 |
COMMENT | Awful album
posted by :
6/9/2003 6:08:35 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This is not from someone who's biter because they're not thrash anymore. In fact, this will be the first Metallica album I won't be purchasing. Song structure is more simplified than ever. Songs are overly long and go absolutely no where. It's monotonous as hell verse, hook, verse, hook, verse hook, end. The lyrics are some of the worst James has ever written especially on stinkers like Invisble Kid. Some Kind Of Monster pulls a riff straight out of the nu-metal grab bag. You're former Metal legends guys if you want ot do a hard rock bluesy album I'm cool with it, but don't fucking imitate some shitty genre that isn't worthy of sniffying your jock. This is sad on so many levels. Was Kirk Hammet even on this album? I sure don't hear him. The guitar sound is so downtuned and garbage that James could have easily done this record alone. Awful, awful disgrace. The only saving grace is that it made me appreciate Load and Reload a lot more. Compared to this that ain't that fuckin bad man.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by : loser
6/9/2003 6:46:35 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
... they should've just used a crash cymbal for a snare ...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I agree Xenocide
posted by :
6/9/2003 6:50:43 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
If Metallica wanted a raw album then they needed to use a four track in Rob's garage. They were it a studio, had a producer, heaps of time, and Pro-tools. What came out was an album Bob Rock should be ashamed of. At least Lars has been practicing but Kirk, forget about surfing "dude" and practice some chops. Jimmy is rolling in his grave with your silent performance. Kurt is dead, time to solo. They didn't want to sound like 80's metal? Just listen too it. It could have screaming solo's and still be "new Metallica".
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | another opinion
posted by :
6/9/2003 6:56:31 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Songs: are ok. Bit too long. But heavy, which is a relief.
Production: SUCKS!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | really good review
posted by :
6/9/2003 7:25:12 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
i think the raw nature of the album, reacting against the way metal is becoming pop music, is a positive step- it sounds as if Jaymz is singing right to you, in the room with you. the guitars play off each other well, the music is uncompromising.
and those who don't like it, PLEASE listen to it several times before tossing it aside, there is some great stuff here, and i really respect Metallica, of all bands, for making this record. Frantic, Some Kind Of Monster, My World and Unnamed Feeling just stomp, bash and crush, i love the sound of this album, the feeling they've captured of four guys jamming, and the DVD is very cool, especially since Rob Trujillo couldn't be involved in the recording of the actual album! thank you metallica!
will i listen to this in a year? maybe, maybe not, but the sentiments, the direction, the feeling, are all there, which makes me hope this is the start of a second wind for metallica. stay true to yourselves and rock on boys!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | with that kind of shit they fit in well to shitty sanitaruium tourmates limp bizkit linkin park etc.
posted by :
6/9/2003 7:25:50 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
with that kind of shit they fit in well to shitty sanitaruium tourmates limp bizkit linkin park etc.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Urgh!
posted by : Bakula
6/9/2003 7:46:54 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Aggressive yet very unoriginal and unintelligent riffs. Lyrics are horrible. It appears that they put zero effort into songwriting and arranging the music. Basically, I got the impression that they were making up the songs as they went.
I like the cover.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | eh
posted by : David Kirk Beale
6/9/2003 8:36:39 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
i just want to say, for the record, that this review SEEMS to be on the level, until he points out that ...And Justice for All is "probably the worst of their first four"...not so, my friend. Not so at all...therefore his entire review isn't credible...sorry.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I agree with Xenocide
posted by :
6/9/2003 8:37:15 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This album is just plain weak. The riffs are indeed boring and so is the song structure in ALL songs. That's right.....i didn't like a single fucking song on this album, the whole thing stinks.
This album was an awful attempt for Metallica to redeem themselves and reclaim the throne. It didn't work, i would rather listen to Reload anytime over this, at least Kirk still sounds like a half decent guitar player in it.
And by the way........WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THIS REVIEW??? If i wanted to know about the history of Rock during the 90's i could've asked my fucking music teacher, Don Kaye is a fucking dolt.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Shity Album!!!
posted by : Eternally_rotting
6/9/2003 8:52:59 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Really bad. Don't know sure what was on their minds. Horrible production and long songs that are only the same song played 3 times. My suggestion: Wait 'til this album is sold as BEST BUY or buy it used. And not for the cd, which is crap, but for the DVD, which is the same album with the same shitty songs, played better with a sound that is much better, and finds the band with Trujullo on bass, a thing is always a thing too watch. METALLICA R.I.P.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ?
posted by :
6/9/2003 8:56:20 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This has already been said, but, ...And Justice for all was and is a great album. St. Anger on the other hand is a sad attempt at a metal album. For some reason it sounds like Hetfield is rapping instead of singing. I am suprised that a DJ and a turntable were not added. I can't believe that this garbage ever left the studio, let alone produced by anyone with any discernable talent. Luckily I was able to download the album without wasting my money.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | FUCK YOU YOU FUCK FUCKER
posted by : nadir
6/9/2003 9:04:02 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Hey Don, your fucking review just shows that you dont no nothing about what 'metal music' really is......"1988, the formula was getting predictable — and the band sensed it as well. For them to have kept that blueprint would have been creative suicide"....the only thing predictable is that they're doing nu-metal crap now, and therfore committed suicide and not a creative one either... oh and by the way you forgot to rate this album ???? too chicken shit ah!!! how much did they pay you?? let me do it for you you fuckn looser
1/10
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | This review
posted by : Suckasstro
6/9/2003 9:15:33 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I don't own a Metallica CD and have never called myself a Metallica fan, so I don't give a damn about their CD.
This review, however, is probably the biggest piece of tripe in the archive of Blabbermouth reviews. Don Kaye seems more interested in showing that he "knows music" through name dropping (of already "well known" bands, no less), a broad and short, short, short version of how this CD came about, and talk of production values. Too bad that all comes off as an excuse as to why Metallica hasn't returned to the old days. Hell, all that shit could just be clipped and just state that Metallica is not the same band they were 20 years ago. The whole "Things change, deal with it" reason works a lot better than the "You're an idiot if you thought they'd be going back to an old sound and here are all the reasons I could think" excuse that you decided to use.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | What a pathetic Kiss-ass review...
posted by : Mad Max
6/9/2003 9:29:15 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Seriously, the new Metallica album BLOWS. St. Anger is the biggest pile of shit Metallica has ever released by far. 100 times worse than even Load or Reload. 50 times worse than the 1st disc of Garage Inc.! The production is so awful that any good riffs played are lost in the mix. Hetfield's voice is 1/6th of what it used to be. The lyrics are childish, and downright retarded. There are no guitar solos, Kirk obviously isn't even trying anymore. The songs are way too long and go nowhere.
The only small improvement is surprisingly some of Lars Ulrich's drum playing!
Anyway, fuck this review because it's obviously written by a kiss-ass Metallica fan who would like any piece of shit the band puts out and defend it to his death.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Blown money on Garage Production
posted by :
6/9/2003 9:51:52 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I only heard one song so far. What I want to know is if they were looking for a garage sound then why didn't they record it IN A GARAGE like Garage days. Why did they spend millions of dollars with "Mr Compression" Bob Rock trying to "make " a garage sound. In my experience as a recording engineer - snare is aweful and too far in the front of the mix -drop Hetfield's vocals back in the mix and add some space -bring the guitars up (this is a metal band trying to sound heavy isn't it) -drop the cheesy bass parts back in the mix -some of the vocals are as generic as a teenage garage band. = Dissapointment so far. I am willin g to listen to the rest though.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | well...
posted by :
6/9/2003 9:53:01 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
okay first off I said fuckit, pick the fucker up, see if they woke up or not. Metallica was my beacon back in '88, and although I refuse to acknowledge Load/Reload I guess I got sentimental and now Lars has my ten bucks. (go get lit--WITHOUT James!...ok, sorry...)
listening to this mudfest unfold as I barrelled down I-95 drew some parallels to some post-Eddie Clarke Motorhead albums I'd been bummed out by in terms of production, riffs, and lack of dynamics. I don't know if James wrote any music while recovering, but that stanard loop of E-G-A-E chords got a little tired after a while.
But why did I feel hooked nonetheless? Was I on some nostalgia trip, like cheering on an 18-year old doggie who USED to be able to jump up on the couch?
I don't always trust my first impressions. This album wasn't / isn't a complete waste of money, most of what I listen to today is more along the lines of Hate Eternal or Nile anyway. Somehow I have a feeling St. Anger will grow on me after a while and will not be recycled (not BY ME anyway) into any used-CD bin. But when I'm in the mood for nostalgic Metallica, Ride the Lightning it is for me.
also for the record, Garage Inc. had brought me back into the fold somewhat, so it's OK if y'all think I'm doomed at this point, I guess. There's still a lot of potential in metal and Metallica will always be legendary as Sabbath, but why do I feel like the band has inevitably sidelined themselves with this album...
"Hey, let's make it sound like a demo..."
Jesus, this will be a polarizing debate though so I guess the reviewer had a point there...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I guess Lars will sue the reviewers this time
posted by : Jarlaxle
6/9/2003 9:57:20 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This is not a bad review overall. I agree with most of his opinions. But why rate it N/A? Is Lars going to sue reviewers? Well, my rating is 5/10. Bottomline is: There are some good moments in the album, but there are also too many flaws and annoying things that prevents me from liking the album. And shitty production makes it worse.
And i don't buy the idea "giving us something to talk about is a sucess". Metallica has become one of the most dominant heavy metal bands, of course everyone will talk about them when they release an album after six years. If you think it's not successful just say it.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St. Anger is great!
posted by :
6/9/2003 10:04:47 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Shitty production? Yes, muddy guitars & tin can drums. Vocals are raw, but god, it makes the songs ALIVE. Its all goos for these songs. NOTHING like polished nu metal crap.
How can you NOT feel the songs? If you dismissed it just because you didn't like the sound I advise you to listen to it again.
I'm not a Metallica sheep. I hated Load/Reload when they came. I can stand them now, but I still think there's a couple of BAD songs on them. I like all songs on St Anger.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Underground
posted by :
6/9/2003 10:49:37 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Underground bands lack ambition or talent! If your trying to tell me that ANYONE in mainstream music has the skills of say, Opeth or the Amott brothers from Arch Enemy, then I must be missing something. And ambition? Well, I just saw Lacuna Coil with Tapping the VEin, and before and after their set I saw the frontwoman for Tapping selling merch at the front of the metro. She did this at the house of blues when they played with Opeth earlier this year. Lets not forget that many of these bands hold second jobs....Basically, what I'm trying to say is, the new Metallica sucks (and i am a diehard fan here), so go buy some Opeth.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | In a word
posted by : AfroChicken
6/9/2003 11:03:40 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Pah
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | MetallicA
posted by :
6/9/2003 11:08:52 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
i think you all are pussies and do not know true metal and what it takes to make a great album with the world watching you the whole time knowing that millions of people are going to hear it, but they still did something new and fresh, so fuck off
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ONCE AGAIN....
posted by : Richie Cuntingham
6/9/2003 11:19:55 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
THEY HAVE DROPPED ANOTHER LOAD OF SHIT ON US, THIS TIME IT'S JUST PAINTED A DIFFERENT COLOR THAN LOAD AND RELOAD....I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT BULLSHIT ABOUT THEM NOT RETURNING TO THEIR ROOTS BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THERE...THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CREATIVITY TO RETURN THERE!!!!! DON'T MAKE EXCUSES....THE TIME IS RIPE FOR THEM TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND BRING METAL SCREAMING INTO THE 2000'S AND WHAT DID THEY GIVE US? A JUMBLED, DIRECTIONLESS PIECE OF SHIT, WITHOUT SOLOS NO LESS!!!! THE RIFFS ARE HEAVY...SO WHAT!!!!! WHERE ARE THE INCREDIBLY TIGHT, SCALPEL SHARP STRUCTURES AND RIFFS OF OLD?!!?!?!? I'LL TELL YOU WHERE, OBLIVION...THEY CAN'T DO IT ANY MORE!!!!!! THE BEST NEWS AND RELEASE OF THE YEAR WILL BE THE NEW EXODUS...TRUST ME, THIS WILL BE THE ALBUM OF THE YEAR AND WILL BE THE ALBUM TO SAY....HEY SHITALLICA, THIS IS THE WAY IT'S DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! BRING ON TEMPO OF THE DAMNED!!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | First time I heard "St-Anger"...
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:00:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I was dissappointed... But know, it has grown on me... My opinion will be definitive in not less than a month...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by : TheGrimReaper
6/9/2003 12:07:03 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Great album
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | So why DIDN'T you just give it 8 out of 10 then?
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:25:42 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I mean that's what the damn rating's there for moron.
Awesome album though!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Fuck
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:26:36 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I like this album. The production doesn't bother me. The drum sounds don't bother me. Hetfields voice doesn't bother me. The songs don't really call for solos. It is a solid, heavy, emotional release. The lyrics are a little repetitive, thats true. But it still doesn't bother me. Metallica never ever said they were returning to their roots. This was something implied by media and hopefull fans. I seem to be able to hear the bass ok. It's there. This album is so fresh, it is truly a kick in the face to modern metal. I'll be interested to see what the next Metallica album has to offer. You can't get much more against the grain then this. It's fine if you don't like the cd, thats your opinion-but in no way shaoe or form is this trendy or nu metal. End of story.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | metallica is stupid
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:33:27 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
hey all you idiots out in blabbermouth, if you want to fuckin listen to what metallica should of/could of sounded likepick up shadows fall - the art of balance,if you want something fuckin raw listen to superjoint ritual, but dont waste your time with metallica and go fuck yourself
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | There are very FEW moments....
posted by : brickshithouse
6/9/2003 12:35:50 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
that I can take on this cd. The rest is truly painful to listen to. That "ooooohhhh" bullshit in Invisible Kid is like gettin' spontaneously kicked in the balls...you just don't do shit like that...
Plus, what used to the one of the greatest, meanest yet goofy, larger that life-yet one of us, front-men in metal is now a watered-down, institutionalized, been-through-therapy, shell of his former self. I appreciate all the man has been through and respect and recognize the struggles' within' but really...Hetfield used to be unfuckingtouchable in regards to pure intensity, timing, heart and yes....METAL!! Now(since '91)...he tries way too hard and too often to actually sing and it's not good...really.....not good at all.
These guys are so pathetically far-removed from a scene they helped create...it's really quite staggering...
St. Anger is uncomfortable and painful to listen to...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | bob rock...
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:36:08 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
and bob rock is a peice of shit
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Mixed Feelings...
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:36:37 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
My freind bought the album and we listened to the whole album. When i first heard it was kinda of impressed just with the heavyness but after that wears off you see the album for what it is. A disapointment, sure it's very heart felt with the lyrics and stuff but thats doesn't mean James and Kirk couldn't have wrote some better riffs to go with songs. It sounds like there not even trying, I was hoping metallica might return to there thrash roots or atleast go in a better metal route. but lets face it no solo's and the way they sound they really should change there name to nutallica
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St Anger
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:48:12 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
If all you guys hate so much then why do you listen?you all know its going to suck.you just keep wishing its going to be like it used to.i liked RTL,MOP and AJFA but Metallica was always overrated.Slayer always were better than metallica.their new stuff isnt as good as their old,but atleast Slayer can make decent records nowdays.fuck metallica,bunch of greedy fucks.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | A (former) metallica fanatic's impression of St. Anus
posted by : the Dude
6/9/2003 12:50:48 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I have a close friend who is (was) the most extreme, dedicated, biggest metallica fanatic I've ever known. I mean, this guy used to live and breathe metallica.
Well, Thursday I was with him when he bought the cd ('cause I sure as hell wasn't going to spend MY money on it). Keep in mind that he loves (loved) metallica so much that he still owns Load and Reload even though he hates the music, and never listens to them. Well, we sat in his truck and listened to the album, all the while a look of complete and utter disgust forming on his face.
He made many comments about the shitty production, the fucking GAY-ASS rapping on several songs, and the general worthlessness of each track, etc.
But it didn't really hit home to me how bad this album is for long-time, die-hard metallica fans until we were done listening and I witnessed something I thought I would never see: There was my metallica fanatic friend, with the cd in one hand and a pair of plyers in the other. He very calmly and methodically proceeded to cut up, mutilate and completely destroy the cd.
I said, "What are you doing?? You could've at least sold it used and gotten $4 bucks back!"
His reply? "I don't care. That's how pissed off I am. This piece of shit doesn't deserve to exist. I hate this band now".
I think this story pretty much sums it up, don't you?
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | .5 / 10
posted by :
6/9/2003 12:51:54 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Yet another disappoinment from a once legendary metal band. This one, combined with the two previous ass-loads, will definately tarnish their legacy and set in motion the end of this tired act.
Nuff said.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St. Anger = negative -10 out of 10
posted by : MalevolentCreation216
6/9/2003 1:07:04 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This album is a god awful... How can anyone on this planet like this shit? Just because Metallica is on the cover of the CD doesn't mean its good. We all know they have more bad years than good. Fuck Lars, James, Kirk, and Bob Cock ..... they all suck dick and should never play their instruments again..... NEVER!!! I tell you, I was the only one out of everyone I talked to that believed they weren't going back to their roots. Who the fuck said there were blast beats on here? Who the fuck said this album was the most technical album ever? I swear to God get people who actually know what the fuck they are talking about before they review an album. Lastly, Don Kaye, don't ever insult underground talent by saying they lack the talent of Metallica. Get the fuck out of here!!! Listen to Cryptopsy, The Crown, Malevolent Creation, Children of Bodom, even fucking new Chimaira shits on this album. New Chimaira is very impressive I must say but thats not the point. Don't buy this album please. The quicker Metallica realizes they suck dick now, the better
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | The crown sits still and well.
posted by :
6/9/2003 1:28:09 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Yeah love that crown man it takes a while to realy digest the implications but after a while you realise there was no other place where that CROWN belonged but on METALLICA's HEAD.
FUCK THE NON BELIVERS.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | this must be the sanitarium...
posted by :
6/9/2003 1:36:32 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
it must be career threatening to give an honest review of this album. don kaye...you must have taken leave of your senses! what a horrible album....unimaginably horrid. i am in total agreement with whoever said where is kirk hammet?
st. anger- what a pile of shit. i will definitely never purchase another metallica album after this one...pure shit. the snare drum sound is pathetic, the vocals are godawful- Hetfield is doomed singing sober! the guitar sound is awful. no standout solos or melodies, or dynamics that grab you. Sadly, this album will sell several million- and it is utter garbage. it is so bad as to be disgusting! they tried to be aggressive again- but if you're heart aint in it, and you aint' feelin' it, it will show...and it does here. listen to that attempted speed part on the song st. anger, with the double bass and that shitcan snare...it sounds like a car bogged down in second gear...it's comical...i literally play that song to laugh at the attempted speed part...
want something worth listening to...try Overkill's latest- Killbox 13! Now that's a great album!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Blabbermouth Sell-out Review
posted by : suaron
6/9/2003 1:37:01 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
What the hell is NA? To quote "A numerical rating simply doesn't sum up the album's many features and characteristics." Then he comes back with an 8/10?
I get the impression Don Kaye wanted to shred the new album but didn't want to "offend" MetalliboB and thier worthless garbage.
How does quotes like the following lead to an 8/10? "James Hetfield's voice is dry and unproduced, cracking, not hitting notes, and sometimes straining. There are moments in the 75-minute running time when any one of these things, or a combination of them, is actively annoying or distracting."
Everything after seems like someones attempt to find and highlight the "positives."
Finally, the black album sucked Mr. Kaye, and their are people that actually hate it. The music is so card-board even the few semi-decent tunes have no replayability. Further, if actually read any posts here you'll find the majority of posters prefer "RTL" or "MOP" not "KEA."
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | well written review
posted by :
6/9/2003 2:02:18 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I only wish he never rated the album. as someone who's written many album reviews in my life, I feel the point of a music review should not be to pass judgement (it is, after all, a work of art, and art is subjective). instead—like Mr. Kaye did—the review should describe the music and place it in perspective of the band's entire career (provided it's not their debut album). and he made some great points.
and to "eh", critically speaking, "Justice" is the weakest of the band's first four albums. there was NO bass guitar, many of the songs were too long and it was the first time (though not the last time) that Metallica actually put lame songs on their album to fill space (i.e. "Frayed Ends" and "Eye of the Beyolder").
St. Anger may not be great, but it's a helluva lot better than the "Load" (of shit) albums. face it—they will never ever make another Master of Puppets. if you always compare their new album to their old albums, you will always be disappointed.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Re: suaron, etc.
posted by : donkaye
6/9/2003 2:04:49 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
For the record, guys, I did not want to shred this album. I like it, for all the reasons I state in the review, including some of what you perceive as negative (i.e. James's voice cracking). I am also not afraid of saying anything negative about Metallica. I love every album except Load and Reload and think those two are resounding failures. I have not spoken to those guys in several years, but if Lars walked in my office right now and asked, I wouldn't hesitate to tell him what I thought. And he probably (and rightly) wouldn't give a flying fuck.
I know the black album continues to divide people, but I think it was a great fusion of their old sound with a different approach. You may agree or not, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
For the record, my favorites remain Master and Ride, two of the best metal albums ever made.
As for the numerical rating: for the last time, I did not give one at first because I am really starting to hate those stupid little ratings. I mean, really, what the hell is a difference between a 5 and a 6, or a 7 and an 8? Upon re-reading the review, however, I was able to come to some sort of conclusion about that, which is why I added it at the end. Guess what, sometimes your thoughts about something change. But in the long run, the number means nothing. With all its flaws, warts, weirdness, and quirks, the album sounds fresh, alive and rocks hard. If you think differently, good for you. Don't buy, don't listen, don't talk about it if it makes you so mad. There's plenty of other music out there to listen to.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by :
6/9/2003 2:17:16 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
the infernal combustion review should be universal...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Personally
posted by :
6/9/2003 2:21:21 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I just had to comment to the post above mine about AJFA. I personally Love the song Eye of the beholder(at least try and spell it right if your insulting it) I think its a great song And think AJFA is a extremely good cd though not as Good as MOP or RTL.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Don Kay is a fuckin RETARD
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 2:22:45 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Don, how fuckin stupid can you get you fuckin retarded ape! Do you actually know what your talking about ? Metallica this metallica that fuck metallica! You think they dont have the same musical skills? what the fuck are you babling about, they should be even better with years you retarded ape! Maybe you should open your eyes and see what real music is, Iron Maiden and Slayer for exemple they've doing music longer then those idiots metallica and they still play masterpieces. So shut your mouth before saying so stupid crap. Next time look and listen before you do a review you!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | a true metal masterpiece...
posted by :
6/9/2003 2:34:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
is the new self-titled cd from MASTERPLAN. it makes me feel like i'm discovering metal all over again just like i felt about metal in 1983 with debut albums from (used to be) metallica, slayer, anthrax, mercyful fate, celtic frost, anvil, razor.etc.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Great Review, Don!
posted by : Metalisforlife
6/9/2003 2:36:58 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Fantastic review...no wonder you are considered one of the best out there in the Metal Journalism world.
To all of you who hate the new album - it's cool with me, because then we'll have the REAL Metallica fans left after you jump onto the next bandwagon. How's your ankles? Jumping from trend to trend must be tough on all you whiners.
Grow up, Metallica did. This isn't '86 anymore. Slayer grew up, so did Sepultura and Megadeth. Open your minds, and grow a spine.
Dale
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | HellRazor....
posted by : brickshithouse
6/9/2003 2:37:57 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
CALM DOWN!!!!!!
geez...
PS: AJFA is the LAST Metallica album in my world...
The Black album SUX balls...overproduced, lyrically infantile crap...
My 2 cents (again)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Brickshithouse...
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 2:50:47 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
How the hell am i supposed to calm down! when I see a shit review like this on a shit album like that! FOR FUCKS SAKE! this is mockery to all metal !
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | agree with Motleyorc
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:02:56 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
at least I've got pre-load. They've just gotten greedier and greedier.I"ve never boughtanyting new, always used. I don't want to give rich, overpaid fucks like them any more of my money than I have to. tk
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | WHY THE FUCK
posted by : Kill Me
6/9/2003 3:05:22 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
WAS MESHUGGAH MENTIONED IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS THE DATSUNS AND STAIND? STUPID FUCKERS
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ST. Anger = Masterpiece
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:06:36 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
All you hardcore "metal head" underground fans are so lame it's not even funny. Listen to the damn album. Fuck all of you download shitty ass quality songs (ooo and think you are getting Lars where it hurts...ooo I'm sure by the end of the month when they have their platinum certification he'll be aching for your 10$ you cheap fucks) Or you bought the album and didn't give it a real listen. THIS IS A METAL MASTERPIECE. THIS IS MOTHERFUCKING METALLICA. And that’s why, you ignorant fucks, you need to listen to it, more than once, with an open mind. If you want to hate it, you will. If you stop bitching about every little thing you can come up with and try to talk about how you are audio engineers or technical guitarists, god shut the fuck up...Everybody I know is an amazing guitarist or a studio engineer, that doesn't mean shit so get off your pedestal. All the old Metallica classics, the more you listened the more you loved, and the same goes for this gem. I dare any of you to listen to it like 4 times, front to back, over like 3 days and then come back and tell me what you think. The production, length of songs, lack of solos, drum sound, vocal sound all start to make sense and sound INCREDIBLE. It's going to be funny watching everyone jump on the metallica wagon again. God damn when St. Anger (the single ) was released EVERYONE was bitching and moaning , but then when they heard it more and more , people can't fucking get enough of it . Same with the whole album.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | dh YOUR A FUCKIN RETARDED APE
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 3:13:55 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Dh you fuckin idiot you call that a masterpiece, its more like a piece of shit! you dirty hardcore metallica fans are fuckin idiots! When are you people gonna understand that THERE IS NO MORE METALLICA! Its over! you need to evoluate! you fuckin retarded ape! Metallica cant play for their lives, If i ever see kirk hammet id take his fuckin guitar, do a kick ass solo and fuckin shuv his guitar up his ass, for not being able to do solo's anymore! And your stupid point of listening to the album 4 times!? ARE YOU FUCKIN NUTS? I had a hard time listening to it ONCE ! I usually listen to an album 2 times MAX and I like it! not 4 times, that means your force yourself into liking it! you dumbass
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Very disappointing
posted by : biggusdickus
6/9/2003 3:14:51 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I don't have a problem with the songs...don't like them all, but there's something there. The sloppiness of the album is a slap in the face. The production, arrangements, lack of solos, and on and on. I think this could be a great album with another month or so of hard work and a new producer. Bob Rock should be ashamed of himself for the way this cd sounds. If you don't like the other albums he worked on, that's understandable, but you know they sounded great. If you don't like the songs, blame Hetfield.
1. Master of Puppets 2. Black 3. Ride the Lightning 4. Kill em All 5. And Justice for All . . . . . 6. Load . . . . . . . 7. ReLoad . . . . . 8. St. Anger
The first 5 are interchangeable depending on your taste. They are a unit that tells a story and fit together well (if you don't like Black, wake up and get over it). St. Anger is another in the growing line of confused, directionless Metallica albums. At least Load gave us Until it Sleeps, Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn. I ReSold ReLoad, but Feul and the Memory Remains are great live songs that could probably be put in a greatest hits collection. I can't find anything to take from St. Anger.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | HellRazor...
posted by : brickshithouse
6/9/2003 3:21:45 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
That's the fuckin' truth...
Most reviews are wishy washy corporate kiss-ass bullshit anyway...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | PuSSyRaZoR
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:24:26 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Eat a dick. Bitch. Yea you fucking maestro guitarist. Get a fucking life. You think you are a better guitarist than Kirk because he opted not to play a solo on the latest album (after a CATALOGUE of amazing incredible solo's and riffs) Fuck, you aren't even worth humbling. Life will do it for me. You stupid little bitch.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by : MetalMet
6/9/2003 3:25:25 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
At first I didn't see why people said Nu-Metallica but now I understand it a lot more. Simplistic songs aside, it's the appeal to teen angst. I mean it's not as bad as Korn crying about being the loser in high school or along those lines, but look at the lyrics.
Compare KEA through even Reload and to me all of the albums before this one could appeal to kids AND adults. And while St. Anger isn't completely geared towards teen angst, it feels like they tried to go for that nu-metal theme. The songs just seem even more geared towards kids where with the rest of their album I can see myself still listening to them when I'm in my mid-30s.
That and what the fuck man? Did Kirk not show up to the recording? There's no lead guitar. And I don't buy the 'It's a jam album' bullshit. Kirk can jam up a solo or some lead guitar in a jam album. Don't hand me that lol.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | DVD marketing genuis
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:27:10 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I bought the cd for the sole reason of getting the dvd. Being able to listen to an album for the first time and watch the artist play live in the studio was wicked. Kirk's vocals made me laugh everytime. Now if only other bands would follow suit and do this as well maybe Metallica could be trend setters again instead of trend followers. (Iron Maiden are you listening?) Did the batteries die in Kirks wah pedal? (no pun intended)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Woke Up Dead
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:30:36 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Man, it's all politics. It should be, "If you put it in the player and you like it, then great. If you don't like it don't buy it." I myself like this album so I feel lucky to have one more album that I can enjoy.
I hated this album at first. Probably because I believed (foolishly) in all the comaparisons to older albums. You pretty much have to go into an album like this with no expectations. Once I got used to the production and that snare sound it was all gravy.
Who gives a fuck about the review? You know you had already made up your mind before reading it so it's not like it would have helped you.
Stop expecting the 1980's to come back with a vengeance.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | nu-metal(lica)
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:38:47 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
metallica = poop
www.anewlowrecords.com
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | DH......
posted by : brickshithouse
6/9/2003 3:40:13 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
As a matter of FACT, I have had the cd for 5 fucking days and have listened to at home and in car for a total of 6 or 7 times....ALL the way through...
Fuck you for assuming that we metalheads are too closeminded to give it a 'real' listen. I fuckin' did.
AND I don't WANT to hate this album...I really wanted to like it and seriously tried...
I'TS CRAP!!! Just good 'ole fashioned BADLY written music. It's amazing how much it hurts to listen to this...
Anybody know the Tom Petty song "When Money Becomes King"....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Fuck the bullshit
posted by :
6/9/2003 3:46:40 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
First of all, Metallica is not, never was, and never will be the kings of metal. I can't believe this idiotic belief that floats around amongst the masses. For fucks sake they only released four albums that can be considered metal. They shouldn't even be allowed to have metal in their name now. Iron Maiden is, was and always will be the greatest heavy metal band ever, don't like it oh well deal with it. If the metal band you listen to weren't influenced by Maiden, they were at least influenced by another band that was. Deal with it.
The saddest part is that Metallica themselves have bought into their own hype pushed out by their retarded fans and the press. News flash guys the guy at Rolling Stone doesn't know Metal from the Beach Boys. I've never seen a band so willing to overlook their contemporaries. Kirk's fucking comments about how he thinks other bands will play heavier music now because of them. News flash Kirk, I know you and the rest of the band were too drunk to remember much of the 80s but metal does not begin and end with Metallica. Of course, on second thought their contemporaries now are nu-metal bands, in fact he even refered to Limp Bizkit after that comment. So maybe he's right.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Don Kaye & Rating Systems
posted by : suaron
6/9/2003 3:55:23 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
"I mean, really, what the hell is a difference between a 5 and a 6, or a 7 and an 8?"
Huge differences...maybe you need to think in terms of grades to see it.
10 "A+" superior effort 9 "A-" Superior effort w/some very minor (picky) flaws that just keep it from just being perfect. 8 B Solid Album well worth your money. Everything fits together as a whole, though minor flaws in detract from the overall presentation. 7 C Overall the album has some good moments roughly 60-65% and some bad moments 35-40%(slightly more good than bad). The album will probably not win any new fans over to the band. 6 D There are major problems with the album. Such as major sound quality issues, poor performance issues, presentation, etc. Roughly the album is a 50/50 split between good/bad songs. Only the most devoted fans will really find things to praise on this album. 1-5 F Are essentially degrees of garbage. The lower the number the more likely fans will probably not purchase future records from said band.
Based on your review you put the album somewhere between a 6-7. Its like you're an overly kind teacher trying to find ways to prop up the bands grade.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Xenocide you are so right my friend
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 4:21:22 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
FUCKIN RIGHT Iron maiden is and will always be the GREATEST METAL BAND OF ALL TIME ! you fuckin retards with your metallica shit. Maiden has more influence in metal in their first album then metallica in all their lame ass shit career.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | haha
posted by :
6/9/2003 4:32:46 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
i dont get it. it tells the truth the album sucks and yet he still says an 8. it should be 3. if it is indeed a JAM albm which I think it is shame on them for not giving us a real one. get your asses back in the studio and try again bitches
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Metallica NOT the Kings Of Metal?
posted by : Metalisforlife
6/9/2003 5:12:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
That is one of the most uninformed statements I have ever heard.
It sure as hell isn't:
Pantera Sabbath Megadeth Slayer
Who else has sold over 85 million albums, yet still stayed true to what they believed in? You just hate them because they aren't your little secret band.
Dale
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Rap? You have got to be kidding me...
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:18:48 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Any one of you fuckers who thinks for a split second there is any rap on this album need a fucking CAT scan. You obviously haven't listened to the album, haven't listened to rap, and have no knowledge of music in general. Instead, you spit out fucking unsubstantiated bullshit in hopes it deters someone from liking a band that you do not. Do anti-metallica fans work? I find it amazing how much time someone who doesn't like puts into bitching about it, especially when the comment is more then a paragraph wrong. I feel I don't have enough free time to post comments about albums I don't like, I usually only have time to praise albums I do. Maybe you should try it.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Hmm!
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:21:16 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
St.Anger is good...but not great.It contains a few good songs with a lot of fillers.Same for Load,re-load and Black album.The first 4 albums were real Gems.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | if
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:22:58 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
If Metallica are not the kings of metal, it has to Iron Maiden, NO-ONE else comes close.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | The sheep are all looking for justification for their ten bones
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:27:42 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I love how the sheep keep saying "I hated St. Anger at first. Just listen to it a 5-6 times and it will grow on you." So will fucking elevator music. That doesn't make it good. Why do you think that horrible mainstream shit we ALL hate spews out of our radio stations all day long?
nu-Tallica music has deteriorated into experimental mediocrity. But I will give the nu-Tallica Inc. marketing department an A+ for keeping the cash flowing. Turds sell... and the sheep are buying.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | The album is good
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:48:02 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
That review was dead on. The minority is always the loudest. I don't believe that the masses agree with those of you who hate this album so much. Yeah, it's not '85er metal. So fucking what. So, it's probably the sloppiest album by ANY band in years. So fucking what. These songs are in your face and full of emotion. I totally respect that some don't like it, but to discredit Metallica as the most influential metal band of all time is absurd. To talk about them as if they are some second rate numetal band is disrespectful. Also, what's with the opinions on the review? Just because the reviewer happens to like the album he's a sellout and a kiss ass? That's some logic. You hard core metal Metallica bashers are some of the biggest elitists on this planet. You are as bad as the rich honor roll kids you hated in high school. Sometimes I hate metal fans.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Here is what I hate.
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:52:10 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I hate people that include " \m/ " that symbol in their message. Why don't you fucking type like a 12 year old computer geek while you are at it. Do you feel proud? that you made a wanna be "devil sign" on the computer screen?? You people are not fit to shovel my BM.
PS. The Matallica album blows. Lars can eat my BM for having such a poor drum sound. This so called "album" feels more like some publicity stunt to make money and headlines rather than making an album of decent rock and roll.
Somewhere, CLIFF BURTON is glad he is dead and not associated with these BM eaters.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ...
posted by :
6/9/2003 5:58:47 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Can I have my 10 bucks back? or maybe not seems I have 2 coasters for my beers!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | That was a very long review..
posted by :
6/9/2003 6:02:31 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
..which said very little about the album..
What is with this "Metallica are making a statement againt produced CD's. They wanted it to sound crappy, because CD's don't sound crappy anymore.." And then they do something stupid like give it an 8 out of 10.
Music is suppose to sound good. If you actually believe that crap, let me save you $14. Turn your television to a station that doesn't exist, and just watch the static for a few hours. And to fully experience the St. Anger experience, get a friend to stand at the top of a flight of stairs holding a wheelbarrow full of pots, pans, and garbage cans. Before this invite a teenage boy over who is just going through puberty (who's voice cracks all the time).
Now turn the static TV station up, get the puberty boy to sing a song from St. Anger, and get your friend to dump the pots, pans, and garbage cans down the stairs. And there you go St.Anger, Live in your own home.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | As I said in a previous article, I USED TO HATE THIS ALBUM!
posted by :
6/9/2003 6:19:32 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
But after my 5th or 6th time hearing it, I am finally beginning to enjoy it and like it more and more. It is VERY different than ANYTHING they have done before and I think it was a bold and wise move. Everyone give this album a chance, and try to forget about everything you knew about Metallica. The "gay" lyrics are actually fairly deep and everything seems to go well, with the exception of some very repetitive shit ie. "All within my hands."
GIVE IT A CHANCE!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | No one was "misled" into expecting reprise of Master Of Puppets
posted by : yoadrie
6/9/2003 6:53:55 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
But no one was expecting lousy music, ridiculous lyrics, noise masquerading as heaviness, and no low end, either. And from http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=12348
Elektra Chairman/CEO Sylvia Rhone added: "...After 11 albums and 20 years, the anticipation for their new studio album has exceeded all our expectations...the demand has been unprecedented. It's been a textbook marketing plan..."
...according to Elektra Entertainment Group Exec. VP/GM Greg Thompson. "This release is a true event, and shows a tremendous amount of evolution and drama," he said in an official statement. "Those lucky enough to have heard it are blown away. It adds up to an exciting time for the quintessential rock band in the world to return to the marketplace with an epic record...Every testosterone-charged male and a lot of women will be in record stores celebrating St. Anger's Day with 74 minutes of new songs and a [bonus] live DVD that will rock their balls off. Did I really say that?"
Sounds more like an EPITAPH record to me.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Great review, Shit CD!!
posted by : Crazyass
6/9/2003 7:00:59 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
All I'm going to say is THANK GOD FOR IRON MAIDEN.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | GREAT CD
posted by : cassirad
6/9/2003 7:20:05 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
That's all I say
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Is Bob Rock related to Don Kaye ?
posted by : JohnXl
6/9/2003 7:28:49 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Holy Thunderforce ! Bob Rock produces the worst album of all time,and Don Kaye (who wont give a rating,but if he had to would give it an 8)doesnt have the BALLS to tell the truth. This album blows...the sound is terrible...bullshit tin can drums,horrible muddy guitars that sound like they are coming out of a bass amp,stupid lyrics and songs that are long for no reason at all.(all they do is repeat the begining over again)and since Bob Rock pistolwhipped Kirk on his lead playing and lack of working out his solo`s(re:its on video !)he doesnt even attempt to play any now. Making it noisy and raw doesnt make it metal. It just makes it sound like a bad garage band recording a lousy underproduced demo. And no,this isnt about Metallica not sounding like old Metallica,this is about a crappy album that makes the Load/Reload shit sound like a freakin` classic. The real Metallica died with Cliff Burton. The Black album was a commercial hit,and all the ideas dried up ever since. Bob Rock should be ashamed of himself,he should give Metallica thier money back and reviewers should be truthful by telling people to save thier hard earned cash and not buy this abysmal piece of crap.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | METALLICA DIED UNDER A BUS IN 1986
posted by :
6/9/2003 7:33:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
...and to metalisforlife: who the fuck cares how many albums these former metalheads have sold? by your logic, the spice girls are better than slayer.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Why are we living in a retarded world like this ?
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 7:39:17 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Fuckin people makes me sick, this album makes me sick, its a fuckin discrace to metal, I wouldnt actually care if Metallica changed their band name ! now that stupid band name has metal in it! now people associate us metalheads with that idiotic band! fuckin shit album ! Who in their right mind would even think of buying that piece of over dried rat shit. Anyone with a bare minimum of concious would know better then this and would recognize that this album is MORE then PURE SHIT.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | AND ANOTHER THING FUCK WADS!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by :
6/9/2003 7:56:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
YOU CAN ONLY JUDGE A CD BY GIVING IT A LEAST TEN WHOLE SPINS, EVERY SONG
NOT 5 FUCKIN SECONDS OF EACH SONG THAT ALL YOU STUPID MOTHER FUCKERS BITCHING DO!!!
SO FUCK YOUR REVIEW, IT DOESN'T COUNT!!! FUCKWADS
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | shut up scumbag
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 7:58:45 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
If willing to waste my time writing a paragraph on how this album totaly suck is because I want to warn inoncent ears that didnt hear the album which is better NOT TO. you fuckin moron
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Hogghead are you some kind of retarded APE ?
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 8:12:36 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
you are seriously the most retarded person ive known you ass face, I dont even know what the fuck is cyndi lauper you fuckin scum, shut your mouth you fuckass metallica idiot fan, you think you can protect your precious SHITTY BAND you must be one hell of a retarded bastard
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Shut up you retard with with listening
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/9/2003 8:14:24 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I listened to the album once and I barely made it alive you fuckin idiot, This shit album cant be listened to IT SUCKS if you listen to it more then 2 times you fuckin retarded ape, that means you force yourself into liking it coz you're supposed to like it the first time you hear it you piece of shit cockbanger
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | NOW HOW ARE YOU IGNORANT BASTARDS DOING/????
posted by :
6/9/2003 8:17:00 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
ARE YOU LEARNING HOW TO JUDGE MUSIC YET????
LISTEN TO IT TEN FULL TIMES, EVERY SONG, AND AFTER THAT IF YOU STILL HATE IT, THEN BITCH, AND I WILL RESPECT YOUR OPINION
QUIT LISTEN TO FUCKIN 5 SECOND CLIPPITS AND MAKING A MORONIC JUDGEMENT ASS OUT OF YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | If there WERE solos...
posted by :
6/9/2003 8:20:18 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
you would all be saying "Gay Kirk and his fuckin wah pedal, wheres Kerry King?" You fucks will never be happy no matter what. Well boo hoo you don't like the new metallica cd. Go bury your face in MOP and wish it was 86. And the band has already said had Cliff been around still they would have made more experimental albums early on, as Cliff was really into classical shit.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Idiots and bigots!!!
posted by :
6/9/2003 8:26:44 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
everybody can have an opinion on the sound of the bew album, but stop bitchin about it. if you like to have a polished, computerized, fucking britney-spears-clean cd, then go and buy it!!!! but if you ever played in a lousy garage band, you'll know that that is around it sounds like. that's real. i love pre-black metallica, but no matte how i try i can't make my drums sound like those on AJAF or MOP. metallica decided to make the real sounding cd, and if you don' like it "because it doesn't sound nice and clean" than go fuck yourself. PS Kaye's rewiev is great, the first one that went deeper than "i love it" or "it sucks". respect for that.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | YOU DON'T AGREE WITH NUMERICAL RATINGS HUH?
posted by : Cloud Connected
6/9/2003 8:54:47 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Then why the fuck you rated every other albums you reviwed in this site. C'mon not even your mother is going to believe that.
BLABBERMOUTH'S CREDIBILITTY IS GONE TO ME.
Fuck Metallica. And their legions of cowards ass-kissers.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I agree with Fretmaster777!
posted by :
6/9/2003 9:12:01 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Well let me say first that I haven't heard the whole album yet, but I did hear/see the video on Headbanger's Ball this past weekend....SLIM! The vocals are just terrible, utterly! and the St. Anger doesn't flow at all....It is like they just pasted some riffs together.....The new guitar tuning is way low, and Lars although has his slipknot like sound he is trying for, didn't really play that fast! Digital editor anyone? It sounds to me like they are trying to be System of A Down with this release, but fail without question! Dude, I do understand the production whoos, and how they wanted a raw sound so they wouldn't sound like no one else on the radio, but I bet they still payed $250,000 or more on the album without pressings! I would much rather here a production like "Whoracle!" and last but not least....I am not a huge Metallica fan...I bailed ship at the Black album, but the reviewer says that And Justice was good in 88, but now is just dated......WHAT???? Trully good albums stand the test of time! Look at The Wall, Hemispheres, Dream Evil, Operation Mindcrime....Man get a clue about metal!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Goodbye
posted by :
6/9/2003 9:23:02 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This is the end. The end my friends. The nail has been driven and Bob Rock is the guy with the hammer. The producer that destroys all good bands. Should of used Fleming.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | One more time...
posted by :
6/9/2003 9:23:52 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I think they don't need one year to do a forgiven album... Where are the unforgiven riffs? I'm not talking about to make the same thing that they've done 10 or 15 years ago, but this sound can't stay in my mind. You know: - "Master! master!... Pahn, pahn, pahn...pahnahnah..." or "Sad but true..." That's sad but true my friend!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
posted by :
6/9/2003 9:51:57 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Are you guys really this obsessed with bashing Metallica? Are you that obsessed with living in the 80's? Why do you think bands like Slayer and Iron Maiden don't get reamed like Metallica?
Because they have made the same album 20 fucking times. I don't care if you love or hate St. Anger. But just the very fact that you are spending your time reading reviews and posting messages is just feeding the machine which has made Metallica big in the first place. Controversy can be a great rise to popularity. The more that hate you, the more that love you.
I love everything from old metal to nu-metal to new metal to death metal to post-death metal to metalcore to screamo. Why don't you guys open your fucking minds and get out of your little world metal in 1989.
THE WORLD HAS MOVED ON. WHY CAN'T YOU?!?
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | We don't Hate the songs we hate the production.
posted by : Mob Rules
6/9/2003 9:59:49 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I'm a fan since '83 and was dissaponted with the Black and the loads, but understood you have to change. What bothers me is the album sounds like the demos. The garage days ep sound a million years better thant this. I know Trashtallica is gone, but please, any band can record with a better sound than this.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by : MetalMet
6/9/2003 10:18:28 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I'm not living in the 80s because plenty of bands today still make complicated music with solos. This album disappoints me because it has no flow and is too repetitive. I mean they don't have to show off their uber-skill in every song but a beginner could play some of this stuff. They can write better songs than this with more variety to keep one interested throughout the whole song. St. Anger must repeat 20 times!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | True or False???
posted by :
6/9/2003 10:39:17 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Metallica started to suck since they hire bob rock as a fucking producer????
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | JUST MY 2 CENTS
posted by :
6/9/2003 10:43:12 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
From 1983 to forever: SLAYER was, is, and always be more brutal, metal, and better than Metallica. "And Justice for All" in my opinion is their only KICK ASS album. And it doesn't matter how many albums you sell, quality crowns the kings of metal not quantity we are not dealing with Godsmack or Britney Spears.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | oh the humanity! oh the production!
posted by :
6/9/2003 11:11:07 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
okay, you non-fans are hilarious. you have looked for any excuse to not like this finally heavy metallica album everyone has been asking for. you blame it on the production. fuck. it is nowhere near that bad, my lord I have never heard so much bitching. especially since the majority of you haven't even HEARD the album, you are just jumping on the band wagon. and don't tell me you have listened to the album and hold an objective opinion. I am not a slayer fan, therefore, I won't spend my free fucking time listening to their album so I can bitch about it on some messageboards. you aren't fooling the fans. secondly, you bitch about the production, yet the majority of us "true" metal fans listen to death metal from europe which has notoriously low production values, but we never bitch about that, interesting? we is that? because you people who metallica has apparently done wrong to, have such a complex with the band you need to find any excuse to bash them even when there isn't one.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | slayer better then metallica?
posted by :
6/9/2003 11:16:23 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
so, the reason Slayer is better than Metallica by a lot of peoples reasoning is that Slayer sells less albums? what the fuck kind of logic is that? do you people seriously hit your foreheads on a sharp object before posting on this board? it really seems like that. this kind of logic is like saying the Beatles are the worst band of all time because they have sold millions of records. Keep holding onto Slayer, and keep telling yourself they aren't "sellouts" (your of so favourite word). The real sellouts are bands that never try anything new, instead they just rely on their old formula to sell their albums for them instead of actually trying to give the fans something new to listen to and take a risk. Laziness is selling out, and you better damn believe creating the same album over and over again is laziness.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I hate fanboys
posted by :
6/9/2003 11:29:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I love the convenience of you Metallica fans overlooking legitimate gripes with the album, and instead pointing out and arguing against those nitpicking at trivial matters like the production. I assume that has something to do with the fact that you can't dispute the legitimate argument.
I could care less about the production. I've bought CDs by black metal bands that sounded like they recorded their album in a bush, that doesn't bother me. As I pointed out in the first response to this review. The monotonous dead-end song structure is what turns me off. Not to mention the awful lyrics. By far the worst album from that standpoint Metallica has ever put out. That is especially unacceptable given all the shit James has had to go through in the last couple of years. One would think he could come up with a decent way to reflect that through his lyrics, but no we get bullshit like Invisible Kid, and some lame social commentary like Some Kind Of Monster, and who knows what the fuck St. Anger is trying to say. You can fit the length of those lyrics on a fly's dick it's the same shit repeated over and over. The songs are far too long for the lame structure. It's basically like they copyed the whole song after recording and pasted it again on the end to keep it going. No variation whatsoever. This isn't even about solos man. I would just like to know that Kirk is still there. I can't hear him on this shit. It sounds like your typical one guitar agro band to me folks. I'm not even going to complain about the drumming. Anyone who knows good drumming knows that Lars has always been mediocre at best so there's no surprise there at all. Not to mention the loser triggers his drums and still isn't half the speed of his contemporaries.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Slayer is better than Metallica
posted by :
6/9/2003 11:42:01 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Selling out is not a word I use. I thin it's fucking gay. I don't care if a band makes money just so they keep making kick ass music. Slayer is not better than Metallica because they didn't sell out.
Slayer is better than Metallica because they played faster, harder, louer. Jeff Hanneman is a better guitarist that Kirk Hammet, Dave Lombardo is a better drummer than Lars, and I'll take Tom Araya's vocals any day over James shrieking bullshit from the 80s. Not to mention that despite popular belief, by people that know dick about metal I might add, Slayer has had more impact in metal than Metallica could ever hope for. You fans seem to forget that True metal bands disowned Metallica long ago, so why the fuck would they be influenced by them? Do you guys actually think every thrash band was influenced by Metallica and that's why they make thrash music? You better look back at the 80s because I think you're overlooking Anthrax, Slayer, Dark Angel, Aria, Kreator, Annihilator, Possessed, and a shit load of other bands.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I like it!
posted by : THE IMMORTAL ONE
6/9/2003 11:46:03 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Hell I want'ed to bash this along with everybody else but? Hey while your at it pick up some ZEKE/LAMB OF GOD / BROTHERS OF CONQUEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | James shrieks?
posted by :
6/9/2003 11:59:27 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
No offense man, but to say James Hetfield shrieks his vocals and Tom Araya doesn't should be the other way around. Tom Araya is EXACTLY why Slayer isn't as big as they could be. He is the worst vocalist in metal today. The rest of Slayer are a pretty decent band but you can't say that Slayers "God Hates Us All" or Anthrax's latest are any better then Metallica's recent albums.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | objectiveness
posted by :
6/10/2003 12:04:14 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I understand what people don't like about the album, but I still think its great. I'm just sick and tired of non-fans forcing their views down my throat because they don't like they album. What is the compulsion with posting negative comments about anything you don't like? I don't like A LOT of things. I absolutely cannot fucking stand Pantera. I love everything in Metal from death to power to black to heavy to speed etc. But the one band I cannot fucking stand will always be Pantera, however, I NEVER post a single comment about how much I think they suck and how glad I am that they are over on any news posting about Pantera. I do not understand why others insist on doing so.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | further
posted by :
6/10/2003 12:07:15 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
if you don't like the album, thats great, its your opinion, no problem. I do however think the majority of people bashing this album:
1) never listened to it 2) have a chip on their shoulder STILL (2000) over Napster 3) think its hip to bash Metallica
However, there is a small minority who aren't not one of the above type. Notice I said SMALL minority.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I hate PANTERA SOO MUCH
posted by :
6/10/2003 12:39:08 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Someone else who hates those fucking fakes PANTERA! YESSSSSS. Anyway, the reason I feel the need to spout negativity about the band is because I need to vent. LIke I said this will be the first album by Metallica I won't be purchasing because it's that bad to me. I have to get that out, and another reason is that it's been all flowers and sweetness for this album in the major publications. I just have to get an opposing view out there, and not a strong one at least in my opinion. I have no personal animosity towards this band, but I do hate the bullshit surrouding their supposed status in metal. It wouldn't bother me so bad if it was just fan and media hype, but these guys actually buy into it now. You can sense it in every interview they give.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by :
6/10/2003 1:45:05 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
St. Anger is great Metallica is great
All you haters don't know a damn thing about a damn thing. Its just so much fun to jump on the bandwagon and call everyone trendy. How do you spell irony?
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | You're all a bunch of fucks
posted by :
6/10/2003 4:02:52 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I can't believe anyone who truly calls themself a Metallica fan can hate this. You're all a bunch of pathetic fucktards
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Haha, I can't stop laughing...
posted by :
6/10/2003 6:56:52 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
So much hate towards an album just because it's Metallica. Nothing new there, though. It happened with RTL (wtf, you made a ballad), AJFA (wtf, you made a video), Black (wtf, you're mainstream), Load (wtf, this is country crap how dare you call yourselves METALlica)... and now St Anger.
You guys wouldn't know a good album if it hit you in the head. But please, keep on bashing, don't mind me...
I'll just go back and listen to the masterpiece called... St Anger!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Slayer better than Metallica?? FAT CHANCE.
posted by :
6/10/2003 6:57:37 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Slayer is not better than Metallica for one single reason. Kerry King is completly and utterly tone deaf.
They truly released the same album over and over and OVER.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | bad
posted by :
6/10/2003 7:04:30 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
i listened to the CD during a set change at my bands last concert....its cool that theyre going for something new...but making the drums so loud that u can't hear the guitars isnt the way to do it and "Hetfield has written and delivered his most personal, intimate lyrics and vocals yet"
saint angeround my neck he never gets respect (you push it out, you push it out) (x 23546546352453)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Idiots
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/10/2003 7:43:22 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Any one who said the Non-Fans arent listening to the damn CD.. What the fuck are you fuckin retarded apes talking about ! Do you think we wouldnt listen to the fuckin CD before bitching about it ? How fuckin stupid can you get ? The fuckin album is available every fuckin where so DONT worry we listened to it you fuckin retards, and we're all probably having a hard time going through the album for fuck's sake im actually suprised at people who could listen to the whole album without freaking out. You guys had to listen to that album 24/24 a day to probably FORCE yourselves to like it that much yyou fuckers know IT SUCKS ASS but no matter what your so true to metallica wow FUCK YOU who gives a damn about them Metallica would release "Lars frozen nugget" and would idiots would probably it " Look its Lars Ulrich Shit I want it!!" thats how you retarded apes sound like.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | THIS ALBUM SUCKS
posted by :
6/10/2003 8:19:10 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Believe me it sucks. Did they get Some kind of monster from limp bizkit's B side album. Is that hetfield trying to rap in the beginning of that song. DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | METALLICA LIVE
posted by : metdooder
6/10/2003 8:21:43 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
What can i say...they are the best at what they do live and that is enough for me.Still amazing live after 20 years...no one can ever dispute their presence.nuff said
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Excellent!!!!!
posted by : diedformegadeth
6/10/2003 9:10:20 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I think this album absolutly rips! I know, I know I'm an idiot right! No, I just have my own opinion and anyone to put me down for that is the idiot.
If you hate it, fine, but don't trash someone else that doesn't agree with you.
If all you can do is bash people well than you are pestilence. But I wouldn't expect someone so close minded to understand the word PESTILENCE! Look it up in the dictionary, if you know how to use one, then look in the mirror, hey now you understand.
To all who value different opinions, and can agree to disagree have a great fucking day! To those negative fucks whom want to bash everyone that does not see everything their way- go jump off a freeway bridge!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Get over it!!
posted by :
6/10/2003 9:15:47 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Metallica are great and always wiil be great.one of the greatest metal bands in the world just got greater!!I agree with what the majority of everyone were saying,the snare drum sounds like an old ice cream tub on some songs(most guilty track 'invisible kid') and sometimes the bass drum sounds like a flappy old sock!But i urge everybody to GIVE IT A CHANCE!!I was shocked at first,but now the cd hasn't come out of my player for 4 days!!They may not be thrash but hey lets face it,at least they're not as crap as Machine Head have got lately!Get over the dodgy sound and just listen to the best metal album of the year so far!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Another Interesting Review...
posted by : ryrobes
6/10/2003 9:24:49 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
First things first. I love the album (bash away), secondly I think that Don's review is great (obviously). Here is another review that you might not have seen, its pretty cool too.
----------------------------------
(By WHIPLASH, afternoon dj @ Rock 1057, Peoria, IL.)
Metallica’s St. Anger is 75 minutes of aggression, violence, chaos and brutality. It’s an electrical meltdown wrapped inside a nuclear explosion surrounded by a 500 mile earthquake. On this, we all concur.
From here, we become less agreeable…
After listening to the album twice in its entirety, I’ll state my conclusion now…then spend several paragraphs explaining it…then I’ll state the conclusion again:
This is either the worst dumpster-full of rotten, spoiled garbage Metallica has ever written…or it’s brilliantly groundbreaking. But there is no middle ground. This album isn’t "okay." After hearing it twice, it either sucks or it’s phenomenal.
I suppose I’ll begin by touching on - and agreeing with - all the negatives about which I’ve heard others chanting. First, someone wake up Kirk Hammett and tell him his band’s recording a new album. His alarm clock has been broken for the last 6 months. Where’s Kirk! You’ve got (arguably) the greatest metal guitarist plugging in next to you, and as a reward for all his years of jaw-dropping, neck-shredding, light speed distorted dominance, you give him a grand total of… ZERO solos? What the f*** guys? In every song, there’s at least 2 places where Kirk could just lift off…but we get nothing. Maybe it was Kirk’s decision…in which case he should be flogged. Maybe it was Bob Rock’s decision…in which case he should be drawn and quartered. Most likely it was a collective decision. Now since we can’t execute the whole quartet, I’ll guess I’ll just shake my head and move on.
Secondly, everyone complains about the quality…the production…the mixing…the overall Bob Rocked sound on the record. I agree with the criticisms. St. Anger sounds like it was recorded for less than $1,000 on an 8 track in my friend’s sheet metal garage. Maybe Lars really is broke from Napster, but don’t Metallica have access to a multi-million dollar recording studio with top notch equipment and an unlimited budget? And let’s be honest about Bob Rock…the guy knows his stuff. Dr. Feelgood sounded great. The Black Album was amazingly produced. Bob didn’t suddenly go deaf. You have to believe it was intentional…but why? I’ll get to my theory…
Also, in the mix, the drums are WAY too loud. All you can hear is Lars banging on that tin can. The guitars (what little there are) are buried behind "Tama garage fury," as I will now call it.
As for James’ vocals…they’re rough. They’re raw. It sounds like he did one take and kept it no matter how it sounded. No overdubs, either. I remember watching A Year & a Half in the Life Of…which documented the recording of the Black Album…and Bob Rock made James sing "…and I dub thee Unforgiven" about 40 different times, keeping every take and overdubbing those vocals until they sounded thick and perfect. What a difference 12 years makes… James is thin, often out-of-key, often missing notes, his voice cracks occasionally. I almost started laughing during the Frantic-tic-tic-tock part of that song it was so out-of-key and warbling.
And as for the songs themselves…everyone I’ve talked to says the same thing: "the whole album is the same, repetitive song." It’s true, all the songs sound alike. And yes, all the songs are repetitive, lyrically and musically. The songwriting and arrangement are incredibly subpar compared to past Metallica efforts. Random, pointless time changes litter St. Anger. And several of the songs even start out in the tradition of newer hard rock songs, meaning they play the riff softly, then break into it hardcore. (Think Linkin Park’s One Step Closer or Godsmack’s I Stand Alone.) It’s very typical and, therefore, uncharacteristic of Metallica.
I think that’s about it, right? Have I covered all the reasons why most people think this album tanks?
Alright, now for the flipside…think about this…
Lars warned us for weeks that this record would blow our minds. Critics who heard it early said it was commercial suicide. They would lose all their new Black Album and beyond fans, and their old school fans would be jaded by the lack of creativity, harmony, and guitar solos that were so prevalent on the first 3 albums. Critically, Metallica couldn’t win. We’ve heard this for months.
My first point: we shouldn’t ACT so surprised with what we hear. That said, it’s easy to say "oh, yeah…I’m ready for anything," and then you’re presented with St. Anger and your preparation goes out the dirty window because you can’t believe your ears.
But here’s my big theory on why this album just might be brilliance in disguise…
Metallica have always been anti-glam. Lars has always described them as the anti-Motley Crue. They’ve always gone against the grain, forcing their heaviness down the pop-driven throat of the world. But remember in the late 80s and early 90s when glam was at its peak? Bands like the Crue, Skid Row, Posion, etc. ruled the music scene with their sex, drugs and party attitude accompanied by their teased hair, caked make-up, spandex, leather, lipstick and enough hairspray to make any drag queen proud.
At the time, that was the standard, and everyone did it…
Then along came a band wearing flannel. Their lead singer couldn’t sing like Sebastian Bach. He looked liked a bum. His name was Kurt. He didn’t use hairspray. He had a band called Nirvana. They could rock too, but they said the hell with this false image. They stripped everything down…naked…rock n roll, depressing lyrics and ripped clothes. And grunge was born.
Ten years later, Nirvana is credited with launching a revolution and igniting the hairspray into a flaming glam-wildfire…
So what has happened in the 10 years post-Nirvana? Other bands have come and gone. Grunge had its run. Then when hip-hop took off, suddenly rap rock was thrust upon us…Rage Against the Machine. Kid Rock. Limp Bizkit. 311. Technology improved dramatically. Bands like these started using turntables in their sets and on their albums. More crazy sound effects were incorporated in hard rock. Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie pioneered the industrial techno-metal. Korn uses drum machines on their albums. It’s all programmed to sound perfect. Other metal outfits like Iron Maiden and Iced Earth use big orchestras, pianos, voice distortions. Linkin Park uses the digital muting and computerized beats. Guitars are compressed, vocals are overdubbed. It’s technology gone wild to produce the most "perfect-sounding" rock records possible.
At this time, it is the standard, and everyone does it…
Then along comes a band we know very well. They’ve gone through a lot in the past few years. They’ve lost their bassist. They’ve been tangled in unpopular lawsuits. Their front man was in rehab for alcoholism. They can still rock too…but they said the hell with this false image that "hi-tech is best." So they stripped everything down…naked…heavy metal, angry lyrics. Raw. No technology. No effects. No orchestra. No drum machine. No vocal overdubs. And St. Anger was born.
They say things move in cycles. In ‘83, Kill ‘Em All wasn’t popular. It was raw. It was basic thrash metal. Very good thrash metal…but it was simple. Now in ‘03, twenty years later, Metallica have gone full circle. St. Anger is simple. And although not as creative as the debut, it’s more like that record than any other.
So by this analogy (the same way that Nirvana was anti-glam, St. Anger is anti-technology), is Metallica’s new CD fresh and ground-breaking? Or is it more a return to roots? Given the cyclic nature of things, can it be both?
If this album is brilliant, it’s because it was written by a band that could have done something else. They have the money. They have the talent. They have the resources and the best producer in the world. They CHOSE to make St. Anger the way it is, and they did it on purpose. They see how hi-tech hard rock and heavy metal is becoming…so they put out a record that was completely the opposite. They put out a record that was about music…about feelings…about deep emotions. Not one about how many cool samples and effects we can mix together with our budget. St. Anger is a human record. It’s raw. It’s imperfect. It’s real. It’s…human.
Isn’t it refreshing to hear a human record in such a computerized world?
I think so…
And the more I think about it, the more this idea seems brilliantly groundbreaking. Maybe the songs themselves aren’t spectacular, but the POINT they make, from their production quality to their content give the album an amazing cohesion…a unity that gives modern techo-rock the finger. Actually, St. Anger pretty much gives everything the finger.
But here’s the kicker…
It could be said that any garage band from Peoria could make a record that sounds like the new Metallica CD. Why aren’t they considered groundbreaking in their stripped-down, simple philosophy? Well, because our Peoria garage band is poor. Their record HAS to sound naked. And they have no history. Metallica has 20 years of legacy and expectations. And for Metallica to do this by choice, gives the idea its appeal. It had to be the right band at the right time…and Metallica stepped up to the plate to carry the torch.
So if I’m right…if this album is brilliant, does it represent the future of hard rock? Will it have that much influence? Or does the public still want more years of super techo computerized ultra produced rock that showcases megabytes and digitalia instead of talent and songwriting?
I don’t know…
Now the conclusion again. This album is either a serious mistake and the biggest load of crap Metallica ever penned…or it’s brilliant and could change the sound of hard rock for the next 10 years.
Think about it…I’m gonna go listen to the CD again because I have a feeling it's really, really good.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | My Review
posted by :
6/10/2003 11:09:13 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
St-Anger made me do it..
http://www.st-angersucks.com
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | sorry
posted by :
6/10/2003 11:26:13 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
The site should be up tonight. As you can see it's a little unproduced as well..
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by :
6/10/2003 11:31:09 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Just finished listening to the whole album not too long ago, and as a lover of the pre-Black Album Metallica, I'd have to say that St. Anger is definately more agressive than Load and Reload, and I believe it is a step in the right direction, but the cd lacks that classic thrash sound, and the cd also lacks guitar solos...what's up with that? Seeing that I'm pretty open minded, I have always liked all of their albums, even though I wished they hadn't changed at all. With that said, I think this album is ok, it was worth the $10 I spent on it. Also, the theory that I've came up with is that it all went down hill when they hired Bob Rock to produce their shit
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Been reading some of the posts...
posted by :
6/10/2003 11:49:36 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
...And Justice for All is a great album in my opinion that and Kill 'Em All are the top 2 Metallica albums. Of course Maiden rules and their new cd will rock, and yes it'll be better than St. Anger. Last thing Slayer fucking rules, always great trash metal and awesome guitars.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | .....
posted by :
6/10/2003 1:24:35 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
waaaa waaa waaa waaaaa
babies
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | what the hell?
posted by :
6/10/2003 1:39:18 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I have read a post where someone said that this was "one of the best albums of the year" ?!?!?!?!? What the fuck its going on? Where is your integrity as a metal head? (if you are so, because I doubt it) THE HAUNTED, OPETH, DARK TRANQUILLITY, AETERNUS, .... those bands have released BRILLIANT AND POWERFUL albums this year. But they need to appear in a fuckin movie (like the gothic posers EVANESCENCE) or in the fuckin MTV to be famous and be worshiped. METALLICA are dead. I dont hate the people who says that they like St. Anger, but keeping this band as a metal reference its a HUGE mistake. I do not feel represented by them (as I have never been by the north american metal), but all those who think that are tough guys because you listen to this overrated band are quite blind.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | review
posted by :
6/10/2003 1:40:28 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
those reviews are good. unbiased.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Dont pay for the Metallica kids college fund
posted by : JohnXl
6/10/2003 1:44:33 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
SHIT ! IS THAT WHERE MY MONEY IS GOING !!! PEOPLE ARE MISSING THE POINT HERE SO I WILL SPELL IT OUT FOR YA` 1.METALLICA WILL NEVER SOUND LIKE THEY DID ON MASTER OF PUPPETS REASONS:THEY CANT DO IT ANYMORE,IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO AND MOST BANDS VIEWS ON LIFE(INSPIRATION FOR SONGWRITING)CHANGES,CLIFF BURTON IS DEAD. 2.MOST BANDS EVOLVE OR GET STUCK IN A RUT REASONS:WHEN YOU ARE THE NUMBER ONE METAL BAND OF ITS TIME IT IS A FARCE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE FORMULA SO DRASTICALLY,YOU TRIED TO EVOLVE INTO LOAD/RELOAD AND IT WASNT PRETTY. 3.ST.ANGER IS CRAP REASONS:LOUD AND NOISY DOES NOT MAKE IT METAL. CRAP PRODUCTION DOES NOT MAKE THEM VISIONARIES. TIN CAN DRUMS ARE ONLY GOOD FOR BROADWAY SHOWS CALL "STOMP" KIRK NOT PLAYING SOLO`S MEANS HE PROBABLY DIDNT WORK ANY OUT AND BOB CROCK WAS PISSED OFF AND WOULDNT LET HIM PUT ANY OF THEM ON TAPE. YOU CANNOT HIDE OR MASK BAD SONGWRITING,CRAPPY SONGS ARE CRAPPY NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU MAKE THEM. SO....IN ALL,SAVE YOUR MONEY(THE METALLIKIDS ARE COUNTING ON YOU)AND GO OUT AND BUT SOME REAL METAL
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | unbiased truth
posted by : truthrains
6/10/2003 1:53:36 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
i was looking forward to this release. and i was disappointed. lets be honest, there are some moments on st. anger, but all in all it is killed by production. not just the sound, but they needed someone there to say "james, that tic, toc part has to go". it seems that a lot of songs are killed by some stupid vocal part or lyric. the guitar sound and the snare are garbage, but the main thing to me is that the vocals were recorded so badly. i hear everyone saying "their sound needed to move forward" or some crap like that but truth be told, it seems like they were going for an entombed type sound (i've even heard the band mention entombed) but entombed's producer would have been a better choice. that snare makes it unlistenable. this band has lost it, and they aren't creating anything new. if the radio is all you listen to, maybe it's new sounding, but i guess that is who metallica caters to now anyway. i don't know what i was thinking expecting a good album from these felchers.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | where are lars' toms
posted by : truthrains
6/10/2003 1:55:21 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
?
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Thank you ryrobes...
posted by : SilenoZ
6/10/2003 2:17:17 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
for your post. I totally agree with you, it really opened my mind. St.Anger is a contrast to the modern metal. It lacks the "airbrushed" production, and it reflects raw human emotions. They this album the way it is because the could.
And i respect all of you who cant stand this album, you are entitled to your own opinion.
I was quite sceptical to this album in the beginning, but it grew on me
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | *yawn*
posted by :
6/10/2003 2:47:33 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
99% of these posts are amusing but boring, both new and old, and it looks as if this album hasnt hit off with the "metal-heads" who were still in their old mans nut sack when Kill Em All came out.
If you dont like St. Anger that aint my problem. I think its a fucking excellent album, and no 12 year old internet geek is going to change my mind.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | *yawn*
posted by : Dane
6/10/2003 3:03:14 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Yeah, me to... Metallica must be popular after all since all these people want to write a message in here. Just too bad that the bashers can't stay away...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | HAHA @ Johnny On The Spot
posted by :
6/10/2003 3:36:52 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Either you've never heard more than one slayer album, or you're just lying for the sake of lying. If you can honestly say that any of Slayer's early albums sound alike then you need your head examined. Go listen to the slowed down South of Heaven, and then try and find the similarities in Hell Awaits. You won't find any. Same with Season In The Abyss, which was an album that combined the unbridled speed of the first few with the groove of South of Heaven.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | HEY
posted by :
6/10/2003 4:52:29 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
LOOK AT ME ! I TYPE IN ALL CAPS! I HAVE TO BE LOUDER WITH MY OPINION!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | slayer/metallica/anthrax
posted by :
6/10/2003 4:57:36 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
wow... to the fool that said that Metallica's last releases (the Loads) are better than Anthrax's new album or Slayer's newest.....dude, whatever you're on, I need some. please. is it oxys? dope? tell me.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | AINT-ANGER...
posted by : Carcass_Own_You7
6/10/2003 5:06:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
You need to get yourself a life mate!!! haha
You actually spent your time on making a whole website about your dislike of a Cd.. you're near enough as bad as them sad hemits who sit indoors and make anti avril sites 'cos they have no mates and nothing better to do in life.
dick.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Bob Cock!!!
posted by :
6/10/2003 6:07:51 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
You are noe finished in this business!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ST. ANGER
posted by : stz1959
6/10/2003 7:04:04 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Music is meant to be enjoyed. Who cares if you dont like this cd. Everyones gonna have a different opinion about every metallica cd that comes out from now on. They've went through so many changes that a lot of people are gonna naturally be pissed. If you dont like St. Anger then dont listen to it. You Metal fans all k your opinion counts the most. Who gives a shit if you don't like it. Listen to the cd and decide for yourself.
Whoever keeps calling people retarded apes is an asshole. Get a life you sad bastard. Just cause he doesnt agree with you doesn't make him a "retarded ape". Most people who write on these message boards are just assholes. THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | stz1959.. your a serious retarded ape..
posted by : HeLLRaZoR
6/10/2003 9:33:54 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Why dont you shut your mouth you fuckin dirty clown, since when I cant say my opinion to some fuckin retards that dosent even know what the fuck their talking about it would actually take a retard to enjoy this album seriously what kind of album you listen to 40 times just to force yourself into liking it! thats a retarded ape. now you see what I mean you fuck ass?!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | It's time to start anew...
posted by :
6/10/2003 9:42:15 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
1990..."we need to change the game, we need a new producer. Let's get Bob Rock!!! Yeah!!!!"
2003..."well that sucked, no one liked the raw and not produced sound we had. We need a new producer. Let's get Neil Kernon!!!! Yeah!!!!"
Let's hope they see the error in the shitty producer and move on just like they did in progressing from AJFA to Black.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Anyone who hates this record
posted by : vizui
6/10/2003 10:17:45 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Is pro nu-metal.
Period.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I wish everyone would stop stealing the metal-sludge review.
posted by :
6/10/2003 10:54:07 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Make up your own damn minds you sheep. Stop saying I wanted to like the album I tried. really. You people who think you are underground are all fucking sheep. Yes you follow the trend of going against the grain. Face it. You are wothless. now onto the album. I agree its not the best I have heard, but it is a solid metal album. I agree with whoever said Invisible Kid is a pain to listen to like its being kicked in the nuts. That is true with the ohhhhhh what a whatever else he says, but the rest of the album with a few exceptions kicked major ass. Give it a few listens and draw your own conclusions. Grow up. Thank you. I know I am not going to change any opinions on this board, hell I doubt anyone will read this, but this is all I have to say about this.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St. Anger is shit and Slayer still kicks Ass!
posted by :
6/10/2003 11:24:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Everyone who likes St. Anger is saying that it is fresh, different, and new. So what! Who cares that they've changed? Change just for the sake of changing is not always good. Hetfield is outta tune. Lars sucks again. They put zero effort into this and it is very obvious. I don't want another 'Master of Puppets' or 'Ride the Lightning' but I do expect something that's good from ANY band! If Metallica's name wasn't on this, no one would even bother with this piece of shit.
By the way, SLAYER have always been a better live band than Metallica! Metallica has always sucked live, yes, even during their Master and Justice tours. Lars is just a shitty drummer and he's not good enough to pull off the shit he played on Master and Justice. Even though Slayer doesn't sell records, they will always be a better band because of their loyalty to the music they play.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | DKFU
posted by : gg allin
6/10/2003 11:26:24 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Don Kaye = a ghetto donkey
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St. Anger= music for felchers
posted by : truthrains
6/11/2003 1:15:59 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This album is strictly for felchers and special olympics gold medal winners.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Bollocks to it!!
posted by :
6/11/2003 6:30:24 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
The Haunted may be metal basajaun,but don't you think we need something new??i'm not dissing it,i love thrash but theres only so many times i can listen to a band playing million miles an hour guitar solos!!?But fuck it,i like it and if you don't thats fair enough,but to call metallica "not metal" is not on!Well boo hoo they don't sound like you want them to anymore........Tough shit!They 'aint compromising for anybody.Don't you think thats integrity enough.Anyone who doesn't like metallica anymore has probably still got a mullet and doesn't listen to any music recorded after 1986!!Oh yeah and thuthrains can get a life as well
Twat!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | truthrains
posted by :
6/11/2003 6:32:15 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Sorry i meant truthrains.And you're still a twat!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Fantastic review
posted by :
6/11/2003 8:31:56 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This is honestly one of the best album reviews I've read. Excellent work. I'm honestly still unsure whether to buy the album or not, but this probably the first review that has somewhat begun to explain the album without bitching or praising. Thanks Dan.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | jerry springer audience!!!
posted by :
6/11/2003 10:26:09 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Some of the guys in here bitch more than Courtney Love!!!
For fucksakes,there are sooo many bands out there now that are heavier and faster than Metallica IE: SYL,Messuggah Even if the band DID put out ...And Justice For All Part 2 you would bitch that it "sounds like shit next to Slayer,Sepultura...or any other band in the genre" I can guarantee that there will be guys in here that will be saying that the new SYL album absolutely sucks compared to City Etc,etc... FUCKIN GET OVER IT!!!! You either like the new album or not , IF YOUR NOT GONNA PISS, GET OFF THE POT!!! As for the "guy" who said that Lars cant play that fast. Quote:"Digital Editor anyone?" ........DVD dickhead? They actually show,yep thats right!, they show Lars' feet actually playing the kicks in rehearsal! The guy trys to play like he used to and he gets bagged and accused of faking it! I get the feeling the wolves were already waiting to rip the shit out of St Anger, regardless whether it was good or bad,You all get pissed off cos they changed there sound but why is it that a band like Black Sabbath or Led Zep could change there sound over later albums and still be considered legendary? Because bands these days have to play the same shit again and again,album after album because modern metal fans are way too spoiled and close-minded to let the bands experiment. Like i said before, there are so many bands around today that if you dont like the new Metallica you could listen to the heavier and faster version which is Meshuggah (dont tell me this band wasnt partially influenced by earlier metallica!). And finally to those that bagged the reviewer: ITS A FUCKING REVIEW!!! An opinion,you dont like the opinion, fine.People ARE allowed to like this or other music! What fuckin shits me is metalheads all have a taste for heavy music ,be it different,and we should at LEAST be happy that metallica is in the charts instead of Britney or Backstreet boys! If you wanna slag off some pussy pop group on these posts thats fine,BUT NO some of us have to give shit within our own genre to slayer,mudvayne,pantera fans etc.. In the big world of music,metal heads are the minority! (whether we like it or not) We should be trying to get more metal out there to the uninformed insted of stabbing each other in the back for liking roughly the same style of music! It may not be their best album by far but atleast their back on track to makin the next one better!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | PEOPLE WHO LIKE ST. ANGER=PEOPLE WHO LOVE 12 FOOT COCKS UP THEIR ASSHOLES
posted by : Richie Cuntingham
6/11/2003 10:39:21 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
....and that's all I have to say....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Richie Cuntingham :
posted by :
6/11/2003 11:25:53 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
....pathetic.............................
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Perspective
posted by : hagguhsem
6/11/2003 12:15:12 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
True enough, St.A. isnt as interesting a listen as many earlier albums, however a)had they written albums just like KEA, RTL, MOP and AJFA, ud have bitched and whined that they were unoriginal and doing covers of old songs and b) Those albums were truly spectacular and some of the best albums ever written, so topping them is a bit of a challenge, St.A. is an excellent album in its own right.
I do grant you that in comparison to older albums judging on certain criteria this album isnt up to scratch, but hey they had to do a new sound, the enxt album should be very interesting if they develope the new sound to a higher standard and potential.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | wow....
posted by :
6/11/2003 1:51:18 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
the stupidity is incredible
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | You Can't Kill What's Already Dead…
posted by :
6/11/2003 1:58:05 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I've read a lot of these posts…"Metallica still rules!", "Metallica Sucks", "Metallica is dead!". Here's a hint: they lost itin 1991 when they released the Black album and have slipped further into the trough since.
First, I want to comment on the reviewer stating that Metallica hadn't progressed much songwriting-wise in the 80s. Let's just look at the drastic leap forward from "Kill Em"All" to "Ride The Lightning". KEA was just a balls-out thrash fest with cheesy, standard metal-fare lyrics about killing, the devil, etc. RTL was a massive leap into better songwriting and the lyrics were more personal and inventive. They came A LONG WAY in a short period of time and STILL SOUNDED LIKE METALLICA. "Master Of Puppets" perfected what they began on "Ride…" and then came the unfortunate death of Cliff Burton. Enter Jason Newsted.
With the addition of Newsted, it was pretty clear that their style would change/evolve with his enrty. I'm guessing that the reviewer had heard "Justice" when it came out but as a musician myself, I can say without hesitation that "Justice" was Metallica's most creative, focused and musically challenging album ever. They dropped the signature speed metal approach for melody and crafty songwriting. Lars' drumming, as much as I hate to admit it, shined on that album. Fast forward a bit to the BLACK album.
Anyone who denies the fact that this album was written to blossom multiple hits is fooling themselves. Nothing creative, nothing crafty, just pure radio rock. Granted, they sounded focused, it's just that their focus had drastically changed from writing challenging music to being MTV superheroes and because of this, they started their trek of separating themselves from the metal community, little by little.
"Load" and "Reload" were simply piss poor attempts to jump onto the grunge/rock train, despite the fact that the wheels were falling off and the train was derailing. Again, the music is focused and altogether still sounded somewhat like Metallica but they had found their niche on the radio and were not about to do anything challenging. Overall, those albums produced two songs that I can say that I honestly like: "Until It Sleeps" and "The Memory Remains" but nonetheless, they were trying to hard to rip off Corrosion Of Conformity, who were far less appreciated and much, much better.
"St. Anger" not only comes forth way later than it should have but also shows a band who has clearly lost it's focus. How the final mix could be approved with that horrendous drum sound alone is deplorable. And they expect people to pay money for that?? I'm sure James and Lars used to buy music before they became "rock gods". They had to have once known what it was like to feel ripped off by their favorite bands.
Metallica is done…period. Realistically, they will beat the horse long after it's demise and people will eat it up like ice cream. But saying that they are still Metallica and calling it progression is more than a stretch, it's an outright lie. How they can smile and brag about this album when former bassist Jason Newsted has put out a solid-sounding, exceptional release with Voivod that's destined to never see the status of "St. Anger" is just sad. If you are looking for good, honest METAL from some of the bands that came up with Metallica came up with that they've long since ignored, try the following on for size:
Anthrax "We've Come For You All" Voivod "Voivod" Iron Maiden "Brave New World" Overkill "Killbox 13"
There's so much good music out there. If you absolutely must buy a Metallica CD, buy one of their older CD's and give them your opinion by not giving up your hard-earned $$$ for "St. Anger". Make them try next time.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ALBUM COVER
posted by : alanr666
6/11/2003 2:23:40 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Did anyone happen to notice that the St. Anger cover artwork is not at all original. It was, in fact, done (similarly) in 2001 on a SEPULTURA disc ... check it out ...
http://www.sepultura.com.br/_en/discography-nation.php
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | BLAH FOOKIN' BLAH!!!
posted by : anonymous
6/11/2003 3:12:39 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
this review was writtin by some dude who probably worked at Guitar for the Impractical Musician! Be a man and posting a rating!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Metalli-junk
posted by : hot_tub_poet
6/11/2003 3:15:41 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Look at it this way, Spinal Tap put out better albums and had MUCH better studio engineering. Not bad for a band that never existed
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Hellrazor
posted by : stz1959
6/11/2003 4:30:40 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
You are just another sad miserable fuck. You think i give a shit about your review of St. Anger. I couldn't give a fuck. Its pretty sad that you answered my post right away. It shows that you spend all day on these stupid message boards bitching and moaning. Shave your mullet and get a life you "retarded ape".
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St. Anger= Not bad, better than load and reload but not metallica's best effort
posted by :
6/11/2003 4:34:14 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
All this bullshit floating around message boards on sites like this as well as metallica sites that complain that metallica have made a nu-metal album is totally false. However the album is definitely not a return to their old-school thrash-metal style. The lack of solos is somewhat disapointing but nonetheless its a heavy, heavy fucking album. Sure there are soft moments here and there like in "unnamed feeling" and "dirty window" as well as the part in the kick-ass opener entitled "frantic" which goes "keep on searching" etc. but it is so much heavier than their last two studio albums load and reload which were hard rock excursions. St. Anger isn't as uncompromising as initial reports had stated but it is a solid effort and the downtuned guitars on this album have metallica's signature on them which distinguishes them from bands such as slipknot or system of a down (although "shoot me again" is reminiscient of system of a down at times, especially the little effect during the intro) The best tracks on the album are definitely "Frantic", "Some Kind of Monster", "My World", and "All Within My Hands". There's really not anything wrong with those songs unless you really don't like the production which isn't bad just different than the clean production of the black album etc. or the lack of solos. The worse moments on the album come in the form of "invisible kid" despite some decent downtuned riffs, especially since its somewhat less heavy than the other songs on the record, the type of heaviness is more reminiscient of korn than that on the better tracks on the album, and the part where james sings "oooh.. what a good boy you are" was just not needed. "Shoot me again" is not that bad but a certain part where james blurts out "shoot me again, i aint dead yet" prior to the chorus was a little hard to take in, even after several listens. Lastly "Sweet Amber", while having a great riff before the initial verse, contains some weak lyrics and the vocals during the verse weren't too great, although i do like the heaviness in this song but the aforementioned factors make this a good song but not a great one, its the 5th or 6th best on the album quite possibly. With all that said, one thing to remember is that this album is heavy and a worthy attempt, the best thing metallica has released since the black album, but it does require a few listens, it grows on you after initially making you comtemplate what the hell is what that you just heard.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | look at what you made me do...
posted by :
6/11/2003 4:53:32 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
moshpitmatty writes... look at what you made me do. i usually love reading what you people have to say about the bands. but after all this Metallica Hate Mail, i felt compelled to say something... first of all, for those of you who were expecting a "return" to the old thrash metallica, you're probobally still living in a trailor park with your mom, sporting a mullett, and chances are that you already have your tickets to the Poison/slaughter tour this summer. second, Metallica right now are fighting a 2 front war with listeners. Their music will be played on every rock station in the U.S, just because they're 'tallica. You're going to hear Metallicas "st anger" played after fu*king Nicklbacks "never again." You'ren also going to see Metallica this summer in Europe playing alongside most every metal band on the face of this earth. Their music is comproble to the heaviest stuff out their, i.e-- Black Daliah Murder, Srapping Young Lad, Mushuggah, etc. etc... Question... because those bands dont frequent guitar solos much either, does that make them "nu metal?" HELL NO!! THATS METAL BABY! Third, and finally. How many of you suck ass, faded montrose t-shirt wearin' fools have seen Metallica this time around perform the new stuff? Well, i have. I was lucky enough to see Metallica at the Fillmore. I couldnt tell you how they looked, cuz, i was too busy keeping the pit going. But i can tell you this... When they played St. Anger, i couldnt help but bang my head. the music drove my head to bang like a bobblehead on crack! never hearing the songs before, i got to tell you, befor you judge the new sh*t, see them live. i lost my mind with Frantic and St. anger, live and it only feft me jonesing for more! BTY, the new stuff fit in perfectly with Damage Inc., Leper Messiah, Ride the Lightning, and so on live. So to all the haters, FU*K OFF!! see you in the pit--matty
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Give this a chancd
posted by :
6/11/2003 5:55:49 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I for one have been a humonguous metallica fan for years now..i believe that Metallica faces more judgment and criticism than any other band in the rock world.Ive read all the messageboards, all the dissing, all the hating..all the bullshit people have to say about this cd...I personally agree with blabbermouths review of this cd...This cd was put out by a reborn band that had nothing planned when they went into the studio...got in there jammed out...had fun...Bob rock did not want to tweak the knobs at all on this because of the raw intensity, vibe, and fun the boys were having just playing as a unit. I agree parts of these songs are weak and lacking in certain things that once made metallica great, but the honesty behind these songs is something you cant compromise with..on the dvd you see them playing the songs and metallica looks to be really enjoying themselves again just playing raw stripped down heavy music...my first listen of this cd was a little disappointing, but the more and more i listen to it, i cannot get enough of it...sweet amber is awesome...the closing riff on that song is phenomenal....every song i enjoy listening, to....well pretty much with the exception of shoot me again...i can see how many people are probably turned off by this cd..but if you look past the production and the "cliches" of what metallica supposed to be..then you will find a great piece of honest metallica history on this cd...to all these fucking haters on blabbermouth who have probably just listened to a few tracks, and automatically said fuck this because of the production or of what you think metallica is supposed to be...fuck you..a band isnt supposed to be anything..bands and music should not have to be anything....thats not what music is about...i say hell yeah to metallica.....much respect from me...cant wait to see you this summer....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Metallica Haters.....
posted by :
6/11/2003 6:23:28 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Not big and not clever!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | RE:Metallica Haters........
posted by :
6/11/2003 6:25:19 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I bet they're ugly too!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Holy Shit!
posted by :
6/11/2003 8:03:00 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Well, whether you love this album or hate it at least Kaye was right when he said it definitely gets a reaction. It's kind of funny to look at this board right now with all the people either loving it or getting horribly pissed off and calling it garbage.
My personal opinion is this: St. Anger is decent. It's not the most horrible thing I've ever heard, but is FAR from being the best metal album in the world. I'm not a musician or producer, so I cna't give a prfessional opinion on the production job, but I definitely think with the time and money spent on this record it could have been better. I think the drums stand out a bit too much and the bass needs to be heavier. If Robert Trujilo had been with the band when they recorded St. Anger it probably would have sounded a little better, but not much.
One good thing I can say about the album is that it will give longtime metal fans something interesting to debate for a while.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Fuck 'em all
posted by : metalskull
6/11/2003 8:04:20 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
All you fuckers who are hungry for some old school metal, im with you .But if your gonna tell that the new metallica doesnt break the old standard, then you can grab a spoon, and eat my ass whole.Metallica still kicks ass and are the reigning kings and they proved it by again doing their own thing and making all you pansies bitch like old ladies! The new album is killer and has that KILL EM ALL intensity and rawness to it.If you dont like it,dont buy it! A true musician respects what another does.And if you cock suckers were so damn good, youd all have millions of dollars and a bunch of cool albums to show for it!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by :
6/11/2003 8:13:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
The vocals, lyrical content, repetitive song structure, poor production and media hype really disappointed me. The DVD has better sound quality than the CD. Bets moment: watching Rob play bass like a psychopath. Worst: realizing how much money these guys are going to make for this.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | A mexican garage band can do better
posted by :
6/11/2003 8:36:48 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This album is a masterpiece of shit. I have a feeling that there is an inside joke in Metallica that they could put out the biggest piece of shit, and their fans would still buy it and support them. I truly feel sorry for you fucking lambs, with you heads up you asses that bought this atrocity. Listen to a "Real" metal band like OPETH djl
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Here we go...
posted by :
6/12/2003 12:30:13 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I can believe you people are buying into this crap! This album is worse than ANY of Their previous cd's. It's basically punk rock for pople who consider themselves, and Metallica, artists. The only difference in this cd and a punk cd, is that Metallica is too dumb to keep the songs short enough to keep the listener interested. The people who are calling this a masterpiece are only fooling themselves. I hate Rap more than anything in the world, and I would gladly listen to Eminim for the rest of my life rather than suffer through St. Anger again. Oh well, enjoy your redundant four chords Metalilovers, and don't forget to pick up the new Casualties record! It sounds almost as underproduced as St. Anger although the music is FAR more technical. They use 5 Freaking chords in one song! What a masterpiece!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | st. felcher
posted by : truthrains
6/12/2003 1:41:27 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
one thing...at least it doesnt have semen on the cover, although that would have been appropriate considering anyone who likes it is a big felcher.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | La Guitarra...
posted by : Dane
6/12/2003 12:16:59 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
A good example of a person who can't accept that other people don't listen to exactly the same music as he does...
You act like a kid, man!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | truthrains
posted by :
6/12/2003 12:38:58 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
What the fuck is a felcher?
And you're still a twat!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | GREAT REVIEW
posted by :
6/12/2003 4:44:53 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
St. Anger it is a CD that must listen to 4 or 5 times to enter "within".The first surprise is the drum sound,it sounds as if Larz beat a gas cylinder...the second surprise is the "invisible" Kirk... but the worse thing is la puta production.I HATE.I do not understand that so poor sound specially the fuckin´drum. By the way the music is like a random riff without target.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Dane
posted by :
6/12/2003 4:57:21 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Where did I say that you can't Like this cd, and more importantly why do you care? I only said that I am shocked that anyone likes this cd. I Have every right to criticize an album that I wasted my hard earned money on. I guess it's childish not to like everything that is placed before me. I'm sorry for not being as accepting as you are, but I have bills to pay, and wasting money upsets me. Lastly I don't care what you listen to, but I shouldn't have to hold my tounge so you can feel better about your cd collection!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | DEAD!!!
posted by :
6/12/2003 5:00:52 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
METALLICA IS FUCKIN´ DEAD! ANOTHER NEW "SHIT" METAL FOLLOWER!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | BOOZE !
posted by :
6/12/2003 5:54:28 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
James, please find your vodka bottle before you write more crap like St Anger so we can all be one big happy family again......
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Sounds Like
posted by :
6/12/2003 5:59:52 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
To me the album sounds like the guitarists from Sevendust jamming with the drummer from Goatwhore with James improvising lyrics.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | You Fuckers...
posted by : The_Razor
6/12/2003 6:04:25 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
You are gonna get kicked on the balls with Killem's first demo. For more fuckin' info visit www.killemthrash.cjb.net Old school Thrash. Enough said motherfuckers
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | St. Anger !!
posted by : Crazyass
6/12/2003 6:31:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I like this cd. Yes it's shit, but it's good shit. Think about it. Shitty tunes, shitty production, shitty lyrics, shitty vocals. So to sum it up. St. Anger is total shit which makes it a fucking great cd.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Angry Saint
posted by :
6/12/2003 6:49:58 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This album is great, it's raw,mean,ugly, the kettle drum sounds like a barrel getting beat by lars. I dig it all. For all the people who don't like it, I could really give a flying fuck about your opinions. I will listen to this album and fuck your girlfriends in the asses with a shitty peanut covered plunger.....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | NOT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR?!
posted by : yeaboyee
6/12/2003 7:45:37 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I don't know if this is what i expected but MetallicA has never given me that. The more i listen the more I like this album.. Lars's drumming is still anoying at parts though. I think he just wanted some attention
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | FUCKIN RIGHTS,ONE OF THE TOP 5 BEST ALBUM OF THE 2000'S
posted by :
6/12/2003 7:48:01 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
AND THAT S THE BOTTOM LINE
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Yeah now blabbermouth sold out... RIGHT.
posted by :
6/12/2003 8:48:20 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Yeah sure everybody sold out go ahead make your noise idiots DEAF EARS are everywhere.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | only bitter retards bash metallica
posted by : gunnarcannibal
6/12/2003 11:36:40 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
NO ONE'S OPINION MATTERS AT ALL!
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE A METALLICA BASHER IS STICK YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR EARS CLOSE YOUR EYES AND ACT LIKE A BITTER DRAMA QUEEN, REALITY NEED NOT APPLY WHEN MAKING UP SHIT TO HATE ABOUT ONE OF THE ONLY BANDS WHO HAS THE BALLS TO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT A BUNCH OF DELUSIONAL RETARDS WHO HATE THEMSELVES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE! This album did not suck. The production makes it sound even better and raw. I remember when everyone was bitching that the black album and load were "too produced" now you get something that is loud intense and completely un-commercial and you still bitch. Why is it that only stupid people who have to lie to themselves are the only one's who bash Metallica. Shit you guys would have said Sabbath sucked after hearing Changes or you would have hated Zeppelin because of Stairway to Heaven or Houses of the Holy, shut up. Metallica is the only band who has the balls to fuck with their success. They would be even bigger had they made every album sound like the black album and master of puppets! I didn't like Load but I'll be damned if I'll let a bunch of delusional retards talk shit about St. Anger!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Not bad
posted by : Nile
6/13/2003 5:13:10 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
It's certainly different. Not terrible like many say it is, but you can't honestly say its a masterpiece. It sits somewhere in the middle.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | RE: And another thing..............
posted by : ryrobes
6/13/2003 11:36:38 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Why can't some of you people accept that somebody actually likes this album?
Isn't all art subjective and interpreted differently by everybody? Saying that the people that like the album either fall into the “mindless sheep” or the “name-rider” category is just ridiculous.
While I appreciate the thought and grammatical intelligence (rare these days) that went into your post, I disagree with its main point.
…and all this about Slayer sticking to the “formula that works”? Yeah, they stuck to the formula all right. Yawn. I like Slayer as much as the next guy, but you can’t tell me that they are constantly releasing quality material, apparently “sticking to the formula” means that you release the same album each time… It’s safe that way, your fan-base never changes, you never gain or lose fans at all (the fans just get older).
I understand that you hate the CD and you are pissed that you bought it... It was 10 dollars, I’m sure that you will financially recover.
Hey man I really don’t mean to bash anybody, hell, we all probably have a lot in common.
\m/
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | MetalliCA$H
posted by : samalx
6/13/2003 12:45:41 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This is what took place in the Metallicamp:
Lars: We need money, more money and more fans, Napster made us lose lotta money and lotta fans. James: Yeah, money and fans! Lars: We should play trendy music so we can make a lot of money and also uneducated teens will dig our stuff, will think we rule and then we'll have new fans James: Yeah, trendy music, who fuckin' cares? we're rich anyway and will be even richer Kirk: Yeah, let's do a video in a jail or something so we look kind of dangerous Lars and James: Yeah, more fans, more MTV, more money!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | RE: blackerdays
posted by : ryrobes
6/13/2003 2:08:21 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I have no problem with “Agreeing to Disagree”, we can all agree that Metallica is legendary anyways regardless of the last 15 years, just based on how they influenced us all at some point.
Slayer does what they do best (that, by itself is not a bash) and that’s cool too. Their music is not bad, but I think that they could have changed a little and still kept what makes them what they are (does that make any sense?). You could listen to a handful of their songs and get a good grip on their entire catalog (again, not a bash).
James and Co. don’t ever seem to be happy with what they have done and are always seeking out “new directions” and experimentations. I think its just a personality thing, I mean ever since Cliff was killed name 2 adjacent Metallica albums that sound the same (Load – Re-Load doesn’t count… its basically the same album / recording session, etc.). They might be accused of changing too much, and leaving us with the impression that they are “all over the place” musically. For me personally, their “new direction” (for now at least) pleases me… It’s not a masterpiece, maybe in my mind all the true ‘masterpieces’ have already been written… and we won’t realize what was monumental or not until years afterward anyways.
In my mind: “Kill ‘em All” , “Ride the Lightning” , “Master of Puppets”… Same progression, but the evolution is apparent without sacrificing where you evolved from.. (in my mind these 3 are grouped together)
“And Justice for All…” ..Definitely (as Don said) a transition period, still 80’s Metallica, but not quite. (stands alone)
“Metallica” (The Black Album) … Stands on its own.. some evolution, but certainly different (also stands alone)
“Load” , “Re-Load” .. Again, very different, small bits and pieces of ‘progression’ but still VERY different (in my mind these 2 get clumped together)
“St. Anger” …Very different again, but it feels as if they ‘tried’ to incorporate some ‘older values’ into this record which is why people see it as forced and contrived. Lot of COC influence, Kyuss, Entombed, etc. (the list can go on and on).. (stands alone in my mind)
And no, I refuse to argue about Anthrax.. either 20 years ago or now. ?
Is Hetfield and Company very talented? Without a doubt. Is he ‘capable’ of making an album that we’d ALL love? Probably. Would he ever (barring a solo career)? Probably not.
I refuse to use the “Metallica died with Cliff adage”, but you could say that Cliff kept Metallica focused and cohesive. Once by himself, James had to drift off in 10 directions... which isn’t exactly a bad thing.
..and in terms of reading and commenting on this board, let just put it this way… Somebody thinks that I’m working. ?
Thanks for giving ME something to do for a few mins. (and it’s raining here too in beautiful upstate NY) Lates.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | correction..
posted by : ryrobes
6/13/2003 2:13:24 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
...after the "And no, I refuse to argue about Anthrax.. either 20 years ago or now. " comment there should be no question mark, in fact pretend that its a smiley. :) (I don't want to give off the wrong idea about what I meant)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!!
posted by :
6/13/2003 2:19:40 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
PRAISE THE MASTERPIECE PRE-LOAD ALBUMS!!!
METAL MILITIA!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | OK...
posted by :
6/13/2003 3:11:43 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
First of all to all of my fellow Metallifriends...ROCK ON!!! And to all of you on here doing the bullshit bashing...FUCK OFF!!!
St. Anger is quite a good album, albeit nowhere as cool as Lightning, Master or Justice, but those were different times and each of those is good in it's own way. NO two Metallica albums sound exactly the same (with the exception of Load and ReLoad), hell, Hetfield's voice doesn't sound the same on any two albums (once again with the exception of Load and ReLoad). Just like every person on the plande, bands have to change to stay fresh. If bands were meant to sound the same on every record, they wouldn't put out more than one record. And if you like the old stuff so much, just play those over and over and over and stay in the same time and place the rest of your life. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that's free speech and that's part of what makes this country great. If you don't like the album, fine, just say whether or not you like and why. I've read every single post on here before posting my own and there's is much senseless and needless mudslinging. Come on people. Are your lives really so boring and meaningless that you have nothing better to do than post 20 comments on why you don't like the new album or Metallica?? And if you hate them so much, why post a comment that takes 15 fucking minutes to read?! Some of the comments posted that didn't like Metallica or the new album were very intelligent and well thought out and I applaud those of you who posted them and totally respect and accept your opinions. But the rest of you...you're pathetic. I mean this is the band that from the very beginning was about doing their own thing no matter the consequense. For fuck's sake they were a Top 40 band that was next to never played on the radio. But once they brought the mainstream to them and were all over the place, you deemed them "sell outs." So they became a major success, big fucking deal! If a band doesn't sell a lot of cd's and become successful, they don't last and then you're left without any music. You wanted heavy from a band that has "metal" in their name and when you get it, you're still not happy. What? Did the thing have to be gold plated and give you head to make you happy?? And don't even give me the horseshit that you can do a better album than they can. If you could, you wouldn't be spending your time talking shit about them on the internet. And if you hate them so much, why can't you stop talking about them?? I just don't understand mindless fucks like yourselves.
Let me just close by saying, Metallica still rules and I'm sure all my Metallifriends will share this sentiment when I say to all you assholes....METAL UP YOUR ASS!!!!
P.S. HellRazor, you have got to be the most pathetic loser on this website. And I think, no, I would DEFINITELY pay to see you attempt to show Kirk Hammett (who is NOT Mexican by the way) how to play a solo. That would actually be priceless.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Give it time
posted by :
6/13/2003 4:51:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Hey all you idiots out there who are slagging the new album, you have to give it time. Remember when RTL came out and all the KEM fans were pissed off because of the 'slow' songs like Bellz and Fade? But when people gave it time RTL got alot better didn't it? All you people are so quick to jump on the bandwagon and trash the album. You people are complaining the songs are too long. Huh? Weren't the songs on MOP just as long? Weren't the songs on AJFA just as long? They were long back in the 80's and there just as long now. So complaining about long songs is just ridiculous. I must say that the songs themselves seem a little lost and all over the place. The song tempos stop and start alot which I find annoying. Once a riff starts and I like it, it stops and something new comes along. The album is heavy at times but the songs are nowhere close to the complexity they once were on their first 4 albums. I'm also very disappointed that there is no guitar solos. Here, you have one of the best metal guitarists of all time, and Kirk's talent is completely wasted. You can't even here him on St Anger. Of all the great and current metal bands like Slayer, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Sepultura, and more, you can clearly tell they have one kickass lead guitarist. Kirk's talent can be compared to be the same if not better than any of those bands guitarists. But on St Anger he is nowhere to be found. Metallica has all there excuses, but who cares. As fans who have purchased there albums in the past, do you really care? Jason Newsted must be laughing. Can you blame him? I'd really like to know Cliff Burtons opinion on St Anger?
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Damn
posted by : Vlimkernon
6/13/2003 4:57:33 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This album is a joke. That’s right it’s not Justice, Master, Lightning or even Kill’em All. The reason why they attracted so many fans in the old days was because they had a raw powerful sound that couldn’t be matched. They were invincible. One after another each album kept getting heavier and more progressive until the black album. I don’t think it’s wrong for those of who used to respect Metallica to be disappointed and angry at this garbage they put out. It also saddens me that Kirk hasn’t shown any progress in his soloing in the last 12 years. Now there are no solos. What happened? I know many guitarists that can burn Kirk with their eyes closed. Sadly I am one of them. Jeez Kirk, you’re addicted to the pentatonic scales like they were crack. There are many, many other scales to choose from. The fact is that this band is not the same band that I and millions of others admired years ago. Instead they’re old, lost and hopeless.
R.I.P. Mettallica Happy Birthday Nutallica
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Fear of Change
posted by :
6/13/2003 5:13:55 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I don't get all this negative hype. I read all the comments and was convinced this would be the biggest piece of garbage ever -- then I listened to a friend's copy... and I dig it... a lot... so I went and bought my own copy. What blows me away is that Metallica has always been a step ahead... and now their own fans are disgruntled 'cause the band is moving on! How sad. This is a challenging album because it feels so unfamiliar... and so did all the Metallica albums when they first came out. These guys play by their own rules, and they always have... and if that's too confusing for you, then maybe you shouldn't be listening to it. This is music, not a religion, the artists must be able to (and encouraged to) experiment with new solutions -- it ain't sacrilege! The sound quality is FINE... I've gotta laugh at all the "Studio Engineers" who are getting their panties in a bunch 'cause the snare is too tight, or too up front... what the hell? Since when has heavy metal become so frikkin' conservative? Since when does Heavy Metal have to follow rules and regulations? Have you all lost your mind!? This is a great album if you're ready to be challenged (and inspired). Forget the status quo, Metallica tore it a new a-hole... as usual.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Burn Kirk???
posted by :
6/13/2003 5:22:13 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Vlimkernon, if you could really burn Kirk on the axe, you wouldn't be wasting your time on an internet messageboard.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | GLORIOUS PAST...
posted by :
6/13/2003 6:06:29 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
"We are as one as we all are the same fighting for one cause Leather and metal are our uniforms protecting what we are Joining together to take on the world with our heavy metal Spreading the message to everyone here Come let yourself go
On through the mist and the madness We are trying to get the message to you Metal Militia Metal Militia Metal Militia"
"Do unto others as they have done unto you But what in the hell is this world coming to? Blow the universe into nothingness Nuclear warfare shall lay us to rest
Fight fire with fire Ending is near Fight fire with fire Bursting with fear We shall die
Time is like a fuse, short and burning fast Armageddon is here, like said in the past Soon to fill our lungs the hot winds of death The gods are laughing, so take your last breath"
"Circle of Destruction, Hammer comes crushing Powerhouse of energy Whipping up a fury, Dominating flurry We create the Battery
Smashing through the boundaries lunacy has found me cannot stop the Battery Pounding out aggression turns into obsession cannot kill the Battery
Cannot kill the family Battery is found in me
Battery"
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I'LL START BY SAYING IT'S A DAMN GOOD ALBUM
posted by :
6/13/2003 8:08:54 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT TASTES AND INFLUENCES BUT I SAY IT'S A PRETTY RESPECTABLE ALBUM
AND YOU REALLY CAN'T JUDGE IT AGAINST OTHER ALBUMS UNTIL THE THING HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS
THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN YOU MAKE AN ACCURATE JUDGEMENT.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | AND ONE MORE THING
posted by :
6/13/2003 8:10:59 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
YOU CANT' MAKE AN ACCURATE JUDGEMENT IF YOUR CLOSED MINDED AND READY TO POUNCE AND BASH ALL OVER METALLICA
THATS JUST IGNORANCE
DONT EVEN BOTHER WRITING YOUR SO CALLED OPINION IF YOUR GONNA DO THIS
AT LEAST LISTEN TO THE ALBUM AND BE FAIR
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | SONGS TO LONG??????
posted by :
6/13/2003 8:13:04 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
THATS HILARIOUS, BEFORE I REMEMBER REALLY WELL THAT PEOPLE WERE BITCHING CAUSE THEY WERE TO SHORT
MAKE YOUR FUCKIN MIND UP!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I THINK BOB ROCK DID A DAMN GOOD JOB
posted by :
6/13/2003 8:18:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
FUCK THOSE PEOPLE THAT BASH THE SOUND ON THE RECORD
I THINK IT WAS VERY CREATIVE WHAT BOB ROCK DID WITH THE RECORD
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE SUPPOSED TO DO? JUST FOLLOW EVERYBODY ELSE AND DO THE SAME DAMN THING????
IF THAT'S HOW IT WAS MUSIC WOULD NEVER EVER EVOLVE,
AT LEAST HE'S TRYING SOMETHING NEW AND TAKING MUSIC RECORDING IN A NEW DIRECTION.!!!!!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | They're BACK!!!
posted by :
6/14/2003 3:28:00 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
After being pulled down and drug through the mud with all of the "poor pitty me" nu-metal songs out there it was GREAT to hear and see the gods of Metal come back and kick everyones ass and show'em how metal is supposed to be! Fast, Heavy and in your face!!! The rough, raw production of the album is awsome and gives the feeling of sitting in the "A" room while the band is jamming. It has that "back in the garage" vibe like a band first starting up and putting all of the heart and emotion into the music! From a musician point of view it was great to hear the imperfections in the music, because it shows us that Metallica are human too, imagine that! I missed the Hammett solos, but I can understand them not fitting correctly to the songs, but the album sonds great without them awell! I've been a fan since '89 when I was 8 years old! They were the band to inspire me to pickup the guitar. I got my copy of St. Anger on 6/4/03 and it hasn't left my cd player once! My wife even went out and bought a second copy to keep in her car cd player aswell!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by : knife
6/14/2003 5:10:10 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
http://elektra.fanpimp.com/yotr/index.html?fuseaction=tools.invlink&u=uglyboyriding&linkID=9
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | anal retentive bastards...
posted by :
6/14/2003 11:28:56 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
No matter what, Metallica can't please everyone, especially not overanalyzing anal retentive bastards. They cut their hair, people call them sellouts. They leave their hair long, people call them monkeys. If the songs are long, people will say they are too long. If the songs are short, people will say they are too short. If St. Anger had the same production as Meteora, people would be rambling on about how overproduced the cd was. People are too stuck in the 80s to realize that music evolves. It's sad to know that if Metallica rehashed Ride the Lightning, fans would embrace it, because some of them aren't expecting anything else, besides that. And when they don't get it, they whine like little babies, and use the anonymity of the internet to go on message boards and bitch.
The review was good, and the album is ok, but growing on me.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I remember......
posted by : Evolution
6/14/2003 3:12:44 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I remember when I was about 8 years old (about 15 years ago) when I was first introduced to metal.. I didn't know shit about music at the time, but I knew that I didn't like the bullshit that my parents were always listening to.. Then I found that there were other kinds of music that would interest me a great deal.. Metallica was the first metal band I ever heard and I was immediately blown away.. Master of Puppets was the first album I heard and I couldn't imagine music being better than that... Furthermore, if it weren't for Metallica opening my eyes, I would be completely lost today... I learned to play guitar by listening to Metallica albums and trying to figure out what they were playing.. I am now playing guitar in a respectable old school metal band, which never would've happened had it not be for Metallica.. They are a very important part of my life, but at some point I realized that something was missing from their music.. Raw passion.... The music has alway been great and the lyrics have always made me think, but now, everything is different.. I remember when the Black album came out.. I thought it was one of the best pieces of music that I've ever heard in my life.. But everybody else was pissed off about it.. They said Metallica sold out and that the album was overproduced and watered down.. In reality, it's a beautifully put together album and beautifully played to boot... Then Load hit the streets... Once again, everyone said Metallica sold out, again...? Only this time it didn't seem to be as much about the music as it was about the length of the band's hair...? Come on people, that's just a stupid thing to be pissed off about... Load was also a beautiful album full of emotion and we also got to see how versatile Metallica (namely James) really is.. Even ReLoad had some amazing shit, though I will admit that I was not impressed with about half of that album.. It just seemed like they threw the whole thing together hastily just so they could throw another album out before their 5 year deadline.. But, everyone was pissed off about both of those albums just they same.. Because they weren't what everyone expected them to be because SOMEONE had started a rumor that Metallica were going back to their old school roots... Then St. Anger hits.... And once again, everyone is pissed off about it because it's not what they expected... GET OVER IT! I ask you this... Why did you buy St. Anger in the first place? I'll bet that most of you heard at least a tiny clip of a song, like Frantic, and you obviously liked it enough to go out and buy the album.. I swear.. You people just can't be satisified unless you have something to complain about.. If St. Anger had come out sounding like the black album, you all would've bitched because it was overproduced... If it had come out sounding like Master of Puppets, you all would've bitched because it wasn't fresh enough.. FACE IT! Metallica are not the same band they were 22 years ago... And they never will be! If you love music the way that I love music, then you would appreciate, or at least realize that Metallica have grown so much since Kill 'em All.. They have grown, not only as musicians, but as people.. This album was a necessary step in the evolution of Metallica and if you don't see that then how can you say that you were ever truly a fan of Metallica? Or of music in general? Yes, the production is bad, but it certainly isn't because they just cheaped out and didn't want to spend the time/money to make it sound like every other metal album nowadays.... It sounds exactly the way they wanted it to sound and I respect that.. They finally found that raw passion that they've been missing for so many years.. This album has more sincerity and passion than ANYTHING they've ever done before.. Go ahead, talk shit.. You can bitch all you want about this album, but it didn't matter how the album came out, you all would've found something about it that you hated and bitched about that.... It happens with everything.. It doesn't matter what it is, people are still going to hate it because people refuse to believe that accept the fact that things change.. Like Kirk said.. Metallica just got too big for all of you to carry around in your back pocket and that kills you... This album is fucking amazing and if you would all stop worrying about the production, or the sound of the snare then you would all see that too... And about the vocals... Anyone that has ever seen Metallica live knows that James Hetfield never really could sing all that well.. He sounds great on record, but that's only because he could take the time to fix anything that sounded just a little off... Live, it's a different story.. His voice cracks, he sings out of key, he even forgets lyrics sometimes.. So fucking what!? Not everyone has the voice of an angel.. Anyway.. This album is fucking great just like every other Metallica album has been and that's the bottom line... And when the next Metallica album comes out (if there is a next) it will be fucking amazing as well.. And all of you will go out and buy it just so you can have something else to bitch about.. How pathetic.....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | No ill tell ya whats pathetic...
posted by : SharonsRiddledColon
6/14/2003 6:32:13 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
making yourself like this album...just because of a name and the hype.This album,..yes,has some cool shit,but basiclly sucks..sounds like korn and there trying to hard it seems to be heavy.I give them credit for putting it out,bob cock couldv'e takin a walk though...metallica shouldve done this cd on there own without him..better luck next time guys...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | the truth
posted by :
6/14/2003 7:00:14 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
the reason why most of these new metallica albums suck is they are folllowing the herd now. Back in the 80's they were it the leaders of the metal generation. They came out with new different music that you never heard before. This is why all of these former loyal fans say fuck them now. I don't know what the hell they are now. Sounds like Limp Bizkit gone wild with snoop dog holding the camra. You wanna hear something new a band that gonna bring back the metal. Superjoint Ritual! I have heard some of the new songs face bashing riffs and phil don't sound as bad as he did in Use once and destroy.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | worst metal production in history
posted by :
6/14/2003 7:48:48 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT || worst production in metal history?
posted by: saskmetal
6/14/2003 7:47:04 PM I am stunned at the horrid production on St. Anger. All the heaviness is lost , and the drums sound worse than pots. How the hell could Bob Rock think this is a credible "street" sound or "garage" sound. It is worse than most bootlegs done with one mike. Pop on a recent Entombed if you want to hear a heavy yet rough production. Prediction: This will be a disaster and the biggest return to used cd shops since MC Hammer , No Doubt or Vanilla Ice. If I , being a supporter of underground metal , find it unlistenable...how the hell could a mainstream "rocker" or a chick listen to it??? Never.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | So funny
posted by :
6/14/2003 8:41:29 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
It's funny how people get pissed at such petty things. Why bash? Why hate? Get over it!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | burn Kirk?
posted by :
6/14/2003 8:45:29 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Allow me to respond to the dude who thinks he can burn Kirk....... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | pure crap
posted by :
6/14/2003 9:39:57 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
well?... what can i say?... its another sell-out. the whole cd sounds like my neighbor's mom--->nothin' but noise. where's the talent in all of this? chug-chug here chug-chug there, scream here yell there. i could do better than that! its hard to accept that a band that i really look up to will do something so PUNY. very very disappointing. don't they get ashamed of themselves? i don't think they deserve the name METALLICA anymore. (sigh)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I like the album
posted by :
6/15/2003 2:09:27 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
and yes I wasn't too high on load and reload they had there good songs but not solid. Musical tastes change over the years because if they didn't we'd still be hearing cookie cutter rock that dominated the eighties and the seventies.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | 2 Things To Say
posted by :
6/15/2003 9:28:46 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Firstly let me start with my 2 word review...
Shit Sandwich!
On the bright side they may have slowed their piracy problems down, its so crap that chances are nobody will be bothered downloading it!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | THIS CD IS EXCELLENT!!
posted by :
6/15/2003 10:51:35 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
This CD sounds different then anything I've ever heard before. That's not meant to be a putdown but this is something fresh and odd in the same sentence.
Let me start by saying that I thought the Load CD's were each very good for the music they contained not for the music that Master or Kill them contained, that to me is the big difference on how oyu rate a CD. It must be done on the quality of the music not the quality of the past. Granted they did leave many of us wondering what the hell had happened. I expect a band and almost demand a band to explore other sounds and styles not straying to far from the original. I know some will say they did but not me.
Now back to my thoughts on the SAINT ANGER...On the first listen I found myself really listening to what the hell they were doing instead of letting it flow. I believe this CD will not sit well with anyone on the 1st & 2nd spin, but after that 3rd you'll begin to appreciate the orginalness of this recording. I have read other reviews and I see thgat people want to know where teh hell the production is? Well to me that is what makes this so good, it gets back to the RAWNESS that is HEAVY METAL and ROCK AND ROLL! I shake my head when I hear..."The vocals are just not right" or "Wow how could they have that drum sounding like that?" If you want all sounds to be perfect pick up a N'Sync CD or better yet, how about, Michael Jackson!
Metallica has given us something that has not be done by any other, they have once again shown that they care less about music critics and care about what is in their hearts.
This CD is what they wanted and you'll agree if you get past all the bullshit you read in press. I guess somewhere in our thoughts we would love to get back to Ride the Lighting, but that's been done, and this CD hasn't!
Pick it up and give it a chance based soley on it's musical merits and I believe you'll find yourself headbanging after the 3rd spin too!!!
SCACLE 1-10 = 8
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | R.I.P Metallica 1987
posted by :
6/15/2003 11:09:41 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
St.Anger is a big joke .. James lyrics totaly suck ... Lars play garbage drums ...
Well, the only people who love this album are nu-metal fans ..
Whith that crap and Ego-attitude .. I know why Jason left the band and play with Voivod (new cd is very good )!
And finally , when I watched MTV Metallica special and saw Avril Lavigne play Fuel and called her a Metal Fan ....... The first thing I said is : don't buy anymore Metallica album ( also James liked Avril gigs)..
The Alternatives are easy : Iron Maiden , Slayer , In Flames , Helloween , Dream Evil , Iced Earth , Gamma Ray .......
It's up to you !
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | mettalmann:
posted by :
6/15/2003 10:48:57 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I agree completely. These bashers (most of whom are quite pitiful) should sit down and listen to this album for what it is original and somewhat inspiring. Comparing it to all that nu-metal shit is just wrong, it is nothing like that. Its a balls-out, honest hard rock album which is something hard to come by these days.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Actually...
posted by : Evolution
6/15/2003 10:53:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I like St. Anger and I fucking hate nu-metal.. I grew up on Slayer, Metallica, and Suicidal Tendencies... I appreciate different styles of music, unless it's nu-metal because nu-metal is stupid... And I also don't pay attention to hype or reputation.. I only buy what I like... And simple guitar riffs do not mean that it's nu-metal... Look at COC, most of that shit is simple as hell.. Blues type stuff.. But are they nu-metal? Most of you would probably say that Slipknot are nu-metal, but not really.. Their drummer is insanely precise, the singer is metal as fuck and the guitar players do play some technical shit from time to time... Anyway... Shadows Fall, In Flames, Killswitch Engage, Slayer, Iced Earth, Meshuggah, Into Eternity, etc. are all amazing fucking bands and they're all more metal than Metallica is today, but St. Anger is still a good album in my humble opinion......
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | blackerdays
posted by :
6/16/2003 7:10:38 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
And as for your earlier posts..you said their are 2 types of metallica fans..you named 3 types...2 duh....3...duh...learn to count......just go by the 5 sloppy schlongs dangling in front of your puckered ball juggler you call a mouth.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | though
posted by :
6/16/2003 7:13:00 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
even though your obviously an underpaid 70's porn star..you are right...Testament kicks ass...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Whaaaat?
posted by :
6/16/2003 7:38:03 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
St Anger.
Abso-muthafukkin-lutely. Its a fukkin classic. Rips a new arsehole in metal.
Pussies like you guys are simply bashin cause you were all wrong and now dont want to admit it.
"All within my hands" is Thrash 2003. A certifiable classic.
Fuck you all.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Listened to it all
posted by :
6/16/2003 10:03:53 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Awesome album. It has imperfections but thats such as life. It doesn't sound like anything I've heard from any other band.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | blackerdays,
posted by :
6/16/2003 10:10:56 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
hate to burst your bubble about that 2 types of metallica fans thing you were talking about before. But i think its safe to say without being arrogant or anything like that that i fit into the "third group of metallica fans". From what ive read of your posts it seems that you think that true metal is thrash such as Testament, Slayer, Kreator etc and i agree because i love listening to those bands too. I also listen to brutal death bands like Sikfuk, Fuck... Im Dead and Circle Of Dead Children, regular death metal like Suffocation, Skinless and Cephalic Carnage, black metal like Immortal, Emperor and Enslaved, grindcore like Napalm Death and Carcass, death thrash like Possessed and Slaughter Lord. Alot of people have different oppinions about what is "true", but i think if its heavy and kicks ass its true enough for me. Im not trying to act like a know it all metalhead, im just saying what i like.
I like the new album, admittedly its no where near as good as Ride the Lightning but GHUA by Slayer wasnt as good as Reign in Blood or Seasons in the Abyss but you dont see so many people criticizing them. Metallica cant play what they used to be because theyve grown up. Obviously hett cant write lyrics like the ones off Kill and Ride. I wish people could just understand that. They arnt gonna call it quits just because of these reasons because they obviously still love doing what they do. Plus when they play live they do most of their old classics anyway.
I cant understand why people take so much time to bag something they dont like, it just proves theyve got nothing better to do. I hate limp bizkit but i can truly not be bothered going to their website for the sole purpose of abusing and saying how shit they are.
Not trying to start a fight, and i probably wont even check back so dont bother abusing me.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | True to fans
posted by :
6/16/2003 10:14:34 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
How do you define being true to fans when it is a univesal fact that you can't please everyone all the time? Just because a group of one time fans didn't like the new music doesn't mean that all hated it. I hate to tell all you disappointed ex-fans, but ALL big name bands are in the music business to make money. Even Testament and Iron Maiden. There are just some bands that try to expand their horizons. Some bands just stay the same.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | F*CKIN' NAIL BOB ROCK TO THE CROSS UPSIDE DOWN!!!
posted by :
6/16/2003 11:09:43 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
this is all Bob Rock's fault! he's brainwashed the band i admire most and now all they think about is money, stupid videos, magazines, and more money! i've been waiting for years to hear another puppets or justice-like album and all i got in the past decade is nothing but pathetic songs with lyrics full of "YEAHs" and "BABYs". they don't care about writing "true metallica songs" anymore. they're making a really big mistake with the way their handling their careers right now. sad... sad... sad...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | RedeemeR
posted by :
6/16/2003 11:38:10 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
THEIR career, exactly.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | www.ANEWLOWRECORDS.com
posted by :
6/16/2003 2:48:06 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
metallica=poop
www.anewlowrecords.com
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | EXAMPLE OF A TRUE METAL BAND:
posted by :
6/16/2003 2:54:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
DARK THRONE...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Metallica are good!
posted by : Metalisforlife
6/16/2003 3:54:50 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
So there.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | What's the point???
posted by :
6/16/2003 5:14:13 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
What is the point? Really?? Why do people feel the need to totally rip on somebody based on if they like a CD or not or a certain band?? Just makes no sense to me whatsoever.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | poor blacker days
posted by :
6/16/2003 6:03:37 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
did i hit a vein..you looselipped,assraped-greenape,pigraping, boloneyhole. My parents didn't help me do shit, I did it all in my own..i don't do films because I am a graphic designer you fucking sperm-guzzling scrote. Also get a spellcheck buddy. I laugh at your inability to make me mad, I am having a good time making you look like a scab encrusted tool, and you try to get all philosophical and talk about transferrence. You have watched way too many midget porn movies blowhole. I cracked on you because you lacked the moral fibre of looking past the cover, and your a fairweather fan. I don't give a flying fuck at impressing you, I just feel I needed to enlighten your puny life, now back to that burger bitch...two pickles, no mayo,lettuce, ketchup. Do you have any cherry bendover's and not the one slammed between your cheeks you ethiopian jugfucker. C'mon post again..show me your neandrathal mentality, come down to my level....haha you weakwristed,polesmoking,sackjuggling,ferretfucker.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | and the points
posted by :
6/16/2003 6:06:34 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
are just piling up...lobo 2 blackerhump 0
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Saint thats angered
posted by :
6/16/2003 6:12:45 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
good shit...8 out of 10...lobo 2...blackhump 0. Peace
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | OH YEAH, COCK LICKIN CUNTINHAM
posted by :
6/16/2003 7:55:14 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
NICE TRY BUT SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LITTLE BITCH!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | point proven
posted by :
6/16/2003 8:53:43 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
beaten to the bricks, battered and bloody one blackerdays was found dead from anal seapage, apparently was engaging in gangland analsex while serving burgers to a small community of rednecks in west virginia. tonight on MBYC NEWS....channel 69
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | AND BLACKER DAYS, SOUNDS LIKE YOUR THE ONE ON THE END OF RITCHIES COCK
posted by :
6/16/2003 9:07:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
FUCK YOUR A SICK MOTHER FUCK
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | YEAH BLACKER DAYS!!
posted by :
6/16/2003 9:08:58 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
NOW TELL ME, WHAT THE FUCK IS IGNORANT ABOUT LIKING AN ALBUM.
THE ONLY FUCKIN IGNORANT THING AROUND HERE IS YOU
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | EXTRA!!!! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!!!!CUNTINGHAM FUCKS BLACK DAYS UP THE HOOP AND LIKES IT!!!!!!
posted by :
6/16/2003 9:11:12 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
COME ON, LET ER RIP!! I DARE YA, YOU BUNCH OF FUCKIN TOOTHLESS COCK SMOKING INDIANS!!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | i'd give it a 7 out of 10
posted by : You Don't Know Me
6/16/2003 9:15:13 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
good album. too many flaws though. and the complete lack of guitar solos pisses me off. Het's vocals are okay. lyrics are piss poor. some of the songs are WAY too long. i've heard some better production from local bands (that's sad but true). and the one last bone i have to pick with this album is that there's NOT ONE SINGLE SONG PLAYED IN STANDARD TUNING!!! everything is either drop tuned or played on a 7-string or baritone guitar. but i do enjoy most of the songs (even if some of them are too long for their own good)
i'm surprised that he said that "Shoot Me Again" was a bad track. i actually like that track. "Invisible Kid" i could do without though.
and he didn't mention anything about the DVD that came with it.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | you know...
posted by : You Don't Know Me
6/16/2003 9:25:04 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
thinking about it, this is the SECOND worst Metallica album ever. of course, first worst goes to Reload but even Reload is starting to loose it's spot. the new CD isn't that bad but it's pretty far from being great or really good. it's okay at best.
my new rating for this album is a 5 out of 10.
all of my previous comments stand.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | www.PROJECT1LIVE.com
posted by : joearnold
6/16/2003 11:29:49 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Metallica paved the way twenty years ago by having balls and taking chances. Whether you like the new album or not, they still have balls and they're always taking chances, and they never cared about what the hell anyone thought, anyway. PS-Write a better album,......than talk shit. PSS- For a kick ass metal band, you may or maynot enjoy more than Metallica, go to http://www.project1live.com. Especially check out the new MP3's and live videos!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Lionel Ritchie rocks
posted by : ed
6/17/2003 1:19:45 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
End of story.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | blackened is the end...
posted by :
6/17/2003 5:17:27 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
"All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name.
I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one."
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | there you go
posted by :
6/17/2003 5:23:23 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
the perfect quote for metallica
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | no brainer
posted by :
6/17/2003 11:16:14 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
i don't get it. there's lots of us who hate(others despise) St. Anger but still its on the top of the charts and its selling like hotcakes. maybe its because of the solid fans. like in my case, im a real metallica fan. which means whatever they release, no matter how it sucks, i have to get it because i collect them. and i guess that's the part that hurts me most --- i buy because i'm a fan instead of i buy because i like their music. tsk... tsk... tsk...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | washed up
posted by : mojo
6/17/2003 1:00:49 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
This CD is absolutely pathetic. A total piece of shit. Give up boys , the ride is over. It's a shame that millions of people wil be sucked in to buying this recording, me included, never again!! Horrible production, arrangements, vocals, lyrics.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | This post is for...
posted by :
6/17/2003 2:12:30 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
...HellRazor and him only (or no wait, now I scrolled up to Richie Cuntingham too, so this is for you as well): Hey stoopid(s)! Calm the fuck down, noone is impressed by the way you are trying to insult everyone who actually like "St. Anger". Couldn't you at least TRY and act mature?
Hey guess what? Noone is a "retarded ape" (oooh, I looove the way you put that, baby!) because they like a certain album or a certain band. I would LOVE to call you a "retarded ape" just because of the fact that you adore Iron Maiden (and yes, I think that's a shitty and very overrated band), but I won't. Because... well, I just won't.
"St. Anger" is a good album. Not magnificent, not even great, just good.
This is the first time I ever logged on to this pathetic forum, and I will never ever come back, so don't bother replying with your silly comments.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | blackerhump
posted by :
6/17/2003 2:21:12 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Man, your posts are sounding more and more like a man beaten, or gangraped in a tijuana prison. Just walk on home boy, give it up, because you can't beat the master. So go back to sodomizing mongoloids, finger fucking your little brother and don't forget to Iron your khakis from banana republic to cover up those misfits tattoos..they arent the "in" thing this year.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | blackerhump
posted by :
6/17/2003 2:21:25 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Man, your posts are sounding more and more like a man beaten, or gangraped in a tijuana prison. Just walk on home boy, give it up, because you can't beat the master. So go back to sodomizing mongoloids, finger fucking your little brother and don't forget to Iron your khakis from banana republic to cover up those misfits tattoos..they arent the "in" thing this year.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | now what?
posted by : X-fan
6/17/2003 4:02:14 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Bah! Listen to all the nay-sayers trashing this album. Sounds to me like a LOT of people had their comments written down long before they even listened to the contents of the CD. There's just no pleasing people for whom good music is an intangible entity found 20 years in the past or people who just don't like bands who have gotten too big to be on a first-name basis with all of their 25 fans. So if anyone feels compelled to throw petty gay-remarks at me for liking "St. Anger", then so be it.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Preach on brother
posted by :
6/17/2003 4:27:02 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Preach on brother X-fan. I don't know what the hell some of these people want. Metallica gives us a heavy album that is very good and unique (what else should we expect from them??) and just because it isn't what they wanted, they feel the need to bash the band and anyone who likes the album. I just don't get it.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Indeed...
posted by : X-fan
6/17/2003 4:33:18 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
with the masters of metal finally back, perhaps now this whole nu-metal fiasco will be put to rest - one can only hope.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT |
posted by :
6/17/2003 6:13:51 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
HAIL TO THE ACTUAL AND OLD TRUE BANDS:
METALLICA (PRE-LOAD), BLACK SABBATH, DEEP PURPLE, LED ZEPPELIN, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD, PINK FLOYD, YES, EMERSON LAKE & PALMER, MOTÖRHEAD, AC/DC, IRON MAIDEN, MANOWAR, CIRITH UNGOL, JUDAS PRIEST, ACCEPT, SLAYER, CELTIC FROST, HELLHAMMER, VENOM, BATHORY, SODOM, DESTRUCTION, KREATOR, EXODUS, TESTAMENT, DARK ANGEL, POSSESSED, SEPULTURA, DARK THRONE, IMMORTAL, MAYHEM, BURZUM, EMPEROR, MARDUK, DARK FUNERAL, ROTTING CHRIST, GRAVELAND, BLASPHEMY, BEHERIT, BLACK WITCHERY, ANTAEUS, CATHEDRAL, KYUSS, WARHORSE, HIGH ON FIRE, GOATSNAKE, ELECTRIC WIZARD, SPIRIT CARAVAN, ST.VITUS, CIANIDE, DEATH, MASSACRE, MORBID ANGEL, DEICIDE, AUTOPSY, DEATHSTRIKE, INCANTATION, ABOMINATOR, BENEDICTION, ENTOMBED, DISMEMBER, GRAVE, FLESHCRAWL, ASPHYX, DISCHARGE, DOOM, EXTREME NOISE TERROR, NAPALM DEATH, CARCASS, PUNGENT STENCH, AGATHOCLES, BENUMB, ETC....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | lobo 3 blackerhump 1
posted by :
6/17/2003 6:47:04 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
gave you a point..felt sorry for ya.....how bout that burger tittyhump
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | AND IT SHOWS BLACK DAYS IS A TOTAL FUCK WAD
posted by :
6/17/2003 7:46:32 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
CAUSE HE WRITES THE SAME THING AS I DID ABOUT HIM AND LOBO,
THINK FOR YOURSELF FUCKO!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | FAIR ENOUGH LOBO
posted by :
6/17/2003 7:52:06 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
THE OLD ALBUMS WERE AS YOU SAID CLASSICS, AND PAVED THE WAY FOR MUSIC.
BUT YOUR LIST THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FIT ALL NEW METALLICA FANS DIDN'T MATCH ME AT ALL,
I LOVE THE OLD STUFF BUT I REALLY DO HONESTLY THINK THE NEW ALBUM IS PRETTY GOOD. THE END
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | OH, I MENT FAIR ENOUGH TO RICHIE CUBBINGHAM
posted by :
6/17/2003 7:56:05 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
WRONG GUY
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | BLACK DAYS FINGER FUCKS HIS LITTLE BROTHER!!HAHAHA
posted by :
6/17/2003 7:57:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
ALL THIS WHILE HIS DAD SHOVES BANANA'S UP HIS CORN HOLE!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ST ANGER IS GOOD AND UNIQUE
posted by :
6/17/2003 8:01:06 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I ADMIT A FEW THINGS STUCK OUT AT FIRST, LIKE LARS PINGY SNARE, SOME OF THE REPEATED CHANTED LIKE ST.ANGER OR SHOOT ME AGAIN,
BUT FUCK THE ALBUM IS FAST AND HEAVY,
SO TRY LISTENING TO MORE THAN 5 SECONDS OF EACH SONG FUCK HEADS WHO TRASH IT. STUPID SHIT, SILLY SHIT,
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | BLACK DAYS FINGER FUCKS HIS LITTLE BROTHER!!HAHAHA
posted by :
6/17/2003 8:13:39 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
BLACKDAY'S GAY FOR HIM IT'S OKAY FINGER FUCKS HIS BROTHERS ASS EVERYDAY!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Sad
posted by :
6/17/2003 10:49:24 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Really sad, would you guys please stop trying to cuss each other out. Its so pathetic. Its actually making me more depressed thinking about how much time you guys have spent making up little insults for each other. blackerdays I have agreed with many things you have said like on the Voivod cd review but please, I would recommend saving your insults for people you are in the same state, or even better, the same room as you.
But thats just me...
Later
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | HEY BLACKDAYS , IS IT TRUE?
posted by :
6/17/2003 10:51:23 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I HEARD YOU HAD AN AFFAIR WITH ELTON JOHN? JUST CHECKING SPANKY
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | THATS RIDICULOUS BLACKDAYS
posted by :
6/17/2003 10:52:45 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
IT'S NICE TO SEE IT TAKES YOU A WHOLE NOVEL TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS
ONE WORD, FUCK OFF PEE-WEE!!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | BLACK DAYS SMOKES THE CRACK!!!
posted by :
6/17/2003 10:56:50 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
AT LEAST WE HAVE BALLZ BLACKDAYS
YOUR THE ONE WITH TWO LEGS AND A PUSSY!!!!
HAHAHA
LATER(ALUS)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | WE SURE GOT THE BEST OF BLACKDAYS
posted by :
6/17/2003 10:59:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
GOT YOUR FUCKIN CHAIN RIGHT RATTELED HEY?
GOT ANY MORE AMUSING STUFF THERE PEE-WEE???
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY THERE PEE-WEE
posted by :
6/17/2003 11:00:44 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
THATS RIGHT, GO PRACTICE UP
GET THAT LITTLE PEE SKULL OF YOURS WORKING
YOU COCKSMOKER!!!!
LATER(ALUS)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ok
posted by :
6/18/2003 12:37:08 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
metalica has always sucked and always well. so fucking stop giving them all the props the get. Instead other band desirve a little too. The like sof Pantera or Slayer havent ever really got the respect the desirve and never will because people are too busy suck teh cocks of metalica.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Sure dude
posted by :
6/18/2003 1:27:16 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
But before voicing your opinion, try spelling the name of the band right. If you don't know the name of the band, I doubt you have heard them or know much about them so thanks but no thanks.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | blackerdays
posted by :
6/18/2003 2:05:02 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
you write alot...a whole lot of nothing. they wounldnt find my remains huh....hahah...they wold spot my cock sticking out of the dirt....and then your mouth sucking the pole...so they would find me...do they have police in mississippi? I see that you think you repeating our comments back to us is good reading. Get your own material dude, I will have to start copywriting your punk ass. Anytime you want to challenge the big dog to a fight ya dirty pusshole come to 1910 skidaway road, savannah ga, apartment 29a...and I would gladly fist fuck you and pop your head off like a tulip, but buddy..you don't get under my skin. You make me laugh, that last post...boy you sounded mad...you were genuinely foaming at the mouth and shitting bricks. It's okay buddy...your losing, big time and this will be my last post..your bore the shit out of me. Peace...I will let Hogghead have my scraps..and he will use you as a plastic fuckdoll.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Been a while
posted by :
6/18/2003 3:04:21 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Been a while since I've been here. Jusy want to respond to balckerdays with a question if he comes back. I can understand that by changing, one time metallica fans felt betrayed by the new style of music. I even recall an interview with James Hetfield in which he stated that Metallica writes the music they want to write. If people don't like it they shouldn't buy the album. That enraged many one-time fans. Isn't writing what they want and playing what they want being true to themselfs though? Music is still an art form even though we've been blinded by the "music Corporation" perspective. Art is made up and expressed and thrown into the wind to be accepted or shuned. True to their fans? Marginal. True to themselfs? Definatly.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | The best thing said here yet
posted by :
6/18/2003 4:46:48 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
My hat's off to you GTO. That's easily the best post I've seen on here yet concerning Metallica.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Doing what they want
posted by :
6/18/2003 4:58:52 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
New metalica album - its dissappointing, the production isn't very happening and the songs get boring and methodical. I like the fact that the guys do what they want to do, they don't conform and there is definately no BS, but there isn't a song that really grabs me. Good songs/ music supposed to grab a person and take them to another place or remind them of a certain place or moment - there are no grabbers. The DVD is better than the Audio CD, and is a real nice touch I even like the song versions on the DVD better than on the Audio CD. I keep on looking forward to the HOT METAL DAY that I'll be able to see them perform. Its the only thing that is driving me is that I will be able to see Metallica live this summer and for anybody that hasn't seen them live, they haven't seen a concert yet. We'll see what happens next. Peace!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I KNEW YOU WERE A FUCKIN CHICKEN BLACKDAYS
posted by :
6/18/2003 7:45:47 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
CATCH YA LATER PEE-WEE!!!!!
LATER(ALUS)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | THERES ONE BOTTOM LINE, AND ONE ONLY
posted by :
6/18/2003 7:52:06 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS IF YOU TRULY LIKE A BAND OR NOT.
I HERE METALLICA SOLD OUT, SONGS ARE TO LONG, LYRICS ARE SHIT, NO SOLOS, FUCK THIS RECORDING, FUCK THAT RECORDING.
BOTTOM LINE IS I THINK IS A GREAT ALBUM AND IM SURE SO DO MANY OTHERS.
I CAN GUARANTEE I WOULDNT AGREE WITH SOME OF THE BANDS OTHERS LISTEN TO, ID PROBALLY DIE LAUGHING, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IM RIGHT
WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES.THINK FOR YOURSELF. QUESTION AUTHORITY
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Nothing left....
posted by :
6/18/2003 9:50:53 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
After this atrocity that the band is calling st,nger, i don't see how anyone new fan or old can find anything of value on there new disc. Just listen to your local high school garage band if you want to listen to simplistic and generic song structures, with ultra chessy lyrics. This shit is so awful i want my cdr back that i wasted to burn this piece of shit. I'm glad i wasn't the sucker that actually paid for a copy of this waste of plastic.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | 's better than Reload
posted by :
6/19/2003 7:46:04 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Well, St Anger may be less than expected but frankly which would we rather listen to? St Anger or Reload? To all who chose Reload - you my friend, are a buffoon. Dont worry everyone, the next record will be heavier - better bass for one, more guitar solos...etc. And if it sucks well at least the one after thatll be good. Hopefully. Besides St Anger aint *that* bad. Just not that good.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Hilarous page on Metallica & St. Anger
posted by : Jarlaxle
6/19/2003 1:58:46 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Check out this link: http://pwp.netcabo.pt/damrho/metallica/new.html
LMAO
BTW, it's really entertaining to read posts here: how some Metallica fans still embrace the album and even try to defend the production, while majority of the world make fun of the record. It must be like being a soccer team fan. Even though your team sucks, you still support them and ignore bad play, critics, etc.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | STOP WHINING
posted by : SLAVE1
6/19/2003 4:13:44 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I just want to say that I bought the new album and I have listened to it several times. I will admit the production is shitty and that snare drum is double shitty but I think all in all the sum of the whole thing is better than it's parts. There is some cheesiness in some of the lyrics but anyone who listens to it has to admit that this is some of the heaviest music they have written in over 10 years. I mean all production aside listen to the music. I also just want to point out that since Metallica's inception they have been about change. They have always kept it changing and like them or not they keep people on their toes and this album is definately in keeping with that tradition. To all those people who feel "insulted" or "slapped in the face" by this album, GROW UP! They make this music for themselves as much as they make it for us and they have to be true to that. If they sat around and wrote the songs everyone wanted to hear then they would be just the trendy posers that they and we all hate. If you think about it no matter what the album had sounded like some of you out there would bitch. If they tried to write and ablum sounding like KEA, RTL or MOP in addition to not being able to pull it off due to age you would have bitched because these has beens were trying to play old metal whose time unfortunately is past. If they had written it like AJFA it would also sound dated. Face it no one is writing music like that anymore. It's over. And finally if they had written it like Black, Load or Reload you would bitch because they sound the same as the last three albums. So they go and write a totally different album using an approach to songwriting that no one would have expected and you bitch about that to. So Kirk didn’t play solos. WHO CARES? Alot of his solos were cool but a lot of them were gay and redundant. And the idea of putting a solo in every song just for the sake of having one is long dead. Very few can still pull it off well (ie Zakk Wylde). I got sick of hearing that stupid wah pedal in every song anyway. It's time he got a break. No solos kicks ass. So that's my two cents and probably a little more. So to all the non-believers FUCK OFF! Metallica is different. Face it. But they still got it and this new album is worth buying. METALLICA RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | JUST READ MY LAST POST.
posted by :
6/19/2003 4:40:42 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
oops! Sorry for the typos!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | A few solos would have been nice...
posted by : X-fan
6/19/2003 5:53:31 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
St. Anger i still a solid album, though. The nay-sayers are always gonna be there complaining just for the sake of complaining. It's getting tedious, but that's just life, I guess.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | hahha
posted by :
6/19/2003 6:29:20 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Welcome. Hope you like what you hear and what we’re trying to create -- a site featuring ever-changing archives of audio (and video coming soon!) at your fingertips and ready to download in high quality streams. You may have heard some of the songs (or even an entire concert) that are included in the Vault already (from a bootleg CD, or maybe another source) - maybe you were at the show, but don’t sweat it. This is only the beginning. We’ll be dropping more music in as often as we can.
Special thanks to Speakeasy for being our partners on this site -- a place where you can come and get our music. We’re trying to get you the best quality the best way possible and free.
The shows that are currently featured were chosen because the quality of these particular recordings is among the best that exist, and most of you have not had the chance to hear them.
You will notice that there are a few things missing from most of the concerts...COVERS. Unfortunately, if we didn’t write the song, we can’t post it without permission from the songwriters (there’s a lot of business bulls**t that we won’t bother you with). We’re working on getting clearances for as many or all of the great cover songs that you’ve come to know and love and hopefully they’ll be included in the Vault soon. In the meantime, thanks for understanding.
All of the music posted for the launch of the site came from OUR collection, but we don’t claim to have ALL of the best recordings out there. Any of you guys that have any cool tapes lying around let us know – it would be much appreciated. In other words, if you’ve got some great live Metallica shit recorded, and you think that others would like it, send it in to us, and if it sounds good, it’ll go up! We want to share as much stuff as we can with everybody. All music (live CDs and DATs only please) should be sent to: The Metallica Vault, 369 Third Street, PMB #194, San Rafael, CA 94901 - ATTN: Metallica Vault. You can send entire shows, or just a few songs...whatever works best. But remember, only send the real thing. Submissions will not be returned, and all will become property of Metallica.
There are no guarantees if or when they will be added to the Vault.
In order to make the Vault as valuable as it can be, we need to hear from you. Please e-mail us with any comments on what can be done to make the Metallica Vault better. http://www.metallicabb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30934
Stream it, download it, burn it do whatever the fuck you want with the music it’s ours to give and now it’s yours to take. Enjoy.
THE KEEPERS OF THE VAULT
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I love this album
posted by :
6/19/2003 6:47:21 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Its not really nu metal. If it is it has more System of a down than anything like limp shitskit or (that other terrible band they're touring with. Maybe a bit of classic machine head, even a touch of tool. But its still metallica. I love the production. THis is a person who loves old emperor and black flag remember. I think metallica is TRYING to go back to something better, maybe not totally succeeding, and im not fooled that money had nothing to do with it. But its all bout personal taste. I happen to love IT. Its miles above world needs a hero - no offense dave.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | its pathetic though
posted by :
6/19/2003 6:52:26 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
that the new voivod got two stars in rolling stone and this got four. Pretty fucking sad because Voivod rules. (dont read the review you'll puke on how little of a clue the reviewer has)
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | It sucks
posted by :
6/20/2003 12:12:45 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
I've said it time and time again in tons of these little discussion boards. It sucks. It's lazy, and any other explanation is simply an excuse. The end.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Too many backseat drivers...
posted by : Maybe
6/20/2003 2:01:30 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Everyone seems to know what Metallica should be doing better than Metallica. How sad. I like the album. It's raw, it's rough, it rocks in many places. You don't like it, you want another Metallica? You're living in the past. They will never go back to what they did before - learn to live with it. In the meantime I'm digging the new stuff. You can't handle that? Suck me.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Total C-R-A-P
posted by :
6/20/2003 12:07:19 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Cliff Burton would be so ashamed of this sorry piece of shit release. FUCK BOB ROCK & his corporate false metal production!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | NUTALLICA BORN...
posted by :
6/20/2003 5:52:29 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I listened to a 44-second MP3 clip of the projected title track from the forthcoming EXODUS album, "Tempo Of The Damned": TRUE THRASH!!!
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Cliff Burton............
posted by : Cirith Ungol
6/21/2003 9:10:51 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
is fucking rolling over in his grave and doing back flips. This is god awful, and Metallica should be fucking ashamed of themselves. They owe us WAY more than this.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | They OWE us?
posted by : SLAVE1
6/21/2003 11:56:00 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
How the fuck do they OWE anyone anything. Get your head out of your ass and grow up.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | The Way I see it
posted by :
6/21/2003 6:09:58 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
People whined they want it heavy with a raw sound. They got it & then they whine.
As for they owe us? They don't owe us anything. If you were a fan of my band and said "you owe me" I'd spit in your face and tell you music is my outlet, it was your choice to follow, I don't owe you shit. I personally like the CD as it is jam oriented, and I find jam-made songs are more fun. If you wan't to hear something simialar to master of puppets, go buy the cd & listen to it. As for Cliff, don't fucking bring him in, let the dead rest and don't state what you think a dead guy thinks eh? Have some courtesy ass.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Do you realize that...
posted by : Demonio
6/21/2003 7:28:01 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Metallica has sucked for over a decade now.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | 2 words:
posted by : sepulqotsa
6/21/2003 8:23:22 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Sepultura. Roorback.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | JAMES TO LARS, 2002:
posted by : pissant
6/22/2003 10:51:50 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
"Hey Beavis, lets put out an album that sucks, and it'll go platinum in like...three hours."
"Yea, that would be cool..heh-hem."
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | At least is quite better thanthe Loads
posted by :
6/22/2003 5:35:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
The songs are a way better than the Loads songs but some things makes the album less enjoyable. a) The lack of solos (Metallica is known by the good solos of Kirk) b) The drums ( snare too loud & the bass drums to thin) c) Bass ( same problem as AJFA) Overall , it's slighty better than the Loads
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Poor Cliff
posted by : Noble Cyborg Savage
6/22/2003 7:42:11 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
We still miss ya. It's a shame Metallica destroyed what you helped create.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | About Cliff.....
posted by : Evolution
6/23/2003 1:37:02 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Cliff Burton would more likely be more than happy with the direction Metallica has taken over the last 10 years.. In the old days, Cliff was SOLELY responsible for the early melodic songs as he was the only one in the band who really understood music theory and melody... If Cliff Burton were still alive, Load and Reload would've happened much sooner than they did because that's what Cliff would've wanted... Granted, St. Anger probably never would've been made, but Metallica would still be a COMPLETELY different band today compared to what they were 20 years ago, yes, because of Cliff... He wasn't the metal maestro that you seem to think he was... He was all about beauty and melody when it came to music... That's why he played the way he did... Also, if Cliff were still alive, we probably would have never heard of Jason Newsted.. How many of you went out and bought the new Voivod just because you knew Jason was playing bass? Or even better, how many of you went out and bought that lame ass Echobrain CD? I personally don't give a shit about either of those bands, Jason or no Jason... But rest assured, Metallica would still be pissing you off today if Cliff Burton were still around.. In fact, they would've pissed you all off a long time ago if that were the case.... And as far as Metallica owing us something, I'm with that Riffage guy... If you told my band that we owed you something, we would ALL slap you upside your head... Metallica does what they do for the same reason that they've always done it, and for the same reason that I do..... Because that's all they fucking know! They've been doing this shit since they were kids, it's their life... And one more opinion before I got..(not that any of you really care, but) attacking people on a message board because of a difference of opinion is really kind of stupid... I said some shit earlier, but it wasn't directed at any specific person.. You people should really just get together and kick the shit out of each other if you have that much of a problem.. Addressing your problems on a message board doesn't solve anything, though I suppose it can be fun....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | ...And Justice for All
posted by : Evolution
6/23/2003 1:47:07 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
What the fuck?! I must have missed that post.. There is one major difference between that bass on St. Anger and the bass on AJFA, and that is simply that you can actually HEAR the bass on St. Anger.. If you can't hear it, then you're not paying attention.. On Justice, the bass wasn't even there.. Or at least, it might as well have not been there because you couldn't hear it at all.. Metallica seemed to be having difficulty allowing someone who wasn't Cliff to play bass and maybe they really thought he sucked and just didn't want anyone to hear how bad he was... So what if Bob Rock played bass on St. Anger? Bob Rock is actually a pretty good bass player, apparently, and they did what they had to do.... And another thing, even though this may or may not be the place for it, have any of you heard of a band called Into Eternity? I can't seem to find anyone who has ever heard this band and this saddens me as they are quite good.. One of those classical/metal fusion bands with those wild classical guitar solos... It's great and you should all go check it out.. It's kind of like Dream Theater, but less Prog and more streamlined....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Big Mistakes
posted by :
6/23/2003 6:36:19 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
Yo All,
The first mistake that Metallica did was to agree with Bob Rock that Hetfield can sing. Hetfield is not a signer, is a barker. I'm not saying that barking is bad, otherwise, for this type of music it's perfect. It brings credibility to what you stand for. An example, the sentense " Fuck it all and no regrets " appears in two Metallica songs St-Anger & Damage Inc. Listen to both of them and you will find out that in St-Anger, Hetfield has no credibility in saying it.
Second, i'm sure that in 2 or 3 years, Metallica will come back saying that St-Anger was a mistake and to try once again to lure their fans into something better... witch i'm not sure they can do...
Sorry guys but you are not ANGRY anymore.... It really shows when Hetfield tries to sing...
So long....
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Face Facts
posted by :
6/24/2003 11:40:03 AM
|
 |
 |
 |
Face facts guys...Metallica is NEVER gonna release another KEA, RTL, MOP or AJFA. If they did, then they'd be repetitive and untrue to themselves which is much more important that being true to anyone else. And besides, if they did, you guys would bitch about that too. If you don't like them anymore, don't listen. It's that easy. And why don't some of you show some goddamn respect?? Leave Cliff out of this. What gives you the right to be telling everyone what he would think? Cliff is gone and is never coming back. If you wanna trully honor his memory, listen to his music. Evolution up there was right, if Cliff were alive, all the post '88 stuff would've been made a long time ago. Hell, AJFA probably would've never been made. And again to Evolution and to Riffage, Metallica doesn't owe us a GODDAMN thing. Of course if you were to tell me that my band owes you something I probably wouldn't be as nice about it as those guys. And as far as Hetfield having no credibility to use lyrics in "St. Anger" that were used in "Damage Inc."...THEY'RE HIS FUCKING LYRICS!!!! He can use them over and over if he damn well wants to. He wrote them, not anyone else.
I just can't figure out some people...
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | Personally
posted by :
6/24/2003 1:12:38 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
I'd LOVE to hear another "KEA, RTL, MOP, or AJFA" because all of those albums were different and unique. All songs sound different with the exception of the majority of AJFA. But since thats not going to happen, I'm happy with St. Anger.
|
 |
 |
 |
COMMENT | I agree...
posted by :
6/24/2003 1:57:20 PM
|
 |
 |
 |
...that another KEA, RTL, MOP or AJFA would be great. But I have accepted the fact tha |