toe the Party Line, it is what you do.

Presenting your opinion as fact is asinine, as is telling everyone else that their opinion is wrong. This is the mark of your political affiliation.

Nice job, your party is going to lose a "can't lose" Election courtesy of one of your old heroes. Hail Hillary ... if she can't win, then no one else can either. Enjoy your power-hungry First Family and eat their gospel.

OPIE AND ANTHONY! O&A PARTY ROCK! XM 202!

COMMENT |
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 8:24:39 PM

I wasn't preaching tolerance. I don't have a problem with rednecks. Just illiterate ones that don't read and believe everything they hear - Obama is a muslim, Saddam caused 9/11, we're fighting Al Queda in Iraq, all muslims are terrorists, global warming needs further study because 'scientists' at Exxon say so, "they'll follow us home", "the surge is working", etc.

Who said I'm a democrat? And I am definitely no fan of Hillary, in fact, McCain's getting my vote if she's the nominee (which she won't be), and I agree with you the dems will lose because of her if she doesn't leave soon (see, we can agree on something).

However, global warming being real and man made is not an opinion. Sorry buddy.

The only propaganda being swallowed by people here is that global warming is a myth that needs further study. I'm assuming you people aren't too keen on evolution or gravity either. Go talk to people in Indonesia or New Orleans and ask them if we're causing global warming...better yet, go talk to some polar bears or look at the antartic now vs. 20 or 30 years ago. And like I said, if you think exaust fumes are so good for the planet, try breating some directly and see if it changes your opinion at all. That shit doesn't just disappear into the ether, we have an atmosphere and stuff.

Is evolution an opinion? Gravity?

COMMENT | amazing...
posted by : badmansludge000
3/23/2008 10:08:47 PM

Left wing, right wing, liberal, conservative...it makes no difference what you believe beacuse this thread alone is proof that 99% of people that post on blabbermouth are uneducated, irrational morons. It makes me embarrassed to admit to people the type of music that I enjoy listening to because it automatically associates me to people like yourselves. I mean, I lost count of the number of times I read sombody calling someone else a "douche". It's like calling someone a "gaywad". I guess I give people too much credit by thinking that they could possibly express their opinion about something in a way that resembles that of an educated human, rather than that of an eleven year old. I hope that most of you are not much older than that, because that would be your only excuse for such stupidity.

COMMENT | badmansludge
posted by : SterileEyes
3/23/2008 10:51:35 PM

"uneducated, irrational moron" = douche in my book.

What makes you any better?

By the way, just for the record - global warming is not a political issue. It's science. Empirical facts.

I love how because I "believe" in global warming that somehow makes me a left wing democrat to some b-mouth people.

COMMENT | SterileEyes
posted by : badmansludge000
3/23/2008 11:14:37 PM

What makes me better?...the fact that I don't call people a "douche". Calling someone "uneducated" and "irrational" has meaning behind it. Calling someone a "douche" is just like saying "I can't think of anyway to support anything I'm saying, so I'll just resort to something a third grader would say." I'm not saying anyone's opinion is wrong or that global warming does or doesn't exist. I couldn't care any less what anyone on this website thinks about anything, I just wish people could have an educated debate whether it's about politics or about music.

COMMENT |
posted by : SterileEyes
3/24/2008 12:55:30 AM

I like how you avoided commenting upon your use of the term "moron", and actually I did support what I was saying, I even provided links.

COMMENT | SterileEyes
posted by : joetherednek
3/24/2008 1:13:06 AM

"However, global warming being real and man made is not an opinion. Sorry buddy."

PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.
This whole thread you've been bitching about global warming and I still have yet to see you provide one fact to prove it.

So do us all a favor and either come up with some concrete proof, or drop it.

I also would like to state that I love how the media, as well as posters like SterileEyes have convieniently left out the fact that there was a conference on global warming in New York City just recently, attended only by accredited members of the scientific community (i.e. people who actually know what their talking about when they speak), who all disagree with the THEORY of global warming.

Did we hear their perspectives on the issue on the nightly news, I think not (and before you even bring it up, no they were not all employed by Exxon).

COMMENT | Posted for a second time:
posted by : SterileEyes
3/24/2008 3:00:15 AM

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119749713077524669.html

No more snows of kilimanjaro, Katrina, polar bears, ice caps melting, 15 of last 17 years are the hottest in recorded history, indonesia tsunami, all the typhoons on/near japan, coral reefs bleaching...

All recent, only thing to change on earth would be that there are 5 billion additional people in the last 100 years. They burn oil nonstop in their cars, factories, lawnmowers, and air conditionings...That sorta fits together.

I don't know what other proof you need. Are penguins causing it or something?

Is burning oil like a healthy vitamin for the atmosphere or something?

And your NYC Conference was put on by The Heartland Foundation, which is even lamer than Exxon because half their agenda is saying global warming is exaggerated and the other half is saying the dangers of smoking are exaggerated. Give me a break. Their disclaimer page is classic.

A "conference" being put on by a think tank that's already made up its mind years ago. I wonder what kind of "scientists" are inclined to show up at such an event.

That's your proof? Fantastic. That's a debate I'm happy to have.

COMMENT | SterileEyes
posted by : joetherednek
3/24/2008 3:59:44 AM

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191900.php

I guess you just dont want to understand both sides of the issue, do you.

Again, PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.

COMMENT | SterileEyes
posted by : joetherednek
3/24/2008 4:04:58 AM

By the way, i'm sorry that those experts (people who know what their talking about) dont agree with your uninformed leftist ideas.

COMMENT | Predict this
posted by : antari
3/24/2008 6:07:26 AM

Ok so these well trained highly intelligent Climatologists can predict what will happen in 100+ years right? Then why is it that they can not predict the weather with 100% accuracy even 1 day ahead? It is the same people. All of whom must base the careers on the same thing the media does, Ratings!!!! Boring Weather = No ratings. Storm of the Century = Big Ratings. Global Calamity = Weekend Specials. They sell, sell, sell and you buy it up. What I find amazingly ignorant is the total dismissal of the effects of the sun and moon on our global climate.

COMMENT | SterileEyes
posted by : spaztekmofo
3/24/2008 12:32:53 PM

Shut the fuck up.

You're just as retarded as the ignorant douches you're bitching about.

COMMENT | I love it
posted by : SterileEyes
3/24/2008 8:47:26 PM

The best comebacks anyone can come up with are:

"Shut the fuck up, retard"

and

"Your leftist 'experts' don't know what their talking about" - misspelling quoted and intentional.

Perfect.

I win.

And Antari, scientists have been warning for years that hurricanes would get stronger, and wow, look what happened! And look who ignored the warnings before Katrina? Look who was wrong? Gee, the same guys that were wrong about WMDs, Al Queda's connection to Iraq, the economy not being in a recession, the insurgency being in its last throes, being greeted as heroes in Iraq, the war costing $60 billion and lasting six months.

Coincidentally those same boneheads say global warming is real but possibly not manmade (again, who's causing it then, penguins? giraffes?), and they said there was no need to worry about the warnings about a giant hurricane about to strike in two days, because like you, they didn't believe in weather predictions.

And for the record, just to clear your argument up, predicting cloud patterns and predicting CO2 concentrations are two completely different things.

COMMENT | My god your tiresome
posted by : antari
3/24/2008 10:08:16 PM

Ok, last post in this thread for me. Here we go Sterile.
We had one year with an increase in hurricane activity and as far as Katrina goes the Bush administration told them to get out a week ahead of time and Ray Nagin ignored them. The idiots that still live there re-elected him but what do you expect from people who choose to live below sea level in a coastal city.
Everybody's intelligence sucked on WMD's not just ours and quite frankly Saddam would eventually have become a target anyway it was not a "war on Al Qaeda" it was a "war on terrorism" and seeing as Saddam was one of the largest state sponsors of Homicide Bombers he qualified for a US ass kicking.
The Economy if you look at the numbers was actually doing really well from 2002-2006 now what happened in 2006? Oh yeah Frauline Pelosi took over as Speaker and drove Congress to an all time low approval rating.
Please do not diminish what the troops have done. They where greeted as heroes. We have greatly destabilized the insurgents in Iraq. Unfortunately, we have elements in our own government and media helping to embolden the enemy be declaring us defeated. The surge has finally been noticed as a success by most of the Media and some in congress. The vast majority of the resistance that our soldiers now face is coming from Iran and Syria not Iraq.
The original numbers given for length and cost where best case estimates and where always underlined with the disclaimer that it could be longer and we would "Stay the Course".
The Cause of Global Warming is the Sun. Without it there is no heat . What would cause a rise in temperature? How about, increased Solar Activity, Causing more Water Vapor ( The Largest Greenhouse gas on the Planet ). Now what is does water vapor become oh yeah Clouds. What do clouds do? They help reflect Solar Radiation to maintain temperatures. The Planet warms and cools all the time and has a system in place to fix it. Human Activity accounts for 0.28% of Greenhouse Gases. This is mostly therapeutic as I know that no amount of facts nor logic will change your indoctrinated ideology.
Also further proving that you know very little about Global Climate you blamed the Tsunami on Global Warming. Last time I checked Plate Tectonics had nothing to do with Man Made Climate Change. Unless, You're one of those people who believe that our Zionist masters cause earthquakes with their Magma Flow Control Machine.



COMMENT |
posted by : SterileEyes
3/25/2008 10:36:03 PM

It's "you're" tiresome, Mr. Know-It-All.

Land collapses when permafrost thaws. It's not a cause. It's a possible contributing factor. An ice sheet the size of Connecticut is about to become unhinged. That's totally natural and harmless in your mind, right?

Human activity accounts for 0.28% of greenhouse gasses? Um, in the words of everyone else here, PROVE IT!

You're right, the cause of global warming is the sun. The increase in solar activity is due to, oh yeah, us thinning the atmosphere with our carbon emissions and exposing us more directly to solar activity. It's not giraffe poop that's causing this and this isn't a 'natural heat cycle'.

And you still haven't answered my most basic question - is continuously burning oil all over the world 24 hours a day somehow GOOD for the planet? Does it have vitamin C or something that I'm not aware of? This is a good healthy habit? Do we not have an atmosphere that is very thin and retains heat?

The surge - We haven't stabilized shit and it is not a success. There are 160,000 troops over there right now. Traffic calms when the cops are all over the road. Great. Let's just keep them there indefinitely until they've done a dozen tours and it'll be a great 'success'. Let's keep bribing the militias with our tax dollars. Brilliant success strategy.

The surge, by definition, is supposed to be temporary. Apparently it's only 'successful' when the definition is changed to 'permanent troop increase'. That's not success. That's a quagmire. And since when is a reduction in American deaths a "success"? Most days between 30-50 Iraqi civilians are dying every day, are they not people or something? Is this acceptable? Is it "tolerable" that we're still losing dozens of our own soldiers every month?

And don't lecture me about respecting the troops. I insulted their boss, not them. I've had many many friends over there and spent many sleepless nights only knowing that there were explosions nearby and their families were unsure if they were still alive or not. Coincidentally, many of them share my views, and many of them contributed to my views. They must not be real soldiers to you or something. What a cheap right wing tactic. Shame on you.



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