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ACE FREHLEY Scraps Fan Meet-And-Greets
- May 28, 2008
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Original KISS guitarist Ace Frehley appears to have abandoned the idea of taking part in fan meet-and-greets during his forthcoming European tour. Says Ace: "As you know, we've been experimenting, as have other performers, with the idea of meeting and greeting my fans at the end of a concert. "A few days ago [on May 22], we had such a meet-and-greet at my show in Nashville. While it was a good event, upon reflection, I have ideas which would make such meetings spectacular. I want this to be an incredible experience for my fans. "Until I have time to perfect these meet-and-greets, I have decided not to have any on this European tour. "I hope to have this in place by my next European tour. In the meantime, I hope to see all of you at my scheduled tour dates, which remain unchanged." For a list of upcoming Ace Frehley shows, click here. In a recent interview with Billboard, Frehley stated about his forthcoming solo album — which is tentatively due before the end of the year — "Basically, I'm trying to get back into the mindset I was in when I did my first solo record [1978's 'Ace Frehley']. That record seemed to have all the elements everybody liked — a real cool instrumental, a hit single, some real heavy rockers, a nice variety of different genres of music." Among his favorite new tracks are "A Little Below the Angels", hard-rocking "Pain in the Neck" and an instrumental called "Fractured Quantum", which is a follow-up to his previous instrumentals "Fractured Mirror" and "Fractured Too". Another favorite is "groove song" titled "Genghis Khan", which he likens in tone to LED ZEPPELIN's "Kashmir". Frehley recently told MyrtleBeachOnline.com that he's shooting for 12 tracks on his next album, his first in 18 years. Studio work has spanned more than 6 months, and some of the songs go back 12 years. Frehley is currently on the road fronting a band that features second guitarist Derek Hawkins, drummer Scot Coogan (ex- BRIDES OF DESTRUCTION) and bassist Anthony Esposito (ex- LYNCH MOB). While they all contribute with vocals, most of the burden is on Frehley, who historically has been shy at the mike. "To me, singing is a necessary evil," he said. "I consider myself a guitar player and a songwriter, and because I write these songs I gotta sing them. I remember last year when I was thinking about putting the band together, some people were saying, ' Ace, you should get a powerhouse frontman.' But a lot of these songs I've been singing for years, either solo or with KISS. What's this front guy going to do when I'm singing lead? Play a tambourine," he said, cracking up. On how he has improved as a player: "I think I'm a little more accurate and more focused. When I drink and perform, I was maybe a little more animated, but there were more clinkers and I played sloppier and stuff. I'm just more focused now and more in charge." On the current state of rock music: "There are some good bands out there, but some of the screaming stuff lacks melody. I mean, if I have to choose between the two, I'll take something where I can pick out the melody — something where when you walk away from it, you can hum, something that will recirculate in your brain. Some of the best guitar solos are the slower ones. You can't really hum something when you're playing 3 million notes per second." "I listen to a lot of the old stuff I used to listen to — HENDRIX, ZEPPELIN, THE WHO, CREAM, JEFF BECK — the stuff I grew up on. It still works today, whereas a lot of music when you play it today it really sounds really dated. A lot of the groups that influenced me, they still sound good." Fan-filmed video footage of Ace Frehley performing in Mt. Clemens, Michigan on March 9, 2008 can be viewed below (courtesy of "74BlackDiamond74"). (Thanks: Asbjorn Slettemark / Pyro Rock Show, NRK P3)
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COMMENT | Thayer > Frehley
posted by : ThayerIsGod 5/28/2008 7:35:19 AM
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Tommy Thayer is the greatest Spaceman to ever live, however, I'll give Ace the benefit of the doubt here. But if he doesn't follow though and meet with fans down the road, it'll just be more of the same 'ol Ace.
I just feel bad for the fans who aren't going to get a chance to meet him since so many of them look up to him and worship him in unhealthy ways.
Still, if there is this great idea that he has, I don't see why he couldn't meet people this time and work in his idea for the next time.
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posted by : 5/28/2008 7:36:22 AM
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Wheres all the Kiss knockers now? All the Ace Frehley worshippers who thinks he's a god, shows what the fans really mean to him. At least the evil pair Gene and Paul are still doing their meet and greets, for a shit load of cash granted.
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posted by : 5/28/2008 7:39:44 AM
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If he didn't want to meet his fans and used a better excuse such as he didn't beleive in exploiting his fan base by asking for extortinate rates to meet their idol, he may have come across better.
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COMMENT | SHYNESS AND DRINKING
posted by : 5/28/2008 7:43:01 AM
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I read somewhere that Ace is very shy and that accounts for some of his pass drinking problems. maybe the meet and greets were causing stress and he was afraid of having a relapse. maybe he is serious about staying sober this time. I wish him luck. Besides that meet and greets are lame anyway. A quick hello and autograph for standing in line for 4 hours.not for me.
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posted by : 5/28/2008 7:57:58 AM
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Or maybe could just do what Iron Maiden do and just meet the fans for free.
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COMMENT | Nashville Meet N Greet
posted by : AAronDavidRocks 5/28/2008 8:44:59 AM
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We were at the Meet N Greet in Nashville. We payed $75 which included an Ace Frehley 2008 T-Shirt, Meet N Greet Passes, a Professional Photograph with The Band and KILLER SEATS.
At the Meet N Greet (after the show) we were shuffled thru really quick. It seemed like as soon as Ace would start talking to you, one of the staffers would yell "next!"
It appeared to me that Ace was getting fustrated because the fans were being shuffled through so fast.
It was still really awesome to meet Ace and The Band even if it was only for a second. Ace took the time to talk to and pal around with my son (who's name is also Ace) and came off as a super cool guy.
I am sure that there were people who were upset with the way they got pushed thru the Meet N Greet, but believe me this was no fault of Ace Frehley or his band.
Oh, and Ace was Stone Sober and the show was Phenomenal... Stupid Haters.
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posted by : JRSPON 5/28/2008 9:20:41 AM
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The fans are who put him in this music world, he should spend the time with them ans sign autographs, Hell, Tommy does, And his line is longer.
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posted by : nyc333 5/28/2008 9:37:15 AM
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He is doing this due to the staff making this un-pleasurable for the fans, dont you feel like an ass for jumping to conclusions? The meet and greets where getting shorter and shorter due to venue and security restrictions. you can remove your head from you ass now.
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COMMENT | Ace says: "I want to perfect the meet and greet:
posted by : 5/28/2008 10:27:55 AM
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Ace means: " I want to be able to charge as much as Kiss does for their Meet and Greets and not sign any Kiss stuff for these suckers - solo Ace stuff Only!"
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COMMENT | According to Ace
posted by : 5/28/2008 10:34:23 AM
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Ace is a lazy bastard.
Also, the guy will have different moods like any other human. I'm sure he is a cool guy but then gets overwhelmed with shit that even rockstars have to cope with. I don't just dismiss people as assholes that quickly (with the exception of here at BM) everyone has their days.
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posted by : Metal2TheMAX 5/28/2008 10:39:32 AM
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DO YOU EXPECT THE GUY WHO MAKES YOUR LIGHT BULBS TO MEET YOU? Yeah you pay his bills and you get a service for your money. In Ace's case you get entertainment. He doesn't owe anyone SHIT!
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posted by : RiotAct666 5/28/2008 11:00:16 AM
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Saw Ace live this year. He sounded great and played great too. Hurry up and release that new solo album.
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COMMENT | Ace is the man.
posted by : THRASHMONGER 5/28/2008 11:24:54 AM
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None of you whining douchefucks have any idea what it's like to feel hounded all the fucking time, everyone in the world wants your attention all fucking day, etc. The guy's chronically shy which was a huge part of his alcoholism. Now that he's sober, he's being put through the fucking gauntlet, having to meet people and be social bla bla bla. In his mind, he's a guitarist. In everyone else's mind, he's a rock hero, role model, whatever other bullshit we foist on the guy. He doesn't owe anyone anything. The guy is trying to develop some coping mechanisms in lieu of drinking. He just wasn't ready to do it yet. I'm just happy he's playing at all. I saw him twice on this tour, he KILLED both times, and that was plenty for me. You all sound like you have sand in your vaginas. Grow up.
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COMMENT | he played great in Vegas..
posted by : frehleysvomit 5/28/2008 11:40:11 AM
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..but pulled the same shit here in March. I don't for a second believe he's staying on the wagon. I think he just wants to isolate himself further from the outside world like a typical addict and that he's been on the road too long after staying at home too long. It's got to be killing him to work this hard after having someone else do all the heavy lifting for thirty five years.
By the way, that new album should be called Frehley's Democracy.
Do not expect it out this year.
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posted by : 5/28/2008 12:06:41 PM
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If the guy who made my lightbulbs could trade places with Ace Frehley then yeah I beleive he would love to meet people/travel the world etc.. but then lifes not like that. unfortunately when you make the decision to be part of the entertainment industry then you have to expect to take on everything that goes with it.
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posted by : SchecterShredder 5/28/2008 12:06:55 PM
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Ace is sober. Period. This I KNOW. And lets face it, meet and greets are awkward. For both fans and more so for the artists because people are so fucking stupid now. Hey Ace, are you going to be playing with Kiss again? Imgine the agony of hearing that OVER and OVER again...
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COMMENT | JRSPON
posted by : Neil Young's Cocaine Booger 5/28/2008 12:29:16 PM
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The only reason the line is longer is because KI$$ fans are idiots and still think that is Ace!!!!!!
We all know Tommy GAYER is the worst guitarist to ever play with KI$$.....the guy is the Joe Besser of KI$$!!!!!!
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COMMENT | But...
posted by : Italian Ace 5/28/2008 12:40:53 PM
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Guys, what do you know about Ace problems? Weariness, shyness, panic attacks... what do you know about it? He does what he feels can do, it's simple i think.
Tommy Thayer is an employee, he does what Simmons&Stanley tell him to do.
In any case, Ace is God and KISS rocks!
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COMMENT | tough shit
posted by : 5/28/2008 12:41:05 PM
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Ace is notoriously shy and a very socially awkward guy. I saw him at the St. Louis show and heard from several sources that the meet-and-greets that were allowed didn't go well and that Ace has a lot of real difficulties with fan interaction. Considering the high quotient of idiots out there, I don't blame him.
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COMMENT | Neil Young's
posted by : JRSPON 5/28/2008 12:45:45 PM
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Was kidding about the line being longer for Tommy. Only met Ace one time, he was drunk off his ass, i am glad he is sober today, But, for $75.00 he should at least spend time with the fan.
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COMMENT | Considering the high quotient of idiots out there, I don't blame him.
posted by : Italian Ace 5/28/2008 12:47:30 PM
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I agree
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COMMENT | The guy is the Joe Besser of KI$$!!!!!!
posted by : oldskool 5/28/2008 1:02:55 PM
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Best comparison ever! LOL!
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COMMENT | Ace is Ace
posted by : 5/28/2008 1:14:10 PM
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I have met him about 5 times over the last 17 years. He has always been very cool to me. And he'll sign and write just about anything you want and how you want it. I remember back in the late 80's Gene and Paul were signing everything G Simmons and P Stanley. Atleast Ace has always had the decency to give you his whole name plus more. Everybody wants to be treated like you're some rock stars personal friend. Get over it. But again Ace was never anything less. In fact he remembered me the 5th time which was about 4 years later from the 4th time. And everybody gives this crap about Ace's drinking and drug problems because they have heard it from Gene and Paul for the last 20 years. All in all if you look over KISS history it was never been anymore worse than anything Gene and Paul did themselves in the past. In fact when times were so bad that was when they were the biggest. Never saw any of these bad bad Frehley crap during those hey days. And if they hid it, then obviously it wasnt all that or it wouldnt have been able to hide. Gene has screwed up live on stage many a time, especially in the 70's. Has been moody with fans numerous times. Turns on the KISS time clock and turns it off for other self stuff numerous time. Control freak all the time. They have done more damage to KISS than Ace or Peter ever did or could have did. The bottom line is Ace has never changed, and we love him for that. Gene and Paul cant stand that. Its not the booze and stuff. It was that Ace left, and Gene and Paul blame part of that on Peter, when they were right in the start of a huge Phonogram/Polygram record deal that promised them huge amounts of money on top of where they were already at. They have never lived that down. And if the booze and who Ace was really killed Gene over and over, how come he tried asking him back during the Creatures Tour. If there ever was a bad bad situation that Gene and Paul drew up on Peter and Ace, it was Vinnie Vincent. And look how those two shut him out like a bad light, and have never turned that back on. Gene and Paul, even to this day, dont treat Peter and Ace that way.
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posted by : JRSPON 5/28/2008 1:34:25 PM
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Unfortunately, we will never know the real reason for any of the Gene, Paul, Ace, and Peter, stuff, because it is all speculation, you hear from the media but thats what they want you to hear. They have all had some sort of problems, and they all did some sort of damage to the Kiss name, but in the end Gene and Paul are doing what they love, Ace is back to doing what he loves, and Peter is doing what he loves even though his solo was the worst thing ever . Botton line is they were all are part of one of the greatest rock band ever.
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COMMENT | we need lightbulbs
posted by : 5/28/2008 2:16:08 PM
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we dont need ace's music.
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posted by : stwla888 5/28/2008 3:27:58 PM
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I had to pay $50 to meet that fucker so he could sign my kissology. That was joining his dumb fanclub. Then the reunion happened and that was the end of the fanclub. Not worth meeting. He doesn't sign guitars.
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COMMENT | ace
posted by : master of poopheads 5/28/2008 3:56:03 PM
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lazy is as lazy does.
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COMMENT | Rip it Out
posted by : 5/28/2008 4:03:11 PM
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"All in all if you look over KISS history it was never been anymore worse than anything Gene and Paul did themselves in the past."
Are you implying that Paul and Gene had drug problems like Ace?? Those guys don't touch anything. Never did. I am just a little confused with what you were getting at.
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COMMENT | David
posted by : JRSPON 5/28/2008 4:58:02 PM
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That has me a little confused also>>>
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posted by : 5/28/2008 7:45:47 PM
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i am just hoping that his solo album isn't nearly as lame as this song! WOW, does his brain only function long enough to write three repeating lines??????????????????????
Bruce Kulick gets my vote as best KISS guitarist
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COMMENT | if you don't wanna be dis-illusioned
posted by : zeets 5/28/2008 9:35:29 PM
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....don't pay to meet your "heroes"
i'd never pay or meet for free, any of my favourite "rock stars". why? because just like people in everyday life, not everyone is going to be a gracious pleasnt person. just as there's assholes in the general public, there's assholes in rock.
maybe ace is a prick, who cares? i'll just listen to his music and appreciate that.
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COMMENT | Ace was a jerk
posted by : 5/29/2008 1:07:24 AM
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My childhood dream came true in 1998 .... meeting the original Kiss line up in full gear on the Psycho Circus tour ! I had already met Gene and Paul a couple times over the years(along with Bruce and Eric) but this was totally different. Kiss in costumes and make up ... it was like meeting Batman or Darth Vader. But the old cliche "don't meet you idols .... they will just let ya down" came true. Ace was a total dick. Peter was friendly and polite. Gene was Gene .... all buisness, but friendly and joking. Paul was the best ... friendly, and chatty, thankful for my years of loyalty to the band. Asking us questions and being totally cool. But Ace was bitching and moaning about everything. He igonored me and my buddy....even while signing our stuff. He's got a sour puss look on his face in the pic I got taken with them and he just bummed me out that day. This wasn't a big over whelming day of meet and greets either....me and my buddy were the only one there, and it was planned thru the label. I recently saw one of Ace's solo shows and it was fucking great......tight band, great set list. But I didn't buy ticket or plan on going cause he was suck a knob years ago. Turns out a buddy of mine ended up with 100 free tix to give away to get people in the club that nite and called me outta the blue. I might buy a ticket to see a Ace show in the future....but I will NEVER pay a fucking dime to meet him .... he blew that possibilty years ago.
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posted by : 5/29/2008 12:06:55 PM
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I love reading this stuff!! It is beyond hilarious.
I'd like to meet Ace just because he can sing "grab ahold of my rocket!!!!" with a straight face.
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COMMENT | kiss my ass 4318
posted by : 5/29/2008 6:18:38 PM
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I hear what you are saying but I just don't get the point of Ace being a former junkie being mentioned. To me that is irrelevant. If anything, it is much better than being a current junkie and it demonstrates that he had the extreme strength to disengage himself from the tight grip of heroin and other lethal chemicals. Ex- junkie to me is actually a very positive trait. BTW, I like the point of meeting the maker for free.
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COMMENT | There are those
posted by : 8/12/2008 3:14:10 PM
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posters here that obviously have the ability to see Ace as more than just some stage persona. I salute you. Then there are the whining babies that never grew up. WAAAAH! I have read Ace's quotes that have been posted online, and he has said himself that the tends to be an isolationest. It takes a live person to create the stage persona people and that live person has much more than one mood. He has his bad days just like everyone else, so knock it off you Frehley bashers. He's had Gene and Paul who in one or more ways have bashed him down(that's not to take away from the fact that his past drinking ; drugs; and bad behavior didn't help his case any), he's had people writing tattletale books about him to put him in the worst possible light(yeah Wendy Moore, I'm talking about you bitch), but he certainly does not need the fans tearing him down too. He's just one more talanted person on this planet who got lucky and made it big. I am proud of him for finding the raw guts and strength to turn his life around, get serious about geting sober(recovering achoholics do slip up, I've seen it first hand when I was in a homeless shelter for a little while and saw it up close)but the point is, he finally did it, then had the courage to pick up that guitar and walk back onstage and try again. Ace, I salute you. Keep it up. Don't break this Frehley fan's heart. Gee is there a possibility there that mabye the man is SHY and perhaps socially awkward? Perhaps he get sick and bored from hearing all the guitar god crap. so much. And maybe, just maybe, he does not want to have attention drawn to him so much when he's out on regular or personal business. And while I'm at it, I'm posting a parody I wrote about her in return for the smear all book she wrote about him. (Thought I'd return the favor Bendy sorry Wendy.) Hope Ace eventually sees this parody and gets as much fun out of reading it as I did writing it.
Ode to Wendy(Michael row your boat ashore)
Wendy Moore's a dirty *hore hal·le·lu·jah She does fetish and so much more hal·le·lu·jah On her knees she aims to please hal·le·lu·jah But she's just a big *ocktease hal·le·lu·jah
She snorts coke and sleeps around hal·le·lu·jah 'Cause she thinks from her waist down hal·le·lu·jah She went bad at twenty eight hal·le·lu·jah Now she's gay or bi not straight hal·le·lu·jah
She pretends to be your freind hal·le·lu·jah But she backstabe in the end hal·le·lu·jah She will leave you feeling blue hal·le·lu·jah She screwed Ace she'll screw you too! hal·le·lu·jah
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COMMENT | Re: There are Those
posted by : 8/5/2009 7:09:05 PM
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Nice Song But... Did you ever think that Wendy's book may have had something to do with Ace's Cleanup? Hmmm I didn't think so that would actully take some thought. Good luck with your musical career...
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